We are today, what we are. We can't blame anyone but ourselves. Hopefully we
will do better than what we did in week 3. At this time, we are a
very good mid-major team. My hope is that one year soon, maybe next year, we
will be a good major team.Remember last seasons whooping of UCLA
59-0? Remember how the rest of the 10-3 season went? Remember the TCU game
that followed? Remember the Utah game that followed? Remember the bowl game
that followed vs. the lowly Pac 10 team, Arizona?Well, our big game
this year was the Oklahoma game. We must wait to see if this year will be
better than last year. I hope so. Only time will tell.One last
thought; If our coaches planned and coached each game with the same time spent
and the same urgency, as they did last year for the UCLA game, and this year for
the Oklahoma game, the rest of the games for last year and this year, could have
made us a true team to be dwelt with in the BCS picture.
BYU, the Tin Man in the Wizard of OZ thinks you lack heart.
Maybe BYU would be more successful in a junk league like the WAC.
That loss was so bad, the descendants of Brigham Young should start a facebook
page to have the football team replaced.
"What goes around, comes around!" Ever heard of that expression? Guess BYU knows
how it feels to have 50+ points scored against you. At least Tulsa played ...the
Cougars just rolled over and purred! Come on, Cougars! Let's get back on track
and one BIG for the MWC!
Article quote: "The fleet-footed Seminoles started fast, scoring easily on their
first drive, marching 80 yards on a drive capped by a four-yard run by Jones.BYU responded on its ensuing possession, driving to the FSU 14, WHERE
WIDE RECEIVER O'NEILL CHAMBERS FUMBLED and Seminole defensive end Kevin McNeil
recovered.What followed was a 17-play, 86-yard TD drive that ate
8:19 off the clock that lifted FSU to a 13-0 advantage after a missed PAT early
in the second quarter."That fumble KILLED US!!!!!!!!!!!If you were to ask the BYU players how they felt after FSU scored first, and
did it so quickly, I bet you a hundred bucks they would say "suprised".Then, if you asked the BYU players how they felt after Chambers fumbled and
FSU scored AGAIN (particularly after a clock-chewing 8 minute 19 second drive) I
bet you a thousand bucks they'd say "shell shocked", as in, "afraid".WE GOT THE LIVING TAR BEAT OUT OF US BECAUSE WE GOT TOO BIG FOR OUR
BRITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Now, instead of having legitimate hopes of
perhaps playing for a national title we're back to being a laughing stock.
Speed and athleticism. I called this from the begining. Just like Steve Young
said, speed was the reason for the loss. I said that our o-line was fine for
slower teams like oklahoma, but i knew our defense would be shreded by this
speed. Steve Young said it as well after I did.
I'm a huge BYU fan, but frankly I'm disgusted in their performance. Where was
the agression and intensity of the first two games? Dude, you can't show up to
play FSU?! I'm sick of the stinking rebounding from losses! How about...don't
lose! How about act like you care! How about, handle national attention. The
defense looked like a bunch of human torpedoes without arms, and with velcro
attached to them. It's a curse to be a BYU fan, as it seems I have
set myself up for a lifetime of disappointment. However, I know I will continue
to carry on a diehard BYU fan...even if a consistently disappointed one. I
mean, wow...now you can try and win the conference so we can face the 28th best
team from the PAC-10 in the Vegas Bowl. Now there's something to look forward
to! Woo Hoo!
Bronco should polish his resume. He will be looking for a new job after this
Amazing the Hubris of some BYU fans, your season is over, over. You are now
synonymous with failure and making the conference look bad. Accept it.
BYU= Breeding Young Underachievers
This guy's name is Bronco? I wouldn't hire a MacDonald's assistant manager with
a name like that.
BYU fans, the season is OVER, stop whining and puts your heads back in the sand.
Looks like FSU's faked SAT tests really worked out against the balding BYU
This game was not as bad as the TCU game last year and it will not be the end of
our season. We are now 2 and one and most peolpe prediceted we would be 1 and
two, so we are doing just fine. CSU will be a tough game, so we need to get
ready. Homecoming against TCU will be a season maker or breaker. We saw the
offense look very good, but needs to limit the turn overs. Jamie Hill needs to
find some answers before TCU comes to town. Utah is rebuilding and we Zoobies
should give them some room to improve. USU almost came back against a poor TxA&M
team. Congrats to Washington.
As Autin COllie said, maybe if the Cougars "lived righteously on and off the
field" and had not celebrated on the Sabbath over OU, they would not have lost
That BYU loss was so bad, I am questioning my team loyalty and orientation.
I named my kids for famous BYU Cougars. That loss was so bad I am putting in the
paperwork to change little Lavell, Ty, Robbie, Steve and Cosmo's names today.
BYU needs to return to their high school roots and play high school teams.
The BYU loss was so bad it makes Ashley Simpson's Orange bowl singing live look
like a good idea.
Yewts must be trying to deflect attention away from an even more embarassing
loss. Beating Utah wasn't even good enough to move Oregon into the top 25. BYU
played a terrible game. We were not ready for FSU. Now we are ranked about
where we should be. We could still move up if we beat TCU. Unfortunately, when
we beat an unranked Utah team, we won't get any help in the polls.
Play Weber? We're trying not to be like Yewt.
Florida State played the way it's history has shown, more talent in florida than
any where. BYU was blown up beyond it's talent showed. Be glad it wasn't Forida
Gators or Miami. Three schools in the top 25 from one state says a lot. Refs
didn't play a down, BYU may be big in size averaging up 50 lbs per lineman
in weight obove the Noles, Florida State was a gaint killer. Size don't mean
squat. You need some throughbreds on the field.
I really hate saying this but Florida State came to LES to play football and we
didn't even bother tying our shoelaces. We tripped ourselves and have no one
but ourselves to blame. Misery loves company so we have Georgia, Utah and USC
to be miserable with. I'm surprised we didn't completely fall out of the top
20. We sure didn't play like we belonged there....But FSU did. At least TCU
and Boise State are still in the race with a surprising born again Houston for
a possible BCS bid. It's still very important that both the WAC and The MWC
continue to be the dominant anti BCS forces in this ugly beast of a system. It's
early and BYU has a unlikely long shot....but the ball in this game isn't round
and that fact alone makes anything possible. Now is the time for this team to
really find out for themselves what they are made of. Rise up or fall.Congrats to Steve Sarkisian for his first win as a head coach and may he have
many more. Nice job of leading the way back to Jake Locker also.
FSU used TCU's playbook from last year. We were beaten, but the coaches need to
rise to the challenge, especially on Defense and find a way to get around the
blocks. A swarm defense only works if someone makes a good hit, and the rest of
the team responds. FSU's blocking schemes were precise and the score reflects
SEC Saint | 3:55 p.m. Sept. 20, 2009To Anonymous: Think you could do any
better?Nope. But again I don't have to because I am not the
one on a free scholarship to play football and a stater. Any paying
customer has the right to complain about the product put on the field. I see no
problem with it.
We played terrible!! Ok that having been said and should come as no surprise to
anyone, lets move on. Yes, it wasn't our day, but other teams share that same
honor. OK, we got beat by more points than Utah did,but FSU is a better team
than Oregon. Things could have been different except for the 5 mistakes. And yes
the one "missed" call on the interception, that everyone, including the sports
annoucners saw. That is everyone except the officials. I'm not saying those
things would have given BYU victory, but they sure didn't help.We can
still win the conference, which is what BYU has always said is their goal. That
has not changed since the 60's. We dropped to 19th and can climb back up into
the top 10 if we can pull everything together. It was truly a sad day for UTAH
sports, neither team faired well. Good luck the rest of the season.
I think everyone is over reacting over this game. It is only a football game not
a matter of life and death. I think byu will come back next week and play very
well against csu. Everyone loves byu when they win,but when they lose everyone
hey, lets add BYU will still win the NC this year and that we need a playoff
system of 64 teams so we can prove that our 3 losses this season were all just
flukes and we really are the best!
"BYU would win 9 of ten vs FSU"???1. ARe you serious? YOu can't be
serious!!! They just lost by 26 points! Not close, Are all 10 of these games to
be played in Provo? Are we going to have a bye week right after FSU plays
Florida?2. the preposterous statement is irrelevant! We didn't win
on the day we played.3. The regular season is the playoffs. Do you
realize that no other sport is followed as avidly as cllege football? if the
Cougs had run the table they would be in - not just bcs but the big showdown
title game. BYU just lost its rights for the year to make any comment about a
Why do the BYU players seem like it was no big deal to lose. I do not see a
dispair in them. It's like they were playing a scrimage against themselfs and
just had a bad practice. This could have been a special year for all fans from
non bcs land and the players treated like any other day. Untill Bronco finds a
way to change the attitude bcs buster will never be in BYU's future and for a
fan in sec country that is sad to realize
Mendenhall and Anae blew this one. I think Holmoe will be looking long and hard
as to the future and leadership of this program. Something has got to change.
1.) Bronco is the best coach ever.2.) BYU is the best school ever.3.) It's okay if we loose games because we have a more important "mission"
that exempts us from the lowly mundane task others have to endure (such as doing
things without making excuses).4.) Max Hall will still be a Heisman
winner.5.) 1-4 might not be true.6.) #5 is true.
Reality bites the dogmatic fans again.
Irreguardless, Max Hall is still a leading contender for the Heisman. Go Max
don't let this little loss get in your head. There is still a Heisman and MWC
title out there with you name on it. Go COUGS.
