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Utahns commit to health-care reform

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Me | 10:01 p.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Watch out America ... this IS the socialist agenda!! If this passes, big gov will dictate the basic decisions of our lives, and our rights will be gone ...
Bullies w/o democracy | 10:03 p.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Health care reform? Yes. This type of reform that redoes the entire system? A power grab by gov't disguised as compassion.If it were for real their would be more open debate, more openness about the details, less demonizing of opponents of these plans. But instead we have a president who mocks opposition and is not pushed for more answers. Here now, no questions ask or you are branded as a complainer, ignoramus , liar, whiner, racist and/many other negative names.And this is supposed to be a democratic process? This is more like a bully telling us what we have to do for own own good.
GO OFA! | 10:35 p.m. Oct. 20, 2009
I commend Organizing for America on their efforts to get real healthcare reform accomplished this year. One American DIES every 12 minutes in this country due to lack of healthcare. Around 3,000 people, not all Americans, died in the 9/11 attacks and we have spent countless billions on the needless invasion and occupation of Iraq since March, 2003. The Bush Administration spent $3,000 per second on that needless war resulting in just over 4,000 American casualties. Over 10 times more Americans DIE every year because of no healthcare. Where are US priorities? Should we spend BILLIONS on weapons with the sole purpose of murdering thousands in unnecessary wars or that same money on trying to save American lives? Is the choice really that mind-boggling? Call your Representative and Senators Hatch and Bennett today and insist on meaningful healthcare reform!
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Anonymous | 12:08 a.m. Oct. 21, 2009
Listen..

With Healthcare Insurance and one colonoscopy, multiple bills arrive from IHC. There are large bills but also smaller bills from other doctors that supposedly took part in it and bill individually?

The stress of how to figure out the mess. What did they do? Were they really needed?

The current healthcare system is destroying us financially as well as physically.

How does ones health recover after the double edged sword of bills as well.

Then think of Central Utah Clinic (Think its called something else now) and being described antidepressants just because the Doctor does not want to refer the patient for additional allergy tests (the Doctor gets a kickback from each patient that gets a prescription for it). Later after going out on my own to a specialist, an allergy test shows the real problem. The Doctor is mad that the antidepressants are no longer being taken (Money).

Another Doctor Office in Orem and the patients are put on hold while the Doctor listens to the sales pitch of the pharmacuetical vendor. Later the Doctor tells take this medicine even though it has nothing to do with the problem (Same medicine as the pharmacuetical vendor).
Illegals callig? | 3:45 a.m. Oct. 21, 2009
I hope this group is not contacting illegals and that any one who post a call or message to our congressmen are legal and registered voters.

Anyone who favors the Obama plan and socialized health care will be in for a big surprise when all this plan does is ruin health care in america.

I Urge everyone to call their congressmen and tell them to vote against this legislation and its bogus claims. It will do nothing but bankrupt citizens and the government and the economy.

Still no one knows what this plan is and any detailed information and to blindly vote for it. This health care reform must be one of the biggest scams ever pulled over on a nation of people who are blindly willing to surrender their rights and freedoms.
re:Bullies | 6:52 a.m. Oct. 21, 2009
"You are either with us or against us." Anyone who questions our actions are not real Americans.

These were quotes from the Bush Administration, not the Obama administration. Get your presidents straight.

The Obama administration welcomes debate from all sides, encourages ideas and is open to anything that will work. At the same time, our current president is being assaulted daily by ultra-right wingers in all media forums, staged town hall anger, and even being called a lier in congress. The one that I cannot believe is being told he hates his mother and grandparents that raised him, unbelievable!

Yes, there are bullies, you just missed the mark.
To OFA and Anonymous | 6:58 a.m. Oct. 21, 2009
You both are brain washed. That statistic about a person dying every 12 minutes in this country due to lack of healthcare is made up. People in this country lacking healthcare can get care.

The pharmaceutical vendor story is rhetoric. Physicians don't get kickbacks from prescribing medications.

You people are clueless. Allowing the government to control healthcare will not improve care, but will worsen care. More people will die because of costs controls and cutbacks than would die from not having care. See what is happening in Canada and Britain.

There needs to be insurance reform or regulation, not governmental takeover. Governmental takeover will lessen the care that is available and care will have to be rationed. So people may die while waiting for certain high cost procedures to be performed.

Wake up all of you and stop burying your head in the sand.
Re: Re: Bullies | 8:31 a.m. Oct. 21, 2009
NO, YOU are mistaken. Bush can't hold a candle to Obama and his minions. If you don't agree with BHO you are harassed, called everything and anything.
BHO welcomes debate??? Give me a break! He only welcomes debate that agrees with him. Ask conservative in congress. Look at his reaction to FOX News just because they dare disagree with him. He was happy with the insurance industry until they started disagreeing with him and now he makes them out to be greedy and mean. Ask the US Chamber of Commerce....how dare they disagree with him. Welcomes Debate? Give me a break!
xscribe | 8:34 a.m. Oct. 21, 2009
Oh, so many "experts" on here who are against Obama's plan, and they still call it socialized medicine. Please get an education or listen to the news or something. THIS IS NOT A SOCIALIZED PLAN. Please stop throwing that word around. If it were a socialized plan, everyone would have the exact same coverage. That's just not going to be the case. That's lie number one.

Then Bullies says that we have a president who mocks opposition (I believe the opposite to be true) and that he brands them as complainers, ignoramus , liar, whiner, racist and/many other negative names. I'd like "Bullies" to please point us to a cite or website that shows he has said these words. From what I recall, it was Glenn Beck who called Obama a racist.

Then we've got To OFA and Anonymous, who is apparently the biggest "expert" of us all and know exactly what this plan will do. And please don't tell us the pharmaceutical vendor story is rhetoric, when I watch 4-6 reps come talk to my doctor every time I have an appointment. No wonder I'm there no less than an hour.
Anonymous | 9:02 a.m. Oct. 21, 2009
My In-laws live in Canada. My Father-in-law was having heart problems. He couldn't get in for tests for about four months. Luckily, in those months, he didn't die. Once he got the tests, they found that he needed triple by-pass surgery. It was so bad that they wouldn't let him leave the hospital after the test. They just admitted him for immediate surgery.

Most Canadians loved the idea of their health care system when it started. Now most think it is garbage.

You talk about people dying from being uninsured. If this passes, you will be talking about just as many or maybe more insured people dying while waiting for care.
Anonymous | 9:16 a.m. Oct. 21, 2009
The State of Utah Population is 2,736,424 - Jul 2008

So we can logically deduce that 2,536,424 are AGAINSTS OFA. That's over 92% !!!!
Best "Volunteers".... | 9:39 a.m. Oct. 21, 2009
that George Sorros' money can buy! Shakedown of taxpayers by ACORN, SEIU and other so-called community organizing groups. Actually, that title for them is a euphanism. More like, organized thugs using our tax paying dollars ($5 billion of it in Obama-Democrat bloated "stimulus" bill) for corrupt ACORN and SEIU. It's disgusting beyond words. As far as a "plan," Obama doesn't have a PLAN. Please show me where he has a plan. It's not on White House website? There are 5 Democratic "plans." Obama just wants a political victory but ultimately, as was taped on You Tube, he wants a "single-payer, universal [government mandated] health care system." the Obama Gravy Train Express continues! Meanwhile, hard working small business owners and middle class are in the cross-hairs. Don't be deceived by all of the smarmy emotionalism and horror stories. Thi is all about Radically Changing our Society and government to Socialism, and health care and Cap and tax are two main vehicles to do it.

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