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BYU football: Hall is having fine season, despite interceptions
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Hall is a Winner | 2:37 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Don't worry about stats, just keep winning. 26-6 as a starter is the most
important stat of all.
Mizzou Blue | 5:50 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
When I criticize Hall for interceptions, it's because he throws them in
critical games, i.e., FSU, Utah, etc. Yes, his stats make him sound like
he's equal to or better than Detmer & other QBs from BYU, but until he
can be consistent with his throws against tough opponents who pressure him, then
he'll continue to face this type of criticism. I'm pulling for Max to
finish the season the way he played last night. We need this type of performance
from him every week!
In Before the Ute Trolls | 6:25 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
post comments about how Hall played poorly because he didn't go 27 of 27 in
his passing, and how Bronco should bench him in favor of Riley Nelson.
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Harold | 7:02 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Hall does fine against weak competition.
Against good teams... not so much...
Against good teams... not so much...
trueblue | 7:18 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Best game I ever seen Max Hall play. That was awesome. The kid threw almost
every ball right on the money. I don't realy care if it was UNLV, Max and
the cougars played "GREAT"
Again | 7:44 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Quit apogizing for Max's shortcomings.
Max folds in big games.
This was not a big game.
Max builds gaudy numbers against D-II level competition (Tulane, USU, UNLV), while folding and providing sub-par performances against real teams.
Why the constant need to apologize for his shortcomings?
If Max were better at passing then they wouldn't need to depend on the backs to score the TD's. Mendenhall & Anae know Max gets in trouble under pressure (for example, in the red zone) and thus choose to run for TD's vs. having Max throw yet another red zone INT.
That is good coaching. Know what the limitations of your players are and play to their strengths and avoid their weaknesses. Thus the choice to run for TD's rather than risk the red zone INT.
Max folds in big games.
This was not a big game.
Max builds gaudy numbers against D-II level competition (Tulane, USU, UNLV), while folding and providing sub-par performances against real teams.
Why the constant need to apologize for his shortcomings?
If Max were better at passing then they wouldn't need to depend on the backs to score the TD's. Mendenhall & Anae know Max gets in trouble under pressure (for example, in the red zone) and thus choose to run for TD's vs. having Max throw yet another red zone INT.
That is good coaching. Know what the limitations of your players are and play to their strengths and avoid their weaknesses. Thus the choice to run for TD's rather than risk the red zone INT.
Apologies | 7:49 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Dick, I thought we would make through an entire season without apologies from
you about some aspect of the Cougars. Alas not to be. As with most BYU
quarterbacks Hall is good, amasses glowing statistics based on a scheme designed
for him. In last nights game we finally saw the real potential of this team,
run the ball first and second and pass third. Great teams establish the run
first, that was finally on display last night. Unfortunately against a average
or better defense, BYU will default to the pass and go away from the talent they
have a back as their primary weapon. And it probably won't be necessary to
do so. Dick your great at selectively using statistics to tell a story, but to
chase Mendenhall's dream of being "elite" it will take more than
statistics or rationalization. It will take consistent wins against very high
caliber opponents which is something BYU must first accomplish. That plus a
little "Magic" and perhaps someday Coach Mendenhall can stop talking
the talk and actually walk the walk. Because after all Magic Happens!
JD | 8:03 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
I don't think the ratio is all that misleading. Mr. Harmon brings up the
possibility of TD passes as an example. I think it is the example that is
misleading. You could just as easily discuss scenarios where the potential TD
pass led to another interception, and say that Hall is even more mediocre than
the numbers show.
In short, I do think Hall is a decent quarterback. I do not, however, think that he is any better than his numbers at this point. I am inclined to agree with the first post: wins are more important than other stats.
In short, I do think Hall is a decent quarterback. I do not, however, think that he is any better than his numbers at this point. I am inclined to agree with the first post: wins are more important than other stats.