The Cougars would win 9 out of 10 from FSU. That is a fact. FSU got lucky and
squeezed one out. The Cougars will back an I hate to see what they unleash on
the rest of the teams on the schedule. Go BYU, there is no doubt the MWC is your
BYU is still ranked 19th. A few breaks here and there and the BCS and even the
national championship game is not out of the question. Go Cougs, there is a lot
of season left.Lets get it straight right here, the Cougs beat
themselves, FSU was aweak opponent but it just happens some saturdays. All the
more reason for a playoff. In a playoff system there is no doubt the Cougs would
get to the big dance. Yes, they are just that dang good.
I don't think Max Hall is in Heisman contention any more. He had a decent shot
but Bronco's and Robert's game plan blew that out of the water.
Max still has the "turn-over" itis. That Utah game from last year is still in
I thought that the y would get wacked by OU. I was wrong, it just took an
unranked team to dash the y's dreams.Maybe the WAC would take you
back. You could learn to play with heart from the Aggies.
The coaching staff for BYU did a horrible job. What a let down. I am sure Tom
Holmoe has some tough choices to make in the coaching staff to get this team
back to the glory days of Lavell Edwards. In my own opinion I don't think Bronco
Mendenhall can get them to the promised land. A change(s) need to be made.
CSU looks good, TCU looks great, AFA and UNLV look good. I think all four of
those and BYU will beat Utah based on Utah's performance.
Way to go BSU. You showed that Utah has no place in the PAC-10 and probably
would not even fare well in the WAC.
Florida State is a very weak team. This does not boad well for the Cougs. It is
going to be a tough year and probably the last for Coach Mendenhall.
Bronco did the same thing last year against TCU. Two years in a row and two blow
out losses to weaker opponents to end what could have been undefeated (perhaps
BCS bowl) seasons. Bronco folds under pressure, it is obvious to get to the next
level a change has to be made.
Bronco has this program down the wrong road. We cannot be a top 10 team by
relying on LDS only athletes and the occasional non-member (who by the way are
mostly equal to FCS talent). As long as BYU takes this recruiting stance of only
LDS kids and does not attract quality non-members the program will never
improve. I think at this rate we are looking at intramural flag football in a
couple years as the program will surely be dropped if things don't change.
Sheesh, guys. Losing this game and dropping out of the top 10 doesn't mean we'll
have "another mediocre season". We haven't had a mediocre season in a long time.
These cougars make mistakes and they're not going to have a perfect season. Is
that really what we were expecting? Hoping, yes, but come on, let's be realistic
here. This is a really good team with a really good coach and a really good
quarterback. They will learn and do well. We got bushwhacked by a very fast,
well-prepared team. Better to have it happen now, out of conference, than to
have it occur via TCU or Utah. Go Cougars! We're still with you... always.
Bronco cannot win the big one when it counts. Either Bronco or Anae need to go;
perhaps both. It's time to make a change and get this program back on track. It
has been over ten years of mediocrity and as long as these two are at the helm I
do not see that changing. Poor game management and poor recruiting. Somethings
got to change!
This is all on Bronco. He needs to concentrate on football and not on firesides
or the honor code. Recruit and coach that is all we ask of you!
It was truly a sad day and disappointment to all. I also lost a lot of respect
for some fellow BYU fans and members of the Church over how they reacted to this
loss. I have never seen people act this way over a game.
Zoobies your problem rests squarley on Max Hall. It is conclusive he can not
play when the pressure is on. Now some of you will argue about Oklahoma but
nobody exected BYU to win so max had no pressure. Flat out he is a head case and
after yesterdays loss he is going to be worse... Zoobies if you don't bench him,
have fun with an 8 - 4 season.
The State of Utah doesn't know real football. The Utes and Cougars are mediocre
teams playing in a rinky dink league. Just be happy that you get an automatic
bid to the BCS if you finish in the top 12. That is a lucky gift. As for
Utah's "big" Sugar Bowl, that happens from time to time when the real team
doesn't even care to be there.
My hats off to Florida St. Great prep. great coaching ! great speed ! Great
fans !! [ at least the ones I talked with ]. The officiating was ok . FL. ST,
were just plain a better team yesterday ! As far as Ute fans saying there
embarrassed of us. K.M.A. FL. ST. Is a much better team than Oregon . So where
do any of you big mouths come off saying anything ! Cant wait for november ,
were still the better team ! Were now ranked where we belong and so are utes !
Why would Sarkisian go to BYU? He is at a PAC 10 school and just beat USC. He is
not leaving there for BYU. And he is a Catholic, not a Mormon. Another BYU fan
that two days ago though that Bronco could do no wrong, now throw the baby out
with the bathwater.
Save the money and contribute it to the Church. BYU football is just a waste of
church money and tithing. People wake up and realize there is something bigger
then football. Give it a break and spend time with your family on saturdays.
Contribute the money to tithing or a charity and your time to helping others
rather then watching or stressing over football. Give it a rest and a break. I
think BYU-I has a great model for athletics, I think the folks in Provo would do
very well to follow suit.
After this weekend I say BYU starts looking at Steve Sarkisian. He is impressive
young LDS man and a proven track record. He knows how to win and will carry on
the legacy that Coach Ewards left behind. Bronco has done a very capable job but
he will never get us above a 9 to 10 win season.
There was not much of a fence in our D-fence. What I saw was more of a gate,
swinging wide open at most every play. The linebackers were doing o.k., but the
line stunk it up all night. I couldn't believe how many times Fla St was facing
3rd and long and we couldn't stop them! They never had to punt until the end of
the 3rd quarter! Where were the hard hits we saw against OK and Tulane? There
was no energy. Yes, it was a royal beat down, but I expected us to be 2-1 at
this point anyway. =)Help us TCU. You're our only hope.
I think everyone should quit trashing byu. It is only a football game, and there
are better things you could be doin. So i hope you will all shut up.I
still like byu disappointed by the way they played.
don't go home until the final second ticks off the clocks, even when their team
LOSES. What a bunch of 'wah-wah' whiners!! "We were losing so I left the game",
"I was frustrated so I left the game", "I was so mad I had to turn it off" ...
you never see the fans of the true big time teams slinking early out of stadium,
even when their teams don't have a chance of coming out on top. Seems like a lot
of BYU's fans lack their own BCS-level commitment. (BYU '93 grad living in TX)
...we can focus on football again instead of worrying about the stupid BC$
bowls. Rankings are only trouble this early in the season!
I've never been more disappointed as a cougar fan. The game last night reminded
me of some of the beat downs we took in the crowton era. The last team we had
that was even somewhat legit was the '06 team when we had a senior QB John Beck
that actually played like a senior leader should play. His losses that year? A 3
point loss on a last second field goal in the opening week and an overtime loss
on the road against boston college. So much for a strong defense and a senior QB
in '09. Max Hall was better as a sophomore
Hard loss, their offensive line dominated us and their speed was incredible.
Still I love what Coach Mendenhall has done here and what this team is capable
of each week. I bet we turn it around and have a good year. No BCS busting, but
a good year. The players put their heart into this game and make a lot of
sacrafices just as the coaches do. I still proud to be a cougar and thankful
that I get to read about my team in the sports section instead of on the news
pages due to misconduct! Go Cougars beat the Rams!!!
No one that comments on these boards has a clue about the game of football. I
can't believe I am reading such hate-filled, ignorant, garbage...I swear it off
What's with all of this talk about firing Bronco and what not???? Hasn't he led
BYU to 3 straight 10 win seasons???? Haven't we gone to a bowl game every year
he has been the Head Coach????Haven't we won 2 conference championships with
him??? I don't see USC fans wanting to fire Carrel because they lost to
Washington. So just stop looking ahead, focus on the next game, and give the
team all of the support they deserve.
to anyone who comments about the officiating "helping FSU" there are missed
calls in every game, i wont dispute that there were some in this one, that
holding occurs on about EVERY play in EVERY game, and the fact that everyone
sees the other team's "dirty plays" and ignores their own. bottom line: All
teams commit uncalled penalties, but in this one? here were the stats on CALLED
penalties= BYU-3 for 24 yds....FSU? 9 for 74 yds.... thats a little lop-sided
eh? maybe FSU committed more penalties, but they sure as hell got called on em
To Anonymous: Think you could do any better?
As an FSU alumni and also a BYU fan (when not playing the Noles) I hope BYU
bounces back...But it was good to see that FSU might be for real
this season after all.
SEC Saint | 2:24 p.m. Sept. 20, 20097. Stop criticizing the players and
coaches and start looking in the mirror.I looked in the mirror
but then I thought wait a minute I wasn't the one throwing 3 INTs in a big game
it was Max Hall. Now, if my customer wants to criticize me for my work then
that's fine with me.
You're right Bronco is no Edwards. And everybody knows how stellar Edwards'
last years in Provo were right? And when did things start to go down-hill?
When the honor code violations started popping up. If the media coverage and
scrutiny were the same in the Edwards era as they are now, LaVell wouldn't even
have a team. Everybody knows how honor code violations were ignored under
Edwards. Bronco has mad the program what was always supposed to be and everyone
thought it was. Sure, there will still be honor code violations and academic
problems, but they will be dealt with, not swept under the rug.
Max Hall is quoted here saying, "This is tough. We knew we had a special chance
to do something." But did they really? Or was this all just a stack of cards
built of a lot of overblown hype on a foundation of one (good) win? I mean seriously, people (and I mean BYU fans and national sports pundits
alike) talked like the Y could just show up to games this year and win them
without a second thought. And yet isn't that why we play the game??
Also1. Bronco is a good coach. I have been impressed with him from
the beginning.2. Matt Hall is a good quarterback. 3. The quality
of athletes at BYU has improved.4. The quality of play will continue to
improve if the program continues to schedule tough opponents.5. I fully
support the values and mission of BYU - great athletes who share those values
can be recruited and it will make a difference. Character does count.6.
