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John Florez: Immigration laws, not census forms, are problem
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Bryan Robinson | 6:12 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Thank you for saying it like it is. If only our politicions had the moral
courage to do what is right rather than worry about their own political futures!
I am no Einstein but ... | 6:37 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Business says they need workers to do jobs Americans either won't do, or if
they do get the job, they will quit in a hurry.
Law and order advocates want the law to be obeyed.
The obvious solution is to allow more people to immigrate from countries that are willing to do work we need to have done.
Law and order advocates want the law to be obeyed.
The obvious solution is to allow more people to immigrate from countries that are willing to do work we need to have done.
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Tami | 7:14 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Enter commentHow convenient for you to cry "Rules are rules" when it
benefits the Hispanic community and illegal aliens. Perhaps you need to remind
your undocumented fellow Hispanics of that as you show them the exit out of our
country.
Mike Richards | 7:22 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
What does the Constitution say about counting illegal aliens? Amendment 14,
paragraph 2 says:
2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
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Indians were excluded because they were not taxed. Those men who could not vote were excluded.
Can illegal aliens vote? How about citizens who pay no taxes? Should they be counted?
Mr. Florez, it's too early to slam the door shut.
2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
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Indians were excluded because they were not taxed. Those men who could not vote were excluded.
Can illegal aliens vote? How about citizens who pay no taxes? Should they be counted?
Mr. Florez, it's too early to slam the door shut.
Double Standard | 7:40 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
But then it seems to be OK to break the rules for political gain since it's
only taxpayer dollars that are at stake.
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I don't recall any concern for the taxpayer from Mr Florez when Obama launched his idiotic plan to waste a trillion dollars on an alleged "stimulus plan" that has done virtually nothing for the economy.
Would it be politically incorrect to question the legal status of the Florez family?
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I don't recall any concern for the taxpayer from Mr Florez when Obama launched his idiotic plan to waste a trillion dollars on an alleged "stimulus plan" that has done virtually nothing for the economy.
Would it be politically incorrect to question the legal status of the Florez family?
@you are no einstein | 7:43 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Have you notice that unemployment is near 10%. Not only do they have the food
and hospitality industries, the illegals have taken over construction. Jobs
that used to give self esteem and support to lower class workers. What next,
let illegals get licensed professional positions. They drive down wages. Get
it? illegal workers are a pox on the country. Keep repeating clearly false
statements, the race advocates love it.
Bennett is late, Chaffetz | 7:53 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Bennett is late, Chaffetz just arrived.
A year ago, Rep. Chaffetz hadn't been elected. Don't blame his fro being late for class.
Bennett has had almost 18 years to do something. You are correct that he is trying to get on the train before he gets run over by those running for his seat.
A year ago, Rep. Chaffetz hadn't been elected. Don't blame his fro being late for class.
Bennett has had almost 18 years to do something. You are correct that he is trying to get on the train before he gets run over by those running for his seat.
Dear John | 7:54 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Years ago it really was welfare mothers who were selling their food stamps in
order to get drug money and were living desultory lives. We fixed that with
work for welfare laws. Now women are at least part-time employees or full time
students, working on meaningful advancement for them and their children. This
is righteous help to the lower classes.
Now your attachment to your race has clouded your view of what is good for the country. Steve above points out the facts of the matter on illegal invasion. The big use of illegals will be when the push comes next year to legalize them to vote so that our socialist democrats can maintain power for decades into the future. The census counting of illegals will already undermine the distribution of representation. Woe to the US, becoming mexico-north.
Now your attachment to your race has clouded your view of what is good for the country. Steve above points out the facts of the matter on illegal invasion. The big use of illegals will be when the push comes next year to legalize them to vote so that our socialist democrats can maintain power for decades into the future. The census counting of illegals will already undermine the distribution of representation. Woe to the US, becoming mexico-north.