Interception King | 8:04 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
As usual, he's throwing all sorts of picks. MH is a safties dream.
I can't wait to see what Robert Johnson has in store for him come Nov. 28. I bet he gets some more unsportsman like conducts after getting picked over and over again by RJ and the swarming Ute defense.
I can't wait to see what Robert Johnson has in store for him come Nov. 28. I bet he gets some more unsportsman like conducts after getting picked over and over again by RJ and the swarming Ute defense.
Anonymous | 8:18 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
As usual, Harmon's analysis is spot-on and will be derided by many as
homer-ism.
Max is an aggressive quarterback. That is why he is able to wait until the last second with a defensive player bearing down on him to deliver the ball just before getting crushed.
BYU fans were gushing over that his first year as a starter, as it showed so much more poise than we had seen in similar situations from John Beck. The only knock then was that the tendency to hold onto the ball so long was leading to a lot of fumbles and could lead to a hurt quarterback.
The hurt happened against WYO that year. Max has fixed a lot of the 'getting drilled in the pocket and losing the ball' problem, but his aggressiveness that is such a strength in some ways also leads to picks.
I'll take the wins and let the stats fall where they may. It will lead to some ugly losses (TCU, UofU last year) but also some beautiful wins (UCLA last year, OU this year).
Don't even try to pin FSU on the offense. Defensive stops were all we neeeded.
Max is an aggressive quarterback. That is why he is able to wait until the last second with a defensive player bearing down on him to deliver the ball just before getting crushed.
BYU fans were gushing over that his first year as a starter, as it showed so much more poise than we had seen in similar situations from John Beck. The only knock then was that the tendency to hold onto the ball so long was leading to a lot of fumbles and could lead to a hurt quarterback.
The hurt happened against WYO that year. Max has fixed a lot of the 'getting drilled in the pocket and losing the ball' problem, but his aggressiveness that is such a strength in some ways also leads to picks.
I'll take the wins and let the stats fall where they may. It will lead to some ugly losses (TCU, UofU last year) but also some beautiful wins (UCLA last year, OU this year).
Don't even try to pin FSU on the offense. Defensive stops were all we neeeded.
UteFan | 8:40 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
I agree, Hall is a Whiner.
Hall is having an ok season. 10 interceptions is not a fine season. When you have a weak schedule and play teams like UNLV you can get away with it. Wait till you play good teams like TCU, Wyoming, Air Force and Awesome teams like the Mighty Utes. You will get clobbered. And max will throw 5 picks. how can you eve feel good about yourself after a weak win against a weak team like UNLV. Utes had a great win against a much better Colorado st.
Hall is having an ok season. 10 interceptions is not a fine season. When you have a weak schedule and play teams like UNLV you can get away with it. Wait till you play good teams like TCU, Wyoming, Air Force and Awesome teams like the Mighty Utes. You will get clobbered. And max will throw 5 picks. how can you eve feel good about yourself after a weak win against a weak team like UNLV. Utes had a great win against a much better Colorado st.
C'mon Dick | 8:42 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Hall is a 10, as in 10 interceptions! Take off your blue shades and get real.
What a homer!
Bottom Line | 8:48 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Hall is better than most including Omar Clayton and anybody else currently in
the MTN WEST. UNLV would love a guy like this. BYU receiver are terrific pass
catchers. However, when I read an article like this I have to wonder why
everyone affiliated with BYU is trying to sell me on how good Hall is.
Anonymous | 9:11 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
I for one am GLAD Hall is a Cougar! I'll take his record any day.
J. Robert Walton | 9:14 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
hall is a good qb but NOT a great QB at least not yet. if he can beat TCU and
Utah and win their MAACO Vegas bowl game against the #6 PAC-10 team this year to
go undefeated the rest of the year then maybe. do not even mention him in the
same sentence as Detmer. Detmer was a one of a kind qb so far. only McMahon was
comparable. even Steve Young had to run to try to be on even keel with McMahon
or Detmer. Hall is no Detmer. he may be closer to a Sarkisian and more like a
Walsh if you are ranking the qbs at byu. the system makes Hall what he is. as
long as he has no pressure on him and he is not forced to make interceptions and
fumbles he is okay. but when TCU and Utah bring the pressure then we'll
see....