Like any program, the fan base and alumni can help or hinder the growth of the
program. Sounds like y'all have a choice to make.7. Stop criticizing the
players and coaches and start looking in the mirror.
I'm a BYU fan, but I'm disgusted with Bronco and Max every time they go on
college gameday and start talking about gaining national exposure, going to the
BCS, and winning a championship. How stupid! If Bronco is smart, he'll realize
that talking about the BCS is stupid. BYU should not have goals for the season.
Their only goal should be their opponent for the upcoming game. Whenever they
start listening to the media and starting to think they're good, they go out and
get embarrassed. Now Bronco and Max get to feel real good about themselves when
they go back and look at their interviews where they had those cheesy smiles
talking about winning a national championship after only two weeks in the
season. From now on, when asked about the BCS or the goals of the program, let
us say that we're not worried about the BCS. We're only worried about Colorado
State. That needs to be the focus. Hope you learn your lesson this time Bronco
Seminoles sipped on some good Cougar Stew last night. Nothing like being on the
chopping block. Better luck next time team.
Utah fans, I wanted you to win just like I want the mountain west teams to win.
sure you can bag on BYU but did you watch your own game? how many times did your
defense fall for the same play? BYU may not have played well this game, but they
have still played better then Utah has all season, and don't tell me it takes a
while for Utah to get going, just because of last year. Also who is ranked BYU
or Utah? You think because of one game BYU can't be a BCS buster, it does dampen
the chances but not impossible, there is still most of a season left
BYU and Utah got beat - so what. They played good teams and lost, particularly
in the case of BYU. The fans at BYU in particular are so spoiled. You win 10
to 11 games and think you should be playing in the national championship. In a tough conference, a team is considered good if they win 7 to 9
games, with at least 1 or 2 of those coming against ranked opponents. BYU one
their first game against a quality non-conference opponent since 1996 and your
expectations go sky high, you lose and Bronco should be fired, the team program
shut down, and you accuse the young men of playing without heart.Bronco and the team has my respect, a lot of national folks like them too.
This is just part of the growing pains that a team has to go through to improve
and take a place on the national stage. Going back and playing losers won't
help one bit.You may not like it, but this is a great opportunity
for BYU progam, better competition will produce fewer wins but a better team.
Stop whining, for heaven's sake!
What some of you bronco-lovers are forgetting (akin to sloan lovers, but I
digress) is that THIS WAS BYU'S chance AND THEY BLEW IT. The most important
game in 25 years and nobody showed up. Where's the emotional fire bronco
keeps talking about?There was nothing.
Its amazing to me that U fans continue to rip the Y so they can forget the fact
that their own team was also pathetic yesterday. Yes, the Y got
smoked and they looked pathetic. Let me remind the U fans of how fantastic your
team performed yesterday. You lost to a quarterback that threw 4/16. You lost to
an offense that was 3/14 on 3rd down conversions. You lost to a team that gave
up 3 fumbles and an interception. To top it all off, you lost to OREGON! Way to
capitalize! Nice coaching! Not to mention that you nearly got beat by a pathetic
San Jose St. Still, a win is a win just like a loss is a loss. Im
not about to deny the fact that the Y got slaughtered yesterday. They didnt even
compete and it was down right ugly. There is still a lot of football
to be played and a single loss is nothing to be ashamed of for either team. In the mean time, whatever it is you U fans are taking that creates
amnesia and hallucinations, keep taking it because it seems to make you feel
Man, I saw this coming a mile away. BYU got so ahead of themselves, just like
last year. The second they get some national attention their heads get too big.
That being said, I think Ute fans are so stupid. They get blasted by a way worse
team than florida state and here they are saying how BYU is an embarrassment? I
don't get it. Florida State should have beat a very good MIami team. BYU got
beat, but at least it wasn't by a team as bad as oregon. If I were a Ute, I
would be scared come November.
I dont get why everyone hates Bronco. Is 34 and 8 since 2006.Ranked in the final
top25 the last 3 years. he brought this program back to where it once was. As a
14 year old, i look up to this man. He mixes football and faith and he realizes
football isn't every thing. and every one who thinks BYU shouldn't even have an
athletics program needs to grow up too. BYU isnt as bad as you think they are.
YOU are confusing them with Utah State or something. I admitt BYU is a national
power, but with what they are given, they are a darn good football team.
Was yesterday the first game the BYU football program ever lost? Do you think
it will be the last? So GET OVER IT and move on with life. And if
you are a true BYU fan then stand behind your team win or lose.
Miracles happen only so often. 1984 was a fluke and yesterday, like the last 25
yrs, the reality. BYU is a second rate team in a second rate conference. Quit
whining and except what you are - a consistently 2nd rate football experience.
BCS and programs like BYU have nothing in common. Div II might be a better fit.
I love BYU with all my heart, but its funny to see some BYU fans giving up hope
in week three. Just last week we were chanting BCS and now some fans are giving
up after one loss. I admitt yesterday was a bad day for BYU. If BYU had the ball
as long as FSU, there is no doubt in my mind that they would have won this game.
I dont know what is going to happen the rest of the year, but I wouldn't give up
TED | 10:12 a.m. Sept. 20, 2009"Wow! the boards are filled with more angry
UTE fans again. The UTAH BYU game in November will still be for a BCS bid."I bet you're one of those fans that celebrated at the Provo airport
thinking you had the national title shot all wrapped?Reality is my
Utes are not even close to last years team. The BCS fat lady sang in San Jose
right after Utah looked inept in that game.So far Utah's new
coordinators have been horrible and BYU's defense came back to reality
Bronco ain't no Coach Edwards. It has been nothing but bad since Coach Edward
was forced out. There needs to be some changes in Prove and I mean for the
Both teams lost, get over it and move on, there's still 9 or 10 more games left
in the season. So neither one will go to a BCS game, move on from it and let the
teams play their hearts out the rest of the season and let the fans on both
sides cheer them on. BSU fans, go read your own articles in Idaho, we
don't need commentary from the peanut gallery. Utah and BYU fans, both
teams lost, leave it at that. Don't compare the losses, cause they were both bad
in their own respects. Grow up, this rivalry makes me feel like I'm in middle
school again sometimes; middle school was bad when I was there, I sure don't
want to relive that with the stupidity I hear from some people.
Where is the fire Brinco web site? He can't recruit outside of the LDS circles
and those he does get are I-AA telent. He has tainted the program with his
philosophy. BYU will never rise to the big boy under his leadership. There just
plain is not enough LDS talent to keep up with the big boys. He has painted
himself into a corner with the direction of the program.
I hope the church pulls the plug on the NCAA program. It is not Christ-like and
does little for the church. It is a waste of money and a point of contention for
BYU faithful. I prefer intermural programs and to put the money into the efforts
of the church.
I guess the truth hurts:-Bronco is all talk.-Max hall is not all
that great.-BYU's defense sucks.-BYU lacks the athleticism that BCS
Reading these comments is a complete waste of TIME! So many people either attack
or haven't a clue of what they are talking about!!!
The loss to Florida State isn't the embarrassment that Cougar fans are making it
out to be. If you watched the Miami-FSU game, it was pretty obvious that both
teams had some big offenses. That game could have gone either way, going down to
the final 5 seconds of the game. One single catch on any one of three different
possessions and FSU wins and comes into Provo undefeated. Last weeks squeaker
win over Jax was a fluke poor performance from them IMHO. Early on BYU had their
chances. FSU just came in with a lot of heart and perhaps not getting the
respect from BYU that they should have. No different from the way FSU approached
Jax last week. The Cougars will be OK this year. They at least now know what
they need to do and where other teams are going to try to attack them. Better to
find out now than in the last half of the season.
Last year instead of going to Hawaii we went to the TCU game. Yesterday I called
in sick and lost 1,500. dollars. We snuck into my wifes aunts house to watch VS.
Their mangey scruffy mutt barked at me for hours while BYU went down the tubes.
Burn me once, burn me twice. Oh, three times we also drove to the Vegas bowl.
They choke. When you're losing bad go after the QB! Also O'neill Chambers when
you make a catch and the 1st guy hits you, secure the ball and GO DOWN before
the next guy hits you and knocks the ball loose. I hope this doesn't kill the
team. It's taken its toll on me.
The difference between Utah and ByU is Utah was never really considered for a
bcs this year. It was all ByU talking about going to the bcs championship game
even though they hadn't beat anyone. That's right, you beat a back-up QB from a
team that might not win 8 games and a team considered to be in the top 10 worst
teams. You might be right in saying we would be 1-2 if the U played your
schedule, but at least our team capitalized on a senior QB by going undefeated
for the second time in less than 4 years. You get so excited when you win a big
game that's at the beginning of the season, but then your team forgets to play
the rest of the season. Therefore, you lose a game you shouldn't lose and now
all us Utes get to hear how if ByU still runs the table you might still have a
shot at going to a bcs, then you lose to TCU and Utah. The fact is we're both
2-1 and ByU continues their tradition - not going to a bcs again...
Will the real Cougars please stand up? The fans need to know if we're going to
see the Cougars that upset mighty Oklahoma, or the Cougars that played like a
Pop Warner team against FSU. Stay tuned.
BYU's loss yesterday was a big disappointment however it was not unexpected.
Last year BYU won a couple of games but then fell apart when opposing teams
discovered we had no defense and no response for a mobile quarterback. This
year BYU won a couple of games and now has lost exposing the same weakness. Each year I keep hoping that BYU will FINALLY have a dependable defense
- it never happens. Let's be honest - the offense is average, special teams are
poor and the defense is....well...Will I stop being a BYU fan - NO.
I'd rather root for the Cougars than root for the UTEs or someone else any day.
