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BCS dreams for Utes and Cougars were hasty and fanciful
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16 wins | 11:27 p.m. Sept. 21, 2009
and 1 loss = not ranked anymore.
wer | 11:29 p.m. Sept. 21, 2009
Great observations from a very fine writer and analyst!
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Idahoan | 11:32 p.m. Sept. 21, 2009
Reality is that BSU has a cake-walk schedule, with the exception of Oregon, and
can get in a BCS with only one good win. Reality is rooting for BYU and/or Utah
against TCU, even though it would mean the end of the BCS road for TCU to lose.
Reality is that even though the MWC had lots of progress last year and the first
two weeks this year, suddenly one bad weekend makes them just another average
non-qualifier conference to some "experts."
BCS Reality | 11:51 p.m. Sept. 21, 2009
Reality is ... the BCS has nothing to do with a national championship. It has
everything to do with maximizing the payout for the BCS conferences by providing
more compelling matchups for the 5 BCS games than what was happening in the past
with various bowl tie-ins that prevented the top teams from playing each
other.
Reality is ... the BCS was built with greed and cunning. They realized they needed the major TV markets and population centers. The conferences aligned with the BCS provide that criteria. The coveted TV markets the advertisers want are all in the current BCS system.
Reality is ... the MWC is kidding itself if it thinks that by having good teams it will automatically qualify for BCS inclusion. The BCS conferences encompass a solid majority of the FBS schools. Any further inclusion will decrease the returns by the existing BCS schools. (think back to the WAC 16 debacle and the financial reasons y'all cut loose from the WAC and you'll see exactly why the BCS schools have NO interest in including the MWC).
Reality is ... the BCS has no incentive to include more teams in the BCS.
Reality is ... the BCS was built with greed and cunning. They realized they needed the major TV markets and population centers. The conferences aligned with the BCS provide that criteria. The coveted TV markets the advertisers want are all in the current BCS system.
Reality is ... the MWC is kidding itself if it thinks that by having good teams it will automatically qualify for BCS inclusion. The BCS conferences encompass a solid majority of the FBS schools. Any further inclusion will decrease the returns by the existing BCS schools. (think back to the WAC 16 debacle and the financial reasons y'all cut loose from the WAC and you'll see exactly why the BCS schools have NO interest in including the MWC).
Reality is ... the BCS has no incentive to include more teams in the BCS.
smutz | 12:13 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
An astute and outstanding article. Football is a war on the gridiron. It takes
a herculean effort to go undefeated, and the least of foes can rise up and spoil
the parade. (Consider USC vs. Washington...) I suspect that BCS considerations
for the Utes and the Cougs will take an off the field miracle--which is not
coming. Still, the season has just begun, and a one loss year and a bowl game
victory would be nice.
BCS Reality 2 | 12:16 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
The MWC is not looking to be "added" to the BCS, but to replace the
Big East as a member. According to the BCS rules, that is up for consideration
in 2010. Last weekend was a set back, but the end of the road. The MWC is
still out performing the Big East and has a valid shot at replacing them in the
BCS in 2010...or stand by for a real lawsuit.
BCS Reality 2 | 12:18 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
should have read, "not" the end of the road.
cougar-am in az. | 12:27 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
It is sad to see the MWC go down in flames this past weekend. It is even sadder
to see both BYU and Utah lose. Maybe, this will bring a sense of reality and
urgency into those programs.
In the case of Utah's loss, it could not have happened to a better team. When fans seem to think that their team does everything to represent the conference, they seem to be sadly mistaken. One team does not make a conference!!!! A conference is made up of many teams and between them they determine what happens after the season ends.
Let's help ensure that both BYU and Utah do not have a repeat of last weeks losses. Remember guys, one game at a time. Let's root for all of our teams in the Mountain West Conference to be successful this weekend.
In the case of Utah's loss, it could not have happened to a better team. When fans seem to think that their team does everything to represent the conference, they seem to be sadly mistaken. One team does not make a conference!!!! A conference is made up of many teams and between them they determine what happens after the season ends.
Let's help ensure that both BYU and Utah do not have a repeat of last weeks losses. Remember guys, one game at a time. Let's root for all of our teams in the Mountain West Conference to be successful this weekend.
