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BYU football: Cougars, Frogs developing quite the storied rivalry
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BleedCougarBlue | 8:54 p.m. Oct. 19, 2009
BYU 31 - TCU 27
Ted | 8:54 p.m. Oct. 19, 2009
TCU has better athletes no doubt... much faster.... more agile.... should be a
great game this time around I hope, not like the blow out last year... If cougs
can't get up for this one, they deserve to lose again.
Da Cougs! | 9:20 p.m. Oct. 19, 2009
BYU 72 TCU 3
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correction | 9:21 p.m. Oct. 19, 2009
Isn't BYU ranked 16, not 18?
#16: fact checker | 10:16 p.m. Oct. 19, 2009
BYU is ranked 16th across the board in the AP and Coaches polls and in the BCS
rankings.
Anonymous | 10:55 p.m. Oct. 19, 2009
TCU 38 BYU 17. TCU's defense is too good and their offense is good enough
to score on BYU's weak D. I wouldn't be shocked if BYU ends up with 3
home losses this season because the Utes game is a toss up.
Sounds like fun | 10:56 p.m. Oct. 19, 2009
Everyone knows TCU has faster athletes than BYU. That is a given.
Everyone knows that TCU eyes a BYU tackling dummy all year in hopes of getting their dander up for beating the athletically inferior Cougars. That is a given.
Everyone knows that BYU has a lot of "Mormons" on their team and that TCU has a lot of "Christians" on their team, and that the TCU players hate to even shake hands with the Cougars before or after the game. That is a given.
But we play the game anyway because it is also about a lot of other things like sportsmanship, like teamwork, like determination, mental toughness, preparation and execution.
Last year BYU did not have a good game plan for the faster Frogs. This year they do. I can't wait to cheer the Cougars to a victory over a superior squad.
Everyone knows that TCU eyes a BYU tackling dummy all year in hopes of getting their dander up for beating the athletically inferior Cougars. That is a given.
Everyone knows that BYU has a lot of "Mormons" on their team and that TCU has a lot of "Christians" on their team, and that the TCU players hate to even shake hands with the Cougars before or after the game. That is a given.
But we play the game anyway because it is also about a lot of other things like sportsmanship, like teamwork, like determination, mental toughness, preparation and execution.
Last year BYU did not have a good game plan for the faster Frogs. This year they do. I can't wait to cheer the Cougars to a victory over a superior squad.
SoCalTrueBlue | 11:26 p.m. Oct. 19, 2009
If Manase Tonga is back for this game and if the flu bug doesn't bite the
Cougars team,they will step up and hold the Frogs to 27 points. BYU wins 28-27.
CALBLUE | 11:34 p.m. Oct. 19, 2009
I woould like to believe that BYU can hang with and beat TCU. After going to
the Vegas and San Diego games I just don't believe we can stay with their
faster players and add that we are beat up with no pass rush, it may be a long
day. But they still play the game and who knows.
What is their deal? | 12:46 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
I swear Gary Patterson was seeking out bulletin board material for the BYU game.
Then he found some dumb comment in an article Darnell Franchuk or whoever wrote
that said "TCU is not that tough." Then he was like "OH there you
see!"
I hope BYU comes to smack TCU in the mouth. These guys are starting to bother me. I'm almost starting to like them less than Utah because #1 they are usually a greater threat than Utah, and #2 their fans are starting to be juat as bad. TCU might have some quick guys but our guys can smack them around. That's what the cougs need to do this year. They did it to Oklahoma, which, I know isn't saying a lot because of the 3 losses. But Oklahoma still has athletes. In my opinion this is way more of a statement game for BYU than it is for TCU and I hope the Cougars play like it. I'm going to be screaming my head off for 4 quarters for the BYU defense to take Jeremy Kerley's head off. It's going to be a wild and crazy Saturday!
I hope BYU comes to smack TCU in the mouth. These guys are starting to bother me. I'm almost starting to like them less than Utah because #1 they are usually a greater threat than Utah, and #2 their fans are starting to be juat as bad. TCU might have some quick guys but our guys can smack them around. That's what the cougs need to do this year. They did it to Oklahoma, which, I know isn't saying a lot because of the 3 losses. But Oklahoma still has athletes. In my opinion this is way more of a statement game for BYU than it is for TCU and I hope the Cougars play like it. I'm going to be screaming my head off for 4 quarters for the BYU defense to take Jeremy Kerley's head off. It's going to be a wild and crazy Saturday!