When I stop rooting for BYU I'll stop watching altogether.Coach
Mendehall is a good man - but as a coach he is very predictable. How many of us
know what is going to happen before it happens on each play - point made.Am I getting too old to hope that BYU will one day take the field and
play without the interceptions, penalties and fumbles? I hope not. I probably
am too old to ever hope they will have a defense.Join the crowd.....
Max continues to make huge mistakes when the game is on the line. If he was
only as good as he thinks he is.
Cougars, memo to recruiting office: you have no speed and average talent. Does
that help you understand why you got your butts handed to you?
I am disappointed by the performance by the (admittedly overrated) Utes on
Saturday but it was almost expected. New OC and DC with a host of new players
is problematic. MWC teams can't just reload like teams in power conferences.
This was supposed to be BYU's year to shine and build on what has been done by
Utah and BSU recently. They not only flopped, they were crushed by 26 points by
an unranked ACC opponent (to call them great only after they beat you is a bit
disingenuous). This loss will set the MWC back 5 years in national respect.
That said, I am GLAD they lost. BYU's arrogant fans believe their team deserves
everyone's support and anyone disagreeing is a "hater". Most Utah fans will
NEVER support BYU. We are tired of BYU's "greatness" being shoved down our
throats by local media. Utes have no duty to support BYU. You think Michigan
fans EVER cheer for OSU? Were Texas fans unhappy about OU's loss to BYU? No
way. I enjoy when Utah wins and BYU loses, that's what makes rivalries in
college football work, deal with it.
Utah played a tough schedule last year and went undefeated. At Michigan, Oregon
St., TCU, BYU, Alabama at the Sugar bowl. 3 tough second tier teams UNLV, at Air
Force, at New Mexico.Alabama went undefeated in the SEC regular
season. Oregon St. beat USC and was in line to win the Pac 10 until they
lost to rival Oregon. TCU was very good and finished top 10. So dont
LIE and say Utah cant handle the schedule of the BCS conference.2004
UTES also desrtoyed everyone on their schedule for another undefeated season BCS
win and top 10 finish!SCOREBOARD!!!
Wins over 0-3 Virginia and Texas State? Why in the WORLD would anyone think they
are a power? Thats even more insane than thinking Max Hall was a Heisman
Here is your problem Cougars...you have no speed, average talent, some of you
players are 24 years of age or more...total recipe for disaster. Get a
Have you looked at the results for the rest of BYU's sports programs Justin? You
might be looking at USU or even Weber.
Just crack me up. Throwing the Utes and Cougs under the bus for a bad week? You
guys realize both teams still have games left, right? Oh, and by the way, even
#3 USC went down this week. Drop the whining and blamestorming and play on!
why all the ute fans here? I just checked the comments on the ute / oregon game
- ONE freakin' comment, not 297 like this article. That's pathetic, what they
say is true...you are more BYU haters than ute fans - get a life!BYU never
said a thing about the BCS - it was the national media. Find one quote from BYU
team saying we are on track for the BCS - you can't! They got worked on
Defense for sure, offensively, they were fine until max started pressing in the
fourth. No excuses - they need to fix this. Good thing is there is a TON of
defensive talent coming in and on missions for the future. TCU is the team
to beat this year - utah is very unimpressive.
Gone are your chances for another back-door championship.
Look at it this way . .no matter how bad BYU or Utah looses, you're NOT Wyoming?
I mean, you gotta take some solace there! Being a Poke fan in Utah, with the
way they play ALL sports year in and year out is painful. At least you guys
have some winning seasons.
wow BYU this is what I had hoped you would'nt do, go in there thinking your the
big shots, and get your butt whooped, and Max Hall you need to learn to cope
under pressure man. Overall the most embarrassing game I have ever witnessed as
a BYU fan, and I expect BYU to drop to #20 at the best, they might even drop out
of the top twenty five after that performance. And every body thought BYU had a
great defense this year? Think again, they just let up 54 points at home against
a non ranked team. Come on Cougs get your act together.
Wow! the boards are filled with more angry UTE fans again. Both Utahs and BYUs
lose hert the mwc. Don't hate someone so bad that you can't be realistic!
Please, these comments are about hate, not football!The UTAH BYU
game in November will still be for a BCS bid.
Utah State 31 BYU 24 Just wait ans see!!
BYU has had 10 turnovers in the first three games! It's amazing they have even
won 2 games with those kind of numbers. The coaching staff needs to clean that
up. Last night was embarrassing.
The only aspect of this game that disappoints me is the fact that our defense
was so poorly prepared. FSU didn't beat the Cougars with speed. They beat the
Cougars because their offense was ready to play and BYU's defense wasn't. Incidentally, FSU's defense wasn't particularly good either. But the
were able to make a few stops before the third quarter ended. BYU stopped the
Seminoles once. At that point, one minute remained in the third.
After skimming the posts, MAN! You turned on your guys pretty quick! How do you
go from chanting "BCS" "ALL THE WAY"" stuff and get ran off the field. TO think
in one night the cougar fans have turned against themselves. HAHAHA
Atleast the Utes have somewhat of an excuse with a new developing Quarterback,
he will be fine. But come on cougs that was awful.
In college football, anything can happen on any given saturday. Thats why a
playoff is need. Because how many times have we seen teams with one loss in the
BCS Championship. 16 team playoff.
"...has not learned to overcome itself...""...been weighed,
measured..."Guess my typing ought to settle down, too.
Looks like BYU has been drinking the Kool-Aid of how good they are, this will
always get you beat. BYU spoke by winning at Oklahoma, beating Florida State
would have removed all doubt about how good BYU really is. The cougars need to
resume their winning ways and be ready for the next big game on the national
stage. Winning is everything if national respect is what is wanted.
Speed kills just like last year at TCU.
Or Bowden may have to take back his comments on how "mah-toor" BYU is.Bronco got snookered by a veteran. Utterly out-coached. Bowden said the game
was a measuring stick for his program. Turns out the yardstick was a foot shy.
Instead, Bronco finds out his guys have a lot farther to go, particularly on
defense.The Cougars couldn't do a thing with the Noles linemen,
appearing to get glued to them with Stick 'Em at every engagement.It's also clear that Max Hall tends to get flustered, forgetting his training
when his guys get down, forcing the ball into the wrong places.It's
so disappointing to find that BYU hasno learned to overcome itself in big games.
They have weighed, measured, and found wanting.
And the quest for perfection will be delayed until 2010.Both Utah
and BYU fans need to realize that perfect seasons are rare and seasons can be
"good" without perfection. If we look at seasons as failures because we fail to
win every game, there are going to be a lot of very disappointed people
practically every year.BYU will have a very successful season. They
may lose one more game and finish at 10-2 at worst. Utah is rebuilding, has a
tough MWC schedule, and could lose 2 or 3 more games. Still, 8-4 isn't
horrible.Fans need to lower their "expectations" a little.
You lost Saturday. You lost your game. You seem to have forgotton that admidst
your hatred for BYU.BYU had 2 big non-conference games this year.
They won a BIG game vs. Oklahoma.Utah only scheduled one
big-nonconference game this year. (Lousville is horrible, so I don't want to
hear that. I'd put Tulane against them.) They lost theirs.If
anyone set back the conference, it's Utah for losing their only decent
non-conference game.Way to go Utes.
I thought the most telling time at the Stadium was when there was a sponsored
"Big Hit" Play of the Game on the video board. They played the sponsor intro
and then... nothing...
how is it that utah shamed the conference? Its their first loss in 17 games.
The reason we are happy byu lost is because I should you don't see yankees fans
cheering for the red sox because it makes the divison look good,I bet Texas was
happy BYU beat Oklahoma.It's a rivalry we should hate each other.And don't
discount TCU either BYU and Utah are not this conferences only hopes. Maybe CSU
can hold the banner too.
I am a BYU and a Utah Fan that resides in Texas. I was hoping that Utah and BYU
would both win yesterday but it didn't happen. I still think that
Whittingham and Mendenhall are great coaches and that both teams have great
players. We all need to realize that on any day in college football any team
can win. Just ask USC.We need to stop vilifying the coaches and
players and just give the respect that they are due and hope for different
outcomes i the future.
How many years does Bronco still have on his contract? It could not end soon
enough! He certainly has proved to be no Lavell Edwards!
BYU is an NCAA joke. I vote for intermural only at the school and save the
millions that are put into not only football but all the other fruitless sports.
I believe this will happen in my lifetime.
BYU needs to refund all the $ spent on tickets and shut down the team.
Maybe some day BYU fans, players, coaches etc. will learn to quit talking about
BCS until at least 10 games into the season. When I watched FSU play Miami and
saw Ponder out-run the Miami defense I knew he would give us serious trouble.
The media needs to chill out too....they feed into it and get the fans even more
set up for a fall. And by the way, Utah play somebody decent before you start
talking smack. If you played our first three games you would maybe be 1-2. You
beat two bottom tier WAC teams and lost to an Oregon team that got dominated by
BSU. You're really looking good.
The only thing better than watching BYU lose is watching Notre Dame Lose. Too
bad only one of the two teams lost. BYU is the most "overrated" team in the
country. I do believe they are in the top 65. Keep Losing cougs and make me
happy. Oklahoma must be horrible or BYU is lucky.
Now back to reality. Sadly it took a loss. Our team can not keep our head out
of the clouds when they get national recognition. They need to find a way to
keep themselves grounded when they have recognition.Film sessions
with Max Hall must be watching every talk show that says he has a shot at the
Heisman and the team has a chance at the NC. Keep your feet on the ground. No
game is a given. When you walk on to the field, the 18 past wins at home give
you NO advantage for this game. Just play the game at hand. Don't think of
Why isn't anyone talking about the absurd mentality in Provo and around Cougar
nation? Great win against a seemingly solid OU team - I can appreciate that.