Norski | 7:59 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Unemployment Report released on
October 2, 2009:
Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations — Unemployment Rate = 14.3%
Construction and extraction occupations — Unemployment Rate = 17.7%
Production occupations — Unemployment Rate = 14.1%
Transportation, material moving occupations — Unemployment Rate = 12.1%
Service occupations — Unemployment Rate = 9.4%
Total Unemployed Citizens and Legal Residents of the USA = 15,142,000
In addition:
Persons who currently want a job but are not included in the unemployment figures because they have not looked for a job in the last month = 5,922,000
Estimated number of Illegal Immigrants working in the USA = 7,500,000
Meanwhile:
Management, professional, and related occupations — Unemployment Rate = 5.2%
The truth is that Illegal Immigrants compete directly with U.S. Citizens and Legal Residents for jobs. There are no jobs that Americans won’t do because they are doing them. Unless they are one of the 7.5 million Citizens and Legal Residents who could be working but are not at a cost to the Taxpayer of over $100 billion per year thanks to Illegal Immigration.
Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations — Unemployment Rate = 14.3%
Construction and extraction occupations — Unemployment Rate = 17.7%
Production occupations — Unemployment Rate = 14.1%
Transportation, material moving occupations — Unemployment Rate = 12.1%
Service occupations — Unemployment Rate = 9.4%
Total Unemployed Citizens and Legal Residents of the USA = 15,142,000
In addition:
Persons who currently want a job but are not included in the unemployment figures because they have not looked for a job in the last month = 5,922,000
Estimated number of Illegal Immigrants working in the USA = 7,500,000
Meanwhile:
Management, professional, and related occupations — Unemployment Rate = 5.2%
The truth is that Illegal Immigrants compete directly with U.S. Citizens and Legal Residents for jobs. There are no jobs that Americans won’t do because they are doing them. Unless they are one of the 7.5 million Citizens and Legal Residents who could be working but are not at a cost to the Taxpayer of over $100 billion per year thanks to Illegal Immigration.
True Colors | 8:02 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Mr John Florez - you betray your true colors by pushing the use and term
"undocumented immigrants" instead of the correct term "illegal
immigrants." According to the laws of the U.S. - and most countries around
the world - anyone that crosses the border into a sovereign nation without the
permission of the government of that nation is committing a crime. Taking one
step across the border into the U.S. illegally makes that person a criminal. The
term "undocumented immigrant" is used to desensitize American citizens
to fact that illegal entry into the U.S. is just that - ILLEGAL.
I am all for immigration to the U.S. from all countries, immigrants helps to ensure a vibrant and diverse nation - but, it must be LEGAL immigration. My Mother is an immigrant to the U.S. - a LEGAL immigrant.
I am all for immigration to the U.S. from all countries, immigrants helps to ensure a vibrant and diverse nation - but, it must be LEGAL immigration. My Mother is an immigrant to the U.S. - a LEGAL immigrant.
Reed | 8:22 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
I find myself interacting with many illegal immigrants in my employment. Most
are good family people. They are only criminals in the sense that we all are.
We (every commentor here) have all broken laws with no intention to harm
anybody. The real danger and reason we must stop illegal immigration and deport
the ones allready here is that they don't share American ideals of freedom.
They don't love the Constitution, celebrate independance day, pledge
allegiance, or support free economy. They are turning our country into Mexico.
Anybody who has traveled in Mexico should be scared to death by that prospect!
Ed Weirdness | 8:44 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
The question of legal immigrant status was part of the last census. The question
was deleted from this census form for obvious political reasons. For those
unable to grasp the obvious:
Overpopulation, congestion, urban sprawl, crumbling infrastructure, diminishing resources, an overstressed energy sector, vanishing farm land and green space, lack of affordable house, overcrowded schools and hospitals, crime, pollution, depressed wages, increased tax burdens, the balkanization of our communities, the marginalization of American workers, taxpayers and voters, the overall decline in quality of life, are all the result of unconstrained immigration. Like it or not, too many people competing for the same limited resources in NOT sane, sustainable social, economic or environmental policy! Indeed, there is no problem confronting America's citizens that would not be measurably and immediately improved by securing our borders and enforcing our immigration laws.