Hero of Canton | 12:52 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Don't go lumping the Utes in with the mess that is the TDS. We (as a team
and as fans) never once talked about another BCS run and certainly not a
National Championship or Heisman like the kitty kats.
Once again, a poorly researched article.
Once again, a poorly researched article.
badlandscougar | 1:25 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
noone went down in flames...the cougars and utes and the other mwc teams are
still playin' to win. go teams! we'll see how the one loss elite teams
go through the coming weeks and how espn et al stir the soup. go mwc!
AZ Dave | 3:32 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Reality is outside of Utah, no one cares about Utah and BYU. Sorry, but true
Thenit Picker | 5:02 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Mr. Harmon, I am confused how you could write this: "Reality is that BYU
played its best in beating Oklahoma." In the same article you seem to be
arguing that BYU can or will lose to anyone if they keep committing turnovers.
So, how can you say BYU played its best against OU when they committed 4
turnovers in that game? If they played their best, they wouldn't have had
any turnovers in that game.
MY REALITY | 6:00 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
I will not consider the BCS championship game a national championship until it
gives eveyone a fair chance to participate. They will tell you that a playoff
system is too demanding. Well NCAA basketball, hockey, wrestling and lacrosse
all have playoffs, are these not physically demanding sports.
All the other college divisions have a playoff. Why is it not too demanding for these athletes.
They are not concerned about a true national champion as all. They just want to keep non-BCS schools from having the ability to pay $4 million dollar coaches salaries, the best recruting and the finest facilities.
All the other college divisions have a playoff. Why is it not too demanding for these athletes.
They are not concerned about a true national champion as all. They just want to keep non-BCS schools from having the ability to pay $4 million dollar coaches salaries, the best recruting and the finest facilities.
BCS | 6:19 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
In every other sport in the world, teams ready themselves for the end of the
season and are usually much better by then. The BCS system kills the chance for
teams to comeback and show what they can do. half the teams in America after the
third week have no chance of a championship no matter how much they improve. The
system is against everything sports is about.
Skippy | 6:22 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Hey MWC fans, there is still the rest of the season. The MWC can still get more
respect.
Anonymous | 6:23 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Reality is the Mountainwest Conference is not very good. Average teams from BCS
conferences are a match for the best of the MWC. People who think BYU or Utah
have sixteen wins and one loss don't know how to count. Each team is 1-1,
having lost to a team that was, the week before beaten by someone else.
It seems a special syndrome unique to BYU fans to think their team is underappreciated no matter how bad it is.
It seems a special syndrome unique to BYU fans to think their team is underappreciated no matter how bad it is.
Mike | 6:33 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Come on Dick. Don't project your BYUness onto Ute fans. BYU fans were
ones running around talking about a BCS game two games into their season. Ute
fans have been there and done that and know how tough an undefeated season is.
Speed Bump or Brick Wall? | 7:13 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Did the MWC hit a speed bump or crash into a wall? Perhaps the elite
conferences do have faster better players.
The BCS schools have incredible resources. When recruits visit the big schools they can't help but be impressed. I've been through Texas's facilities and believe there are NFL teams that would be envious of UT's resources.
I don't believe that small MWC teams can compete year in and year out with the big boys.
The BCS schools have incredible resources. When recruits visit the big schools they can't help but be impressed. I've been through Texas's facilities and believe there are NFL teams that would be envious of UT's resources.
I don't believe that small MWC teams can compete year in and year out with the big boys.
Howard S. | 7:23 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
The reality is that be before last weekend, only BYU fans and the BYU hype
machine were talking about national championships and Heisman trophies.
Please don't reference the Utes in your articles. It's just creepy.
Please don't reference the Utes in your articles. It's just creepy.
Flatlander | 7:25 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Good article but in the long haul, BYU and Utah are not just victims but also
players. Arizona and Arizona state were in the WAC but jumped to another
conference (Pac 10) and were willing to play the "big boys" for better
bowl chances. They used to rule the WAC and BYU and Utah benefitted from not
playing them every year and became conference powers. They are reluctant to let
Boise State in the conference as it will make their wins harder to come by.
They have reformatted their confernce a couple of times but do not appear
willing to look to the Big 12 or other conference to jump to. Put BYU in the
Big 12 South and Utah in the big 12 North and let them take their chances.
Anonymous | 7:29 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
az dave, reality is that you read this article. sorry, but true. you obviously care.
