Trouble for TCU | 1:40 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
And payback time for BYU!

Yeah, Max has trouble in big games.

Remember all the trouble he had for Utah on 4-and-18?

And, all the trouble he had for Oklahoma on that 16-play, 78-yard drive, where he found a wide-open McKay Jacobson in the back of the end zone with 3:03 left in the fourth to put BYU ahead for good?

I'm looking forward to Max having similar trouble for TCU tomorrow evening!

Go COUGS!
Anonymous | 7:33 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Kind of puts you in a bind. Support BYU because that's your team, or support TCU because you want to poke the BCS in the eye. In any case, will BYU choke again while on the national stage?
Horned Frogs Fight | 7:35 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
TCU has a well balanced team this year and don't forget we had our share of heart ache after the Utah game - that has left a bitter taste in our mouth for a year too. This team is going to come out fighting and will not under estimate BYU, there is too much on the line and too much leadership on the team to do so.

GO FROGS!
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re: Trouble for TCU | 7:37 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
... and the 8 interceptions thrown in 3 losses to TCU, Utah and Arizona. Yep, big game Max on stage tomorrow
Anonymous | 7:38 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
"The Cougars are wary of Dalton's ability to throw and pass . . ." What about his ability to rush and run? Hahahahaha. No proofreading?
wallofvoodoo | 7:45 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
TCU is scary good. I would be surprised if the didn't beat Utah & BYU. BYU is motivated & anything can happen. Go Cougs! GO UTES!
trueblue | 8:23 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Thank goodness Manase is back. He could be the difference in this game. He is a fantastic blocker and brings intensity to the offense. Step up Cougar D. If the cougars win Saturday it would almost assure them atleast a share of the conference title. I think BYU needs to realy use their tite ends in this game. Keep the backs in the backfield and release the tite ends. Protection is going to be huge.
RE:Trouble for TCU | 8:26 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Serious? Looks like you forgot last season, but I suppose it is convenient:)

BYU goes down big time-we have seen it time after time with BYU, SPEED KILLS and BYU doesn't seem to have much of it.

Cougars will fall at home and prove why they are once again not contenders but pretenders.

Go Fougars.
TCU has plalyed a weaker  | 8:30 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
schedule than Utah. They have talent. They are also beatable. You would think that the BYU defense would be prepared for the "Wildcat" by now. You would also think that they would have some quick release plays that were not predictable and obvious.

This really comes down to two things.

Coaching-strategy,preparation and adjustment.

Execution-will BYU show up and play?

If BYU gets a decent defensive effort and the offensive play calling is not totally predictable they should be able to outscore TCU.
Knowwhat | 8:33 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Trueblue and his quality BYU education, giving us words of wisdom and his grasp of football knowledge based on his level of education.
GAMEDAY | 8:34 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
The FROGS WIN by 3 td's.......Hall throws 4 int's. 1 for a pick 6. Tobad the faithfull will not see the game on tv. You need to go to a bar with comcast or dish...good luck.......
FACTORS | 8:53 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
I hope the game is in the 20's and cold with snow and wind. If the game time is below freezing and if the cougars don't turn the ball over it should give us a chance.

Go Cougs!
re: Trouble | 8:54 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
"Looks like you forgot last season, but I suppose it is convenient:)"

No!

But, we also haven't forgotten 2006 and 2007 when the Cougars swept TCU and Utah in back to back seasons.

Convenient! :)
cougar grad in az. | 9:11 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
This will be the test of wills. Will BYU win or TCU win? It will end up helping us determine which team wants the win and what they will do to get the win. BYU knows what TCU can do on offense and on defense. I am sure that BYU will try to negate the fearsome threesome as much as possible.

BYU was embarassed last year down there in Texas. I, personally, do not feel that BYU wants TCU to come up here and do a number on them on our home turf, in Edwards Stadium.

This will be a very interesting game. It will be determined by turnovers and the tempo of the game. Both teams will be prepared. May the best team win!!!