Legal Beagle | 5:39 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
I'll add to the chorus and remind the author that BYU is currently ranked
#16, not #18 as written. It does help to actually check the rankings before
writing. When simple facts are wrong, it is easy to dismiss all the contents of
an article.
Not worried a all | 5:42 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Cougars will make us proud. Only concern is flu bug getting us.
BYU's seniors | 7:12 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
won't let them lose this game.
Dalton's passing vs. BYU Pass D. | 7:18 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
With the sole exception of FSU, BYU's D has been very stingy in giving up
rushing yards with numbers very similar to TCUs (Who also had an off game and
gave up about 250 yards on the ground to Air Force). BYU has given up 118, 37,
66, 109, 45, and 20 rushing yards in their non FSU games, and the 118 was to
Oklahoma who returned 2 running backs who ruched for over 1000 yards last year.
BYU has also been unusually succesfull containing mobile QBs this year holding
USU's Borel to about 2YPC and UNLV's Clayton to 0 yards.
TCU is going to have to go to the air to move the ball consistently. It will be interesting. Neither TCU's passing game nor BYU's passing defense has been terribly impressive.
TCU is going to have to go to the air to move the ball consistently. It will be interesting. Neither TCU's passing game nor BYU's passing defense has been terribly impressive.
The Man | 7:26 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
TCU is as fast as Florida State but better all around. Look how BYU struggled
with San Diego State and unless BYU figures out how to pressure the QB this will
be a Florida State type of Game. I hope that the Cougs have learned their
lesson. Go Cougs
PS. I have to disagree with Sounds Like Fun and even though there is a religious difference there is respect and it is good for all religions that these teams are getting so much exposure to national spot light. Look at the middle east and the religious tension and here in the US two different religions have no problem playing a sports game against each other. I have been to Ft Worth and have talked a lot of football with TCU fans and they are good people and they love the BYU game because of the competition.
PS. I have to disagree with Sounds Like Fun and even though there is a religious difference there is respect and it is good for all religions that these teams are getting so much exposure to national spot light. Look at the middle east and the religious tension and here in the US two different religions have no problem playing a sports game against each other. I have been to Ft Worth and have talked a lot of football with TCU fans and they are good people and they love the BYU game because of the competition.
BYU O-line vs. TCU's D. | 7:34 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Will they be able to open holes for the running game? Will they be able to give
Hall the time he needs?. The answer to both of these questions is...... Kind
of.
BYU will probably average a little over 3 yards per carry and finish with close to 100 yards. Not particularly impressive, but definately above average against a very good TCU team.
Max Hall will get sacked. He will probably get sacked several times. TCU is too good on efence for this not to happen. The key is whether the sacks result from a defender occasionally beating his man with a great play and and superior athletic ability, or simply an indication of the constant pressure that TCU is putting on Hall.
If it is the first, TCU will be in trouble. Give Max Hall time and he will be able to pick apart just about any defence.
If Hall is constantly being harried and knocked down, and is froced into trying to force huge plays, it could get ugly for BYU.
That being said, I think that BYU gives Hall enough time to throw most of the time. Renyolds has Hughs # and Tonga's blocking is the differece.
BYU will probably average a little over 3 yards per carry and finish with close to 100 yards. Not particularly impressive, but definately above average against a very good TCU team.
Max Hall will get sacked. He will probably get sacked several times. TCU is too good on efence for this not to happen. The key is whether the sacks result from a defender occasionally beating his man with a great play and and superior athletic ability, or simply an indication of the constant pressure that TCU is putting on Hall.
If it is the first, TCU will be in trouble. Give Max Hall time and he will be able to pick apart just about any defence.
If Hall is constantly being harried and knocked down, and is froced into trying to force huge plays, it could get ugly for BYU.
That being said, I think that BYU gives Hall enough time to throw most of the time. Renyolds has Hughs # and Tonga's blocking is the differece.
Future Fight Song | 7:37 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Rise and shout the Cougars are out of the UPI to 20!
re: BYU's seniors | 8:05 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Yeah, there's no way BYU will be embarrassed by 26 points at home with a
senior QB!
