i love the jazz, but reading an article about a guy having a tough time waiting
six days to find out if he'll have that much money from one employer or another
really irks me. especially when there are so many who have been waiting months
or years to find out if there will ever be a stable income again to just pay the
rent and put food on the table. i tell ya, if im ever at a point where a
company offers me $500,000 a year, i'd move whereever they wanted me to. so
it's tough to really feel sorry for millsap. but, at the same time, we fans are
the ones that keep giving them jobs, because apparently we're willing to pay an
individual that much money to entertain us. if the fans ever up and quit our
jobs of watching and paying for these guys, they'd be on the streets.
therefore, do i have a right to complain about millsap's agony while im still a
jazz fan and helping pay him? tough question...
34 million. Jazz fans keep paying and the players laugh all the way to the
bank.There should be a rule that you have to be able to speak a
clear and concise sentance before you can make a million dollars.
I really like Millsap. But, I wonder if he isn't being mislead by all the family
riding on his coatails. I guess its okay if he wants to bring in the money and
the family, they stay loving.
I for one am glad however, whyever or any ever Milsap came to stay in Utah with
money and that's the bottom line. He's a great player, better than Boozer in
defense. He's an asset to the Utah Jazz.GO JAZZ!!!!!
@miles what? What's wrong, you can't accept the fact that CJ is undervalued at
3.7? Cheap for a starter in the NBA. How much do you think Brewer and Korver
are worth in the open market? With your train of thought, Korver is worth 2
million and Brewer is worth 1 million.
such a good deal in terms of contract. The NBA allowed the Jazz, even though
they paid the up front money, to count his salary averaged over the 4 years. So,
against the cap, Milsap is 8 million per. Still, he's a great play.
Glad to have him back.
Who is Common ManFirst off Millsap is not overpaid. He is under
paid. Millsap has had a higher AFG% than Boozer and a Higher PPS. He Also had
a Higher PER than Boozer, he is younger and his contract is much cheaper. Any
statistical analysis - Millsap was a better player than Boozer. The only stat
that Boozer is better than Millsap is rebounding and using an offensive
possession. Using an offensive possession is not a skill, using an offensive
possession successfully is a skill and Millsap is better than Boozer at that.
This season the Jazz are going to start tracking defensive stats.
They are going to re-watch every play and mark if the player either plays
perfect or imperfect. Apparently when every player on the court plays a has a
perfect defense play the opponent only scores 24 percent of their possessions.
After a month when the Jazz stats show Millsap is a better defensive player than
Boozer Millsap will be getting more minutes The Jazz will probably start
Boozer to get his value up so the Jazz can trade him.
hey Miles fan... first off your point about boozer makes no sense, you said
"when boozer is healthy" is the same as "when pigs fly" 2nd that is great that
CJ plays as many minutes as Milsap, but what is his production like. Milsap
contributes more in 5 minutes of play than CJ does in 30 minutes of waiting
behind the 3 pt line to miss another shot and playing lack luster defense!
Reality Check:This is the same bunch of softies we had in here last
year. The only differences is the toughest one of the whole bunch is gone.
(Harpring) Then the payroll went way up. Thats the stinging truth.
For his production (and by NBA standards), Millsap has a fair deal at $8M/per.
He's not an all-star, but he's already a great 6th man, and would - if not for
the presence of Boozer - be a decent starter.As a starter, I think
he'd average around 16/10. Before the knee injury last season, he had that
impressive streak of double-doubles as a starter. For those
believing he's WAY overpaid, I suggest looking at the salaries of other starting
PF's in the league. Exclude the superstars like Garnett, Duncan and Bosh and
wannabe-be stars like Boozer. And exclude the guys on rookie contracts. Here's some of the comparable PF's to Millsap and what they make:Josh Smith (Atl) $11.5MBoris Diaw (Cha) $9.0MTroy Murphy
(Ind) $11.0MKenyon Martin (Den) $15.1MDavid West (NO) $9.0And look at these guys:Udonis Haslem (Mia) $7.1MBrian Cardinal
(NY) $6.7MNick Collison (OKC) $6.2M Even at $8M, Millsap seems
like he's a bit undervalued by comparison.
You've got to be kidding me. Athletes are so out of touch with the rest of us.
