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Utah State, BYU football: Ags want real rivalry with Y.
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Coug | 9:44 p.m. Sept. 28, 2009
I'm all for extending the yearly scrimmage.
UteFan | 11:00 p.m. Sept. 28, 2009
I wouldn't mind hearing about the Cougs getting smacked every year by utah
st. It will happen soon now that a Utah man is running utah st. Cougs are
obviously on a slide down to the bottom of the conference. It will be years
before they make it back to the middle. Utah will remain on top.
Mr. Football | 11:15 p.m. Sept. 28, 2009
So i've noticed almost everyone has been hard on Mr. Logan and his size at
cb. He is a very good tackler and plays well defending the flats but whenever
they get down to the red zone or close to it the qb's can just throw it up
for grabs in the end zone and most of the time it's a TD for the other
team. Why not sub a taller db in for him just for the red zone? He can still
play a huge role for the team playing on the rest of the field. What do you
think?
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Re:UteFan | 1:08 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
And your proof/signs of this "slide?"
Slide | 6:11 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
How about ugly losses in three of the last six cougar games?
Anonymous | 6:47 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
As I've said, BYU gains nothing from this match-up.
Re: Re: UteFan | 7:02 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
and your a real expert on this stuff don't you. You ute fans are all the
same. You care more about Byu getting its butt kicked because it means Utah will
be on top. " UteFan"
Anonymous | 7:10 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
If want a "real" rivalry then we need to win more than once every 20
years.
re: UteFan | 7:36 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
Kind of like how the Utes have all BYU coaches?
Y fan | 7:52 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
Saw some clips of Robert Turbin. He looks to be the real deal. Good effort and
solid yards after the catch. Glad to see USU found a competent quarterback this
year. Hearing complaints about Nelson make my ulcers flare up. My permission to
let him have it if he gets on the field though. We were on the other side of
that with UCLA. (Yes he is allowed to transfer if he wants to, and he is going
somewhere that he thinks is better for him, but it just isn't freaking
fair!)
Looking forward to a good game Friday.
Looking forward to a good game Friday.
Re:Anonymous (youre funny) | 7:55 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
Except for a victory which isn't a given in Provo anymore JUST LOOK AT WHAT
FSU did to you. Maybe you need to play somewhere more in your
"league," that will help you avoid the embarrassing losses you just
experienced on National TV, I mean the Mountain or Versus or whatever lame
station it is you play on. By "gaining nothing" it seems like you
gain more than you did when you lost all respectability at home:)
Hilariously brainless comment.
Hilariously brainless comment.
Re: Slide | 8:01 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
How about consecutive weeks ranked in the top 25?
to Re: Re: UteFan | 8:18 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
"you're" - as in:
1) I met your brother, and he said you're a real nice fellow.
2) Your prediction does not make sense.
3) You're going to regret putting money on your team.
Keep it up, you're going toget it! If you continue to struggle, just substitute "you are" it helps me out. Don't get me started on "lose", "loose".
1) I met your brother, and he said you're a real nice fellow.
2) Your prediction does not make sense.
3) You're going to regret putting money on your team.
Keep it up, you're going toget it! If you continue to struggle, just substitute "you are" it helps me out. Don't get me started on "lose", "loose".
6-degrees | 9:12 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
The Aggie argument for competitiveness with BYU seems to be:
USU = WAC = Boise State = beat BYU twice during the Crowton era
Let's be honest; the Aggies have had one of the worst football teams in the country for dcades and Utah State hasn't even been competitive in the WAC, which is a MUCH WEAKER conference than the MWC. The Aggies haven't finished the season with a winning record since 1993, which is the last time Utah State beat BYU, barely, 58-56.
The Aggies haven't beaten BYU in Provo since 1978, which was the last time USU beat the Cougars by more than a FG, 24-7. Interestingly, the Aggies lost to Weber State 25-44 and Utah 20-23 to finish the 1978 season at 7-4, the best record Utah State has had in the last 30 years!!
USU = WAC = Boise State = beat BYU twice during the Crowton era
Let's be honest; the Aggies have had one of the worst football teams in the country for dcades and Utah State hasn't even been competitive in the WAC, which is a MUCH WEAKER conference than the MWC. The Aggies haven't finished the season with a winning record since 1993, which is the last time Utah State beat BYU, barely, 58-56.