Oh, sorry. Forgot about that powerhouse FSU. Did you know their only DI win this year is that 26 point beatdown of BYU at LES? How pathetic is that!
Oh, sorry. Forgot about that powerhouse FSU. Did you know their only DI win this year is that 26 point beatdown of BYU at LES? How pathetic is that!
re: What is their deal? | 8:09 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Whatever makes you feel better Cougs.
TCU a bigger threat?
Of the last 6 MWC titles, Utah has 3, BYU has 2, TCU has 1.
In that time, Utah has 2 BCS trips, TCU/BYU have none.
Silly Cougar fan trying to take a shot at the Utes. If only those pesky STATS didn't get in the way and always prove you wrong!
TCU a bigger threat?
Of the last 6 MWC titles, Utah has 3, BYU has 2, TCU has 1.
In that time, Utah has 2 BCS trips, TCU/BYU have none.
Silly Cougar fan trying to take a shot at the Utes. If only those pesky STATS didn't get in the way and always prove you wrong!
The Seer | 8:12 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
TCU has a better, more experienced coach than BYU.
TCU has a quicker, more stingy defense than BYU.
TCU has a more effective offense than BYU.
TCU has a better religion than BYU.
TCU: 31
BYU: 17
TCU has a quicker, more stingy defense than BYU.
TCU has a more effective offense than BYU.
TCU has a better religion than BYU.
TCU: 31
BYU: 17
speed in texas | 8:27 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
The speed that tcu has is way to much for byu to handle. Look what florida
state. Byu will keep it close for a little then its over. Tcu by 2 td's
Anonymous | 8:29 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
BYU stand no chance. RES will be EMPTY by halftime. Quest for perfection
cougars. Perfection at losing games when they count that is.
Re: Sounds Like Fun | 8:30 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
What exactly is your definition of the word "given"?
Faster athletes at TCU? Probably
TCU hates to even shake hands with BYU because they are Mormons? Really, where does this come from? I doubt they even care.
TCU always has a BYU tacking dummy? I heard that last year, but I seriously doubt that they have it this year. It wasn't so much that they dislike BYU, but just that BYU was undefeated in conference for 2 years, so they were coming for them. If the tacking dummies have jersey's and helmets this year, it is probably the Utes for what happened last year.
This has been a pretty good rivalry over the years though. That first year in the conference was hard to swallow because they squeezed by both the Cougars and Utes on questionable play calls.
I hope it is an excellent game, but none of the things in "Sounds Like Fun"'s post are "given". Especially the last two, which are way out of line.
Faster athletes at TCU? Probably
TCU hates to even shake hands with BYU because they are Mormons? Really, where does this come from? I doubt they even care.
TCU always has a BYU tacking dummy? I heard that last year, but I seriously doubt that they have it this year. It wasn't so much that they dislike BYU, but just that BYU was undefeated in conference for 2 years, so they were coming for them. If the tacking dummies have jersey's and helmets this year, it is probably the Utes for what happened last year.
This has been a pretty good rivalry over the years though. That first year in the conference was hard to swallow because they squeezed by both the Cougars and Utes on questionable play calls.
I hope it is an excellent game, but none of the things in "Sounds Like Fun"'s post are "given". Especially the last two, which are way out of line.
Cowboy Cougar | 8:30 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Last year in Fort Worth, the crowd was definitely a factor. I think BYU has
more weapons overall. Let's get fired up !!
trueblue | 8:39 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
I would like to know if any of you people that make the comment " TCU has
better/faster Atheletes " know any of those supposed atheletes personaly ?
I am certain that you don't and you just quote what you hear from someone
else. Reading some of your comments is kind of like watching an NBA basketball
game with a profesional bowler calling the game. All you fans out there who
don't realy care what happens and you just want to get your two cents in,
"Go Bowling" You just make yourself sound stupid blogging on these
boards.
This game will be won by the team that is more physichal. If the cougars stay back and play soft, TCU will take it right at them. TCU can execute and you can't count on them making mistakes. BYU must score a lot of points. BYU's offense will need to carry the team. They are the best part of the team and they need to show it on Saturday. And for "goodness sake" Cougar D step up and play tuff physichal defense.
