Why--Fesenko has an injury--heel I think that has kept him out. That is the
reason he has not played although I wonder if they are not seeing any progress
and would considering waiving him to make a roster spot for several free-agents.
Probably not but the Jazz have done it before; although not with the current
luxary tax implications.Miles is clearly a better athlete than
Korver and Korver so far connects a little bit better on threes. Both give good
effort on D, but the nod goes to Korver on decision making. Korver rarely
misses an assignment or takes a forced shot. CJ can make some bone-head
decisions at times. If he can get the mental game down he will have a very
bright future and will be the player that Jazz brass hoped for when they
matched. Without the improvement in game-smarts he will continue to be a
sometimes-used rotation guy. I like Korver's game and attitude but I would love
to see Miles earn the minutes by helping the team not just having the ability to
JUST PLAY D
isn't Fesenko playing in any of the preseason games???
oops...I meant "Slackathon"
There's no statistical evidence that supports claims that Miles is "wayyyyyy"
better at shooting! Or anything else for that matter.
Somebody besides Miles loves CJ! I like CJ but I do not care for Miles!
miles is a wayyyyyy better shooter than Korver!!!!!,wow man what Jazz games are
you watching,don`t rebounds,assists and defense matter at all ? how about
playing a team game within Sloan`s system? how long have you been a Jazz fan...a
week or so???
Yes if you think about it, C. J. was just coming on before we got Korver. The
Jazz had a 10 game or so winning streak with C.J. getting minutes and doing
well. Then O Conner brought in Korver and everyone thought he was so neat.
C.J.'s playing time and development took a big hit. All while Korver stuggled to
find his shot which is about all his game consists of due to the lack of
mobility and athletisism. Looks to me like we should have stuck with the kid.
This is basketball not a pretty boy contest.
comma man, good to see you stirring it up with the "one trick pony" comment.
Problem is you have used that same post for the past year. Why don't you ask
your mamma to help you type a new post! I am sure she can come to the basement
and bring her laptop.
Trying hard by it's self doesn't make you a N B A player. It takes talent and
athleticism with the effort. The Euro league and the Developmental league are
full of players that try hard. Korver is a mirage that you and Sloan saw.
Nothing more than a mirage.lol.
You missed the point. CJ currently shoots .352 and Korver shoots
.386 for 3pt range..03 difference...Wow...big deal!!So
what if Korver "plays hard every possession on both Defense and Offense". He
plays hard and he stinks at both.I am so tired of watching Korver
clap his hands after his man beats him to the basket for a layup or when he is
slow rotating on defense and provides no help. He is a witness mostly. If that
is your definition of "playing hard" I am not interested.I am not
saying CJ is currently the solution but he sure has ALOT more athletic talent to
begin with. IF CJ can become more consistent then there is not even
a point in this conversation because as mediocre as CJ may be right now, the
rest of he and Korvers stats are essentially a wash/stalemate. So
if you think that CJ stinks then that means, statistically, you think Korver
does too because the past performance of both is terribly mediocre to poor.If CJ can't step up this season then he ought to be relegated to the
bench or the trading block just like Korver.
Anybody who honestly thinks Maynor is going to get minutes this year is crazy!
Unless Price or Williams has a major injury he's not gonna play. He's a rookie
and this is Sloan we're talking about.
Alright Kufos in the starting line up is a stretch now but I see him as a Okur
upgrade. Intact the Jazz over paid for Okur since there honestly is no other
suiters. Okur is a stud though he is very limited. For a center Okur is
limited in defensive intensity, speed, agility, and size. Kufos is not Tim
Duncan but he is not handycapped in those ways.
Miles is right I guess. Boozer has to start because his giant EGO will cause
problems in the locker room. Millsap will be disappointed but he's going to
give full effort no matter what! So as much as I hate it... Boozer shouls
start, Millsap off the bench.A good example of this was Iverson and
Hamilton in Detroit last year. Iverson was a huge baby about starting, as a
result they tried to play 3 guards at once, then they had Hamilton coming off
the bench. The team chemistry was RUINED. I just hope that doesn't happen to
the Jazz this year.
