Comments about ‘A flood of uncertainty: Scofield land dispute locks up people's destiny’

Welcome to big brother's world from the novel 1984 by Orwell. In that novel, government had all the power, The people none. Sounds like that's what going on here. Ask Senator Hatch to help you on this problem. That's why you keep sending him to the senate.

The Founding Fathers didn't trust an all-powerful central government and neither should we. Just in Utah I know of a dozen other stories that would read along the lines as this.

And these are the guys we want handling are health-care? unbelievable.

The public good is the issue not the unpleasant fact of the government having to do the work of the people. Some people would like to have no law and order at all so they could just do what ever they wish; until someone bigger comes along and then they go running to the government for protection. It is a good government when it serves their interest, it is a bad government when it serves the public interest.

In case you've ever really wondered, the Bureau of Land Management has nothing, not one thing to do with health care-----
It saddens me to think that here in Utah we have people that are so limited in the scope of governmental knowledge that a statement like that would even be made.

You have to be pretty stupid to not understand the connection between the BLM and what he was saying about Obamacare... it is the illrun government and bureacrats that have NO CARE for the private citizen. (slaves to our government) Grow up and wake up.. We are in a bad situation!

Curious how the BLM does nothing to assert their ownership for 60+ years, then when oil companies start striking oil and gas in the vicinity, suddenly they start bullying people around.

This is similar to what the Forest Service is doing in Cardiff Fork, except that the law is against them. The Forest Service is attempting to steal public roads all over, and Cardiff Fork is one of only a few areas standing up to them. Centralized government is bad.

The government makes a mistake then wants to correct it by treating its citizens horribly. Way to go. No business could survive doing this but our government can do it because well......its the federal government.

This is so reminiscent of the innumerable examples of inept and/or shoddy treatment by the Federal government of the native Americans (broken treaties, mismanaged royalty monies for mineral rights and very similar incompetent land management, etc.), it simply adds to my complete distrust in their ability to handle something as unimaginably complex and critically important as the health-care industry.

When the Federal government is half the size it is now and twice as competent, THEN, and only then, will I consider entrusting them with the kind of management the Obama minions are clamoring for now.

Brad has made an interesting point here. I think we should pay attention.

The government, by definition, just doesn't do things well. I wonder if anyone can name anything the government has ever done more efficiently than the private sector. (Please don't cite the military. That's a completely seperate situation.)

The fact is, the government should only be in the business of producing things that are necessary to the public interest but that the private sector does not produce--roads, parks, defense, etc. Anything the private sector produces on it's own should be off limits to the government. The private sector produces lots of health care...the government should keeps it paws off. It's only because of government interference that health care has become less efficient than it should be.

Let this story be a cautionary tale. KEEP GOVERNMENT AS SMALL AND AS UNINTRUSIVE AS POSSIBLE.

Interesting, isn't it, how you don't read about Bennett being on the side of his constituents. That's because HIS constituents are bankers and financiers who wallow in bonuses.

advocating for 'small government', read about our first national government, the Articles of Confederation. Good example about how 'limited' government works. Hint: It doesn't. A weak central government always ends up powerless to handle the large problems, especially wars, and the country is overrun and carved up by neighboring powers. See Europe throughout history. Those who do not know or understand history are bound to repeat it.

Not that discussions aren't helpful, but would it not be better to be actively involved as opposed to complaining in a blog? Find out more about what is going on, why, and do our part as citizens to make these things known to those around us, then report the peoples' actual opinions and ideas for solutions to those who are supposed to "represent" the people?

Alan Christensen said 10 years ago to a Carbon County Commissioner in effect: "Once we take this property [meaning the property that was lost this year after a 10 year fight], we are going after everyone all around the reservoir." He also made this same statement to another owner. He later denied making these statements. For 10 years, no one would wake up and listen. Sen. Bennett's office refused to help. The County just sat back and watched. The newspapers were not interested in the story. Now it is all happening and people are afraid. They should be. They should be very afraid. It is positively frightening what the government has gotten away with.

It is even more interesting that within a very few weeks of the Denver decision that the state of Utah told Carbon County of their intent to build cabins on the property lost by the presumed land owners. I didn't know State Government could work so fast unless they had information unbeknownst to the rest of us. BOR used the 'find a friendly judge' tactic and got the landowners off the ground so they could fulfill their promise to the State. What is the State giving them in return? It is also interesting to contact BOR Washington, they are't fully aware of what the Provo office is up to in this action. Sounds like a job for an investigative reporter.

Too bad - after years growing up in Scofield and the mountains being open to just about everyone for outdoor activities, then the "property owners" started to fence and close everything. As a kid, I traversed canyons, mountains, streams in those areas and the change has not been good. Greedy "property owners" acting no differently than the BLM. Shoe is on the other foot. If it were open country for 100+ years and then closed simply because the "property owners" wanted it closed. I really have trouble feeling sorry for them.

Why do landowners fence off property?

Cause the large amt of litter left by thoughtless people. U ever have to pick up a used babydiaper off your property? Broken glass shards?

Cause of property destruction.

Cause landowners get sued over just about anything nowadays.

We fence off property to protect ourselves. To protect ourselves from what TRESPASSERS do to us. Who can blame us? You'd do the same.

We are not looking for people to pity us. We are looking to gain support in a situation of severe injustice, and to help others that may be affected by the precedence our court case may end up setting for landowners nationally.

It's awesome that you got to enjoy the splendor of Scofield; it is something I have LOVED all my life, and something that is now being stripped from me and my entire family (after 59 years).

I don't want YOU to be next. We need awareness, solutions... action.

I've been going to scofield since I was 14 years old. We've been going to scofield since 1969. MY daughter has experienced the same fun I did when I was 14. The memories are priceless. I can't beleive it could be coming to a end. Hopefully we can get some support and come up with some resolution.