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Idaho hunter makes record the books
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moose on the loose | 7:36 p.m. Oct. 7, 2009
I have heard that this bull was run off private ground by trespassers so that
mr. money bags could pull the trigger. Any truth to this Doyle?
Johnny Utah # 9 | 7:49 p.m. Oct. 7, 2009
It's sad to see such a beautiful animal killed for no reason.
Concerned | 8:03 p.m. Oct. 7, 2009
I agree with Johnny Utah #9. It's unfortunate that we celebrate the
killing of the largest, most beautiful animals.
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Baps | 8:10 p.m. Oct. 7, 2009
That's just lame!
Nice Shootin' | 8:26 p.m. Oct. 7, 2009
Way to go!!! That is one heck of an elk!!! Don't let those hippie comments
above get to ya. Silly liberals don't know what's goin' on.
Anonymous | 8:38 p.m. Oct. 7, 2009
Thank you DN for reporting on a subject that is important to Utah. This elk was
not "killed for nothing". Hunting is not only an enjoyable experience
but also critical to Utah's economy. The wildlife in this state are an
incredible natural and entirely renewable resource that we can utilize. As for
those who believe that hunting is cruel...... Obviously you have never watched a
wild animal die of natural causes.
Elk on plate & on wall! | 8:43 p.m. Oct. 7, 2009
Yes we hunt in Utah! We harvest, cook, and eat our wildlife. If you are not
capable of doing so....... Luckily for you there is McD's.
mossy back | 7:47 a.m. Oct. 8, 2009
moss back guide are cheaters if they are around were you are hunting they will
chase the big ones off just so the people that pay the big bucks get the big
animals. This bull was in a few other peoples sights but they chased it off.
Johnny Utah # 9 | 10:10 a.m. Oct. 8, 2009
I'm fine with hunting for survival. But not for sport or trophies.
Sports are set up to be a fair competition between competitors. Where is the sport in sitting in tree stand and shooting whatever walks by? If you want to call it a sport hunt it with your bare hands or use just a knife.
This guy didn't even hunt it. He paid guides to find it for him. According to reports "He (Austad) wasn't at camp more than an hour before the guides brought him to the bull." And all he had to do was pull the trigger.
Yeah, he's a real sportsman alright! (sarcasm)
Sports are set up to be a fair competition between competitors. Where is the sport in sitting in tree stand and shooting whatever walks by? If you want to call it a sport hunt it with your bare hands or use just a knife.
This guy didn't even hunt it. He paid guides to find it for him. According to reports "He (Austad) wasn't at camp more than an hour before the guides brought him to the bull." And all he had to do was pull the trigger.
Yeah, he's a real sportsman alright! (sarcasm)
More will Enjoy | 10:32 a.m. Oct. 8, 2009
Many, many more people will enjoy seeing this magnificient animal because of the
hunter. If he had not taken it, this old bull would be dead in a short time.
Now, millions have at least seen its picture, and after taxidermy, generations
will be able to see and touch this "largest, most beautiful animal".
Sojo | 1:53 p.m. Oct. 8, 2009
Re: More will Enjoy | 10:32 a.m
I think people would enjoy the magnificence of this animal a little more if perhaps they snapped a picture while it was still alive.
Good luck showing a pic of a dead animal to your kids. I can just hear it now. "Look kids this is one of the oldest and largest elk ever! Well...it's dead...because that man shot it".
I think people would enjoy the magnificence of this animal a little more if perhaps they snapped a picture while it was still alive.
Good luck showing a pic of a dead animal to your kids. I can just hear it now. "Look kids this is one of the oldest and largest elk ever! Well...it's dead...because that man shot it".
Too Sojo.... | 3:11 p.m. Oct. 8, 2009
Sojo... have you ever stalked in on a big bull elk like this.... I doubt it.
Don't talk about what people would enjoy.. They won't go see it
alive. Because these animals are WILD... And 99.9% of people won't do
what it takes to actually see a wild animal in it's environment. the .1%
are the hunters. Oh there are those who go to Yellowstone or some place where
they feed the 'wild' animals. That's great. Keeps the
nonconsumptive person happy. Those animals in Yellowstone or on a feed line are
not wild. Oh man don't get me going.
Try this on, "Look kids.... this is a beautiful prime rib dinner.. and guess what.. It's dead." "I didn't have the nerve to harvest this meat myself so I payed somebody else to do it."