In my case, Go Cougars!!! Show TCU what you can do to take them out of their rhythm of the game. Remember one game at a time and one play at a time. Control the flow of the game, no turnovers, and come out with a win for BYU. Teamwork will go a long way especially in this game, on the defensive side and the offensive side. Go Cougars!!!! Go big Blue!!!!
Ernest T. Bass | 9:11 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
byu is so much better then the horn frogs. I can't believe people are saying the game will be close. Bronco will have them winning this game so much.
Hold on there trueblue | 9:28 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
only 3 games in to the conference season an you're already talking conference championship. After TCU we still play at Wyoming and have Air Force and utah at home. A lot of football still to play
Key to the Game | 9:52 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Key to the game is how well BYU runs the ball. If they can run it on TCU, by using their size up front, their tight ends and their power running backs, BYU can keep TCU's offense off the field and ware down the TCU D. BYU should pass a few times to keep they frogs honest, but in the end it will be the run game that will make the difference. If BYU can't run on them, then the game goes the frogs way. BYU defens will struggle against the frog's running QB.
Old Cougar | 10:02 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Speed kills..........TCU has it and we do not. I watched USC with Norm Chow for many years run the BYU offense with speed, and look at that program. Hopefully, we can force turnovers and the offense will be on it' " A " game. Otherwise, it could be a long homecoming game.
Pedro | 10:16 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
I hate to say it, but Anae has already guaranteed a loss. He just said that this game is not about scheme, it is about execution. Translation, I do not have a dedicated, well thought out game plan for TCU. It makes me sick. A coaches job is to have a game plan specific to each opponent and to ADJUST as needed through out the game. Anae's marriage to execution, rather than scheme will pretty much guarantee: no play action, no quick snaps, no trick plays, no misdirection, no series for Nelson. This likely loss will be a coaching loss--AGAIN. Be prepared for numerous bone-head play calls and no adjustment by BYU to counter TCU's schemes. Same thing goes for Hill and his defensive preparation. A big unknown that will have a huge impact on the game is Tonga vs TCU. Hughes is a beast but Tonga is also exceptional. When Tonga is in, BYU is a dramaticly better team.
The correct answer... | 10:18 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
is that BYU will handle TCU. Good football team but there's more pressure on TCU to bring home the win (they are favored, trying to go unbeaten) and they will not live up to it. I want BYU to win because that's my team but I have to admit that I want TCU to win to stay unbeaten and have a shot at BCS busting for the MWC, too. Either way, should be a great game with a lot on the line for both teams.
ESPN | 10:28 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
“I think the only way that our conference will end up having the BCS bid is if someone’s able to remain undefeated,” BYU coach Bronco Mendenhall said. “So, TCU has the best chance of that bid. Again, I don’t think our league has the respect yet of a one-loss team, however, our conference is stronger than the WAC and I don’t think there’s any argument about that. The teams that the top three teams have lost to or might lose to should all be good football teams. So, it might be the year and I could be surprised, but I’m still of the opinion you’re probably going to have to go undefeated to get in.”

Your own coach knows that you have no chance to sniff a BCS Zoobies so deal with it!!!
TCU 27 BYU 14 | 10:39 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
It will be a good game but the frogs will take it in the stretch.
Dave | 10:51 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
I agree the main deficiency is, always has been, and will continue to be inferior speed. They will continue to be a good team, considering the overall poor teams they play, but they will never be a great team because of their inability to recruit fast players. I would not be at all suprised to see teams that are fundamentally sound and have great speed embarrass BYU with lopsided scores, even blowouts, year in and year out. This is disappointing, since I have been a BYU fan. Anymore, I often follow the games, not so much with high expectations and anxiety for a win, but for curiosity about whether my theory and observations are correct. I also think there will consistently be games each year in which a significant contribution to losses stems from BYU being outcoached in their team's preparation and during the game.
Re re trouble | 11:07 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
I guess beating U by a last minute touchdown is sweeping right
It will be a good game . . .  | 11:09 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
only if you are not a Cougar fan:) BYU has shown for the past decade plus that they cannot win against speed. Additionally Max Hall has proven to be a pansy mentally when it comes to teams that are truly tough in the defensive secondary. I mean good glory he threw two picks to the USU Aggies, WHAT?