Revisionist History | 9:45 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Lots of BYU greats put up real stinkers in big games. Hall is certainly guilty
of trying to make too much out of nothing in big games, but so were a lot of
other great BYU quarterbacks. Just look at BYU's record in bowl games.
Duckhunter37 | 9:48 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Of course Hall is a good qb and of course the calls to bench him etc are silly
but he deserves the criticism for his interceptions/turnovers and people are
justified in worrying he will cough it up 6 times in an important game, he has
done it before, multiple times.
Why do all the media types feel the need to call out the fans that are simply expressing a legitimate concern? The fact is the guy is a turnover machine and he turns it over the most in big games. It's a legit concern.
Also Dick Harmons td to int ration rational is as skewed as he claims but in the opposite direction. Easily we can see that he had thrown 10 picks in 5 games, that is still 10 picks regardless of whether he had thrown 11 td's or 30 td's. Either way it is alot of picks.
Why do all the media types feel the need to call out the fans that are simply expressing a legitimate concern? The fact is the guy is a turnover machine and he turns it over the most in big games. It's a legit concern.
Also Dick Harmons td to int ration rational is as skewed as he claims but in the opposite direction. Easily we can see that he had thrown 10 picks in 5 games, that is still 10 picks regardless of whether he had thrown 11 td's or 30 td's. Either way it is alot of picks.
Ron | 10:00 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Harold, Oklahoma was weak competition.
Can't get around it | 10:07 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
He still lost big time to Florida State.
Hall plays awesome | 10:08 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
when he is comfy in the pocket and no pressure.
Re: Again | 10:11 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
"Max folds in big games"
...like against #3 Oklahoma?
Hey, when he is done, he will be 2-1 in bowl games, 2-1 against Utah, 2-1 against TCU and the winningest Y quarterback of all-time with over 30 wins.
...like against #3 Oklahoma?
Hey, when he is done, he will be 2-1 in bowl games, 2-1 against Utah, 2-1 against TCU and the winningest Y quarterback of all-time with over 30 wins.
Max is good | 10:17 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Max is a good QB. He's doing great.
In fact, it's cool to have 4 or 5 QB's in the system that are all better than anything they have at Utah or most of the other schools. I think that's why Max and the others receive so much venom from them.
Keep up those last minute JC transfers Utes!
In fact, it's cool to have 4 or 5 QB's in the system that are all better than anything they have at Utah or most of the other schools. I think that's why Max and the others receive so much venom from them.
Keep up those last minute JC transfers Utes!
You guys are hacks!! | 10:43 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
If I had to guess not one of you goofballs has ever played a down of football in
your life. Hall played great against OU. Hall is 26-6 as a starter. His
passing efficiency is 162.6 for crying out loud.
Go back to flipping burgers or scrolling the Internet for your next job. Max Hall will be on an NFL roster next year while you guys are pumping his gas. Next topic?.....
Go back to flipping burgers or scrolling the Internet for your next job. Max Hall will be on an NFL roster next year while you guys are pumping his gas. Next topic?.....
One who knows. | 10:44 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Some of these comments display a total lack of knowledge of the game and not
much common logic. Of course, one will not have the same numbers against a great
team as he would a lesser team. Of course, there will be interceptions when the
offense requires such precisioned timing between the qb and the receivers and
especially with new receivers as the case with BYU this year.
Just look at the many absolutely fabulous plays, the precision throws that Hall makes game after game. He is one of the best qbs in the nation and that BYU has ever had.