Try this on, "Look kids.... this is a beautiful prime rib dinner.. and guess what.. It's dead." "I didn't have the nerve to harvest this meat myself so I payed somebody else to do it."
Sojo | 4:27 p.m. Oct. 8, 2009
Re: Too Sojo.... | 3:11 p.m
I think that I CAN talk about what people would enjoy since I myself would rather see a picture of this elk alive. You're 100% right though, most people won't go out to see these animals in the wild. That's why I'm saying, take a picture of it while it's alive if you want to share the beauty of it.
And I have seen animals like this alive and in the "real" wild thanks for asking. The difference is I don't have the need to shoot them.
And we're not talking about hunting for the sole purpose of food and survival. I have no problem with hunting and killing something you are going to eat. But this guy took this elk for the sole purpose of filling his trophy room and his own ego.
My response to "More will enjoy" was to point out that people could have also enjoyed a picture of this elk alive. And the stupidity of their comment by saying millions more get to enjoy the beauty of this animal by seeing a picture of it dead.
I think that I CAN talk about what people would enjoy since I myself would rather see a picture of this elk alive. You're 100% right though, most people won't go out to see these animals in the wild. That's why I'm saying, take a picture of it while it's alive if you want to share the beauty of it.
And I have seen animals like this alive and in the "real" wild thanks for asking. The difference is I don't have the need to shoot them.
And we're not talking about hunting for the sole purpose of food and survival. I have no problem with hunting and killing something you are going to eat. But this guy took this elk for the sole purpose of filling his trophy room and his own ego.
My response to "More will enjoy" was to point out that people could have also enjoyed a picture of this elk alive. And the stupidity of their comment by saying millions more get to enjoy the beauty of this animal by seeing a picture of it dead.
Cheez | 4:52 p.m. Oct. 8, 2009
Re: Too Sojo.... | 3:11 p.m.
This guy paid $170,000 for his Governor's Tag, plus the outfitters fees to find it.
He didn't take this bull in order to feed his family. That's some expensive elk jerky.
This guy paid $170,000 for his Governor's Tag, plus the outfitters fees to find it.
He didn't take this bull in order to feed his family. That's some expensive elk jerky.
Duane A. | 7:13 p.m. Oct. 8, 2009
Re: Too Sojo.... | 3:11 p.m
What part of the "wild" do have to go to in order to "stalk in" on your Prime Rib?
I know cows can be especially tough to track. What side of the fence do you like to shoot from?
What part of the "wild" do have to go to in order to "stalk in" on your Prime Rib?
I know cows can be especially tough to track. What side of the fence do you like to shoot from?
Anonymous | 8:02 a.m. Oct. 9, 2009
People like Sojo don't shoot it. They rely on somebody else to do the
killing so that they can eat.
Myself, and others, prefer, no, actually enjoy doing it ourselves.
Myself, and others, prefer, no, actually enjoy doing it ourselves.
Sojo | 10:13 a.m. Oct. 9, 2009
I love how hunters try to make it sound like I'm some sort of a villain or
less of a human for not wanting to kill an animal.
"They rely on somebody else to do the killing so that they can eat."
How do you know I even eat meat at all? You don't. So don't make assumptions about something you don't know anything about.
As I said before, this article and the killing of this elk isn't about hunting for food. It's about trophies and ego.
"They rely on somebody else to do the killing so that they can eat."
How do you know I even eat meat at all? You don't. So don't make assumptions about something you don't know anything about.
As I said before, this article and the killing of this elk isn't about hunting for food. It's about trophies and ego.
Angus | 11:09 a.m. Oct. 9, 2009
Re: Anonymous | 8:02 a.m.
I'd be willing to bet that your diet does not consist of only animals that you have shot. When was the last time you had some bacon or a steak?
You ALSO rely on others to kill animals so that you can eat.
So come out of your tree stand and quit looking down on others. I respect the fact that you eat what you kill but, doing so doesn't make you any better than someone who buys meat in the store.
I'd be willing to bet that your diet does not consist of only animals that you have shot. When was the last time you had some bacon or a steak?
You ALSO rely on others to kill animals so that you can eat.
So come out of your tree stand and quit looking down on others. I respect the fact that you eat what you kill but, doing so doesn't make you any better than someone who buys meat in the store.