BYU is pathetic and will lose by a wide margin. End o' story.
Dr DME | 11:13 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Ball Control. Good start to the game with no turnover. Play to win. Attitude that they can win. If Washington can beat USC then BYU can beat TCU.
Don't Choke Cougars.
Moose on the Loose | 11:19 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
TCU 28
BYU 24
Cougarf@n | 11:19 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Re ESPN: Bronco is spot on is saying that a MWC "probably" has to go undefeated to get in.

You're dim whitted interpretation of his comments being that BYU has "no chance to sniff a BCS" this year is not even close.

If Boise State loses and BYU wins out then BYU is in because they'd be automatically in with a top-12 BCS ranking and being the highest non-AQ team. Bronco realizes that Boise State will "probably" win out, which is why he referenced the inferior WAC, so BYU is "probably" not going, even with one loss. Not to mention it's hardly a foregone conclusion that BYU beats both TCU and Utah.

Although, there is an outside chance BYU passes Boise State without a BSU loss (FSU wins its way to bowl eligibility, OU wins out, Oregon losses two or three, BSU barely eeks out several games, etc.), but it's extremely remote.

First things first, BYU has to win tomorrow. I think they will.
ESPN | 11:21 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
"The Frogs are poised to roar past Boise State in the BCS standings if they can take care of their business. Max Hall is a dangerous playmaker, but he has thrown 10 interceptions this season and has struggled with pressure in his career. Nobody brings the heat like Jerry Hughes of TCU. Last year, the Frogs sacked Hall six times and picked him off twice. In fact, watch the Horned Frogs' D and you'll see a defense that holds its own in speed and nastiness with the elite defenses in the power conferences.

The Cougars will be eager to atone for their Florida State face-plant as well as the flogging the Frogs put on them last year. TCU has an occasional habit in big games of seemingly dominating opponents yet somehow letting them stay close on the scoreboard. Sometimes the Frogs get away with it, as they did against Boise State in the Poinsettia Bowl last year. Sometimes they don't, as when Utah gigged the Frogs in the waning moments last year."
BCS | 11:41 a.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Shouldn't both BYU and Utah lose to TCU so they can get into the BCS? That would really help get an automatic bid for the conference. As a U fan, I won't mind if TCU beats us this year. BYU fans should maybe feel the same (not being one I can't say, I don't know how that loss felt last year).

If we can end the season ranked I will be happy with what was supposed to be a rebuilding year. Not bad for rebuilding (or reloading... I know someone would have said it).
hahaha | 12:09 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
yeah remember when hall thought kruger was austin collie? remember that time when hughes sacked him 4 times? remember when he lost to arizona in the las vegas bowl?
Remember... | 12:14 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Last year Pitta and Unga were both injured and still playing for the TCU game. Unga had issues with his ankle and Pitta with his knee. Hall threw primarily to Collie the entire game, which TCU knew and took advantage of. The key players for this game are all healthy (minus Jacobson) and Hall is throwing to more players (yes, even those of opposing teams). Spreading the ball around to healthy players and making long drives should give the Cougars enough to wear down the defense and pull out a win over TCU.
owm | 12:58 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
The reason it is, generally, not entertaining to read posts on Cougar articles is because of the dim-witted Utah puke fans who write only to occupy space, only to see who can write the dumbest thing and only to take up time while in between breaks working for the janitorial departmnt at SLCC.

It is tragic that not one intelligent true Ute fan can ever post anything close to worth reading. I know there are smart Ute fans, I know some. But most often only the ignorant ones post.

RE the article:

The terrific trio of TCU are negated by the terrific dozen of the Cougars. Here is hoping that the TCU players have all watched film of the FSU game. Just like Bowden said after the game in Provo, "We were hoping that BYU was watching film of the Jacksonville State game." Then following that he explained that if so, the Cougar players would be expectig the team that was on that film. Then he apologized to Mendenhall knowing Coach would not want to hear it. Bowden was right.

TCU will be expecting the team that played FSU. It will be a hard lesson to learn.
Hands off... | 1:54 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
This is a TCU article, Cougar fans.