Just look at the many absolutely fabulous plays, the precision throws that Hall makes game after game. He is one of the best qbs in the nation and that BYU has ever had.
I see your point but... | 10:55 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
As a BYU fan I am concerned by the number of picks he throws. Ten picks is
unacceptable period. It means he is forcing too many passes and making bad
decisions. Unfortunately it happens more often than not in big games. I was
glad to see some public comments by Bronco this last week about Max. I'm
sure Bronco has talked to him about it, but making it public makes it known it
is a big deal. He needs to be held accountable for his play.
I was glad to see 0 int against UNLV. Hopefully that continues.
GO COUGS!!
I was glad to see 0 int against UNLV. Hopefully that continues.
GO COUGS!!
Best QB in the MWC | 11:00 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Yes, Max certainly folded against Oklahoma with that 16-play, 78-yard drive, on
which BYU converted three 3rd downs and one fourth-and-4 culminating in a 7-yard
touchdown to a wide-open McKay Jacobson in the back of the end zone with 3:03
left in the fourth to put BYU ahead for good!
And who could forget how Max folded on 4 and 18th!
Max is 26-6 as a starter for BYU and is currently 6th in the NCAA with a 162.57 passing efficiency rating; not bad for a guy who "can't throw"!
And Cain. Well, he's rated below Tulane's QB, you know that team that is no better than a "Division III" team according to some Utah fans, and sandwiched between UNLV's QB and CSU's QB.
44 Joe Kemp, Tulane 138.45
46 Omar Clayton, UNLV 137.41
48 Terrance Cain, Utah 136.54
49 Grant Stucker, CSU 135.49
BYU's backup, Riley Jensen, is better than Cain and the Cougars will have 3 or 4 QB's next season who will be better than Cain.
Can't wait until November 28th!
And who could forget how Max folded on 4 and 18th!
Max is 26-6 as a starter for BYU and is currently 6th in the NCAA with a 162.57 passing efficiency rating; not bad for a guy who "can't throw"!
And Cain. Well, he's rated below Tulane's QB, you know that team that is no better than a "Division III" team according to some Utah fans, and sandwiched between UNLV's QB and CSU's QB.
44 Joe Kemp, Tulane 138.45
46 Omar Clayton, UNLV 137.41
48 Terrance Cain, Utah 136.54
49 Grant Stucker, CSU 135.49
BYU's backup, Riley Jensen, is better than Cain and the Cougars will have 3 or 4 QB's next season who will be better than Cain.
Can't wait until November 28th!
MAXimum effort | 11:36 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Even with his 10 interceptions, Max still has a 162.57 passing efficiency
rating, 6th in the NCAA.
If Max had had only 5 interceptions, he'd currently have a 168.13 rating, 3rd in the NCAA, ahead of Tim Tebow at 165.91. Tebow has only had 2 interceptions all season, and yet his passing efficiency rating is less than 3 1/2 points ahead of Max.
You can slam Max all you want about his interceptions, but, bottom line, he's having a GREAT season both statistically and in leading BYU to a 5-1, Top 20 ranking at the midway point of the season. Just about where most BYU fans expected the Cougars to be at this point before the season started.
If Max had had only 5 interceptions, he'd currently have a 168.13 rating, 3rd in the NCAA, ahead of Tim Tebow at 165.91. Tebow has only had 2 interceptions all season, and yet his passing efficiency rating is less than 3 1/2 points ahead of Max.
You can slam Max all you want about his interceptions, but, bottom line, he's having a GREAT season both statistically and in leading BYU to a 5-1, Top 20 ranking at the midway point of the season. Just about where most BYU fans expected the Cougars to be at this point before the season started.
MWC King | 11:55 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
TBD, but Max and BYU are beginning to look like a championship team.
Re: Interception King | 12:31 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Robert Johnson won't have a chance to intercept Hall because Harvey Unga is
going to run him over and injure him out of the game.