I`ll take KK "the one trick pony" anyday over miles the "no trick pony" Korvers
one trick is to play hard every possession on both Defense and Offense...you
bet.. I`ll take him anyday over the slacker with all "the potential"...when
diaper boy was 18,it was... he`s only 18...only 19...only 20...on and on he`s
now 22 and I hear "he`s only 22...when does he become a player??? at 40???
the conclusion I have come up watching the last 2 games.In my
opinion, including the free agents that may not make this roster and the
returning players, is this Jazz team is the most talented team I have seen since
moving from New Orleans.I am not sold on Matthews he seems streaky
and erratic. AK does not look like bones, and I have a feeling he will have a
major resurgence.You can see Maynor has talent, just erratic
shot and decision making at timesI would like see how much mileage
we can get from him as a #2 guard, but he needs to shoot better
starters1 Price (at least he will push the ball)2 Williams
(let him walk up last and shoot)3 Ak (we all know he should be a 4
but at least here he could touch the ball and pass it to someone who is open)4 Milsap (really too small but with ak and everyone else to pass it to
him he gets easy shots under the basket)5 Koufus (at least he takes
up space and works hard)seriously this team could get out on the
break and run the slash the middle offense that sloan likes they would also play
decent defensemostly I like it because any of the 3 could begin the
offense and Williams could score more yes hes a great point but we need a scorer
if you are not going to put Korver at the 2
Maybe spending the money was worth it and I doubted if he was worth it, but I
always have loved Paul.After seeing him these last 2 games, he rocks
and he is impressing all of us big time.The thing is he looks so
much quicker.I did not know Kyle had a tattooI saw it
for the first time ladies last nightSure it made your day i guess
near his chest area
ESPN Fantasy Projection (last updated: August 28, 2009)2010 Season
OutlookKorver's value would be so much higher if he contributed in just
one more category. But he doesn't, and Ronnie Brewer has the shooting guard
minutes on lockdown. Korver's minutes will decrease, especially if Andrei
Kirilenko posts anything resembling a bounce-back season and/or Carlos Boozer is
on the roster. Don't waste a draft pick on Korver, as there are other 3-point
specialists with higher upside and more chance for increased opportunities. It is not just my opinion. Korver is one dimestional and in that
dimension (3pt shooting) he was very average (59th) last season.
I can't believe all you guys who are so in love with Korver.You
clearly have very little grasp of the game.His 3 pt shooting % is
59th in the league last season.Tell me why a guy like that who can't
do anything else besides shoot FT's above average deserves to be a starter?Ridiculous.Now, I am not arguing on Brewers behalf either.
He can't throw it on the ocean standing on a cruise ship!I'm tire of
these one dimensional players.CJ has the ability to shoot WAAAAAYYY
better than both of them so if he could just learn to be average on defense he
is by far the better candidate at two.Korver is at best a backup
role player IF he improves his 3 pt shooting because it is VERY AVERAGE right
now.Brewer is an athletic defender who does not even have to guarded
outside the paint.Can you say LIABILITIES in the starting lineup?
Either player is unacceptable...if you want to win anything besides regular
season games that is.Brewer was embarrassed in the playoffs and
Korver was no linchpin.
AK is solid at everything, but good at nothing. Without his contract, we'd be
fine financially. Instead, we're going to be way over the luxury this year AND
next. The Cavs have Big Z on the market, and we should try to get in on that. GS
and the Cavs are talking Big Z for Jackson. I say we get in and trade AK to GS,
Jax goes to Cleveland and we get Big Z and expirings.
deron williamsRonnie BrewerCj MilesCarlos BoozerOkur2nd teamMaynorKorverAk/matt/millsapSap/ak/koufusKoufus/fezSitting the benchPrice
El Sol de Baloncesto reported Carlos Boozer is being traded to the Cleveland
Cavaliers. This is newsworthy on all fronts as Carlos preformed a
one-on-one interview with Gabriella Sabado Hernandez prior to Thurdays game in
Espana. Carlos is reported to have said that it is a done deal in
his mind. His family is in the process of moving as he returns back to the
Means nothing. Mathews, just a prospect at this point. Nobody here is seeing
what goes on in practice, keep that in mind when it comes to how people are
doing. I wish AK could play in a different system. I have been somewhat
impressed by Maynor's poise and passing ability. Here is my second unit,
Koufos,Milsap,AK,Korver,Maynor. D-Will,CJ,Brewer,Memo,Booz as the first unit
unless Memo and Booz show that their new defense isn't there. Price should play
the two guard when things aren't going well or you want to go with a smaller
line-up. I think Maynor has shown that he is a better distributer of the ball.