Both sides | 10:40 p.m. Oct. 10, 2009
Growing up in Montana in a family with generations of hunting experience, I have
probably seen more deer & elk in a year than some see in a life time. I
bagged big bucks and big elk and enjoyed every minute of it. Being outdoors in
the crisp Fall air when an Elk bugles is a thrill that makes your heart race!
And following tracks in the snow as you put the sneak on a particularly wise old
buck, only to hear him snort and take off before you can get your gun up is
sheer fun! Mostly, for me, it was the joy of spending time with my Dad doing
something that we loved. The time came for both of us, though, when we
preferred to put on the sneak & take pictures of the magnificent and
majestic beasts. It brought the same joy. I'm content to know that I
could kill something if I needed it, but now I enjoy seeing them alive and
watching them in their habitat. I have trophies and memories. This
"Daddy's girl" sees both sides of the issue. Please stop
arguing, respect others & enjoy nature your own way.
Elk.....it's whats for dinner!!! | 2:02 a.m. Oct. 11, 2009
SOJO- What's the saying...."if you don't like the station, change
the channel." That is an awesome bull elk! I actually seen it in person
shortly after it was taken, and its quite a sight. I guess that's because I
am a hunter and I can appreciate that sort of thing. If I didn't hunt, I
wouldn't waist my time commenting on the blog where many other hunters are
obviously going to comment. Do you think that by telling the veiwers how much
you dissagree with hunting it is going to convert all the hunters that see this
page into tofu eating PITA fanclub members? If you like the station stick
around, if you don't- MOVE ON!!
Sojo | 12:42 p.m. Oct. 12, 2009
Re: Elk.....it's whats for dinner!!! | 2:02 a.m.
Yes, I hope people will read my comments and at least think about the things they are doing from another perspective. Will it change their minds? It may or may not. But that's the whole point of blogs and posting comments. It gets people to think of things they may not otherwise see.
And I would never just ignore something that I disagree with and "change the channel" as you say... We don't live in a communist country, This is America and we have the freedom to fight against things that we disagree with and try to change them. We don't have to ignore them.
Yes, I hope people will read my comments and at least think about the things they are doing from another perspective. Will it change their minds? It may or may not. But that's the whole point of blogs and posting comments. It gets people to think of things they may not otherwise see.
And I would never just ignore something that I disagree with and "change the channel" as you say... We don't live in a communist country, This is America and we have the freedom to fight against things that we disagree with and try to change them. We don't have to ignore them.
Regarding 'sojo's | 11:15 p.m. Oct. 12, 2009
The problem with 'not arguing' is the fact that hunters aren't
trying to impose their beliefs upon the rest of the world. We are not
attempting to take away a vegetarians rights to be a vegetarian. But there are
those who wish to impose their beliefs upon me and my children. Those who
believe that our constitution protects animals. That animals have
"rights". Who think that because they believe it is 'evil'
to hunt that I should believe the same and if I don't that they should do
everything in their power to prevent me from enjoying the creatures on this
great earth. If God put them there then they were put there for us to utilize.
If it wasn't God then their is no 'evil' to speak of. I love
animals..... they taste great. I love to hunt them even if they don't
taste great. Vegetarian: Old indian word for 'bad hunter'. I
won't try and convince you that it's bad to kill a carrot...
don't tell me it's bad to harvest wildlife! I would personally hunt
all of my meat if it was feasible. Just not enough tags available.
Old Indian | 12:11 a.m. Oct. 13, 2009
Harvest wildlife for survival & feed family = good
Kill wildlife for plaque on wall = stupid waste of god's creatures.
Kill wildlife for plaque on wall = stupid waste of god's creatures.
Sojo | 12:28 a.m. Oct. 13, 2009
Once again my point has been missed completely. I never said hunting was
"evil". Nor am I trying to take away your right to hunt in order to
feed your family.
As you said "If God put them there then they were put there for us to utilize"
And I agree with that but, "UTILIZE" them as God intended.
As you said "If God put them there then they were put there for us to utilize"
And I agree with that but, "UTILIZE" them as God intended.
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Denny Austad of Ammon, Idaho, shows off the prize elk he killed in south-central Utah. The bull elk set a Boone and Crockett Club record for antlers: 4785/8 points.
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