Take your own whiny advice & only comment on articles about your own team.
Silly Zoobs | 2:39 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
First, you know that Utah is is ranked higher in 4 of the 5 computer polls that the BCS uses so that means Utah has had a tougher schedule than TDS and TCU.

Second, BYwho does not do well against the spread offense and a good defense, I am sure GP with have a brand new trick for TDS and they won't know how to handle it.

Third, Ybu wants to play their best and bend but don't break while TCU is putting a Y helmets on their dummies and ripping it off on every play. Sounds like TCU is up much more for this game and TCU also knows this is the last tough road game, they will be just as pumped as last year.

Forth, Hall panics, always has and always will, he makes bad judgements when he is up by 20 on USU and last time I checked TCU had a much better defense!
old fart | 2:48 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
To those who keep bringing up Hall's 10 INTs: How long have you been watching college football around here? All of the old BYU QBs used to throw a lot of INTs, and they still beat the pants off the ewe all the time. WIth the BYU offense, INTs are thrown. The only difference between Hall and the others is that he doesn't have as many TD passes as they used to get. This is because BYU actually has a running game, and where we used to throw short passes for TDs, now we have Unga or Tonga or Hall or Pili or DiLuigi or any number of other ball carriers score the TD on the ground. There is nothing wrong with Hall 's abilities. Detmer threw 6 INTs at Wyoming. Young threw 6 INTs at Georgia. Really, really truly, there was nothing special or amazing about the INTs Hall threw against TCU or ewetah last year. It just happens sometimes, particularly when a defensive scheme is used that BYU hasn't seen the entire year.
Put up or shut up time | 2:51 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
"I guess beating U by a last minute touchdown is sweeping right..."

um, yeah, beating every team in the MWC in 2006 and 2007 is sweeping! A win is a win.

How many close games did Utah just barely survive in their "undefeated" 2008 season?

To hear Utah fans talk about it, you'd think the Utes steamrolled every team they played last season, when, the truth is, the Ute's were lucky to pull out wins in at least four games: Air Force, New Mexico, Oregon State and TCU.

---------------------------------

TCU is very good this year, but so is BYU.

TCU hasn't faced an offense nearly as good as BYU has.

BYU hasn't faced a defense as good as TCU's.

Both teams have alot at stake, but, after the FSU game, the Cougars have much more to prove.

My prediction, BYU wins in a close one by a TD or less.
Illegal use of hands... | 3:04 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
No, this is an article about BYU's opponent this week, published by a Utah newspaper and meant for local market consumption, in other words, for BYU fans!

So, take your whines and find an article about Utah; the Utes must be playing somebody this week.

It's often hard to tell, since most "Utah fan" bloggers are totally obsessed with BYU.
BYU Fan (Big Frank) | 3:10 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
I love the way TCU plays....but the Horned Frogs are toast this Saturday. Trust me.
re: Hands off... | 3:17 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
that's weird - as TCU is BYU's opponent tomorrow afternoon, I'm assuming it's relevant to BYU fan.

Regarding the comment about BYU thinking that if BYU beats TCU we're in line for a BCS bid - where did you get that impression? Maybe some knucklehead posted that but I don't think anyone is under the impression that even if BYU were to win out there would be a BCS game in our future. The Bronco quotes up above say as much - no one-loss MWC team is going to a BCS game. Not sure where the impression that BYU fan thinks we're going to the Fiesta Bowl if we win tomorrow.

Also, where is this "BYU can't handle speed" comment coming from? Are you saying your own teams are slow? I think BYU teams in the last few years have done pretty well against top tier teams. I suspect Oregon, UCLA, and Oklahoma, would consider themselves as having some pretty speedy guys - we beat all of those guys in the last few years. It's probably one of BYU's weaknesses, but it's not a predictor of wins and losses.