Fess gets the call on the second unit against the bigger centers.
Hey "anonymous",Why do you have to come down on Korver? You say
"dude couldn't guard my grandma one on one"Cut the guy some slack.
Your grandma has a pretty good cross over dribble. It's not his fault he can't
keep up with all that hair in his eyes.He's hot. I'm a dude but I
gotta give the guy the props. He's a looker (in sort of a cro-magnum man kind of
Season is nearly here so now your comments even though rife with ignorance
and misunderstanding can be somewhat relevant.Based upon comments
and preseason we should bench the first string and let the second string and
wannabes lead our team.Did anyone hear the announcer (Chris Webber
who was an allstar) during the game when he said Boozer was better around the
basket with either hand than he had been? Good thing we are planning to unload
him, we do not want superstars on our team. We got Fes and....You
people scare me. When the season begins we will need everyone of our starters
healthy and at full speed. The preseason is for the second string to establish
the pecking order if and only if they make the team but bread and butter players
have been identified by what they have done in seasons past.Korver
can beat my grandma..maybe. Brewer can't shoot as well as her though so we need
help there.Koufous needs to eat some meat, perhaps without cooking
it prior to each game.If they would only let me run things....
Is anyone else getting nervous about The Jazz's TV schedule OR the lack of one
The "real" Real Madrid plays in the Bernabeu. They have 90 thousand watch them.
Lsst night we played an inposter....Millsap looked great, very
quick and explosive. I was happy Maynor came to life offensively. PLayed well
defensively, but REal was too one dimensional with all those long straight away
Korver a starter? Koufus played solid once again? Koufus and Fes as starters?
Bring Eaton back? Korver best shooter on the team? Wes Matthews starting?And you think I am nuts!!Jerry is trying to destroy the
chemistry of the team. If you don't start Boozer, he will cry the rest of the
season and be useless. Stop the drama Jerry and tell Boozer he is the starter
or we can write this season off.
Koufos played solid once again. He is still quite young, but he will be, and if
given playing time, is right now a solid NBA pro. Like his defense. And that
ridiculous OSU coach who said he couldn't play D or was soft. Ridiculous. He is
our best defender. and led the team in rebounds these two preseason games. Wait
til he is given time to play in this offense and his skills get utilized. Great
athlete, runs the floor fantastic, and loves the game.
Let's see they play two games here and you are already deciding who can play and
who can't. Give me a break. Just because some guy was in the dunking contest,
does not mean he can play defense or score from the outside. HOw many times
does a player get to do a slam dunk in a game. That is for the fans.
Jazz should sign travis Hansen to just stand there, quite effective. Go Cougar
I'd venture a guess he's doing much better than you career-wise, big guy.
attention. It's the preseason. That means it is time to see who of the new guys
should make the team, and avoid injuries to your starters. Come on, you guys
can't be real NBA fans. you must just bet your money on the jazz. Pay
Larry Miller was the man! There will never be another LHM! We were very lucky
to have had him in our midst and in our Behive State! Larry H Miller, You Know
Get Eaton Back! We have not had a decent Center since the Big Falla left!
What happened to civility!
Another mediocre year for the Jazz.
Suggest inviting 5 foreign teams to come and play in the summer league. I
really missed it this summer. Last year when they had the Iranian national team
it was fun seeing all the flags wave and national pride. If we had 5 teams it
would be a mad house. The Orlando gig seems like an intersquade scrimage and of
course we could never go Las Vegas after they stole the show. I
would welcome some feedback good or bad on this idea.