Millsap calls waiting out 6 whole days to see if he would get $34 million and
have to move or get $34 million and not move. Give me a break!!!! Tough week.
Athletes should be more mindful of the average person before they use words and
phrases that make the rest of us so angry with them. Reminds of Carlos Boozer
crying about how he's struggling in this economy just like the rest of us.
It's not Milsap's fault if you think he's over paid. It's the front office's.
Take your anger out on them.
How can you blame Millsap for the contract. Like it or not, the NBA is a
business. He has worked extremely hard to get where he's at. I have all the
respect in the world for him. He has done a super job of taking care of his
entire family. Not every young man would do what he is doing for his family.
The negative comments on this board surprise me. I can't think of one time when
Millsap has conducted himself in a poor way. Personally I wish the guys like
Paul were all the high salaried guys instead of some of the other players that
are high priced and act like jerks.
funny comma man, CJ is the most overpaid at 3.7? About half of what Millsap is
making and they play about the same amount of minutes. When Boozer is healthy,
CJ plays more minutes than Paul. CJ is the steal of the century. Now Harpring
and Korver are way overpaid. If Millsap is worth 8 million then
Boozer is worth 12 million.
How exactly is his contract a big mistake or how is he overpaid? Do you guys
even know the parameters of the contract? Portland front loaded for 10 mil. That
makes this year and this year only for it to be a problem for the Jazz, at least
you know we will be there for 82 games instead of in a suit behind the bench.
The remaining years on the contract are very reasonable and work out well for
the Jazz in the future.
People forget that the contract is front loaded, its like giving him a signing
bonus. After the first year he is only going to be making around 5 million a
year--if you read the contract deal. That is a great steal for lasting through
one season of high expenses. That leaves more room to possibly sign another
starter. Look at the bigger picture, the contract is very much worth it.
you think milsap is over paid? they are all over paid but harpering at 5 mil
kerlinko is what 16 boz 12 . if boz worth 12 i know milsap is worth 8. if i had
to pay either boz or milsap 12 mil i know who that would be.he got about what he
is worth at 8 boz is way over paid kerlinko over paid. no one in portland
thought he was over paid. read all the blogs when it was going down not one
negetive comment hard to belive. they were all excited hoping to get him. and
look who they already have.then i read all the utah blogs almost every blog said
he is not worth it let him go. utah would be a crap team without milsap no one
outside of utah would wath them without milsap and harpering were is the hustle
and def. you never know what you have untill its gone.
7 mil a year nowdays for someone that plays more than 50% of the minutes per
game and is a big contributor nowdays in the NBA is not overpaid. Just look at
the salaries in this league, and even with the Jazz. How about A.k., Boozer,
Memo, even D-Will, and last but not least C.J. Miles. What is C.J. doing to
collect 3.7mil per? You had all better appreciate what he has done for
nothing(peanuts) in this league, and will contiue doing.
A ringing endorsement from williams, that's all I needed to hear to be glad the
jazz resigned him. I'm not sure if he can handle the scoring load that boozer
can, he's athletic enough that if he continues to work he'll only get better.
However, williams seems to think millsap can, and williams knows alot more than
i do, i'm pretty sure about that, positive.
I like Millsap as much as the next guy, but this contract was a big mistake.
Mark my words. This ones going to come back to bit them.
Overpaid Millsap has a LOT to prove. As of right now, he is easily top 10 in
over paid players in the NBA... way over paid.I use to be a very big
Millsap fan... he was the blue collar work horse that didn't seem to want the
glamor or attention. He just flat out worked he butt off! That was until this
off season and what happened with the contract, what his Uncle/Agent was saying
and just how everything went down. Millsap sold himself down a
river of high expectations. He has a TON to prove and until he does he is just
another two faced NBA player that is over paid now.
over paid to keep Millsap but he seems to be working hard at getting better. His
shot has improved. He appears quicker. If he can get some of Boozer's moves and
draw the double team he will be a steal. If he becomes a pale
imitation of King James at SF he might be one of the best deals in the NBA.Millsap is the type of player you can build around. He is one part of
The "longest six days of his life" would have been before Portland made him the
offer, not after.I'm sure it was a little nerve-racking to wait and
wait for Utah to match, but he knew as well as we did that they would. But at
that point, he gets paid either way.
Heaven help me when I have to spend a week worrying if I will have to move
because someone will pay me 34 million.