Overall, speed is down from when limit on I-15 stretches was 75 mph
Maybe my math skills aren't as good as the reporters, but how is 83-85 mph
"actually slower" than 81-85 mph? Sounds about the same, if not a little more.
Certainly doesn't support the assertion in the lead paragraph ...
It's the differential between the posted limit and the 85 percentile. It's
confusing as written, but they're saying that before (posted = 75) the 85
percentile speed was 6-10 mph over. Now it's only 3-5 mph over, which is slower.
drivers didn't really slow down; they're just not going so far over the posted
So if we make the speed limit 200 mph on every street, highway and freeway, then
we will "slow down" everyone. great logic ...
I have noted patrol cars at each end of the 80 mile speed zones - Speed Trap?
Anyway I feel less guilty for speeding. I think their great.
I love how the lady says "Speed Kills" ... I'm pretty sure that if you're in an
accident at 75-80 or 80-85 the result is going to be pretty much the same. I'd
rather go out in a flash than bleed out for an hour.I drive 85 on
I-70 and I-25 in the rural stretches of CO all the time. So does just about
everyone else. On I-70 from UT to CO I was doing 100 with four other vehicles
and felt safe doing so.
You can bet that this isn't going to last long. The screams from the local
gov'ts about loss of ticket revenue and the nattering from the insurance
companies will see to that.What's terrifying to elected officials
everywhere is if the early results (no increase in accidents) holds up, the
pressures to bring posted limits into line with real world traffic speeds will
be immense.We wouldn't want our laws to have some measure of common sense,
now would we?
A four-word reminder to anyone who thinks the speed limits are too high:"Slower traffic keep right"There are signs which state that
right there on the highways, which you're too busy cruising in the left lane to
the SAFEST highways in the world have no speed limits. Speed limits are there to
save gas and to make money from fines.
The slower you go, the more other people have to adjust their driving habits,
causing a dangrous situation. There should be minimum speed limites. 50 MPH
MINIMUM on an interstate and have it enforced with higher traffic fines for
going slower than that.
greg.. you are so right. basic traffic laws being broken cause more accidents
than anything else. failing to keep right except to pass, failing to signal,
cell phone use, distracted driving. these all cause road rage and fines should
be quadrupled for them. if you create the risk of an accident, you should be
stripped of your license on the spot and have your car towed.
My friend and I sometimes hit 110 on the straightaway between Ephraim and
Chester. It's lonely there too.
Brian Regan refers to those who drive slow in the left lane as "enforcers".
Utah has more than its share. I hate how they try to force us to obey the law,
interfering with our free agency.
Whatever the speed limit is set at, it would sure be a help for some of us who
believe in obeying the law if they would enforce it.
wow, what horrible statistical interpretation. And for such a hot-button issue
Speed limits in Yewtah, appear to be only a "suggestion"
Really? So theoretically, just raise the speed limit and speeding no longer
becomes a problem. However the death rates climb dramatically because of out of
control and unsafe vehicles driving the faster speed limit. More roll overs,
more blown tires, more vehicles flying off the roads as they search for their
cell phones, and more deaths per road mile. But that's okay, at least they
weren't speeding. This "white knuckle" driving that forces many drivers to drive
faster than safety warrants must be a thrilling sport in Utah.There
is no freeway or road in Utah ever designed or built for speeds beyond the
55-70mph speeds. Not to mention that most vehicles are not designed for handling
at high speed or fuel economy.Is the state and taxpayers actually
paying these departments for this kind of twisted logic? Only a political mind
can twist the facts to make themselves look good, which I think UDOT is trying
could have told you this. i've observed this countless places. seems
counter-intuitive but its true.
Ephraim to Chester is not a lonley section of road. Your crazy for doing that
there.(you need to do it on the newly paved pigeon hollow
Re: the first comments referring to the speed differentials. You read it
wrong.With the limit at 75 mph they were actually driving at 83 to 85.
Now with the limits at 80 mph the are driving between 81 and 85. SO...there was
an actual slow down (but I am not sure it is statistically significant.
I passed a 35 mph sign the other day and discussed speed limit with my 11 year
old son. He said that the actual speed limit was 5-10 mph over that.I don't consider myself to be a "speeder" and try to stay within the limits,
but I guess this is my wake up call.Look for my new book - the
psychology of a speeder - analyzing why raising the speed limit decreased
Perhaps we should calculate statistics for all to see. How do they get that
83-85 mph? They take thousands of vehicles speeds and average them. How do they
get 81-85? They calculate THOUSANDS of cars and average them.Thye raised
the speed limit, and guess what? NO ONE WENT FASTER! My goodness people! You
start complaining about raising the speed limit, and investigations have shown
that THEY WENT SLOWER!But yes, because now there is a bih 80 instead
of a 75, it is more dangerous, it doesn't matter what speed the cars are going,
just the sign.