True | 7:42 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Very good dose of reality with this article. As much as I emotionally enjoyed
the talk of national championships, I couldn't help thinking it was all way
premature and overblown. There's a reason we play the game.
And true words from "16 Wins," too.
And true words from "16 Wins," too.
Nice how... | 7:49 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Dick "Cougar Club" Harmon tries to lump these games into the same
boat. I guess that is what will make the embarrassment from Saturday sting a
little less for Cougar fans, Harmon included.
BYU has a senior QB, was playing at home where they claimed all week to be unbeatable, had jumped to #7 in the polls and were perfectly positioned for a Utah-like season with tough games at home all year, and had a team traveling cross-country to high altitude. They had everything going for them, and fell flat on their faces and embarrassed themselves and the MWC.
Utah was on the road against a decent Pac-10 team who is great at home, had their new QB playing his first real road game, wet weather, new coordinators who have not gotten into a rythum calling plays yet, and were the underdog going into the game.
Very rarely is college football an apples to apples comparison, and this is no different. Utah was not supposed to win Saturday, BYU was. BYU didn't show up and embarrassed themselves. Utah played terrible, fought hard, and had chances to win. Big difference Dick.
BYU has a senior QB, was playing at home where they claimed all week to be unbeatable, had jumped to #7 in the polls and were perfectly positioned for a Utah-like season with tough games at home all year, and had a team traveling cross-country to high altitude. They had everything going for them, and fell flat on their faces and embarrassed themselves and the MWC.
Utah was on the road against a decent Pac-10 team who is great at home, had their new QB playing his first real road game, wet weather, new coordinators who have not gotten into a rythum calling plays yet, and were the underdog going into the game.
Very rarely is college football an apples to apples comparison, and this is no different. Utah was not supposed to win Saturday, BYU was. BYU didn't show up and embarrassed themselves. Utah played terrible, fought hard, and had chances to win. Big difference Dick.
louslugger | 7:52 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Reality is that the inferiority complex that seems to grip Utah politics and
public persona extends to the Utes and the Cougers as well. The Media and
polititions seem to clamor over themselves to self-promote the VIRTUES of Utah
and it's above average citizens.
It's not good enough to put together a great season and bust the BCS, it's expected and anything else is a failure. It's not good enough to bust the BCS but we deserve a National Championship. (in fact, we will file a lawsuit if neccessery) In fact we deserve a heisman candidate too.
I have never seen anything like it since I moved here 3 years ago.
Reality is you speak of MWC representation but you really mean Utah and BYU. Who is rooting for TCU now to represent the MWC or are you hoping for a 1 loss miracle for your own team?
Your season isn't over, enjoy the games left.
Remember before the BCS when you were content to win your conference and go to a bowl game?
It's not good enough to put together a great season and bust the BCS, it's expected and anything else is a failure. It's not good enough to bust the BCS but we deserve a National Championship. (in fact, we will file a lawsuit if neccessery) In fact we deserve a heisman candidate too.
I have never seen anything like it since I moved here 3 years ago.
Reality is you speak of MWC representation but you really mean Utah and BYU. Who is rooting for TCU now to represent the MWC or are you hoping for a 1 loss miracle for your own team?
Your season isn't over, enjoy the games left.
Remember before the BCS when you were content to win your conference and go to a bowl game?
re: Hero of Canton | 7:53 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Your post is what Dick Harmon is talking about. Time to face reality, Ute fan.
The Real Reality | 7:54 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Is that the MWC will only field a BCS team about once or at the most twice every
20 years! To say that the MWC is a national power year in and year out is
nothing more than a big "JOKE". Same goes for the NCAA and Basketball.
If you don't believe me just look at the past 40 years closely and you will
get your answers and then just maybe then all of you dreamers came get a big
drink of "REALITY".
Thomas | 8:05 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Here's the deal. I have liked to BYU in the past, but I am always
disappointed by the way they play. The bottom line is that BYU turns over the
ball way too many times. Focus should be on excellence in each individual to
play his particular position (error free). I hate watching BYU play because
whenever they get a little of momentum, the next thing you know is that they
shoot themselves in the foot by a turnover. That has happened so often in the
past I just turn off the game and forget it for several weeks or years.