Play Millsap at the "3"... dump miles,the clueless worthless slacker
We all have our favorites!!!! Can't wait to see a healthy Korver then we'll see
who deserves the minutes!Korver is the best shooter on the team. If the
Jazz had some plays designed for Korver he would be the high scorer every night!
Thank you re:Jazz Cop for calling out Korver. I'm not a hater and I am female,
but come on Brewer plays so much better.
There you go, former BYU Cougar Travis Hansen playing defense with his hands on
his side. That BYU defense is really paying off.
I like what I see from Millsap. Hopefully Sloan makes the starting PF spot an
open competition. It would be a shame to hand the spot to an "All-star" because
of his "Resume!" It will be interesting to see how Sloan divies out the
minutes when the REAL season starts. I wouldn't worry about the debate too much
in preseason. I'm getting excited for some Jazz basketball though!
Sloan's going to have a tough time making cuts based on today.
Re: WOW! -Lighten up fool! If we didn't have the Jazz to pick on,
what we would do in our spare time?! Of course we know more about basketball
than Sloan and of course my cross over is better than Williams. Just come over
to my Ward and watch me in the over 50 league!!! HA
at Mr. 4:09pmreally? Real Madrid is a good team that plays in the
2nd best league in the WORLD....and the Jazz could've beaten them worse than
they did. Also, Hansen's a solid pro ball player and played a year
in the NBA and has been an all-league player a few times over in Europe....the
Jazz still have a few guys, that even played today, that couldn't get a contract
from Real Madrid....so know before you speak. Its a great league and high level
of basketball....and quite frankly, the only reason it wasn't more competitive
is that Real Madrid has EIGHT new players this year that its trying to get into
It doesn't matter who starts or comes off the bench. If they don't run the
offense and get afteron D and pound the boards, the Jazz are toast. When they do what they are supposed to, they can beat anybody. When they
don't, the can't beat anybody.
I would dare bet that 90% of you critical arm-chair-quarterbacks, have ever worn
a jock. Your trash talking is "old" and should be presented at your homeless
shelters among yourselves instead of this forum. If you don't like our team move
on, the Clippers, Sacramento, Golden State, and Minnesota all are looking for
fans and would welcome all of you with open arms. If that doesn't work for you
try Oklahoma City, Memphis, Atlanta, Miami, New Jersey, Charlotte, Philly, New
York, Indiana, or Milwaukee. Surely you can find a team in all of them that
would satisfy you idiots.
Dear "Real Madrid @4:09":Quit disrespecting my team!! From what I
hear, the Jazz were all toe-tapping in the locker room after the game. Made me
lose my lunch! Boozer blows.
Maybe next time the Jazz play an exhibition game, that just happens to be during
the pre-season, they'll go all out and keep their regular season rotations just
to impress you.
I can't believe someone said he will be a starter. Since when did Sloan start
rookies? (Except for Williams who was an exceptional talent) IF
(and its a big IF) he makes the team, he will spend a lot of time in the
D-league. Just cause he scored 15 points in a preseason game doesn't mean he's
the answer to the Jazz's problems (Last year Ronnie Brewer has like 28 point
night.) There is a reason he went undrafted in a draft class that wasn't seen
as very talented. All that being said, last year Anthony Morrow
went undrafted and then went on to lead the league in 3pt%. But
give me a break, every year there are guys that perform well in preseason and
then amount to nothing. DeShawn Stevenson and Quincy Lewis were both preseason
stars. There was a guy with the last name Hughes who did a lot more than
Matthews ever did and he never made the team.
I'm sorry you guys lost your girlfriends!