Overpopulation, congestion, urban sprawl, crumbling infrastructure, diminishing resources, an overstressed energy sector, vanishing farm land and green space, lack of affordable house, overcrowded schools and hospitals, crime, pollution, depressed wages, increased tax burdens, the balkanization of our communities, the marginalization of American workers, taxpayers and voters, the overall decline in quality of life, are all the result of unconstrained immigration. Like it or not, too many people competing for the same limited resources in NOT sane, sustainable social, economic or environmental policy! Indeed, there is no problem confronting America's citizens that would not be measurably and immediately improved by securing our borders and enforcing our immigration laws.
Invade Mexico | 9:43 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Let us take over our neighboring country to the south. They have been there for
millenium without developing their huge natural resources. They have an
oligarchy political system. Mexico has been a bandit crime ridden country and a
nuisance to the USA for at least 300 years. Let's do nation building where
it can pay off. Let's install a constitution, a non-corrupt police force,
an enlightened school system with requirements to complete and then build
wonderful cities on their coasts. The populace would think nirvana had arrived.
Leslie Kohler | 10:18 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
As a former 1st grade teacher, I worked at a school with a high population of
Hispanics. I found the parents of these students to be very involved in their
children's education and supportive of the learning objectives. Many
undocumented immigrants are here because they desperately want a better life for
their children. If you lived across the border in a country that has had over
14,000 murders in recent years, and where innocent pople are being kidnapped and
held for randsom by drug cartels, wouldn't you want a safer place for your
children to live?
Excuses, excuses | 11:05 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Florez continues to make excuses for those who violate the law. No, our
immigration laws are not perfect. We've allowed businesses to create
incentives for illegal entry. And we could certainly use additional border
security.
But--and this fact is what Florez and other illegal alien apologists always ignore--NOBODY forced the illegal aliens to violate our law. Millions of legal immigrants have entered our nation in compliance with our laws despite the imperfections of those laws. They have learned our language, are more law abiding than natural born citizens, and have gained full citizenship while disavowing all allegiance to their native lands, and while raising their children to be good and loyal citizens.
Far too many illegal aliens want the fruits of our nation while scorning our culture, having divided loyalties or even no loyalties at all to this nation, and raising their children to be hispanic first and US second, if at all.
We could improve some aspects of our immigration laws. But for Florez and others, this has become code for amnesty and loss of borders. No thanks, John.
But--and this fact is what Florez and other illegal alien apologists always ignore--NOBODY forced the illegal aliens to violate our law. Millions of legal immigrants have entered our nation in compliance with our laws despite the imperfections of those laws. They have learned our language, are more law abiding than natural born citizens, and have gained full citizenship while disavowing all allegiance to their native lands, and while raising their children to be good and loyal citizens.
Far too many illegal aliens want the fruits of our nation while scorning our culture, having divided loyalties or even no loyalties at all to this nation, and raising their children to be hispanic first and US second, if at all.
We could improve some aspects of our immigration laws. But for Florez and others, this has become code for amnesty and loss of borders. No thanks, John.
RE: Leslie Kohler | 10:18 | 12:59 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Leslie - I agree that it is a sad state of affairs in Mexico - but, that does
not provide an excuse for crossing the border illegally.
There are many people around the world that want a better life for their families and children. They accomplish that task by following the immigration laws of the U.S. - pure and simple. People should not be rewarded for going around the system and ignoring the law. When someone ignores one law it shows that they care nothing about our country or our laws. Period.
There are many people around the world that want a better life for their families and children. They accomplish that task by following the immigration laws of the U.S. - pure and simple. People should not be rewarded for going around the system and ignoring the law. When someone ignores one law it shows that they care nothing about our country or our laws. Period.
a teacher | 1:02 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
I see students who are undocumented, or children of undocumented aliens, and am
concerned by a couple of things. While apologists claim these are hard working
family oriented, and usually law abiding people, the results I see are kids who
do not take American rules and laws seriously because they are being raised in a
home where it is permissable to break a law if it leads to financial gain for
your family. While these "hard working family types" are busy working
in jobs (mostly construction in our area) that some claim Americans are
unwilling to do, their kids are busily establishing a criminal subculture in the
form of gangs and drug distribution. Of course there are exceptions but the
numbers are increasingly looking bad for the childrem of "undocumented
workers".
zsa04 | 1:55 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
I find it appalling that Mr. Florez refers to the need to allocate "$400
billion a year to communities for transportation, education, public health and
safety" as justification for including illegal aliens in the census.