But, after one win, Cougar nation starts up the NC chants and Heisman hollers!!
Look at Hall's comments in this story - the coaches and the team
breed arrogance. Confidence and swagger is one thing (and completely necessary)
to be a winning football team. But pride will always bring you down. Get off your high horses Cougs and play some football!!!
Is Oklahoma that bad. BYU shouldn't even be in the top 25 with that loss. One
Note to Whittingham. When you have the ball on the 2 yard line, give the ball
Over rated!!!!! Ha just like the Cougars I've always known.. A lot of hype and
no substance. What an embarrasing performance...
The sevret to not losing fumbles is to hold the ball with two hands, that is a
fundamental apparently not taught to or learned by a wide receiver in a critical
turn over and by a lineman recieiving a kick off.
quote from JAN JORGENSEN. That is why they lost. He is the only man on the
team. Sad day for the Y. Come on guys. Live to fight another day. I am afraid
that this just another case of the Y not as good as they thought they were.
Florida State, especially its offense and QB, played very well. The FSU offense
was balanced and converted on third down. FSU scored on most of their drives,
which forced the BYU offense to be predictable and only pass in order to play
"catch-up". This game was not lost by Hall - his interceptions were due in
large part to being forced to score a lot of points caused by the BYU defense's
inability to stop FSU on third down. FSU's offense was just better than BYU's
defense last night.
Hey, Riley Nelson played. Maybe it is his chance to play more often now that
BYU's season is gone with the wind. Las Vegas Bowl is all I can think about
think about it,they didn't play that well against OU. OU practically gave them
the game with penalties. The real BYU showed up last night. They got smoked
by an unranked team. So did Utah. The real BYU and the real conference
BYWho? What a beautiful loss.
Hall made a couple of big mistakes, but most of them were after the game was out
of hand and BYU had to be one dimensional. This loss belongs entirely to the
BYU defense who failed to force a punt until a minute left in the third quarter.
Sure the ACC officials were letting FSU hold all day long, but BYU should have
been able to overcome that. It was like watching arena football the way FSU
worked over our D. Hall played excellent in the first three quarters and threw
the interceptions (excluding the pick-6) in desparation when FSU knew BYU could
no longer run the ball. If BYU gets even one stop in the first half and
Jorgenson doesn't fumble that meaningless kickoff return, then BYU would have
been tied at the half and the game plan for the second half would have been
completely different. I'm sure the Yewt haters will blame Hall, but they're
only showing that they know nothing about football. Not surprised. They probably
didn't notice their team blowing it in Oregon. See ya'll in November when Hall
will mop the floor with U.
What are all you insomiacs doing up in the middle of the night on the message
board talking about irrelevant BYU and Utah teams? What I saw on TV was
simply pathetic. Bobby Bowden and his people and his film analysis people
simply had the best game plan. Whoever is doing Bronco Mendenhall's pregame
analysis and film breakdown planning are just totally out of it. Fire them all.
BYU was exposed and sliced and diced. It was unbelievable. It just showed
what a farce all the early season rankings are all about.....NOTHING AT ALL.
What is the Mountain West Conference all about? Nothing at all. The local
press cannot get it either. BYU has lost everything in one loss. The rest of
the conference are laughing. Every game now will be an adventure. I feel
extremely sorry for the whole team and coaching staff. They were totally
unprepared for what happened. What is it going to be like in planning meetings
and on the practice field this week? This is BLACK SUNDAY for sure for all the
fans. What a downer. We were in the process of helping our son's family
move.WHAT A CROCK IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!
You know even great teams with storied traditions can lose, just look at USC and
Texas both ranked high last year lost to ok teams, even USC lost yesterday to
Washington. All I can say is that the cougs were not ready, offense was still
impressive but the defense had flaws that were exposed again.
Today was awful for both BYU and Utah and I find the haters absolutely pathetic.
You are not a fan of college football if you care more about your rival losing
than your own team winning. I'm not saying every Utah fan has to be a fan of
BYU, but this loss in particular hurts the entire MWC and so U make yourself
look like the fools U are when you get on here to talk smack. Utah's loss to an
Oregon team that got spanked by BSU basically guarantees a Boise State BCS berth
and didn't help the MWC either. Any Utah fan with half a brain was pulling for
BYU in this game (and vice-versa) so stop hating and get a life.
Utah and BYU have seen the Elite and MWC isn't them. Welcome back to reality
folks, the MWC is second tier and NOT part of the Big-10, PAC-10, SEC, ACC,
Big--12 for a reason.
reminds me of the 1980's when fsu was building a national power. hope we are
underdogs for the rest of our games this year!
Bobby Bowden said it best. BYU was not prepared. The Cougars will bounce back
and next year we will be prepared in Florida. You have to play the big games.
This will ultimately be good for the program. Keep your heads up.
I suppose I could stand all this except the TV makes us look so juvinile.
1. Congratulations to BYU to playing a non-conference schedule that actually
had some teeth. The fans may not like it, but it is the first step towards real
respectability.2. You just learned the lesson that teams who play tough
schedules knew all along - any team can play a great game, but it is the week in
week out toughness, speed, and physicality (especially on defenese) that makes a
champion. 3. This is a golden opportunity to become better if it is
taken.4. You just learned why fans around the country dislike you so
The older kids are beat by the younger kids once again...LOL
These posts are always insanely theraputic. Fans are just so comical as a
collective whole. Then there are those certain individuals ready to jump off the
ledge. I am a Ute fan who wanted both red and blue to win today. Nevertheless, I
have the desnews comments to give me solice. If things playout well on
Saturdays, I can bask in the hype and dream big. If not, I can embrace reality
and tell myself that I am better than those posting about the gloom and doom of
BYU football altogether.
The loss to FSU is not surprising. Bronco's defenses have always struggled
agaisnt mobile quarterbacks. Remember Washington last year? How long did it take
before the coaches made the proper adjustment and placed a "spy" on the QB? Mix
up the D! A little zone, man-zone, and man-to-man.Bronco said it
right, "we may have underestimated maybe what (Ponder) was capable of." Except
that there was no "may" or "maybe" about it. BYU obviously was not prepared.
Why? ask Bronco.Max Hall's performance was not surprising at all.
Max always forces balls into coverage, and struggles against fast defenses.
Three interceptions is no big surprise. That's just Max being Max. Stop forcing
the ball. Throw it away, and move on to the next play. Sometimes the D wins.
BYU needs to quit being suckerd into the media hype (BCS, national
champions, etc...) It starts with the leadership (coaching) and team captains.
If BYU ever wants to compete for a BCS birth, it has got to recruit
better athletes. BYU is undersized at the DB posisitions. How many lob passes
were thrown by FSU for big gains? BYU should be absolutely
Earlier someone mentioned about Bowden years of experience when it comes to
winning game as such the one played on tonight. Really, he pulled another trick
out of his old hat and no one has really paid attention to it. FSU played
Jacksonville St. on last week. Apparently not preparing for JSU and instead was
preparing for BYU the whole time, with unsuspected rain it almost cost the
Noles. However, the gamble paid off for FSU and pulled out a win in the last
minute of the game. As a Nole fan, I'm not sure where we go from here, but I'm
glad BYU was ranked #7. Don't be too hard on yourself, I think you still have a
descent team. Take it from a fan that has watch throughout the years an old man
that knows how to gamble and sure enough he gambled this one right!!! GO
Zoobs, maybe the "Target" won't be on your backs now. Way to call it Harmon,
the Zoobs are back, back to their choking ways
MWC fans are too busy hoping to BCS-bust, instead of winning football games. Too
much hype in the state of Utah about the BCS. Let's just admit, the are
officially two divisions at play here,the BCS and the Non-AQ division, where the
best, undefeated NAQ teams gets to play for some money against the BCS teams.
Why not just make it a three-tier system, BCS invites one NAQ team to a bowl,
NAQ invites on FCS team to a bowl. Sadly, Utah and BYU blew their chances
yesterday and the NAQ BSU beat another NAQ team. No,the WAC does not belong in
the BCS,but neither does the MWC it appears. TCU beat up on who? Texas State?
This is a sad state of affairs and Utah is a sad state.There should be a
ban on looking more than one week ahead.
Oklahoma lost to BYU, but the will be in a BCS bowl this winter. But BYU lost
to FSU and there season is as good as over. Utah will drop out of the top 25
after one loss. The BCS is unfair but Utah and BYU proved them right again
yesterday. Just sick of the fans here!
Where was BYU's defense? Looks like they did not practice all week. They
are not ready for anothernational title, even conference title. Worst
case would be a losing season. Blame should be placed onBYU's coaches for
not preparing them for the game.
look at all these byu fans earlier saturday morning they still thought there
team had a realistic shot at winning the national championship.. haha 24 hours
later they can't hate there team more. man you byu fans are the worst. byu =
To all the Fairweather Fans. You are pathetic. BYU loses to a very good FSU
team that played above themselves and you think BYU is horrible. Ute fans that hate BYU, where is the love? You lose to an injured Oregon team
and all you can do is laugh at BYU? I guess you need something else to think
about than your own team's sorry play today too. The MWC is still
stronger than the Big Easy and could beat over half of the Big 10 teams on any
given Saturday. Pick up your senses folks and cheer and root for each other
till you play your arch rival.
The visiting Aggies piled up 521 yards against Texas a&m. Don't
count them out against the Cougars this year. BYU should struggle
or lose to the following teams this year: USU, Utah, Air Force, UNLV, TCU and
Colorado State (next week). A 5-7 season for BYU is very possible. Lesson,
don't count your chickens before the eggs hatch.