It's not worth getting all excited as they have some small success, just to
have them drop the ball, throw a pass directly into the hands of a defender, or
do some unsportsmanship penalt on the other team. Farewell BYU sports, I'll
focus my attention on some other team that really deep down inside, truly wants
to win, no matter what!
Stick to the cougars | 8:15 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Dick you really are wrong on this one. Not once did the Utes players, coaches,
administration or fans say that they were going to play for the National
Championship. Those crazy ideas belonged to all the cougar faithful. Please
stick to your byu homerism and leave the Utes out of it. We don't want you
commenting on the Utes as well.
Reality Mr. Harmon | 8:17 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
The truth is: it was byu and their fans hyping up BCS Bowls, National
Championships and Heisman trophies after ONE win. It wasn't the Ute fans
doing that.
zoobs are all about they hype and catch phrases, they're not about good defense and solid QB play.
zoobs are all about they hype and catch phrases, they're not about good defense and solid QB play.
Still red in PA | 8:17 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Reality is that the Utes and Cougars have gained some national credibility, the
"dead weight" of the rest of the conference (TCU excepted)
notwithstanding. An ACC team and a PAC 10 team moved into the rankings due to
victories over inferior teams? I have to agree with the quote by Switzer. The
facts are true even if his perception of the quality of traditional programs
versus the newcomers is jaded. I think both programs are experiencing pain
right now (Utah growing and Cougs re-emerging). I think the rest of the season
will go well for both programs.
CougarF@n | 8:18 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Reality is: BYU WILL GO TO A BCS GAME THIS YEAR AT 11-1 IF BSU AND HOUSTON LOSE.
I'm calling my shot because I get sick of people saying the BCS hopes are
over for BYU. I realize it's more likely than not that BSU wins out and
BYU's conference road is no cupcake, but while currently at 19-20, BYU is
still very much in the BCS picture if they win out. Victories over a ranked OU
team (back in the top 10 BTW) and a ranked TCU team with only one loss to a
ranked FSU team (not ranked at the time, but ranked prior to and after), will be
sufficient to vault BYU into a BCS game so long as Boise stumbles. BYU is a good
team and that will be apparent to everyone in about ten weeks.
But that all begins on Saturday against CSU.
GO COUGARS!
But that all begins on Saturday against CSU.
GO COUGARS!
RE: 16 Wins | 8:34 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Duh! The Utes unimpressivly have won 2 games against JV opponents and lost to a
middle of the road Oregon. Of course they'd drop from the rankings. Did
you expect them to stay at #2 after 3 less than average performances based
solely on last season's great team?
Reality is you're out of touch with reality!
Face it, the Utes and Cougars are both sub par when compared to TCU. The Horned Frogs now carry the torch for the MWC after you guys both let it burn you big time in games you both SHOULD have won.
TCU should have carried the torch last year as well. They skunked BYU and in all facets of the game (with the exception of a bone headed kicker who botched 2 opportunities to beat the Utes on their own field) outplayed Utah. No sour apples here, Utah won fair and square and went on to represent the MWC impressively in the Sugar Bowl. I'm just saying, this year TCU is your best hope for respect at this point in the MWC. The Utes and Cougars have fettered away that opportunity.
Reality is you're out of touch with reality!
Face it, the Utes and Cougars are both sub par when compared to TCU. The Horned Frogs now carry the torch for the MWC after you guys both let it burn you big time in games you both SHOULD have won.
TCU should have carried the torch last year as well. They skunked BYU and in all facets of the game (with the exception of a bone headed kicker who botched 2 opportunities to beat the Utes on their own field) outplayed Utah. No sour apples here, Utah won fair and square and went on to represent the MWC impressively in the Sugar Bowl. I'm just saying, this year TCU is your best hope for respect at this point in the MWC. The Utes and Cougars have fettered away that opportunity.
hhh | 8:49 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
lets go on. are we finish with the temper tantrums?
Levin | 8:56 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Congratulations to those Ute fans who have low expectations for your team and
have thus far had them met. I'm sure there is some satisfaction in not
being disappointed (further).
Meanwhile, I'm going to hope that my team can rise out of mediocrity, and wish that they didn't have games like this.
In 1996, the Cougars knocked off Texas A&M, blew out Arkansas State, and then lost to Washington. They then won the rest of their games, including a thrilling Cotton Bowl over Kansas State. Even BYU team can recover.
Meanwhile, I'm going to hope that my team can rise out of mediocrity, and wish that they didn't have games like this.