Re: Max is good | 12:33 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Yes, Max is great. Just look at those 10 interceptions. Just look at those
losses against TCU, Arizona, Utah, Florida State, etc. As far as all of those
great QB's waiting at BYU, I'll take Terrence Cain or Andy Dalton over
any QB BYU has, including Hall. As far as the venom you refer to, just read the
article on the Utes. It contains 3/4 posts from pro-BYU, anti-Utes fans. And
I'm not sure what you mean by the last-minute JC transfers. BYU has as
many JC transfers as any other team in the conference. Check your facts, and
hold your arrogance, if it's possible.
Ute Fans | 12:49 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
It would be nice to have a meaningful conversation with a Ute fan on one of
these blogs. I have several friends who are Ute fans and we have excellent
conversations about both BYU and Utah. Yet on these blogs, the worst of the
worst Ute fans are all that seem to post.
Please represent your university and fan base with some class.
Please represent your university and fan base with some class.
Harmon, don't go there | 1:50 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
"Both of those short TD runs could have been Hall passes for touchdowns,
increasing his ratio." - D Harmon
Dick, we're supposed to leave the "if only" and "coulda shoulda woulda" stuff to the utah fans. That's their territory and they excel at it. Or are you going to start writing for the u?
Dick, we're supposed to leave the "if only" and "coulda shoulda woulda" stuff to the utah fans. That's their territory and they excel at it. Or are you going to start writing for the u?
NorCalBlue | 1:55 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
I love how those with red tinted glasses can't see reality.
Max Hallis bar noe the best QB in the MWC. Show me another with 26 wins, show me!
I'd rather not have any interceptions in a game - it matters little if he leads the team to victory!
Last time I checked interceptions are not listed in the win loss column. Until the UNLV game what has been missing is our D leading in interceptions for that particular game.
Perhaps when the Utes can find a QB other than a JC transfer they can mount 26 wins+.
Ute fans red with envy might try Yellow Tinted glasses as they are good blue blockers and might lessen their Blood Pressure.
By the time the Utes win a National Championship, the Cougars will have won a BCS bowl game bigger than the Sugar Bowl! Then we can all put this behind us and just enjoy good college football.
Max Hallis bar noe the best QB in the MWC. Show me another with 26 wins, show me!
I'd rather not have any interceptions in a game - it matters little if he leads the team to victory!
Last time I checked interceptions are not listed in the win loss column. Until the UNLV game what has been missing is our D leading in interceptions for that particular game.
Perhaps when the Utes can find a QB other than a JC transfer they can mount 26 wins+.
Ute fans red with envy might try Yellow Tinted glasses as they are good blue blockers and might lessen their Blood Pressure.
By the time the Utes win a National Championship, the Cougars will have won a BCS bowl game bigger than the Sugar Bowl! Then we can all put this behind us and just enjoy good college football.
Digbads | 2:02 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
I think that BYU's drive in the final minutes against Oklahoma was one of
the most impressive drives I've seen in years of watching college
football.
He is a great quarterback and will receive many post season honors from those who really understand football.
With the wrong coach--BYU could have been in UNLV's predicament this year.
I'm so glad to have Coach Mendenhall leading the Cougs.
He is a great quarterback and will receive many post season honors from those who really understand football.
With the wrong coach--BYU could have been in UNLV's predicament this year.
I'm so glad to have Coach Mendenhall leading the Cougs.
Choke Artist | 2:08 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
As long as Maxie will throw 3, 4 interceptions to Utah, I will be happy!
Maxie = one of the best BYU choke artists ever.
Chloe Judkins | 2:37 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
And I quote...
"In Saturday's game, Unga had three touchdown runs, two of the long variety – and the third an easy walk from the 1...
Both of those short TD runs could have been Hall passes for touchdowns, increasing his ratio. Thus, that knock on him could be viewed to be bogus without perspective."