I stayed up half the night to listen to this game streamed on KSL and I was sad
that BYU could not hang with FSU. But I am more shocked to read the comments
from BYU-haters disguised as Utah fans. I saw the box scores yesterday when the
mighty Utes lost to the lame ducks, but to read the smack about how bad BYU is
and how consistent Utah is... what a bunch of crap. Learn some respect and
humility! Utah shamed the state and the conference as much as BYU did. They both
should have won if you read the garbage printed here,in DN and in these comments
to articles. Utah,BYU, and the MWC got shown a lesson by the big boys yesterday
and they proved that the MWC does not belong. Your were supposed to show the BCS
otherwise, but the remaining games will not be enough now to correct what went
wrong yesterday. Both teams are overrated!
Neither team deserves to be in top 25 and the absurd talk about Max Hall and the
Heisman was too silly to mention.
come on, it's just one game. the cougars can still go 11-1 or 10-2, or whatever
it comes down to with a bowl. if every fan base gave up after their team lost
one game, there would be a whole lot of empty stadiums on saturdays in the fall.
just hang in there fans, it's one game, and sure, it would've been freaking HUGE
to win, but they didn't. it's not the first time they have lost a game. move on
to next week and keep cheering. this is what makes college football the best
sport, all the anticipation and dreaming. GO COUGARS!
For those of you tryng to claim the better team FSU or Oregon, let's look at the
rankings coming into Saturdays games. AP: Oregon 38, FSU 42. Coaches: FSU 33,
Oregon 35. Looks pretty even to me. BYU had the higher ranking, so its loss
appears to be the greater one. It would have been nice if both the Utes and
Cougars could have won. They didn't. Life goes on. "He who expects nothing is
You have a point! Utah fired a decent coach in Ron McBride because all he good
bring were decent, not excellent, seasons! Bronco Mendenhall, thanks for
lifting us out of the Crowton era, but when are we gonna see a few excellent
seasons, instead a bunch decent seasons where we beat up on patsies and struggle
against legitimate teams?
I didn't think fsu would win with that crappy d, but thats just like fsu. they
should have lost j state but they beat byu.fsu did play a perfect game.byu fans
you were so high before the game dont be so low after the game.
1. I did not spend $75.00 for a scalped ticket.2. Since nobody
watches Versus, very few people witnessed this circus.3. BYU fans
have their future Saturday's open.
BYU and Utah are both mediocre. Nothing special about them. Yes, BYU's offense
is fun to watch, but they can't defend against a mobile QB. Utah has no offense
at all.Lastly, who is BYU's defensive coordinator? And what was he
doing all week?
Utah went and lost to lousy Oregon team so not sure what the smack down is all
about. It's a loss and the sun will come out tomorrow. Get over yourselves.
Hey Utes, did you guys win today? Congrats on your #30 ranking. What's the
problem, was New Mexico State too busy to play? I love how utes always smother
their failures in cougar hatred. Go back to WAC. And that goatee, lame.
I'm a Ute fan, who was at Autzen stadium today. I've been to some loud games
before, but I've never seen at atmosphere like that. That place is so freakin
LOUD. Now, Utahs QB......horrible. Over threw players, hit his players in the
helmet instead of the chest. I thought if he could have played better, Utah had
a chance. Also, Asiata could not run the ball against that Defense. I attended
the post game coaches show with Chip Kelly (Oregon coach...spelling?), and he
said they were pretty sure they could shut down Utah's running game, and that's
what they focused on all week. Still they had a chance, and Cain under threw a
wide open receiver on the 2 yard line to end the game. I hope they have another
QB for next year, this guy has not looked good at all. He has a weak arm. You
could see none of his passes had any zip to them. Very depressing day. But, I
think we all knew Utah would have a down year this year. Atleast we did not get
HUMILIATED on National TV like the BYU. That was ugly.
I've been a National Champion. I know National Champions. National Champions
are friends of mine. BYU, you're no National Champion.
How do you spell B.Y.U.? Oh yah, C-H-O-K-E!
Why do BYU fans here still insist that Oregon is "a very mediocre" team?Oregon and Florida State are pretty much in the same boat. Both lost to
a good team and then struggled to beat a team they should easily have beaten.
By all measures going into today, Oregon and Florida State were teams just
outside the top 25. If anything, Oregon was slightly ahead of Florida State.
That will change with Florida State dominating the #7 team on the road, while
Oregon won a relatively close game against #16 at home.
For BYU to beat a team like FSU they have to play with ferocity and intensity.
The defense was not motivated today for whatever reason. Bowden's
team wanted it more.
When does Broncos contract come up for review?
The BYU win over OU will now rank no better than a I-AA team beating a
power-school--it will all be lost in time and not a big deal--BYU just got lucky
and caught them on a bad day. Thanks but the season is already done. I am now
thinking the Las Vegas bowl will be lucky. Very poor performance.
Isn't oit time for all you folks to get to bed for a long day at church
To loose Heisman contention and a BCS bid all in one night. I am thinking 8-5
at best. There have been better days at LES.
yeah my team lost today too - but I wasn't expecting us to go Undefeated
again... the Utes did have 16 wins in row....how many did the coogs have??Will they replay this game on kbyu?? I sure hope so.I love
that you can't ever do anything great!!! thank you for not disappointing me. I
hope you don't get too cold in Utah's shadow.Go Utes!!!
Good one. I remember my first time staying up past 11:00.
I was at the game tonight. It was clear that Florida State was the better team
tonight. Defensively we could not stop them in any measure at all. They had a
spectactular game plan against us, using the qb run and the underneath pass to
perfection. However, on a bright note, BYU moved the ball at will against
Florida State...until they decided to fumble or throw an interception. Let's hope that other teams don't look to closely at what Florida State did
tonight, or it could be along season of chasing qb's.
B.Y. Who. Its funny how all the so called experts out there favored BYU by a
bunch and didn't even give FLORIDA STATE the slightest chance of a upset. I
guess they forgot who they were playing. Stop blaming the refs and having all
the excuses. They just got beat down at home by a better team. Deal with it
and go on.
Boi-se STATE! Boi-se State!:P
BYU can still win the rest of their games and with a Boise State High School
loss we can still make it to a BCS game. WORD
Although I was saddened to see the loss by BYU and Utah today, I am having a
hard time understanding why the constant bashing of BSU. BSU has beaten the Mtn
West except for one in seventeen games (17-1 vs. Mtn. West). They dominated the
Oregon team that just beat Utah and they beat Fresno at home that pushed
Wisconsin to a double overtime (@WIS). All the things that you say about BSU is
what the rest of the conferences say about the Mtn West and it just drives you
crazy. How about not being hypocritical and throw some props to a team that has
won consistently over the last ten years.It only helps out the mid
majors by having a small conference school do well and go to a BCS. But I am
reading that you all believe that, only if it is your team. Grow up and realize
that BSU is a good program, and it does nothing to take away from the programs
in the Mtn. West, oh except when they play each other and 16 out of 17 times BSU
No Big 12 for you! We just proved it tonight. The MWC will be the best we can
do. It's OK, just a little sad. We had our chance. I wish the best to Bronco in
his future endevours.
FSU's loss to unranked Miami? Did you see Miami destroy Georgia Tech on
Thursday? If you did, you'd know Miami isn't an "unranked" type of team. Both
are top 20 teams for sure, maybe top 15.Regardless, they're both a
lot better than BYU.
with Utah last season and BYU this season is that BYU actually had a chance to
play in the National Championship game this year. Like that was ever going to
happen for the Utes - they were outsiders for way to long and we all now how the
BCS works.BYU jumped up so high because of the respect the Utes brought to
the MWC and because of a great win over OU. OU is a great team and we won.
Boom - time to be on the national stage. Also, and this is no fault of
the Utes, BYU's schedule this season is better than the Utes 08. If we won
today, the stage was set for a NC title game invite. There was reason for
excitement.I'm glad the Cougars play a decent non conference schedule this
year. The Utes did their best last year (Michigan having a poor season hurt the
Utes a bit but they scheduled a team that should have been a good opponent).
The Utes have ND next year - good. the MWC had a bad day but it's headed in the
I love reading all the comments about all the BYU bashing, There is one National
Champion each year, to be 2-1 and have the chance to win the Mountain West
Conference is a lot to play for. Sure I am disapointed, we all are, you win big
games and you loose big games. True champions are the guys who live clean lives
and look back at my time at BYU. Thanks BYU for giving us great memories and
many more good ones to come
Amazing. You read all these comments and compare them with the ones from the
previous two weeks, and it shows what a bunch of sore losers we are. Come on
guys, be the fans you were so impressed with at the OU game.
Bronco should start looking for a new job. He is no Coach Edwards.
BYU lost and proved they cannot consistently compete on a national level. End of
story. You should all go to bed. There will be nothing more than intermural
athletics at BYU within the decade so you all got to get used to that.
It's always a good day when BYU loses. When BYU loses big, it's a great day.
Yes, the utes did lose, however we knew that the Utes were going to take a step
back this year, (when you lose that many people you usually do).BYU fans
were the ones who were talking about the bcs title game and how great they
are.Ute fans aren't devastated, they know they will be back to bcs
contention in a few years.Right now just trying to have fun and win.At least Ute fans have realistic views of their team.
Just for the record Boise State tried to get into the MWC a few years ago but
were denied. I realize that the WAC isn't the strongest conference in the
country but there is nothing that we can do about the conference schedule.
However, we have played some people in years past and will play some better
teams next year. We play Va Tech on the road and have Oregon State at home.