In 1996, the Cougars knocked off Texas A&M, blew out Arkansas State, and then lost to Washington. They then won the rest of their games, including a thrilling Cotton Bowl over Kansas State. Even BYU team can recover.
Anonymous | 8:56 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
good perspectives Dick
I didn't hear one coach or player talk about NC, BCS, etc. - it was just the media and fans (red ones and blue ones!)
I didn't hear one coach or player talk about NC, BCS, etc. - it was just the media and fans (red ones and blue ones!)
Anonymous | 9:02 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
BYU "got lucky"? Dick, that's pretty low. I think I understand
why Bronco isn't a great fan of the local press.
Darwin on Reality | 9:04 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Reality is that the Utes and Cougars have more vitriol for each other than any
rivalry I have ever known. UofU was founded by Brigham Young and BYU calls
themselves that. Just call it un-natural selection but you share more in common
with each other than you care to admit. A majority of students at both serve
missions, pay tithing and call themselves Christians. Darwin would be proud!
When the time clock runs out at the end of a game, the team that is ahead by 1
or 21 wins. Duh! You both have to get past TCU. Thats Texas Christian but
neither of you post as if you know what a Christian is. Maybe TCU can hand you
both a good Christian Whoopin. You deserve it. Good luck with that losers both
of U's.
Wow... | 9:06 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Mr. Dick is lumping Utah and BYU into the same sentence. Utah and BYU are
completely different teams this year. BYU has a seasoned coaching staff, QB,
etc. Face it, in order for BYU to win big games, they need 4-5 week
preparations. Hall, with 3-yrs starting QB still has lots to learn. After 3
years starting, it is amazing to see some of the picks he throws. Ridicuous! I
don't believe I have read an article yet where Ute fans talked about BCS
bust this year. We don't have the schedule to do so. We all know we have
new coordinators and players. This year schedule is perfect to challenge the
Ute and develop their confidenct and experience. However, they still played
competitive (with the exception of Q1) against Oregon, on the road. BYU flat
out stunk against FCS in their home turf. All the hype about BCS and heisman
from BYU followers was and is pre-mature.
Agreed | 9:09 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Undefeated seasons are extremely rare even for the best teams. Think of all the
great teams Utah and/or BYU have had, but only three undefeated seasons were
achieved between the two schools in 25 years - 1984, 2004, and 2008.
And only the 2004 Utes did it convincingly. The 1984 Cougars and the 2008 Utes needed luck more than once and got every break they needed.
Rare indeed.
And only the 2004 Utes did it convincingly. The 1984 Cougars and the 2008 Utes needed luck more than once and got every break they needed.
Rare indeed.
Jonny | 9:10 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Way to try and lump Utah in with this BCS, National Championship hype Dick to
cover up the embarassment of over-excited cougar fans and BYU media after the
first two games.
I don't think a single Utah fan was ignorant enough to think BCS or National Championship this year so stop trying to lump Utah in with the asonine talk of National CHampionship and BCS talk because there never was any from fans or media up on the hill.
I don't think a single Utah fan was ignorant enough to think BCS or National Championship this year so stop trying to lump Utah in with the asonine talk of National CHampionship and BCS talk because there never was any from fans or media up on the hill.
RE:CougarF@n | 9:11 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Ha Ha Ha Ha. What a laugh. Have you seen Boise's schedule? They
don't play anything better than a High School JV team the rest of the
season. Oregon was their "test". They're not going to lose.
Good luck with your theory. Should've told your Cougs that before they
embarrassed themselves on Saturday.
re: Levin | 9:13 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
You must really be getting used to disappointment then. Because it is always
Cougar fans/players/media who hype their team before the season, then after 1
good win.
This isn't about having high expectations. It's about being realistic and not overreacting. There is quite a difference between mediocrity and playing for a NC after winning game #1 of the season.
BYU had a very nice win over OU, finally beating a ranked team, and all Cougar fans could think of was playing in the BCS, or for a NC. No sense of reality.
Here's some advice. As the fan of a team who has crashed the BCS twice (Utah), take each game for what it is and don't overstate any of them. Utah had a great team last year, as they showed in the Sugar Bowl, but even that great team had close calls during the season. One game doesn't win you anything, it simply puts you in position to keep winning. That is something BYU fans/players/media need to pick up on.