This game will be won by the team that is more physichal. If the cougars stay back and play soft, TCU will take it right at them. TCU can execute and you can't count on them making mistakes. BYU must score a lot of points. BYU's offense will need to carry the team. They are the best part of the team and they need to show it on Saturday. And for "goodness sake" Cougar D step up and play tuff physichal defense.
re: The Seer | 8:44 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Leave religion out of the discussion, this is football.
Ted | 8:44 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Someone posted:
"Everyone knows that BYU has a lot of "Mormons" on their team and that TCU has a lot of "Christians" on their team, and that the TCU players hate to even shake hands with the Cougars before or after the game. That is a given."
That is totally absurd...
I've watched TCU games for a number of years. Never heard that one. Coach Patterson runs a class organization. As does Bronco.
"Everyone knows that BYU has a lot of "Mormons" on their team and that TCU has a lot of "Christians" on their team, and that the TCU players hate to even shake hands with the Cougars before or after the game. That is a given."
That is totally absurd...
I've watched TCU games for a number of years. Never heard that one. Coach Patterson runs a class organization. As does Bronco.
Re: re: What is their deal? | 8:52 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Memo to Ute fans: Urban Meyer is no longer your coach. Claiming his teams as
examples of the current Utah success is like BYU fans claiming Lavell
Edward's championship teams as examples of their current success: Nice for
the tradition, but the era is over.
Whittingham and Mendenhall started at the same time. They have coached the same number of games. Mendenhall has more victories and conference championships; Whittingham has one very lucky BCS season and one conference championship during the same season.
Indeed, aside from the 2008 season since Whittingham took over the Utes have been a consistent 3rd place team in the MWC, which is where they will end up this year.
Whittingham and Mendenhall started at the same time. They have coached the same number of games. Mendenhall has more victories and conference championships; Whittingham has one very lucky BCS season and one conference championship during the same season.
Indeed, aside from the 2008 season since Whittingham took over the Utes have been a consistent 3rd place team in the MWC, which is where they will end up this year.
Cougs | 8:59 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
If the Cougs can't get motivated to smack the Frogs in the mouth for this
one then the coaching staff has not done there job. This should be the most
physical game of the year. You beat spead with physical play up front. The
offensive line and Tonga should be motivated to run the ball. Can't wait
to see which team wants this game more. If it only comes down to coaching I
have my concerns.
TCU wins every year | 9:02 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Not much of a rivalry so far. TCU wins every year. BYU can't compete with
TCU's athletes. I can only remember one year (John Becks senior year) that
BYU beat TCU.
Re: The Seer | 9:03 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
"TCU has a better, more experienced coach than BYU."
Bronco Mendenhall is 2-2 head-to-head against Gary Patterson. Not much superiority there.
"TCU has a quicker, more stingy defense than BYU."
No one disputes that. But most analysts agree TCU has yet to encounter an offense as good as BYU's this season.
"TCU has a more effective offense than BYU."
Continuing to use hallucinogenic drugs can be harmful to your health.
"TCU has a better religion than BYU."
Whatever.
"TCU: 31
BYU: 17"
"And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many."
Matthew 24:11
Bronco Mendenhall is 2-2 head-to-head against Gary Patterson. Not much superiority there.
"TCU has a quicker, more stingy defense than BYU."
No one disputes that. But most analysts agree TCU has yet to encounter an offense as good as BYU's this season.
"TCU has a more effective offense than BYU."
Continuing to use hallucinogenic drugs can be harmful to your health.
"TCU has a better religion than BYU."
Whatever.
"TCU: 31
BYU: 17"
"And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many."
Matthew 24:11
TCU's religion | 9:03 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
TCU gets up more for the game with BYU than the game for Utah or anyone else in
the MWC because the evangelicals love to hate the Mormons. It doesn't hurt
the rivalry that it is BYU that has the history of success on the football
field. Of course, they're not the only team in the MWC that considers BYU
to be their main rival. When I attended SDSU I heard many times the refrain that
"BYU is our main rival." BYU usually doesn't get up for these
teams that think of BYU as their big rival. But this time, I think the Cougars
will be up.
In any case, I always love it when BYU gets to play TCU in Provo.
In any case, I always love it when BYU gets to play TCU in Provo.
tcu grad | 9:06 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
This will be a big game for both teams - if for different reasons.