BYU wins tomorrow.
So owm, | 3:21 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Are you passing yourself off as an intelligent BYU fan? As a custodian myself, I know many "janitorial workers" throughout the state who know and appreciate quality football. BYU, TCU, and UU, all represent quality football. More importantly they also represent respect for others, something you sincerely lack. At least we have jobs and a life, try those sometime.
TCU Fan | 3:23 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
We are not a great team. We bearly got out of the Air Force 20-17 and Clemson 14-10; and who is Virginia? I am extremely worried about BYU. Actually neither one of us has played a decent team to date. You can discount the BYU-Oklahoma game because of the devastating injury to their QB Bradford. Whoever wins this game wins the MWC, no question. But it doesn't matter in the final analysis. No MWC team will every play for the national title...trust me. We at TCU are only concerned with BYU.....Utah is shakey. It will boil down to who can sweep the roadies. No one in the MWC will come close to beating the Frogs at home this year.
re: Put up... | 3:36 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Not sure, but I'd say Oklahoma's defense isn't exactly at the bottom of the heap in college football, and that defense of Florida State's seemed pretty good to me.

BYU's offense isn't about speed, it's about precision - they are a route-running, passing offense. They were clearly frustrated by FSU and could not execute to their game plan (or, either that or they had a sub-par game plan that, not matter how well executed, wasn't going to cut the mustard that Saturday - maybe a combination of both).

BYU doesn't have a smash-mouth run game - BYU at their best, establishes their run game so they can throw the ball - they pick apart defenses with their passing. Can't say I'm a huge Max Hall fan but this has been part of their problem - MH has nearly as many pics as TDs, which tells me their receivers may be running the routes, MH just isn't hitting them as he needs to be. If he's not hitting receivers, then defenses can collapse on the run game, which forces throws which MH can't connect on = BYU loses.
Re owm | 3:36 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
I read a lot of posts from dim-witted zoob fans who post on hear too, including yourself. Conceded with a major superiority complex who are so delusional that they think their team is still relevant. TCU and the Utes are raising their game and evolving while BYU will always be stuck with slow players, and mediocre team.

BYU better hope for rain tomorrow evening, it is the only way they can level the playing field and negate TCU's speed advantage. TCU 36 BYU 13. BYU loses 3 games at home this year (Utes will beat them too).
RE: Hands off... | 3:37 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Just in case you missed it. The article had 21 paragraphs, not including the first two, short, one line, fragmented, sentences.

16 of the paragraphs talked about BYU, BYU and Mendenhall or quotes from Mendenhall and/or players of BYU.

What was that you said again???

Only five talked exclusively about TCU toads. Would you like to make a detraction or remain a fool like most of the yewt posters??
ingnernt | 3:45 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
Sorry for the ignernt question but will someone please tell me what TDS means? I get that it's some sort of insult from UteFan, but I don't live in Utah and I'm sure it's some sort of homegrown deragatory comment.

PS, I have lived there before and I do know that:

ignorant is pronouced ingnert
Red Lobster = Red lopster
Thanks = thEENks

It's been a while, so TDS must have gotten into the lexicon after I left.
Spell check - seriously | 4:07 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
here v hear
their v there
lose v loose

honestly, trying to figure out what some of you are saying is like having a second job.
Old Ute | 4:50 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
To: trueblue | 8:23 a.m.

I think you may have a case of BYU spelling!
Old Ute | 5:06 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
To: old fart | 2:48 p.m.

I knew there was a good reason Hall like to throw to the opposing team. I hope he keeps it up. It will cost the Cougars games!
embarrassing | 5:42 p.m. Oct. 23, 2009
is what it must feel like to be a ute fan- I mean your team has so much superior speed and athleticism that you should wipe BYU out by 3 or more TDs every year- and yet the slow, fat, married, white boys consistently beat you and play you tough (except, of course, 2004 and 2008- but BYU has handed you some pretty bad beatings over the years as well).

All this talk of how speed kills it's amazing that BYU ever wins a game (I mean, even UNLV, SDSU, TCU, etc have superior speed to BYU).

All I know, is that when BYU beats utah in Nov. you should be doubly embarrassed because we have no speed and no right to even be on the same field with your great athletes (or TCUs, UCLAs, Oklahomas, any Pac-10 team, etc).

It all tells me that Bronco must be a superior coach to work with inferior athletes and have more MWC titles and being 2-2 against utah so far.

Go COUGARS!

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