Doesn't he realize that the allocation of this $400 billion relies on
census data to determine how the funds are dispersed, even though illegal aliens
and new immigrants are not eligible for some of these programs? Utah has a
relatively low illegal alien population; advocating for illegal aliens to be
counted in the census would mean that more federal dollars would be directed to
states that have adopted policies that encourage illegal immigration (such as
California, New York, and Illinois). Accordingly, these states would receive
more than their fair share of federal funding at the expense of states - like
Utah - with lower illegal alien populations.
Sterling | 2:02 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
If electoral votes, federal govt. assistance, etc., are allocated based on LEGAL
VOTERS Kalifornia stands to lose A LOT of political clout. The state has been
pretty much taken over by the illegals, and since they (at least legally)
aren't entitled to vote, asking Kalifornios if they're legal or not
will mean WAY LESS government assistance. Probably by the 2012 election, and
most CERTAINLY by the 2016 election, the kids that were born to the illegals in
Kalifornia WILL comprise a large enough voting bloc to pretty much get ANYONE,
AND ANYTHING they want. Legal citizens, (especially ones with ANY money) are
leaving Kalifornia in droves due to the states involvency and being taken over
by illegals. THATS WHY Kalifornia wants EVERYONE counted, if they ONLY count
the LEGAL residents, they will lose A LOT of government assistance!
Brittanicus | 2:21 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Call and blast your Senators and Representative at 202-224-3121 in Washington.
Jamming the switchboard with your calls, as it is having an outstanding effect
of--MILLIONS of angry voters on legislators. THEY ARE BEGINNING TO LISTEN AND
REACT? INFORM THEM TO DO THEIR DUTY OR SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES ON RE-ELECTION
DAY? Tell them you want PERMANENT E-Verify for--EVERY WORKER, a secure double
layer fence and--REAL--enforcement against sanctuary state policies. Only
citizens and legal residents--MUST--be counted in the 2010 Census--ILLEGAL
ALIENS MUST BE EXEMPT. Read undisclosed facts, statistics and lawmakers
immigration enforcement grades of politicians at NUMBERSUSA. UNEARTH the
corruption in government at JUDICIAL WATCH. Your voice is needed to halt
OVERPOPULATION and American Worker survival. Demand NO-MORE-AMNESTIES. They
should--GO--home and come through the front door, like millions of honest legal
immigrants? Report any irregularities in your workplace to ICE. Be a patriotic
American, Whistle-Blower and inform of illegal activity to ICE. Your job--COULD
BE NEXT?
CJ | 3:12 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
John, why are you whining about people changing the rules when 12 million of
your countrymen think the rules don't apply to them or need to be changed
to accommodate them? You and all of your illegal criminal friends have no room
to talk about rules in any way shape or form.
A recent Rasmussen poll shows that support for deportation and enforcement of immigration laws is at an all time high.That means we are all sick of you and your law breaking, job stealing, tax burdening group of freeloading, complaining,friends and relatives who have no right to be here in the first.
You have no respect for any rules or any laws in the first place so stop crying about legally elected officials trying to stop you and your nonsense.Your constant moronic drivel in the Deseret News almost makes me want to cancel my subscription, you are a racist of the worst kind, you think only your race deserves to break the laws of our country with impunity. Your own country is an unmitigated disaster. and now you think you can all come here and tell us how to run ours.
A recent Rasmussen poll shows that support for deportation and enforcement of immigration laws is at an all time high.That means we are all sick of you and your law breaking, job stealing, tax burdening group of freeloading, complaining,friends and relatives who have no right to be here in the first.
You have no respect for any rules or any laws in the first place so stop crying about legally elected officials trying to stop you and your nonsense.Your constant moronic drivel in the Deseret News almost makes me want to cancel my subscription, you are a racist of the worst kind, you think only your race deserves to break the laws of our country with impunity. Your own country is an unmitigated disaster. and now you think you can all come here and tell us how to run ours.