After cheering the Frogs in several other conferences, please know that being in the MWC has been great. Utes and Coog fans have been fun and make all this rivalry talk enjoyable.
But the most fun is cheering when a MWC team is tearing up the BCS. Last year, I was sick after Utah beat TCU, but I was cheering the Utes all the way to the BCS game so they could beat one of those over-rated BCS schools.
After cheering the Frogs in several other conferences, please know that being in the MWC has been great. Utes and Coog fans have been fun and make all this rivalry talk enjoyable.
But the most fun is cheering when a MWC team is tearing up the BCS. Last year, I was sick after Utah beat TCU, but I was cheering the Utes all the way to the BCS game so they could beat one of those over-rated BCS schools.
Religion?? | 9:12 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Hey- The comments on religion are ridiculous. Show some class...This has nothing
to do with religion and everything to do with two good football teams playing
eachother in the national spotlight on Saturday.
There is no need for religion to be any part of these conversations. I am an AVID BYU FAN, and I think all BYU fans can see that TCU has a very good, fast team this year. We certainly have our work cut out for us, but we are playing at home and we will be up or this game....
Leave RELIGION OUT OF IT! Show some CLASS...
There is no need for religion to be any part of these conversations. I am an AVID BYU FAN, and I think all BYU fans can see that TCU has a very good, fast team this year. We certainly have our work cut out for us, but we are playing at home and we will be up or this game....
Leave RELIGION OUT OF IT! Show some CLASS...
To: Seer | 9:15 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
and my Mom is prettier than your Mom. Can we be more childish.
For the record ...
"TCU is the largest of 17 colleges and universities associated with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) ..." I'm glad those students have faith in their life.
For the record ...
"TCU is the largest of 17 colleges and universities associated with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) ..." I'm glad those students have faith in their life.
Re anon | 9:26 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
You mean LES
the SEER ? | 9:48 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
"then shall the seers be ashamed and the diviners
confounded"....Micah Ch.3....So Mr. SEER we are ashamed of your divining
efforts. They fall on deaf ears....Go COUGS.
Re: Every Year at 9:02am | 10:03 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Awesome fact-checking. "I can only remember one year (John Becks senior
year) that BYU beat TCU." How about the year AFTER John Beck's senior
year, when BYU was in the midst of their second consecutive undefeated run
through the conference? You can't do that without beating TCU (and Utah)
twice in a row. The record is 2-2 since TCU joined the MWC (same as the record
against that team whose fans proclaim that it "carries the conference every
year" when they win a championship for the first time in 4 years). Look it
up if you want, it isn't that hard to find. And just curious: how do you
remember a loss last year and 4 years ago, a win 3 years ago but can't
remember a win 2 years ago? Must be tough to live with those red goggles on...I
would have blocked out all memories from that year too after losing 27-0 to
UNLV...
re: 8:52AM | 10:05 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Lucky BCS run for Whit? Please. It's so sad how far BYU has fallen.
Their fans are so jealous of their supposed "little brothers" to the
north.
Just face the facts that Utah has been GREAT twice in 5 years, while BYU has failed to be a GREAT football team in a quarter-decade.
Guess we were "lucky" to beat the mighty Cougs by 24 last year. Sorry, but the definition of Luck is what BYU did in 2006/2007 against Utah. And it's a good thing, otherwise you'd be riding a current 7 game losing streak to the Utes.
FYI - Bronco's title in 2007 was a gift by the football gods. Utah lost their QB, RB, best WR, best OL and best DL by the 2nd game of the year. And that team still had the Cougs beat in LES.
Apparently Blue is the new color of jealousy.
Just face the facts that Utah has been GREAT twice in 5 years, while BYU has failed to be a GREAT football team in a quarter-decade.
Guess we were "lucky" to beat the mighty Cougs by 24 last year. Sorry, but the definition of Luck is what BYU did in 2006/2007 against Utah. And it's a good thing, otherwise you'd be riding a current 7 game losing streak to the Utes.
FYI - Bronco's title in 2007 was a gift by the football gods. Utah lost their QB, RB, best WR, best OL and best DL by the 2nd game of the year. And that team still had the Cougs beat in LES.
Apparently Blue is the new color of jealousy.