The Aggies haven't beaten BYU in Provo since 1978, which was the last time USU beat the Cougars by more than a FG, 24-7. Interestingly, the Aggies lost to Weber State 25-44 and Utah 20-23 to finish the 1978 season at 7-4, the best record Utah State has had in the last 30 years!!
geezer | 9:17 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
RE: Mr. Football
I think subbing for Logan in Red Zone areas isn't a bad idea. We don't have much experience at corner, other than Bradley and Logan. Logan's problems against CSU weren't Red Zone problems, but were PI problems. He needs to look back for the ball. He did make some nice plays, which were overlooked by some. I look for "Logan" to have a great game vs. USU.
I think subbing for Logan in Red Zone areas isn't a bad idea. We don't have much experience at corner, other than Bradley and Logan. Logan's problems against CSU weren't Red Zone problems, but were PI problems. He needs to look back for the ball. He did make some nice plays, which were overlooked by some. I look for "Logan" to have a great game vs. USU.
You want a real rivalry? | 10:03 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
Then get a real football team. Either that or only play Weber State and they can
be your big rival, although they'd probably whup you every year too now
that McBride is their coach.
Come on Anderson | 10:20 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
This article pinpoints Utah States problems over the years. Simular to what Utah
used to do in the past, "We don't care about winning our conference,
we just want to beat big brother." If Anderson wants to be a legit coach
then he needs to focus on winning the games that he should win in his
conference. An upset of Utah or BYU does nothing for their program. USU needs to
pull it together and start winning, then when they are legit they can start
talking BYU and Utah.
Utah | 10:22 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
I enjoyed the loss you had to a team that BSU dominated on national TV, ESPN
baby!!! That's why BSU is number 5 and utah is not in the top 25 at all
they have no repect even after the sugar bowl.
AGGIES | 10:30 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
Hey Pick 6,
I know you are having trouble throwing the ball to your own recievers, that is why we call you "pick 6"!!
Imagine how much trouble you will have throwing the ball to a team that has your same colors...LOL!
PICK 6...USU 6 Byu 0
Mendenhall...Start Nelson and lets get some confidence back in our Offense....Hall and Obama are so yesterday!
I know you are having trouble throwing the ball to your own recievers, that is why we call you "pick 6"!!
Imagine how much trouble you will have throwing the ball to a team that has your same colors...LOL!
PICK 6...USU 6 Byu 0
Mendenhall...Start Nelson and lets get some confidence back in our Offense....Hall and Obama are so yesterday!
Another Rivalry | 11:31 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
How many arhrivals can one team have? From BYU's perspective, the only
rivalry exists in late November. From other school's perspective, it's
Wyoming, Utah Sate, New Mexico, Utah, (Hawaii during the WAC era). Why? Because
everyone's always gunning for the top dog!
TV | 11:47 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
Is this game going to be televised on BYUTV? Or is it relegated to the Mountain
or Versus again?
Re: 6-degrees | 11:50 a.m. Sept. 29, 2009
"WAC, which is a MUCH WEAKER conference than the MWC"
Lets compare this statement to current 2009's results: MWC one ranked team - BYU 20. WAC one ranked team Boise State 5.
MWC 2 games against ranked opponents 1 win, 1 blow-out loss. WAC 4 games against ranked opponents, 1 win, 2 close losses, 1 blow-out loss.
6 games between WAC and MWC teams. WAC won 2, MWC won 4.
Games of notable interest:
Weber 23 Colorado 24
Southern Utah 19 San Diego 35
Southern Utah 34 Utah State 53
Oregon 31 Utah 24
Oregon 8 Boise State 19
There appears to be more parity between the two conferences than your parochial mind believes.
May you avoid such fallacious and arrogant statements in the future, that is my hopes.
Good luck, and good riddance.
Lets compare this statement to current 2009's results: MWC one ranked team - BYU 20. WAC one ranked team Boise State 5.
MWC 2 games against ranked opponents 1 win, 1 blow-out loss. WAC 4 games against ranked opponents, 1 win, 2 close losses, 1 blow-out loss.
6 games between WAC and MWC teams. WAC won 2, MWC won 4.
Games of notable interest:
Weber 23 Colorado 24
Southern Utah 19 San Diego 35
Southern Utah 34 Utah State 53
Oregon 31 Utah 24
Oregon 8 Boise State 19
There appears to be more parity between the two conferences than your parochial mind believes.
May you avoid such fallacious and arrogant statements in the future, that is my hopes.
Good luck, and good riddance.
