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If I'm understanding correctly, someone who signs a Letter of Intent and goes on a mission before any college can still be contacted. Anyone else come to that conclusion? If that is the case, it seems like a loophole that could cause problems in the future.
Oh ya big problem when a young man signs with BYU while on a mission but, when Ben Olsen left and went to UCLA it was no big deal at all. Sounds like sour grapes to me. . .
This was the Ben Olson Rule LONG before it was the Riley Nelson Rule. It just so happens the timing of the ruling lines up with current events in Utah. Also, BYU has WAY more to benefit from this rule than other schools. Now the Utes, and PAC-10 teams will have to win the recruiting war before they get to BYU. As the Rock Monster correctly points out BYU has enough people in the "field" doing their recruiting for them so this rule is less impactful from that standpoint.
There was plenty of crying when Olsen left. Pay attention.
You have a short memory. We went nuts over Olson as a fan base. It was embarrassing!
One small problem with calling it the "Riley Nelson Rule."
Riley Nelson was not on scholarship at Utah State, and never signed a National Letter of Intent (NLI) with the Aggies.
He was basically a walk-on.
He did have an academic scholarship (as a 4.0 student).
So, he technically would not have been considered a "scholarship athlete" in regards to this rule.
One difference... we were all over Olson for the transfer... not UCLA. USU fans blame BYU first and Riley second.
"BYU has enough people in the "field" doing their recruiting for them so this rule is less impactful from that standpoint."
Give me just one example of a mission president, bishop, or other representative of the church recruiting a missionary in the mission field.
The fact is, BYU haters assume this is the case anytime a player decides to transfer to BYU.
BYU is very strict about having anyone outside the athletic department involved in recruiting. In fact, just last week at the Cougar Club Luncheon, BYU STRONGLY reminded BYU boosters that if they knew of an athlete who might be a good prospect for BYU, the booster should contact the BYU Athletic Department and not do ANY recruiting or have any discussion at all with the athlete about attending BYU--this goes for high school players, college players AND players serving missions.
The haters will believe whatever they want, but that doesn't prove anything.
Truth is, that the golden boy-church program (BYU) Made a huge ethical mistake here. I get so tired of hearing Bronco preach honor, honesty, and integrity and then he pulls a stunt like this. BYU can spin it anyway they want. Bottom line is that what they did was dirty and wrong. It just goes to to show that all schools, BYU included, will do anything to get ahead. Don't kid yourself BYU by thinking that you hold yourselves to a higher ethical standard.
is riley nelson ever going to see significant time anyway so who really cares?
I personally didnt go to BYU before my mission but as I was out I would talk to other missionaries that were going to go to BYU when they finished their missions. The church can become very important to a boys life while on a mission. Even more than before he went. Therefore I don't see anything strange about Riley wanted to go to a CHURCH school. Since he served in a foreign lanquage speaking mission he can get a semester of credit for his language skills learned on his mission at BYU. The idea that he wants to associate with kids that are members of his church at a church sponsored school seems normal. Yes other schools have LDS kids there too, but give the kid a break. Riley wanted to go to BYU. He just recently said that himself. Kids his age change their minds about alot of things. I changed schools when I was in college, and I wasnt even an athlete. Quit blaming Bronco.
Do you need a tissue buddy?
State specifically what BYU did wrong and include evidence. Are you saying they should have told Nelson, "Sorry, you can't come here" when he asked? They didn't recruit him, they accepted him when he informed them he was coming.
that Utah is the only relevant program in the state. And no one there cares.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa is right. Do you Aggies ever stop complaining? waaaa, BYU stole our colors. waaaa, BYU won't play us in bball. waaa, BYU steals our recruits. Get a clue! This guy just wanted to go to a QB school. He made the decision. He wanted to do it! Would you honestly want to play for a school that was known as one of the top 10 worst teams year after year? Give the guy a break and don't always be hating on BYU. I guess that will never change because they preach BYU hate in Logan. To be filled with hate over sports is a wasted life if you ask me. People like WA aggie chose to live that way. I feel bad for the person.
I've lived outside of Utah for most of my life. Here in Arizona, there are more ASU fans and U of A fans than BYU fans. Many local church leaders and members HATE BYU and want to see them lose every time they play. it's the same in other parts of the country.
Many times, the local fans are trying to convert the missionaries to the local university, NOT to BYU. If you ask around, you will find that BYU athletes serving missions are often contacted by local members and informed that they should transfer from BYU to a better school.
Those of you who think the leaders and members of the Church are all recruiters for BYU are simply ignorant of the real world.
So does this mean that byu will keep their coaches out of the MTC? Ask Tai Wesley how his "visit" from the byu coaches in the MTC went.
You act like you know all the facts, please explain how you know "what really" happened so all of us without the connections inside college football can get the truth. Sorry to be sacastic but your comment makes it sound as though you know exactly what went on and how it all went down. Bradley signed a LOI with Louisville and while on his mission he reconsidered BYU and called them. Ben Olson did the same and went to UCLA. If you know anything about young men they change there mind quite a bit, with that being the case why are people so bent on blaming BYU for that?
WA Aggie should be Waaaah Aggie. C'mon, blame Riley if you want to, not BYU. Bronco did nothing. If Riley contacted any school on his own and asked if he could play, what's a coach to do? There's no shame in answering the young man's question and saying, "yes, if you decide to come, that's fine with us."
Don't let your sour grapes color your thinking on this. BYU did nothing wrong.
That said, I like this new legislation because I hope young men will focus more on their missions and have less football distractions---from ANY school.
No one plays the game with more integity than BYU. Whine all you want Ags, your boy just didn't want to be in Logan--who could blame him. Funny thing is, he probably will just be a place holder until Lark, Munns, or Heaps is ready to go.
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