Also when we scheduled Miami Ohio, and Bowling Green they were much better than
they are now. As I recall a few years ago we punked Utah and beat BYU two years
in a row. I think Boise State is 11-1 all time against the MWC with our one
loss coming to a very good TCU team. Give the Broncos some props cougs, at
least they live up to the "hype"! Sorry Utes and Cougs, not a good day for you.
Congrats to Utah though on a great win streak, you have a quality program.
Cougs, congrats on accomplishing mediocrity for another year. Nice showing.
but no one listened. OU looked like a pee wee team and if played again OU by 21
or more. Utah is average at best this season and were last year until the last
two games of the season. I told everyone that FSU was going to give BYU
trouble. I thought that FSU by 14 but wow. Now people do you realize that the
MWC is not that good. TCU is your best team and they wouldn't finish in the top
3 or 4 in the big 12. BYU and Utah got exposed and you have got to love it
because of all the fans talking like BYU and Utah are unbeatable. I'm a fan of
a out of state team that is ranked number #2 in the country and right now not
sure if we are playing that way. I know each week we could be beat so I don't
talk all the smack that BYU or Utah does after 2 games. How can you talk about
a NC after 2 games. Watching the OU game you could see OU played bad and BYU
shouldn't have jumped so high.
I am cheering for any team that can bust the BCS. BYU had my hopes really high.
This is disappointing. After today, I am left with cheering for Boise St and
TCU.BYU will have to play for a trip to the Las Vegas bowl.
I'm a Ute fan who has been watching both the Utes and Cougars for decades. With
all due respect, I was very suprised by the build up of hype after the BYU win
over Oklahoma. It seemed to come primarily from the local media, but also fans
and even some players. Perhaps Utah benefited last year from being unranked to
start the season, and pretty much a stealth team until fairly late in the
season. You've got to prove it one game and one day at a time. No one should
ever be crowing about BCS and titles on after winning only two games. That's
K - for all of you who can't comprehend. BYU knocked Bradford out of the game
because they beat OU's O=Line. "if Bradford played the second half" is
irrelevant = he didn't thats part of the game
Very, very funny. I especially like "We're better than you and we
know it!" With that, good night.
Aw heck! This game was one of those outlier thingies I learned in STAT. The
rest of the season is back on the trendline created by the first two data points
of the season. Just watch and see.
Turnovers hurt BYU. BYU should have been better prepared, but all MWC fans
should support all their schools. It shouldn't be just Utah or BYU or TCU. All
fans should support the MWC teams!
I guess the Lord was watching the ND-MSU game today? I gotta tell you BYU gets
now respect, even from above.
the Utes are still the best team in Utah and tonight embarrassing lost of BYU
proves that hahahahaha
Signaling the charge? What are they doing? Is this the latest
gimmick/mantra/whatever? Just play football. Come out on the field, don't act
like you're in a movie or you're in the scriptures. Just come out like everybody
else and play football........ and don't do the haka. (Which I guess is now just
after victories which doesn't make sense given the real purpose of the haka
which doesn't really matter because they lost and forgive the run-on sentence)
BSU "destroyed" Oregon?? No, BYU got DESTROYED, not Oregon. FSU is not ranked
so don't come on here and talk about how good they are...great example of BYU
spin. BYU WAS #7 and GOT OWNED by an unranked team.End of Story.
Tulsa is knocking...
"The best defense in y... ooohh flip!"
BYU threads must be your comfort blanket, it is obvious that the only way to
find any comfort in the ute loss is rip on BYU to make yourselves feel good
about your inter self. Truly and utterly pathetic losers.
Yeah, check the polls... then come back and write something intelligent!
Hey Zoobs, Didn't I tell you in my last several posts? You people never learn...
My gramps used to say that empty barrels make the most noise. That describes
zoob fans to a T. Like I said you just got lucky. Thanks for making my weekend
great. Can't wait until TCU takes you a part.
Now that's the team I knew we had. It went away for a little bit, but it made a
comeback in a mighty way tonight. Now we can all get back to being big
fish in a little pond, instead of trying to pretend like we could play with the
big boys. Silly, silly. I love BYU - but let's be realistic. Because of
the way we recruit, we are never going to have the athletes necessary to compete
consistently at the BCS level. Just ain't going to happen. Maybe for Utah and
TCU, but not BYU. Nice try, everyone, suck it up and win a close one next
week with CSU.
Very happy BYU lost! Can't stand Max Hall. BYU is definetly OVERRATED! More TALK
and NO ACTION! I think the cougars should ONLY play the NCAA II division schools
...that will keep the cougar fan's mouth zipped. GO WASHINGTON HUSKIES! By the
way, I'm LDS, but not a BYU FOOTBALL/BASKETBALL fan. Love the BYU
RUGBY/VOLLEYBALL teams though. Jake Heaps, change your mind and sign up for the
went 0-3 today. hum, maybe I should jump off his ship, I mean obviously all his
HR's and hits from other days are now ruined. In fact I might call him up and
let him know he is a disgrace to MLB and the small town of STL and that he
should never try to be on the same stage as NYY.On second thought,
To all those BYU fans screaming Utah looked as bad against a worse team:Florida State needed two scores in the final 35 seconds last Saturday to
avoid arguably one of the most embarrassing (home) upsets in school history: FSU
19 JVST 9.FSU is good but no way are they a great team. But I agree
Oregon is absolutely horrible.Utah looks bad as well but I would NOT
trade Cain for Max Hall any day. Nor our weak defense for your slow,
non-athletic defense.TCU will destroy BYU next and CSU will put up
big numbers next week.
Well, now that BYU, Utah and Utah State are all out of the running for the fake
FBS national championship, why don't you all jump on Weber State's bandwagon?
The Wildcats made the playoffs last year in the FCS and are contenders for this
year's national championship... one that will actually be awarded after a real
postseason playoff.... Tonight's result... Weber State 44, Idaho State 17....
only team in the state to win.
"Ute fans laughing and ridiculing BYU on discussion boards." Yeah, and BYU fans
do absolutely nothing to bring it on themselves, right? WRONG! Stand up and
take responsibility for the rude and inane comments that come from the BYU
corner. You dish it our, you're gonna have to take it and buddy, it's coming
because you guys have destroyed every ounce of respect our conference had.
When was the last time Tebow was down by more than 2 scores? "Heisman" type QBs
get "come from behind" wins because their defense keeps them in the game. No
chance of that tonight. Defense wins! End of story. Utah's defense last year was
amazing, thats why they won. Max and their offense is good enough to score on
anyone. But scoring is useless if there is no defense. BYU's "un-success" has
come from a lack of consistent defense. I think it comes down to coaching and
getting these guys prepared. Mendenhall breeds arrogance.
GOT SCRAPED!!!!!!!!!Vegas Bowl again!So much
for BSC-busting hype and any remote aspirations of national-title
. . . there goes the air out of the BSC balloon.
Utah will be destroyed when they come visit the LES.
Sorry for the tough loss at home cougs. But what is it with these lame t-shirt
slogans that are printed every year????? It's like the coaches spend more time
thinking of new things to put on t-shirts than planning for football games. As
soon as the new shirts hit the stores all the zoobs flock in there like a bunch
of cattle and buy them. And I still see people wearing those ridiculous "Quest"
shirts. Quite an embarrassing fan base in my opinion. Who would actually spend
money on those.....New ideas for BYU's t-shirts "Hall is really
cool!" "We're better than you and we know it!" "I'm with stupid" "I miss 1984" "You're EVIL if you don't like BYU!"
I look forwad to the day BSU gets into the MWC to play all you guys year in year
Yeah... BYU is not going to loose 6 games. TCU maybe - if they play like today.
If they play like they did against OU, the Cougars could win out. 3 losses
max. BYU will be ranked at the end of the year and I'm glad they played FSU.
When you play teams that are good you get the chance to be in the NC mix (to
stay we have to win). That said, playing San Jose State HS doesn't help the
National respect thing.
Don't know who is more embarrassed- the cougs or the OU coaching staff.
The difference between Utah and BYU is that BYU was supposed to be stacked this
year and Utah totally has a new offense (besides Asiata and a couple linemen)The defense for Utah returned a lot of guys (except our best player and
the two corners, who are focal points of the defense) but they can't win games
unless the offense helps them out a little bit...As a Utah fan, I
gotta say I didn't see a perfect season coming at all...I hoped for it, but the
expectations certainly were not as high and any Utah fan that tells you they
expected it is lying through their teeth...In fact, everyone saw a loss coming,
as Utah was actually the underdog in Vegas today...This was supposed
to be BYU's year, and after beating Oklahoma (minus Sam Bradford in the second
half and I guarantee he would have made a difference) they had the perfect
chance to run the table as long as they didn't have a letdown...But the favored
Cougars were dismantled, which ruins all expectations that Cougar fans always
hype up for their team...Hopefully they have learned their lesson
BYU fan for life, and disappointed at the defeat. Remember , some schools are
still committed to a purpose other than a football team. Navy, Army, AF,
Stanford, NW, WF,Vandy and BYU. All D-I schools that will never play on the big
stage.Athletes?, speed?, Ref's, Hall..any other rants? One should
be be proud of the schools at a recruiting disadvantage. Water down the
recruiting for a moment of glory? Your choice not mine, Have twins that are
great RB's in HS. Their/My choice is Stanford or Ivy League. I was
once was offered a chance with Army, not as a football player, but an Army
Medic. I took the offer.
now I can go to bed and sleep well
When Anae ran up the middle twice down by 20. What purpose did that have?
wow back down to reality again, the defense of last year reared its ugly head
tonight. BYU better find more speed on defense, the defense is killing this
teams chances of being an elite team. The offense is fine and can move the ball
on any team but when defense is getting carved up like BYU's did tonight, that
just puts the offense in a bad situation of trying to play come back and they
start pressing which leads to turnovers. Get the defense fixed Bronco I am
tired of watching these speedy offenses march up and down the field with ease
and completely embarass the defenses and please teach them how to tackle the
tackling was pathetic tonight!