Ute trolls | 10:07 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
The Ute trolls throw out religion all the time to bash BYU. Now they try to
pretend that TCU hates us because of religion as well. They judge us for our
religion and claim it is us doing the judging. Is that the same when we play
Notre Dame and Boston College - I'm sure we'll hear from the same
peanut gallery.
By the way - don't you love it when big time schools bring a sacrificial lamb into their stadium for a pay day with no return game at all! Like Notre Dame will do in a few years with Utah and Michigan did last year with Utah (but didn't plan on being the worst team they've had in 50 years).
Unless it is a special circumstance like the old kick off/pigskin classics or the christening of the Taj Mahal of football we almost always get the respect of home/away or minimum of 2 for 1 from the top schools - when they have the guts to play us.
By the way - don't you love it when big time schools bring a sacrificial lamb into their stadium for a pay day with no return game at all! Like Notre Dame will do in a few years with Utah and Michigan did last year with Utah (but didn't plan on being the worst team they've had in 50 years).
Unless it is a special circumstance like the old kick off/pigskin classics or the christening of the Taj Mahal of football we almost always get the respect of home/away or minimum of 2 for 1 from the top schools - when they have the guts to play us.
TCU is good - be prepared | 10:29 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
2005 L 51-50 OT at Home
2006 W 31-17 at TCU
2007 W 27-22 at Home
2008 L 32-7 at TCU
TCU has never dominated BYU at LES. 2005 could have easily gone the other way. Chalk that year up to all conference teams learning about TCU and how to game plan for them (everyone lost to them as they were undefeated in conference). That also was Bronco's first MWC game as head coach and everyone was learning.
I believe last year was a total over confindence issue by coaches and players a like which led to poor preparation. When we as fans look at our schedule each year and circle the TCU game as the must win if we want to win the conference it is important. They are the team most suited to beat us year in and year out. Utah is a long standing rival and those games have meaning because of that - but TCU is just plain tough and consistent.
With all the eagle scouts BYU has I hope they know how to "be prepared".
BYU needs to bring their A game. Go Cougars!
2006 W 31-17 at TCU
2007 W 27-22 at Home
2008 L 32-7 at TCU
TCU has never dominated BYU at LES. 2005 could have easily gone the other way. Chalk that year up to all conference teams learning about TCU and how to game plan for them (everyone lost to them as they were undefeated in conference). That also was Bronco's first MWC game as head coach and everyone was learning.
I believe last year was a total over confindence issue by coaches and players a like which led to poor preparation. When we as fans look at our schedule each year and circle the TCU game as the must win if we want to win the conference it is important. They are the team most suited to beat us year in and year out. Utah is a long standing rival and those games have meaning because of that - but TCU is just plain tough and consistent.
With all the eagle scouts BYU has I hope they know how to "be prepared".
BYU needs to bring their A game. Go Cougars!
RE: re: What is their deal? | 10:37 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Since TCU has been in the conference TCU has one Championship, UofU has 1
Championship and BYU has 2. See, I can start at an arbitrary point in time and
make my stats work for me too.
TCU Christians | 10:37 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
The good Christians at TCU actually read the bible LITERALLY. Tehehehe. So TCU
athletes actually believe the earth is 7000 years old, that women are actually
derived from a man's RIB (that's a good one), and that Noah actually
built a boat large enough to hold two of every, single animal on the planet
(ahuh!), and that Moses actually "parted" the Red Sea (mmmmkay). Oh,
wait -- so do BYU students and athletes! I believe in Neverland -- and go there
every once in a while in a big Spaceship.
Anonymous | 10:37 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Payback will be sweet!
It's unfortunate that TCU's BCS bubble will be busted. I'm tired of hearing about how "good" Boise St. is. What a joke!
It's unfortunate that TCU's BCS bubble will be busted. I'm tired of hearing about how "good" Boise St. is. What a joke!
stone cold sober | 10:39 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
RE: SoCalTrueBlue
When asked yesterday Mendenhall said that Tonga should be ready to go. Here's what I think. Last year the Cougs had a case of "swollenheaditis" and weren't ready to play in Texas. TCU has better athletes, but I don't think they are unbeatable. CSU made the mistake of kicking to Kearsey and our punter can't make that mistake. The Cougar D needs to eliminate big plays (quick scores) ,and the offense can't turn the ball over. I think the Cougs can win in that scenario.