Is anyone else not impressed at all by the jazz's 20 point win against Real
Madrid? That is ridiculous, Travis Hansen is one of their better players, that
should show you how weak this team is. We should have won this game by 40 at
least. I know it's preseason, but c'mon jazz
I don't think Korver has shown he belongs as the starter at the 2. He is not
much of an athlete and though he works hard on Defense he can't keep up with
many of the 2 guards in the league. He is a super-sub for sure but we need to
be giving minutes to Brewer and Miles as long as we lack an inside Defensive
preasance. Moving Okur to the bench and Bringing Kufos in as a starter is a
risky move but would allow us to stretch on defense a litte so that Michael
Redd, Kobe Bryant and company don't go off on us for 55 pts. again. A bench of
Maynor, Brewer, Miles, Milsap and Okur would be very impressive.
lead in rebounding again. He is not shooting much or well but that will come
with enough practice and playing time. He is a decent back up C, especially if
he is playing with AK, Boozer/Millsap and a wing that can shoot.The
second team (when DWill is playing PG) may be as strong as the first. The Jazz
are weakest at the 2/3 positions.
NIce work Blauch
In the starting lineup. Dude, are you trolling or just plain nuts?
Millsap and AK play very well together - keep those two together. Boozer and AK
plays really poorly together. I think that the Jazz should have 2
units.Williams, Korver, Brewer, Boozer and OkurPrice, Miles,
AK, Millsap and Koufas. The first unit is the pick and role
offense. You have Okur and Korver spreading the floor and Brewer going back
door. Miles and AK are awful in this offense. The Second unit is a
better defensive unit. I runs the motion offense - or they run plays thru AK.
This is pretty much a fast break team or you give it to AK and he creates for
other on the team. The Jazz should be running about 20 plays a game thru AK.
He gets to the line at such a high percentage and his point per shot is the
highest on the team. Williams, Brewer and Okur can ll play with
this unit. Boozer and Korver cannot. Boozer is such a defensive liability if
you do not give him the ball at a high rate he shouldn't be on the court. The only reason to start Boozer is to get his value up to trade him
Anyone who thinks Korver is the a starter knows absolutely nothing about
basketball.....dude couldn't guard my grandma one on one.
Looks like the Jazz are going to have a great year. Those Spaniards really know
how to dribble.
BECAUSE ITS THE PRESEASON!!!
Sap! is Hap'nin broytha!
It's preseason. They are playing different players in lineups to see how they
matchup and play in those groups.Will be fun to see the numbers
Boozer puts up compared to Millsap. If there is a true competition going on,
slight edge to Millsap at this point.
Korver is hurt first of all. And second, the bench needs some veterans to hold
things together. Who would be on your bench? assuming you start the five you
mentioned. AK has already proven he can be more satisfied coming off the bench.
He doesn't have to take scoring away from Boozer, Dwill and Memo...and he can
be "the Man" while he's in...maybe even controlling the ball from time to time.
I think Wes Matthews will make the team, and be a starter in place
of CJ. If he and Ron Dupree both make the team, we just got a whole lot tougher
on both ends (and much more athletic). Both those guys are big time dunkers.
Matthews was in the 2009 NCAA dunk contest, and Dupree has a knack for liking to
dunk on people. They are both perfect Jazzmen (tough, humble, and winners).
If we can get Fezenko to get some minutes and play to the level of
Ostertag (a pretty low bar I think all would agree)...we could be pretty darn
good this year.
The Jazz should start Williams, Korver, Kirilenko, Boozer and Kufos. This would
put a good Defender in Kufos near the Basket and leave the outside shooting to
the guards. The second team would be Maynor, Brewer,Miles, Milsap and Okur.
This way each team would have one interior defender and one guy who can't shoot.
Nice evan distribution!
Korver? You must be joking.Korever is a one trick pony that can't
perform its trick.Korver was ranked 59th in 3pt shooting for the
whole league last season.59th!! Wow, I bet players/teams quake in
their boots when we put that "threat" on the floor. In reality they are
probably thrilled.To give you a reference, our 6'11" Center pokey
Center shot over 200 threes last season.Okur was ranked #6 in the
NBA!!To compound the problem Korver only makes shots when the Jazz
are already winning. He always misses when there is pressure or we are
behind.I can't wait till that phony is gone. Nice guy but his value
is based on his looks and female fan reaction because he is a liability on the
cause you have to have a bench! you start all your best players you won't have
anyone to sustain that lead when the starters are out. Sure you have milsap but
thats it. you need more then that
I don't understand why the best team isn't starting, dwill korver ak boozer and