Comments about ‘Utah tuition law helping hundreds of students’

My tax dollars are being used to reward those who have broken and continue to break our laws. STOP IT!

The story pretends that the pitiful students are benefiting from the tuition breaks. Well, Ms. Crompton, MOST students do not pay their tuition, their PARENTS do! Thus we are rewarding the lawbreaking illegal parents, not the innocent offspring, who benefit immensely from every other aspect of living here in the U.S.

Worse, we have stringent residency requirements that discriminate against LEGAL U.S. CITIZENS from other states, even those who are kids in military families stationed here but legally residents of a permanent state elsewhere.

REPEAL THE TUITION BREAK FOR ILLEGALS!

It is a luxury we can no longer afford with huge defecits in the state budget, regardless of how sympathetic some of the students might be.

Rubbish. Why should someone who is here BREAKING THE LAW get to reap the benefits of the system? I am an under 30 white male American and what benefits do I get? Name one scholarship or benefit that I am entitled to as a Caucasian male because you can't do it. There is a benefit for your race, your gender, your age, your religion, your sexual preference but I get nothing. I don't get lower admission standards, I don't get special scholarships and I don't get federal grants to help me out. I get to pay every dime by myself AND I get to pay taxes for ILLEGAL immigrant benefits too.

I don't care about how sad your story is or how tough life is for you, YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW and you are CHEATING THE SYSTEM that I help fund and that my grandparents died to build. You want equality? How about letting me have some of it!

Let me say that my heart does go out to the students who were brought here illegally when they were young by their parents.

However, I am weary of the air of entitlement exhibited by illegal aliens. I am furious at the unscrupulous employers who hire them and hope their businesses fail. If it were up to me I would seize their assets and put them in prison. I think it is so wrong that we hard-working, tax-paying, honest citizens have to bear the enormous social costs of illegal immigration while these immoral employers reap the profits. I am disillusioned and disappointed in state and federal governments that have failed so miserably in controlling this problem by enforcing our laws. I am saddened by untrustworthy media who seemingly have lost touch with journalistic integrity in reporting about illegal immigration. Their bias shows through.

Again, I'm genuinely sad for the kids, but because of all the corruption involved I think it would be a good thing overall if the bill to allow them to pay in-state tuition were repealed.

Let's return to honesty and integrity in this state and country. Is that too much to ask?

>undocumented parents

That would mean that there was no documentation of who her parents were.

I think what the writer meant was "illegal aliens."

There's no shortage of well-educated upper- and middle-class white males in the US; white males dominate America's positions of economic and political power. There's absolutely no need for a scholarship based on these criteria. If you can't understand that, you wouldn't qualify for a scholarship anyway.

By the way, I don't know what your religion is or where you go to school, but faithful Mormon tithe-payers in Bolivia, Nigeria, and the Philippines helped subsidize this white Utah Mormon boy's education at BYU. Sounds like a benefit for religion to me, and you can bet I don't take it for granted.

Unlike you, these 644 students don't feel entitled to anything. The tutition law allows them an opportunity to rise out of abject poverty, a circumstance I doubt you've ever faced. They could teach you a thing or two about hard work. And that system that your grandparents "died to build," these students will make positive contributions to it.

This is an insult and tragedy for the american people that these illegal foreign nationals can come here and blatantly slap us in the face with their defrauding and stealing our tax dollars from us.

What about the americans who can't get an education because and illegal has stolen the education from a deserving citizen? The american people just in Utah are defrauded millions of dollars a year by illegal aliens who have never paid a dime in taxes. This so disgusts me that we the people and citizens of america must and should be demanding that this be stopped. Illegals have not earned any right to my taxes or stick their hands in my pocket like the thieves they are.

Who ever wrote this story should feel very shamed to even report how openly we are being victimized by illegal aliens. Have they no shame or pride in being an american? Apparently not.

This was disgusting to read and I feel very insulted and offended by it, that criminals can enter this country illegally and brag about all they can steal.

Your scholarship is the LDS tuition rate that you get at the Y for being a church member and paying your tithing regularly. I guess you didn't pay attention at seminary and valiant classes which tell you to be compassionate to your fellow human beings.

I,a Utah resident from birth,bussed tables and rode the bus to get my college degree. Why can't they do the same thing? Where is the equity?

These are kids -- they did not break the law, their parents did. No reasonable person expects a child to take a stand against parents who want to immigrate to this country illegally.

The alternative is to deny illegal immigrant children the ability to get an education and create a better life for themselves. No ones interests are served if this group is not allowed access to affordable higher education.

Wow. So my state has no room for me to attend its universities and I have to take out loans to pay for it, but someone here ill-legally gets in and gets it paid for? Thats friggin awesome. Glad I'm paying state income tax for that. Bleeding heart liberals........