Speed should be determined by road conditions, not by sign put up to collect
It's a shame that we change speed limits since people refuse to obey the law.
Our moral decline continues.If people want to speed then that's
their right, but they should expect the possibility of getting caught. The govt
achieves nothing by legalizing bad behavior.
I take that road a lot, and for some reason going in between 80-85 just feels
natural on the road. This speed change had made my life so much easier. Maybe
now we could focus on changing it around Beaver...
Judging from the speed of traffic when I drive to SLC, which is quite often, I
thought the speed limit between Tremonton and Bountiful WAS 85 mph. And I'm
just keeping up with everybody else.
I guess I'm just lucky. I haven't been pulled over for speeding since I was 16,
and I make it from Ogden down to Fillmore in usually around 2 hrs and 10
minutes. Love that stretch from Springville to Fillmore. Nothing out there!
I like to drive 83 around the Fillmore Beaver area. That is a good stretch of
I15 to speed.
Driving at 80 mph any time any where is Stupid, Dangers and idiotic. It's hard
to believe intelligent people would risk their lives and the lives of their
passengers to save time. Government officials that authorized this need to be
fired. Get smart people . . . use your head . . . speed kills . . . and it's
not good on your car, either.
Ever driven on I-84 east of Portland? The state speed limit is 65, even on
straight, flat, rural interstates, and it's a frustrating waste of time that
accomplishes almost nothing. We need to see accident rates on that highway
versus I-15 in central Utah.All cars are not created equal. A
Suzuki Samurai at 80 mph is very unsafe, while a BMW 3-series is much safer.
Who should be ticketed are the ones speeding in unsafe cars.
I don't know if some people delibertly drive in the left lane, are just not
paying attention or what but it appears dangeous to pass on the right though it
is frequently done. Is that legal or not, I don't know.Once I saw a
big 18 wheeler get right up behind a car in the left lane & even honked his big
horn, but that didn't seem to get him to move over out of the left lane.
After driving on I-15 a lot, there must be a lot of stupid people as it seems
most of the cars are going that fast. Sometimes you get really stupid people
that pass the 80mph stupid people "like they are standing still."Honestly, I can't see much difference in the traffic on the 80mph sectins and
the nearby 75 mph sections. It seems to me a lot drive about the same on both
Janice Fisher, D-West Valley City, was more somber, saying speed kills."Is it true that we're more likely to get killed in a crash the faster we're
going?" she asked Braceras.Isn't this a good thing for society?
after all it's cheaper to bury someone than it is to keep them alive and with
all the pending goverment cost cutting in health care i would think that raising
the speed limit to 100 could save billions
is a great place to go faster. Good job pointing that out Cowboy Joe
With a 75 mile an hour limit, most people drive the rule-of-thumb 5-10 miles
over the limit. With an 80 mph limit, rational drivers know that UHP will
probably not give them the same latitude, to they keep it in the 80-85 range.
That's why there is less 'speeding.'And just in case the point
hasn't sunk in, if you're driving in the left lane and not passing anyone, MOVE
OVER! (It's the law.)
WHAAAAAATTTTT? Did the writer know what she was saying in that claim? Ok, it
looks like the speed at which most people drive is 81-85 -it’s a constant!
The only number that’s changing is the speed limit. In other words, why
don’t we raise the speed limit to 300, in that way, 81-85 will be
VEEEEEEERYYYYY SLOW! ...great LOGIC Desnews reporters!
UDOT numbers crunchers must not get out much. While gas prices were high in
2008, people speed less and drove less, skewing these stats. Add the numbers
for 2009 and you'll see an uptick.If people drove less in 2008 and
there were the same number of crashes as the previous year, it's an increase.As for limits, either enforce them effectively, or take the signs down
except when road conditions (curves/hills) warrant them.
LOL,I take it you didn't read the article, at all? No increase in
accidents, even fender benders, occurred from the increased speed limit.Unfortunately raising speed limits in this country is probably a bad
idea because driver education is a joke along with people eating, talking on
cellphones, applying make up, yelling at their kids, while driving. Not to
mention those who are unable to follow even the most basic of driving tenets
such as signaling, keeping right, etc.