Hey Dick,
Great "perspective." With such logic, couldn't every running TD of the season been a Hall TD pass? I mean, the running backs could have just decided to stop at the one-yard-line so Hall could pass for a TD instead, and thus boost his TD:INT ratio. Isn't that what you're saying?
Now that's some awesome journalistic "perspective" that is clearly not "bogus." Your rationale is astounding.
"In Saturday's game, Unga had three touchdown runs, two of the long variety – and the third an easy walk from the 1...
Both of those short TD runs could have been Hall passes for touchdowns, increasing his ratio. Thus, that knock on him could be viewed to be bogus without perspective."
Hey Dick,
Great "perspective." With such logic, couldn't every running TD of the season been a Hall TD pass? I mean, the running backs could have just decided to stop at the one-yard-line so Hall could pass for a TD instead, and thus boost his TD:INT ratio. Isn't that what you're saying?
Now that's some awesome journalistic "perspective" that is clearly not "bogus." Your rationale is astounding.
Dennis | 2:44 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Goodness -- Most of you couldn't even throw the ball and you have the nerve
to critize. Be civil in your evaluations and take a course Football 101 or take
a look at the play book and then you'll know how to play the game.
No Doubt | 2:55 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
There is no doubt that Hall is better than Cain! But Hall is not better than
Riley Nelson....NO WAY!
The stats do not tell the real story....If you read the stats Hall is better than Detmer, McMahon, and Young.....But hall fold like a lawn chair when he is faced with tough competition.....he cost us the game against FSU.....he went three and out in critical situations...and threw ints including one for pick 6 to a true freshman FSU DB!
Enjoy your days Hall, but as soon as you lose to TCU, Riley takes over......or at least he should and would if BYU has a Real Coach!
The stats do not tell the real story....If you read the stats Hall is better than Detmer, McMahon, and Young.....But hall fold like a lawn chair when he is faced with tough competition.....he cost us the game against FSU.....he went three and out in critical situations...and threw ints including one for pick 6 to a true freshman FSU DB!
Enjoy your days Hall, but as soon as you lose to TCU, Riley takes over......or at least he should and would if BYU has a Real Coach!
re: Choke Artist | 3:15 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
4th and 18! choke on that!
Max will be 2-1 versus Utah on November 28th.
Max will be 2-1 versus Utah on November 28th.
re: re: Max is good | 3:40 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
"Yes, Max is great. Just look at those 10 interceptions. Just look at those
losses against TCU, Arizona, Utah, Florida State, etc."
I guess you don't know how to use etc. but in common usage it means there's more than you just revealed, ie:there are more losses than you just mentioned, but wait, those were all the losses they had since September 2007. Before you start criticizing BYU try beating opponents like CSU by more than a touchdown.
See ya November 28th.
I guess you don't know how to use etc. but in common usage it means there's more than you just revealed, ie:there are more losses than you just mentioned, but wait, those were all the losses they had since September 2007. Before you start criticizing BYU try beating opponents like CSU by more than a touchdown.
See ya November 28th.
Cougar Realist | 4:15 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
I like Max, but I will admit that i'm a bit on the edge of my seat every
throw that goes farther than about 15 yards. I never felt that with John Beck.
That guy had a cross hair. Either way, Max has proven himself in smaller games
and a few big ones as well. If he stops forcing it, Coug's will be the team
they need to be. I really wish Mendenhal would change the predictable dynamic of
the team and establish the run a bit more. Let's get a bit more
unpredictable and use all of our weapons.
My other criticism is for the BYU fans as a whole. I hope we can all be real loud and supportive even when we're behind in the score. They already have enough opponents on the field, they don't need anymore in the stands than they already have. I think we'll be fine this season. And hopefully we'll just get better.
