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how many times the word "sexual" is used in this article? I guess they are still humans but, it is still sad...
It is amazing how human beings continue to act like human beings. It makes you appreciate the officers who act with integrity despite the pressures, the danger and the stress. It actually speaks well of a profession where only a few of the thousands of those employed succumb to conduct that would not cost them their job in very few other professions.
How many 100's of the police officers these 23 worked with, KNEW about their misconduct, yet did NOTHING to report it or enforce the law on their OWN kind?????
In my opinion, that makes them as bad or worse than the 23 who were sanctioned.
Law Enforcement has a HIGHER STANDARD to maintain and fails miserably.
This is mearly the tip of the iceberg with respect to a nationwide epidemic of MILITARIZED POLICE DOMESTIC TERRORISM.
Hey "fedupwithdirtycops"
Why don't you do all of us a big favor? How about YOU join the police force, notwithstanding the low wages, the stress, the great hours, the missed meals, missed family gatherings, and the dangers? Then you can make it YOUR crusade to clean up all them dirty cops? I will be happy to provide your application and the pen. That is, provided you can pass the background check because it appears you have dealt with a number of "dirty cops."
Where do you come off about 100's of police officers? Do you know everything about the people you work with? I doubt it. Many officers policing their own are responsible for officers going to POST for these hearings. I for one am grateful that your opinion doesn't result to a hill of beans.
Most of these people were turned in by their co-workers. Most of the time that is how an investigation gets started in the first place. I work in law enforcement and was involved in one of these incident where I had to inform a department of misconduct by an officer. Don't throw everyone under the bus. As a whole law enforcment does maintain the higher standard. A few bad apples can ruin the whole bushel.
Criminals catching criminals.
Just think, these are the only ones who got caught. How many others out there got lucky and didn't get caught.
I don't know of a profession out there that does not have people working in it, that does not have problems. Any time you hire humans you are going to have an element of problems. This includes workers in schools, government, law enforcement, religion, banking, health care, homemakers, etc. There is not an element of society that these types of behaviors does not affect. We need to appricate the hundreds and hundreds who do their job right instead of focusing on the few who give their professions a black eye. Thanks to those who turn them in and protect the public and thanks to those who do their job.
I am happy they actually took steps to take care of this misconduct...they do have to uphold a higher standard and there typically is a lot of coverup within the depts, so this is really refreshing to see them do something about it..now if they could just do the same in schools, where sexual misconduct is getting unbelievable, my faith in all jobs of a higher standard will be reinstated. ATV rider-(go to utah right to know, and realize none of these people work for low wages, that is a huge myth).
Hey, how about we all step back and take a deep breath. These folks could be our children, our family members, and yes, there is a higher standard for law enforcement (granted) but we all make mistakes. Let's hope these people can make the changes necessary to get on with their profession, and moreover, let's hope we're a society willing to give them the chance to do so. We would all certainly want that. We'll never know the pressures law enforcement faces until we're walking in their shoes. A little kindness right now for these folks will go a long way.
It is so sad. We work so hard to hire great people. The world gets some of them. I weep today because years ago I hired one of the young men listed. He was so valiant then. I pray that he and his family can recover. Those of you outside the business don't really understand. Those of you inside the business, DANG IT! Clean it up! I am also a former member of POST Council. Thank you POST for doing a tough job. This part of it is no fun, but is very necessary.
I agree with the last two commentators - Respect & Former Chief - who I believe have stated very eloquently the correct attitude we should have toward those who fall.
I would also hope that society and law enforcement in general would come to feel that way about those who have fallen afoul of the law, if most officers have not already come to this sad proposition seeing so many of their brothers/fellow citizens fall into errors as well: upholding law while holding our hope for reform and love and forgiveness to those who have also fallen in a different way.
its a good start in cleaning up police force, but more still needs to be done.
Police are alot like street thugs in that they both cover for their friends, and when one does "snitch" it is looked down upon by the group.
Your right... We should forget about the thousands of inmates, murderers, rapists, criminals and theives that are incarcerated and pay more attention to the personal lives of our co-workers.....???? What kind of world do you live in? Have you EVER worked in a correctional environment?? Until you have, I suggest you keep your mouth shut! You cannot comment on the hundreds of us who work our butts off to keep YOU safe! unless you yourself are working towards the same goal... which includes, don't comment unless you KNOW what your talking about!
In reference to you "myth".... have you done a comparison as to what the average secretary in a prison makes? It is 7 dollars average the rest of the state. Do you know what the average correctional officer makes in the state of Utah?? It is almost 50% less than any other state! Do you know that we are working twice the overtime, and do not get paid. Do you know WE work EVERY holiday, overnight, swing shift, we get called at home. We get harassed by criminals, we get harassed by people like you! Should we get at least equal pay! HECK YES! Should we make more than the average person??? HECK YES! We put our lives in danger every day!! Have you done your research before you commented??
RE: Good start
What job do you work in that you are entitled to label police equal to street thugs? Are you an expert? At what point are they equal? I guess we all put our lives in danger. Us trying to stop the criminals, them trying to avoid capture, get the money bag, carrying weapons, being in a gang.... There is no cover ups. Put down your tv remote and work in a correctional environment. That will make you an expert and then you will be entitled to your opinion!
Ok first off I respect any officer for what he/she dose, and no I have never done the job but I was in the military and have put my life on the line. I'm just sick of the double standard with cops that its ok to break the laws they are sworn to protect because they think that the badge puts them above it. And the sad truth is you are more then ready to point the finger at the citizens, and can't take responsibility for your own actions when the shoe is on the other foot.
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