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Published: Wednesday, Sept. 23 2009 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Ernest T. Bass

They sound neat!


Nice team work way to stay dedicated to what is important in life.

Unga Brothers

Those are 2 guys the BYU program can be extremely proud of to have within.
Go Cougars!


Congratulations, Victor--you'll be a great missionary, and we look forward to seeing you play again when you return.


It's not too late for Harvey to serve a mission, it can still be more meaningful than all the hype related to football as he refers to it. Football will never teach a young man the same things that giving every minute of your time to others for two years will.

Oh, and for the record Harvey, serving a mission for the LDS church is NEVER a vacation, I don't care how beautiful the place you're serving in is ;) Missionaries don't go to sit on the beach and sip coconuts. It's work; and it's hard. Good for Victor, he'll never regret doing what it took to go serve the Lord and the wonderful people of Hawai'i.

Mad Bozo the Clown

I have a very BIG problem with the Church mandating weight restrictions that are never made known in advance. I've known of another missionary who was sent home from the MTC due to being 18 pounds overweight. If they are going to evaluate religiosity on the basis of weight, these guidelines need to be known and taught to the CTR classes, to the moms who feed them, to the girlfriends. Are there weight restrictions for women, or just men? And why did he get two letters, changing the bar, like that? This is a form of control that has nothing to do with commandments, and everything to do with the image of the church and convenience. I DON'T LIKE IT. For every Elder who manages to get skinny enough to score the right numbers, there are probably 40 who do not. How can anyone meet and unstated standard like that? Who pulls the strings on this? THIS IS A POLICY (what policy?) THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. If there are mandatory weight guidelines, PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW IN CHILDHOOD, not when they are licking the stamp for their mission papers. They need help, not rejection for their weight.


Very cool.


It's not too late Harvey.
Football can wait.


Ever had a fat companion? It is miserable.

I'm glad to see the church taking it seriously.

Also I'm pretty sure Harvey is now married and no longer eligible to serve until older in life.


Mad Bozo the Clown: You chose your handle well! Since you are not responsible for these young men in the mission field then let those who are determine the requirements. Far better to resolve a problem at home than in the mission field.



Harvey is married. So it is too late for him to go on a mission, until he is a senior couple.

His comment about it being a vacation is a joke.

Mad Bozo,

Yes you are a clown. Weight restrictions aren't about control they are about health. And if an individual is too heavy for their height but not fat, then they can get an exemption. I don't think slimming down to a measly 306 at 5'11 is all that skinny. I am 5'10 and technically obese at 215 because of the BMI index. I also have just under 10% body fat. So I agree height weight ratios are ridiculous. The church does insure its missionaries, and the work does need to go forth. So if one is unable to do the work because of health reasons, then the church and mandate a physical requirement. And before you freak out about him being an athlete, not all prospective missionaries are athletes. Settle down a bit and think before you type. I hear it helps.

Kidding Right?

Mad Bozo the Clown... You are kidding right? weight is an important issue for these young men and women who are going to serve for so many diffrent reasons. but besides that health reasons should be priority for them anyways he was 5'11" 350 plus, thats not healthy even for football. He will feel better and be able to function with out a huge health concern. RELAX..

Green Acres

Mad Bozo, I believe it has everything to do with losing enough weight to be healthy enough for the rigors of missionary work. It has nothing to do with righteousness or faith or religiosity. In that regard, I would agree that it needs to be taught - not that you are not worthy if you are significantly overweight, but that it makes it dangerous for you to serve if you are significantly overweight, so work hard now to get the weight down.

Re: Mad Bozo the Clown

You're a little too heated about something you obviously haven't thought through. The church loses bundles of money and precious service time because of the health problems that inevitably occur with people who are moderately and morbidly overweight and obese. It's a health concern and a concern for the companions who have to deal with missionaries that can't keep up with the demands of the work. You can capitalize all the words you want and it won't change common sense. Raising the bar SHOULD include physical fitness. An out of shape body can only work against a person. And I'm speaking as someone who served in a very physically demanding mission, but also as a health care professional. Do you think missionaries just get physicals for fun before they go? Plus, what you're overlooking is that we are taught to care for our bodies from a VERY young age in the church. Have you ignored all of the counsel in the For the Strength of Youth pamphlet regarding our physical health and exercise? Please think before you go on a tirade like that.

Know the facts

Bozo! The weight restrictions are in place due to the physical rigors of a mission. You want them out there without any limitations. It's a good thing! This helps avoid distractions and health problems that should be taken care of before they leave on their missions. There are always exceptions that can be made if the missionary is close to the weight guidelines. These guidelines are based on the missionaries height. Your stats for 1 in 40 at the right number is not accurate. My experience is 35 out of 40 will need to lose no weight. Congrats Elder!

Re: Joe

Unfortunately for Harvey it is too late. His high school years contained some activities that made him ineligible for a mission, but he's moved past that and I support him in all that he does. He has focused on the things he can control now and I applaud him for the efforts he has made in his life. He's a perfect example of the mission of BYU in effect. Bravo, Harvey!!!

To Ike From Confused

I didn't know Harvey was married, thank you for the correction.

As far as the vacation comment, regardless of whether or not it was joke, people really think that. I served in the Pacific islands and I constantly get eyes rolled at me because 'serving in a so-called tropical paradise can't possibly be real work'. So I just wanted to mention it.


is the issue. The Church has paid out thousands of dollars to help overweight missionaries with their health problems in the mission field. This is a fairly new standard. I am sure the church will refine it. Yes, women have a standard also. I don't think it is unreasonable to expect a missionary to be in good health. If he is obese then there is a problem. The amount of weight the Church is asking missionaries to lose is not unreasonable. However, on the other side there are young men who decide they can't lose the weight and stay home. That is sad.


..is this in the sports page? It should be under LDS news.
We don't care who is gone, we care about the next game.

Missions require physical activi

As a missionary, I did not have a bike nor a car - we walked most of the time, and occasionally took the bus. Young men and women preparing for a mission need to include moderate physical training, such as walking, as part of their preparations for a mission.

Congratulations to Victor for getting ready for your mission!

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