My other criticism is for the BYU fans as a whole. I hope we can all be real loud and supportive even when we're behind in the score. They already have enough opponents on the field, they don't need anymore in the stands than they already have. I think we'll be fine this season. And hopefully we'll just get better.
re: re: re: Max is good | 4:43 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Until you have scoreboard over Utah, hold off on the trash talk because
that's all it is. . . . 48 / 24 - five picks and a fumble.
UteFan | 5:19 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
I call on Bronco to bench max and his 10 interceptions in 5 games and bring in
the utah st dropout nelson. maybe he could be slightly better. Neither compare
to Cain, the most dominate QB in the MWC. Cain has taken over and lead his team
to big time wins over top teams, not lowsy wins over UNLV and Tulane. Cain is
getting better each game and should be in the Heisman hunt by the end of the
year when Utah dominates byu.
Dennis | 5:21 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Sure he has.
NOT!
NOT!
Re; Ron | 10:00 a.m. | 5:26 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Hall (a senior QB) scored only 14 points against OK. That will only win games
against a 2nd string QB.
Re: Choke Artist | 3:15 p.m. | 5:33 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Hmm...
In the end, Maxie will have:
---> 1-2 record vs mighty Utah
---> over 12 (nice) interceptions to Utah defense
---> 2-2 in Las Vegas (Kooger) Bowl games
---> will never know what BCS is about (but he knows what it is to take the C off this word)
Not too bad off a career for a Kooger QB.
In the end, Maxie will have:
---> 1-2 record vs mighty Utah
---> over 12 (nice) interceptions to Utah defense
---> 2-2 in Las Vegas (Kooger) Bowl games
---> will never know what BCS is about (but he knows what it is to take the C off this word)
Not too bad off a career for a Kooger QB.
Tell me | 5:52 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
about the best qb at the end of the season. It may be Dalton if they go
undefeated. Ute qb only played half the game yesterday. He's a no show
for honors.
South Bend Cougar | 6:35 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Are you taking a page out of the South Bend Tribune's sports writers page
who are pumping Jimmy Clausen for the Heisman? Want to be impressed by stats,
just check out his with wins against 3 BCS conference teams. But wait, which of
those teams are ranked? Oops, NONE. Point, QB's can look terrific against
lesser defenses. Is MH the #1 QB for MWC? Maybe but so what? Not only was the
FSU loss humiliating but the continued losing pattern of FSU means that BYU is a
loser to all of the teams that beat FSU by virtue of thrashing that the Cougs
took on their home turf. The Cougs will get respect in the national polls the
old fashioned way, by earning it with wins against ranked teams, not UNLV......
BYU has crazy loyalty | 7:04 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Bench a guy that throws to the other team. But BYU has weird loyalty to their
players. Msut be all that ridicoulis politics that goes on at a church school
like BYU.
I must have missed it | 7:14 p.m. Oct. 11, 2009
Did the UofU play this past weekend?
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- Study finds autism therapy works 12:35 a.m.
- Boy shot following traffic stop 12:35 a.m.
- Sports on the air 12:24 a.m.
- Herbert builds his team of rivals 12:21 a.m.
- Corroon a step closer to governor 12:21 a.m.
- Monday on TV 12:18 a.m.
- Editorial: East, West and religion 12:17 a.m.
- A deficit commission? 12:17 a.m.
- Hall mouths off about hate of Utah
- BYU is champion of the state
- Cougars beat Utes in overtime
- Credit Coug defense for win
- Marriage definitions vary widely
- Field goals, penalties doomed Utes
- Cougar defense rose to occasion
- Banged up Jazz get best of Blazers
- Jones' joy for life remembered
- Fantasy is reality for BYU professor
- Hall mouths off about hate of Utah
869 - Cougars beat Utes in overtime473
- Max Hall issues apology145
- BYU is champion of the state137
- Man trapped in Nutty Putty cave dies117
- Cave to be sealed with body inside116
- Rivalry Week is highly profane90
- Hall's legacy measured today79
- Hall's pain reflects self-betrayal68
- Utes fall to Seattle U. at home65
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