CJ | 3:28 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
To "Einstein", you are right about you being Einstein. Will you please
tell me about where I can find all of the millions of jobs "Americans
aren't willing to do" that we "need" foreigners to come and
fill? I have friends with Masters Degrees and PHD's who are working for
next to nothing because they can't find a decent job. The unemployment rate
among people under the age of 20 is over 50%, the state of Michigan has a real
unemployment rate in the high teens.
We need 12 million illegal Mexicans here taking up jobs like and straining the healthcare and education systems like we need a hole in the head.
Actually we already have tons of people with a hole their head that is how the current occupant of the White House got in.
We need 12 million illegal Mexicans here taking up jobs like and straining the healthcare and education systems like we need a hole in the head.
Actually we already have tons of people with a hole their head that is how the current occupant of the White House got in.
Ed Weirdness | 3:52 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
According to the CIA world Fact book, Mexico has an unemployment rate
approaching only about 4 % of a population one third the size of the United
States. Mexico has the 12th. largest GDP on the planet, and the percentage of
the population of Mexico that lives below the poverty line is 13.6 % while the
percentage of the U.S. population that lives below the poverty line is 12% of a
population three times larger. Mexico has vast untapped resources, and a cost of
living that is roughly one third that of the neighboring Southwestern United
States. In Mexico, health insurance costs a fraction of what it costs in the
U.S. Like it or not folks, illegal aliens like beating the tax man both here and
in their native country. Remittances are almost never taxed when being sent, and
never taxed by the receiving countries. What would our nation be if the founding
fathers had taken the 'cowards way out', and simply slipped across
some porous border to take advantage of other nations taxpayers? Yes Mexico has
problems, but the problems are of their own making, and it remains for the
people of Mexico to fix their problems.
One immigratin law needed | 4:26 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
The only immigration law we need right now it an "e-verify" law,
exactly followed in every state of the union.
Rather than chasing tens of millions of illegals, just get on the cases of the employers and make them verify every applicant for a job and every existing employee. Give them a month or two to carryout the check in the first instance, and then throw the book at employers who break the law, and I mean massive fines or meaningful jail terms, without exception.
When the jobs dry up the illegals will return home without further compulsory means.
Rather than chasing tens of millions of illegals, just get on the cases of the employers and make them verify every applicant for a job and every existing employee. Give them a month or two to carryout the check in the first instance, and then throw the book at employers who break the law, and I mean massive fines or meaningful jail terms, without exception.
When the jobs dry up the illegals will return home without further compulsory means.
Immigrants benefit economy | 4:40 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
re @you are no einstein | 7:43 a.m. Oct. 26, 2009
I've never heard of any Americans laid off who want to go to work in slaughter houses, or follow the various crops around so they can pick them.
The minute the economy gets better, what lower jobs Americans have taken, they will leave. Business needs people who will stay who will take pride in menial jobs.
These immigrants don't really take jobs either. They require housing, cars, groceries when they come here, all this increased demand creates jobs.
I've never heard of any Americans laid off who want to go to work in slaughter houses, or follow the various crops around so they can pick them.
The minute the economy gets better, what lower jobs Americans have taken, they will leave. Business needs people who will stay who will take pride in menial jobs.
These immigrants don't really take jobs either. They require housing, cars, groceries when they come here, all this increased demand creates jobs.
Solution not that hard | 4:43 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
The real solution is to increase the immigration quota from countries that will
do menial work Americans shun, but at the same time, deport (PERMANTLY) gang
members who are immigrants.
Why Govt doesn't do it | 4:57 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
The reason the govt doesn't push e-verify more that it does is it would
harm business, it would harm the economy. Business who can see this most clearly
lobbies those in govt concerning this issue.
Getting rid of these people would reduce the size of the economy of the United States, and given that we owe so much money, this would leave the huge burden on a nation less able to bear it.
Getting rid of these people would reduce the size of the economy of the United States, and given that we owe so much money, this would leave the huge burden on a nation less able to bear it.
Keep the best - deport the rest | 5:01 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Immigration law isn't a felony, it is on par with jaywalking or
speeding.
So obeying the law isn't really what is at issue here, it is what is best for the United States.