FYI - The Utah loss to Oregon was very disappointing. Unlike BYU, they had a shot to win.
This isn't about having high expectations. It's about being realistic and not overreacting. There is quite a difference between mediocrity and playing for a NC after winning game #1 of the season.
BYU had a very nice win over OU, finally beating a ranked team, and all Cougar fans could think of was playing in the BCS, or for a NC. No sense of reality.
Here's some advice. As the fan of a team who has crashed the BCS twice (Utah), take each game for what it is and don't overstate any of them. Utah had a great team last year, as they showed in the Sugar Bowl, but even that great team had close calls during the season. One game doesn't win you anything, it simply puts you in position to keep winning. That is something BYU fans/players/media need to pick up on.
FYI - The Utah loss to Oregon was very disappointing. Unlike BYU, they had a shot to win.
Mike | 9:17 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Great article. I wish rankings were held off until early to mid October, then we
could all at least have an idea of what teams were made of. I hate preseason
rankings, but hey they have to sell a game somehow.
I think both Ute and Cougar fans have way to high of expectations. . .lower your expectations and you can enjoy the season a bit more.
I think both Ute and Cougar fans have way to high of expectations. . .lower your expectations and you can enjoy the season a bit more.
The Truth | 9:26 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Dick is now the voice of reason? He was the one leading the charge for BCS
dreams and now wants to appear to be rational. Dick the MWC is the sixth or
maybe seventh best league. They can win some big games, but overall any league
with Wyoming, UNLV, SDSU, New Mexico, AF, CSU can't be a power league.
Accept it Dick and try to educate your readers instead of cheerleading and
bashing the BCS. Let your whine age so it will become more valuable!
THE TRUTH
THE TRUTH
LaVar the Utah Cat | 9:34 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Wouldn't it be nice if Dick Harmon responded in an article tomorrow about
his BYU support and how he erroneously included Utah in the BCS and NC talk?
Honesty and reality from a DMN sports writer? I don't think so. . .
DRLL | 9:44 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Kind of an ironic article, Dick, since you were at the head of the bandwagon
suggesting BYU was in the National Title hunt after their first game. Remember
how, after the first freaking game of the season, you wrote that the powers that
be in college football were making a statement by moving BYU up so far in the
polls so that they would have a shot at the National Championship? And remember
how many of you zoobs called Kyle Whittingham sour grapes because he said that
any talk of a BCS game after the first game of the season was ridiculous? Kind
of seems silly now, doesn't it. Maybe you could admit you were wrong
instead of writing an article that acts like you were right all along.
to "AZ DAVE" | 9:52 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
Well, the reality is we are in UTAH so we do care about our Cougars and Utes,
just like you care about your Wildcats or Sun Devils. You make a lame comment
my friend.
TED | 9:54 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
The BCS setup is notjing more or less than human nature. Right here in the good
old state of Utah colleges and high schools are treated the same way as the MWC
is treated by the BCS. And this is by the very people that are gripping about
the BCS.
1F THERE WAS AN EIGHT TEAM PLAYOFF FOR THE BEST FOOTBALL TEAM IN THE STATE OF UTAH;I DON'T THINK A 10 AND 0 2A TEAM WOULD BE INVITED!
OR DO YOU THINK THE ADVERTISERS AROUND THE STATE WOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT MILLARD OR ENTERPRISE BEING IN THE MIX?
I'AM SORRY FOLKS BUT THE MWC IS THE MILLARDS AND ENTERPRISES OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL! BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT!
1F THERE WAS AN EIGHT TEAM PLAYOFF FOR THE BEST FOOTBALL TEAM IN THE STATE OF UTAH;I DON'T THINK A 10 AND 0 2A TEAM WOULD BE INVITED!
OR DO YOU THINK THE ADVERTISERS AROUND THE STATE WOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT MILLARD OR ENTERPRISE BEING IN THE MIX?
I'AM SORRY FOLKS BUT THE MWC IS THE MILLARDS AND ENTERPRISES OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL! BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT!
Reality is...... | 9:58 a.m. Sept. 22, 2009
The Reality is that BYU is going to THUMP the Utes in November. Oh, its so
on......
Lets see how good those utes are this year! BYU is going to destroy them. Bring it!
Lets see how good those utes are this year! BYU is going to destroy them. Bring it!
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