Shame on D.N. for publishing propaganda. Your slant for illegals is helping distroy American society. Start writing articles that support the laws and encourage people to obey them.

How thoughtless! So, since I lived just across the "border" in Idaho I had to pay two years of out of State Tuition...me and my parents paid taxes and are law abiding citizens of the United States! What does the word Citizen mean to you? Citizen means that you put forth something in order to gain those rights. I serve in the military too, doing my CIVIC duty. What was written in your article was repugnant. According to the Article if you cheat on your taxes, or just not pay them...come to the State of Utah illegally, you don't have to pay out of State Tuition. I am so grateful that I was able to graduate from one Utah's fine Univeristies...doing it, while working full time besides going to school, paying those out of state costs...so that illegal aliens didn't have to. Thanks, No wonder Utah has seen an increase in violent crime, gangs, illegal aliens, and depreciated hourly wages. Sorry UNDOCUMENTED immigrants, wouldn't want to offend... as the laws continue to shelter and support illegal activities. How Stupid! Be Citizens and support justice, Law and Order!

More stories about getting rewarded for the wrong thing and the folks doing the right thing pay for it. It boils one's blood.

Ms. Crompton and the legislators who continue to support in-state tuition are encouraging illegal aliens to commit multiple felonies in order to get jobs to pay for their tuition - document fraud, perjury on an I-9 form and identity theft.

In addition, students who are in the United States illegally and who do graduate under the in-state tuition program still cannot legally obtain employment.

Thus, is the nurse in this story who is illegally in the U.S. refraining from working now that she has her degree or is she using a bogus Social Security number and committing perjury on an I-9 form in order to obtain a job?

If she is using a phony Social Security number, does it belong to one of the 50,000 Utah children who are victims of illegal alien driven identity theft? If so, does that mean that Voices for Utah Children supports child identity theft by illegal aliens as long as the children impacted are American citizens?

For more information on the felonies committed by illegal aliens google "Illegal, but Not Undocumented: Identity Theft, Document Fraud, and Illegal Employment".

As an adult student I do not qualify for any scholarships, grants, etc yet we have undocumented young adults receiving a college education with no hope or a job unless we encourage them to continue breaking the law. Think about it, the child is undocumented and attends high school (which is a miracle at best, a trip around West High proves that)and graduates. Congratulations, now what are you going to do without proper documentation? Work? Go to a country you have never been? Oh, wait a minute, you can go to college without documentation. Let's postpone facing reality another 4 years. So, four years have past and the undocumented minor is now fully an undocumented adult with a college degree. Great, but now how to get work without documentation? All the U and other colleges in Utah are doing is supporting the continuation of fraud, theft, lies, and deceit. Make it a requirement they gain citizenship in those four years and this may be more accepted but all it is right now is more money for the colleges and universities.

Meanwhile, there are many other students who don't finish their education for lack of money to pay for it. And there are international students paying non-resident tuition who return to their own countries without a degree because they can't afford to keep paying exorbitant rates for out-of-staters. These students (who believe in obeying the laws) are those who really deserve the help--and we want to talk about how humane and just we are. Who are we fooling?

these kids didn't choose to come here their parents brought them. They aren't eligible for most scholarships, they aren't getting the breaks Hero is talking about, those go to legal minorities. Students who rarely work as hard as their undocumented counterparts. All this bill does is give students who had no choice in being here a little bit of a chance to improve themselves. I am a high school teacher, I have seen these kids, most of them wont make it to college. If one of them has the drive to get through all of the other obstacles they face (and there are a lot) then it would be a huge waste of resources not to give them a chance to move on.
In summary; they didn't break the law, their parents did, helping them get an education will help our society. We need nurses more than we need house cleaners.

Gangs come from people who feel alienated. This is a wonderful program and the people who benefit will over their life pay more in taxes than this program cost.

Utah will be blessed for being showing compassion to the "strangers" among us. It would be very cruel to say to one student in a highschool gratuating class, all your class mates who desire a university education can have one, but you can't because of how your parents got here.

Were we responsible for our parents actions, who among us could qualify to stay here in this country?

I came here as a legal immigrant, no-one granted me in-state tuition to attend school and I obeyed the law. This is nothing short of a public disgrace. This law should be repealed. What about a class action suit by foreign students and american citizen students who have to pay out-of-state tuition while illegals are granted the right to pay in-state tuition. My nephew, born in the USA to citizen parents, comes from Idaho and he isn't getting in-state tuition in Utah to attend nursing school. If these students were born here of illegal parents, the parents should be sent back to where-ever they came from the the students should purse legal status for them.

for undocumented (sounds better than illegal) people to work in the U.S. What is the advantage to having a degree? They still can't work in the U.S. legally. Or does having a degree somehow make it OK to steal someone's social security number?