Its clear these people provide a needed source of labor. Why not make those who would become good citizens, into citizens and deport the rest?
So obeying the law isn't really what is at issue here, it is what is best for the United States.
Its clear these people provide a needed source of labor. Why not make those who would become good citizens, into citizens and deport the rest?
Delaware Bob | 8:42 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
It's time for ZERO TOLERENCE with these illegal aliens. It's time for
them get out of this Country and back in their own Country where they belong.
When we get rid of the illegal aliens, we will get rid of all the problems that
go with them. THAT IS A FACT!
tenx | 9:12 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Rules are rules. People sneaking across our borders are committing a crime and
should be arrested and deported. Amen to Steve @6:02 am. Amnesty brings in more
illegals seeking more amnesty. Check out how the 1986 "amnesty to end all
amnesties" just brought in more illegals.
Estoban | 5:35 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Lawbreaking illegal aliens are anarchists picking and choosing which laws they
are willing to break, much like the greedy criminal employers that hire them.
This makes for an unholy alliance that throws American workers under the bus -
all 15 million of our newly jobless. Deport all illegal aliens and jail all
criminal employers.
Immigration | 3:52 p.m. Oct. 27, 2009
The motto now is the following:
"Give me your wealthy and healthy"
The cost to migrate here is EXPENSIVE! No wonder the poor can only get here illegally. If you were wanted immigrant to the U.S., look at the cost of filing all the legal paperwork. Can you afford it yourself in your given situation now?
"Give me your wealthy and healthy"
The cost to migrate here is EXPENSIVE! No wonder the poor can only get here illegally. If you were wanted immigrant to the U.S., look at the cost of filing all the legal paperwork. Can you afford it yourself in your given situation now?
Norski | 8:36 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
To "Keepthebest" - It is perfectly clear that Illegal Immigrants DO
NOT supply a needed source of labor. Even when unemployment was at the lowest
point of this decade in 2007 the US Bureau of Labor Statistics listed following
data:
Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations — Unemployment Rate = 8.5%
Construction and extraction occupations — Unemployment Rate = 7.6%
Production occupations — Unemployment Rate = 5.7%
Transportation, material moving occupations — Unemployment Rate = 6.0%
Service occupations — Unemployment Rate = 5.9%
Meanwhile:
Management, professional, and related occupations — Unemployment Rate = 2.1%
During 2007 we only reached full employment in the Management, professional, and related occupations, while the occupations that attract Illegal Immigrant workers suffered significant unemployment. As you can see, unemployment rates remained at recession levels thanks to Illegal Immigration. And we saw the number of people earning below poverty line wages raise to above 12%. And with over 12 million American Citizens looking for work versus 7 million working Illegal Immigrants we have positive proof of how badly Illegal Immigration has hurt the low income American Citizen and Legal Resident and how Illegal Immigration never really "provided a needed source of labor".
Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations — Unemployment Rate = 8.5%
Construction and extraction occupations — Unemployment Rate = 7.6%
Production occupations — Unemployment Rate = 5.7%
Transportation, material moving occupations — Unemployment Rate = 6.0%
Service occupations — Unemployment Rate = 5.9%
Meanwhile:
Management, professional, and related occupations — Unemployment Rate = 2.1%
During 2007 we only reached full employment in the Management, professional, and related occupations, while the occupations that attract Illegal Immigrant workers suffered significant unemployment. As you can see, unemployment rates remained at recession levels thanks to Illegal Immigration. And we saw the number of people earning below poverty line wages raise to above 12%. And with over 12 million American Citizens looking for work versus 7 million working Illegal Immigrants we have positive proof of how badly Illegal Immigration has hurt the low income American Citizen and Legal Resident and how Illegal Immigration never really "provided a needed source of labor".
garth sommer | 4:23 p.m. Nov. 19, 2009
Please kick illegal immigrants OUT OF THE USA. The writer of this article does
not like to notice we are rolling into a depression. Illegals only make a bad
situation worse. Our government has been acting out against the American public
for so long now that the our national cohesion is falling apart on so many
levels. I am, for one, beginning to hate illegals and hispanics as a whole.
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