Will enjoy watching | 12:18 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
BYU kill baby brother 49-0. I will also enjoy watching little brother squirm
seeing BYU beat a team worse than they did.
uh... look up the facts! | 12:39 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
Last time I checked, TCU (you know the team that beat Boise State last year) is
in the MWC and is ranked...wait a minute and I'll look it up...(you know
this internet thingie is amazing, you can actually look up facts before spouting
off)! TCU, a member of the MWC, is ranked #11 in the AP top 25 and #10 in the
USA Today Poll. That's TWO Mountain West teams ranked in the Top 20! Oh,
and Weber State lost to Colorado STATE (not Colorado). You know, arguments have
more validity when you actually know what you're talking about! MWC and WAC
are NOT, I repeat, NOT in the same boat! MWC is a better league!
Pac-10 Rules | 12:55 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
No one cares about the WAC or the MWC. Both are weak by Pac-10 standards. bYu
fans (or Utah fans) picking on USU is laughable. Both conferences trying
desprately for years to earn respect and still don't deserve it.
Cougarf@n | 1:22 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
Anderson can establish a rivalry by winning games outside the BYU-USU game. If
USU makes a game out of it every year but goes on to lose 6-10 games a year then
this game will never be a rivalry and BYU probably drops the Aggies from their
schedule in five years. Make waves in the WAC and the importance of this game
increases significantly. Nobody cared about the BYU/Utah game in the 80's
and it became relevant when Utah suited up good teams in the 90's.
There's no reason the same thing can't happen with USU, but it's
what happens outside this game that makes the difference. You can start by
beating Boise State, I'll be a huge fan of USU football for that game.
RE: Pac-10 Rules | 1:26 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
You're kidding right? Boise beats Oregon, Oregon barely beats Purdue and
narrowly escapes a come from behind victory by a first year quarterback against
Utah then crushes one of the more highly touted Pac-10 teams in Cal.
That's not even saying anything about USC's inconsistency.
You're right: the Pac-10 rules!
All The Blah Blah Blah | 1:44 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
WAC vs MWC...who cares!!! Some people don't get who the real ene,y
is...it's the BCS. According to those that have the BCS...MWC and WAC are
just a blip on the map. They will allow one team from one of these conferences
to play in their "good boys club" tournament at the end of the year,
but they will never be allowed to play in the national championship game. All
this talk of Utah putting down BYU or vise-a-versa, MWC putting down WAC or
vica-a-versa is ridiculous. Fans of both conferences should be cheering for the
good teams in each conference to win as much a possible to put pressure on the
real enemy...the BCS.
The current model of college football is a joke.
The current model of college football is a joke.
Ute fan 2 | 2:16 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
If there is a team in the MWC that would lose to Utah State then it would be
BYU...so i think its good that the coach is actually getting serious about
taking them down. Cause it wont happen against the Utes.
MWC vs WAC 2009 | 2:55 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
The IS Boise State, and NOTHING else
Sagarin Ratings
MWC............ WAC
#12 TCU........ #2 Boise State
#19 BYU........ #50 Fresno State
#28 Utah....... #69 Hawaii
#61 AFA........ #88 Nevada
#62 CSU........ #89 Idaho
#91 UNLV....... #106 San Jose State
#103 Wyoming..... #108 Louisiana Tech
#116 SDSU........ #119 Utah State
#149 New Mexico.. #169 New Mexico State
side by side, top to bottom, the WAC isn't even close to the MWC.
Top 3
MWC > WAC
Middle 3
MWC > WAC
Bottom 3
MWC > WAC
Sagarin Ratings
MWC............ WAC
#12 TCU........ #2 Boise State
#19 BYU........ #50 Fresno State
#28 Utah....... #69 Hawaii
#61 AFA........ #88 Nevada
#62 CSU........ #89 Idaho
#91 UNLV....... #106 San Jose State
#103 Wyoming..... #108 Louisiana Tech
#116 SDSU........ #119 Utah State
#149 New Mexico.. #169 New Mexico State
side by side, top to bottom, the WAC isn't even close to the MWC.
Top 3
MWC > WAC
Middle 3
MWC > WAC
Bottom 3
MWC > WAC
Think challenged | 3:11 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
"If there is a team in the MWC that would lose to Utah State then it would
be BYU...so i think..."
No you don't...
THINK!
No you don't...
THINK!
WAC = Boise State | 3:13 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
and very little else
IdahoBYU Fan | 7:05 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
I would like to see Utah St get better and be competative. I think they have
the right coach for the job. 53 points against SUU doesn't impress me so
much, but 30 against Texas A&M does! If BYU's defense has an
uninspired game - this could be close! I run a weekly college football contest
for about 40 interested college football fans in the area. I have given Utah St
14 points and the votes are split...