When asked yesterday Mendenhall said that Tonga should be ready to go. Here's what I think. Last year the Cougs had a case of "swollenheaditis" and weren't ready to play in Texas. TCU has better athletes, but I don't think they are unbeatable. CSU made the mistake of kicking to Kearsey and our punter can't make that mistake. The Cougar D needs to eliminate big plays (quick scores) ,and the offense can't turn the ball over. I think the Cougs can win in that scenario.
Rivalry? | 10:44 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
I guess if you like lopsided rivalries.
32-7
Frogs
32-7
Frogs
RE; SoCalTrueBlue | 10:50 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
SoCalTrueBlue;
If , If,
( Fill in the blank , Tonga, Knee, Flu ..etc .)
woulda , coulda, shoulda.
YBU'S fight song where "The World is Our Campuss " and reality is not in the dictionary.
Face it blue bloods you are not BCS material and all of the scenarios don't matter. Look forward to Vegas and let the woeful FSU loss at home rest in peace.
Maybe next year.
If , If,
( Fill in the blank , Tonga, Knee, Flu ..etc .)
woulda , coulda, shoulda.
YBU'S fight song where "The World is Our Campuss " and reality is not in the dictionary.
Face it blue bloods you are not BCS material and all of the scenarios don't matter. Look forward to Vegas and let the woeful FSU loss at home rest in peace.
Maybe next year.
BYU Ranking | 10:52 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Hey blue die-hards it doesn't really matter if BYU is ranked 16 or 18
because after we thump you this Saturday in front of CGD boys you won't
sniff the polls for the rest of the year.
Jump Frogs Jump!!!
Jump Frogs Jump!!!
Re; re: 8:52AM | 10:53 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
Any objective person who watched the Utes win 4 games by a field goal or less
last year would admit they got extremely lucky. A missed field goal here, a
lousy call there, and the season would have been completely different.
And remember, one of those close wins was against a putrid New Mexico team that the Utes should have blown out of the stadium.
The only reasons the Utes went undefeated last year were the extraordinary leadership skills of Brian Johnson and the extraordinary kicking abilities of Louie Sakoda. Now that both are gone, it's not surprising the Utes are struggling against weak teams such as San Jose State and UNLV.
If the "football gods" smiled on BYU in 2007 then they returned the favor to the Utes in 2008. Take away a few key plays and the Utes would have had their usual 9-4 record last year. Which is likely to be their record this year.
And remember, one of those close wins was against a putrid New Mexico team that the Utes should have blown out of the stadium.
The only reasons the Utes went undefeated last year were the extraordinary leadership skills of Brian Johnson and the extraordinary kicking abilities of Louie Sakoda. Now that both are gone, it's not surprising the Utes are struggling against weak teams such as San Jose State and UNLV.
If the "football gods" smiled on BYU in 2007 then they returned the favor to the Utes in 2008. Take away a few key plays and the Utes would have had their usual 9-4 record last year. Which is likely to be their record this year.
Coug Fan | 10:55 a.m. Oct. 20, 2009
The religious comments posted on BYU articles only go to show there are not as
many "UTE FANS" as there are "BYU HATRERS".
It's sad to see people use their dislike for a certain religion as their basis for choosing a college team to "cheer" for. It's even more sad if some of the BYU haters are members of the very religion they like to take shots at!
Yes, BYU is owned and operated by the LDS church. And yes, BYU does have a larger percentage of LDS athletes on their teams. But there are many outstanding and faithful LDS athletes playing for the Ute's and other college programs throughout the nation. Most of them want to quietly practice their faith, and participate in the sport they love.
Please, lets talk about football, not religion.
It's sad to see people use their dislike for a certain religion as their basis for choosing a college team to "cheer" for. It's even more sad if some of the BYU haters are members of the very religion they like to take shots at!
Yes, BYU is owned and operated by the LDS church. And yes, BYU does have a larger percentage of LDS athletes on their teams. But there are many outstanding and faithful LDS athletes playing for the Ute's and other college programs throughout the nation. Most of them want to quietly practice their faith, and participate in the sport they love.
Please, lets talk about football, not religion.
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