How cool would it be if Utah starts Challenging Boise over the next couple of years and pushing the to 25! Go BYU to win Friday... but keep up the good work Utah st!
How cool would it be if Utah starts Challenging Boise over the next couple of years and pushing the to 25! Go BYU to win Friday... but keep up the good work Utah st!
Coug | 7:30 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
Utah State hasn't beat BYU since 1993. Last year Utah State fans started
chanting overrated at BYU in a game they were down 34-0. They only scored in
garbage time. And you want to call BYU fans the losers?
Anonymous | 9:01 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
utah state was never down 34-0 last year. but thanks for trying to sound cool.
24-0 at the end of one. then usu won the next three quarters 14-10. i dont think
it was necessarily garbage time either if your "heisman" max was still
in the game getting sacked and picked off. thanks for your great analysis
though. and usu fans are sorry for cheering for their team. shoot our bad.
re: anonymous | 9:50 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
"usu won the next three quarters 14-10".
Wow, they won three quarters, really? Our bad, USU is the greatest team of the decade! Congrats on that. I didn't bother to look it up, did they win each of the three quarters, or just the sum of the three?
Where are the BSU fans coming from? Just generic WAC fans looking out for USU, or is their schedule so bad right now that they are bored. Wish BSU had the opportunity to play a legitimate team this year. It is going to become progressively difficult for them to justify a top 5 ranking as the season progresses (we beat 9 unranked teams, we are awesome). That will become even more difficult if TCU and Houston remain undefeated.
Looking forward to a great game Friday. Looks like USU answered the QB question. Expect some solid play.
Wow, they won three quarters, really? Our bad, USU is the greatest team of the decade! Congrats on that. I didn't bother to look it up, did they win each of the three quarters, or just the sum of the three?
Where are the BSU fans coming from? Just generic WAC fans looking out for USU, or is their schedule so bad right now that they are bored. Wish BSU had the opportunity to play a legitimate team this year. It is going to become progressively difficult for them to justify a top 5 ranking as the season progresses (we beat 9 unranked teams, we are awesome). That will become even more difficult if TCU and Houston remain undefeated.
Looking forward to a great game Friday. Looks like USU answered the QB question. Expect some solid play.
re: Anonymous 9:01 | 9:51 p.m. Sept. 29, 2009
You should go check out the scoring summary. BYU scored a touchdown with 1:26
left to go in the third to go up 34-0. Utah State scored two touchdowns in the
fourth to end the game 34-14. Shoot your bad.
BYU Zoob | 8:50 a.m. Sept. 30, 2009
Lets all agree that USU is on the rise - while BYU well...they are a nice
regional team.
Nothing more.
Nothing more.
Surprised | 8:58 a.m. Sept. 30, 2009
Huh? I thought Utah State discontinued their football program many years ago!
But then, I only pay attention to the top 100 teams, so I may have simply
overlooked them.
SpecKK | 1:20 p.m. Sept. 30, 2009
BYU and USU have a rivalry. It's in basketball. They'd have a better
basketball rivalry if one of those games wasn't usually played during the
winter holidays when there aren't students around.
It's true that BYU is padding their schedule when they play USU along with the other lower tier MWC teams. Yet it helps BYU to have a chance fix up some weaknesses in a real game and it gives USU a chance to work on becoming a real football team.
It's true that BYU is padding their schedule when they play USU along with the other lower tier MWC teams. Yet it helps BYU to have a chance fix up some weaknesses in a real game and it gives USU a chance to work on becoming a real football team.
Yawn... | 1:47 p.m. Sept. 30, 2009
BYU wins 56-14.
Keep yacking while you can | 2:12 p.m. Sept. 30, 2009
Basketall season is on the horizon and we zoobs, hopefully, will give the best
team in the state, with the best coach in the state, in one of the toughest
places to play in the nation, as good as game as the Aggies will give us this
weekend! Unless the Aggies pull off the upset, the scores might resemble each
other in the Spectrum! I love my Cougars but there's not a chance in ????
we win in Logan!! Cap on the Aggies for now, because rettrubution will be swift
and just! We reap what we sow!!
Shock the World | 7:22 p.m. Sept. 30, 2009
Aggies will shock the world on Friday night when they knock off Sister Hall and
the Cougs. There will be no stopping Turbin with 200 yards rushing and three
scores. Shock and awe!!
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