GET A FREAKIN' CLUE!You lost today - I don't care if your QB is a
newbie, a loss is a loss! Why you are writing trash is beyond comprehension.
Seriously, win your own freakin game then talk trash. Dont talk trash when you
loss to a team BSu destroyed!!!
We're all brothers. Lets pull together and win a national championship- what do
Gotta give it up to former Coug Steve Sarkisian. Although I did already consider
USC overrated this year -making the Cougar's loss cut all the deeper, when they
lost- what Sark's fellas did today was HUGE!Taking a winless team
and beating the undisputed heavyweight in the conference is commendable, at the
least. Nice job, purple!
BYU, is it too much to ask that you keep things respectable?
I guess all those BYU BCS shirts will now have to be given to charity, then
again, don't punish the needy for BYU's poor defense.
Wow, I can't believe how snobby the Ute fans are being after their pathetic loss
today to a team ranked about #100 in every offensive/defensive category. Was the
BYU loss pathetic? Yes. But so was yours. So really neither of us has much to
talk about right now.
Cheer up | 8:45 p.m. Sept. 19, 2009Yes, BYU is no longer ranked 7th. I
don't think they will play any teams like Florida State for the rest of the
season.-----------One team comes to mind with speed and BETTER
Hey Boise State Fans , Get a real schedule before you brag or disrespect anyone
Dude, if you need to use a calculator to figure out a 26 point margin - I don't
know what to say... take a 7th grade math test.And as far as
intellect goes let me figure this out... you're saying that Oregon and FSU are
the same talent wise? I mean, just because Oregon got the snot kicked out of
them by Boise St. doesn't mean they can compete with FSU. Fairly simple logic
there...Was today's loss devastating? Duh! Is the Ute program
anywhere near where it was last year? Not even close. Are the Cougs a better
team at this point in the season than the Utes? Yep.
"FSU is still a very good team (not just good - very good, borderline great)."
Apparently, you did not see their loss to un-ranked Miami. FSU is very
beatable. Please do not put a BYU spin on this game and then start talking like
BYU is going to the BCS.
This was a bad loss all around. Utah has represented the conference well these
recent years. By losing this game, it just justifies the BCS. Way to represent
BYU. Everytime any Coug fans want to call up K Fan and complain that BYU gets
no love and the BCS is unfair, just think of this game! Way to bring it Cougs.
Stick to letting New Mexico, Wyoming and Air Force come to Lavell Edwards
stadium. When a real team comes, this is how you perform. Another choke job by
Max Hall. Another game that Bronco was out coached. Just a big joke! BYU is
not a big dog, they sure would like to think so....
The Mountain West Conference was exposed today -- Utah looked bad against
Oregon; BYU didn't show up against Florida State, both offensively and
defensively, plus kickoffs; Wyoming was defeated by the powerhouse, Colorado;
and last and maybe least was the thorough massacre of San Diego by Idaho, who
lost earlier to Oklahoma 63 to Zip. (I haven't checked about which San Diego
team this was. I hope that it was a local high school and not the member of the
Mtn West.)Nationally, this was a dark and dreary day. Now all that is left
is in-state bragging rights. Boise State is the slighted leagues only hope, but
even then Boise didn't look that strong defensively against Fresno State. I
haven't seen what happened to TCU, the Mountain West's last chance -- I hope
What is in your kool-aid? I think a sell out LES would like to have some.
It won't be a fast Sunday tomorrow . . it'll be the slowest three hours of my
Awww, fetch! We friggin' lost! I'm goin' to go to Macey's tomorrow and buy the
biggest container of Rocky Road ice cream I can find and drown my sorrows! Hey
. .wait a minute . . .
I think you're missing a couple of points, Ralph. It isn't that BYU lost to a
team with superior talent...the problem is the #7 team lost to a team that is
not ranked, and LOST BIG, and lost AT HOME.Don't minimize the
importance of what has happened this evening. BYU has set the conference back
several years. BYU did it, BYU is responsible for doing it, BYU will pay the
price in their national ranking and post season play, and the MWC will pay the
price in national respect of several years to come. THAT, Ralph, is
Where as I am disappointed that my Utes lost today. I'm glad it wasn't as bad
as the Coug's loss. I would rather lose on the road in a place considered to be
the loudest and maybe the toughest place to play, than slaughtered on my own
turf. At least now we don't have to hear the NC and heismen talk anymore.
At least not for a while. Why oh why do you cougs always over-hype your seasons
before they even start or get far enough into it to really be tested? Go
Utes!! Let's start a new win streak.
Speed kills. THe Oklahoma game was an aberation because Bradford was out and
Stoops obviously did NO game film prep. I mean, BYU will have their way
against non-athletic teams who can't play man to man. But BYU will play victiim
to anybody with speed. TCU has the same make-up as FSU. ANd FSU ALMOST LOST TO
JACKSONVILLE STATE last week, and only scored one offensive TD against a DII
team!!So TCU will do what FSU did, but their D will be better.Play man, press, and it's only a matter of time before Hall makes some
big mistakes. And if you have speed, forget passing. Just run all over that
pathetic running D of BYU's, and then mix in a bomb once in a while to keep the
DBs honest. If you have WRs taller than 6', you'll score through the air as
well.Horrible defense, BYU. Horrible.
You fair weather fans and armchair QBs disgust me. grow up and get a life.
This was NOT an ACC officiating crew. They were member of the CFOA (College
Football Officials Association), made up of officials from Conference USA, WAC,
and Mountain West officials. Stop balming the REFS for BYU's lack of
prepairdness. FSU played an almost perfect game. BYU was not ready!!!
When the score is long forgotten, the memories of good sportsmanship will live
Gosh.. and just when things were looking so good and fun too.
to a legend in coaching than a first year former underling like Sarkesian.
Better to lose to a FSU team that looked every part of the old FSU than an
Oregon team that looked like high schoolers. Not so good to lose to a team at
the homecoming after two fairly big wins. Not a good welcome for the homers.
Byu falls to 18, FSU breaks top 20. Oregon still won't get a point. BYU still
better than UT, this year.
Looks like the MWC is doomed for "no respect" from the other major conferences
for the next few years...
It's a great day in college football when all three Utah programs go down! Go
Congratulations BYU, you now hold another record...the worst loss by a top 10
team to an un-ranked team. I literally went out and burned my brand new BYU
Yep, same old story. Utah goes down, BYU goes down; and then their respective
haters come out from under their slimy rocks to gloat. Anonymous blog jackals.
Why is it that BYU fans and others rally like crazy when they do well, and drop
them like poison when they lose one game?!!!I don't understand.If we
did that to each other each time we messed up -- what an awful world this would
be.What an awful feeling it must be to have fair-weather fans when you
thought that they were true blue. How awful to be mocked and put down by not
only your rivals, but your own school's alumni?!!!How many of us were
perfect as college students -- made no mistakes, prepared for every test without
distraction, passed every test every time??? How many of us can say we are
perfect now? Maybe its not just the team that needs to prove itself, but it's
fans as well!!!
A team FULL of slow, unathetic returned missionaries playing against a team of
NFL caliber athletes from Florida State. You see the result. 54 points given up
AT HOME. That's not a loss - that's a total mismatch that will keep BYU out of
the top 25 for a long long time. Bronco's RECRUITING has just been exposed for
ALL TO SEE and I maintain BYU will NEVER win against another ranked team until
they recruit some size on defense along with some athletes. Returned
missionaries are great for fire sides but this is FOOTBALL - NOT intramurals.
Somebody tell Bronco.
You ute fans are lame. BYU lost and lost big but you lost as well. I was hoping
Utah would win but im getting to the point were I may start to enjoy cheering
against you. I know there are idiots on both sides but your side has more. You
will always find way more Ute fans laughing and ridiculing BYU on discussion
boards. I heard tons of Utah fans talking about bcs busting this year as well.
You Ute fans are just as delusional as some BYU fans. So get over feeling good
about yourself only when BYU looses. Ha ha is unhealthy!
Overall, a horrible day for the U and the MWC. A loss to Oregon on the road
hurts, the Y getting crushed at home kills.
I've been looking at the stories posted this week about BYU and reviewing the
comments posted by BYU fans. With the benefit of hind sight, it's great
reading, check it out.You people are the BEST!!
BYU,Welcome to your long, slow slide into mediocrity.
Max is a play maker and you simple minded BYU fans ought to be darn glad you
have him. The problem ISN'T Max Hall the problem is a new O-line that got it's
head handed to it today by a REAL BCS conference team along with a pathetic
defense that Bronco just doesn't seem to understand how to recruit. Utah and TCU
have size and strength on defense that allows them to compete against anybody
but BYU doesn't.
I was at another HS sporting event today marvelling at all the BYU garb on
display. "Quest" shirts (I thought we shipped all those to Somalia last year
after the first loss???), and a variety of navy blue on top of culottes and cap
sleeves. It is going back into the closet.
re: Anonymous at 8:10 | 8:30 p.m. Sept. 19, 2009You can't be serious if
you've comparing that Florida St. team to Oregon. Oregon was one of the worst
looking offensive teams I've seen in years.UTAH embarassed the conference
just as bad as BYU todya.--------------Just a friendly
reminder we, the Utes, were talking about national title after the post season
and 13-0 you were talking titles and Heisman after ONE game.Utah was
horrible against a bad mediocre team on the road yet still had a shot at winning
the game. BYU on the other hand were done by the 2nd quarter.FSU is
good but they will lose 3 games (UM, FL, GT or NC) and won't even win the ACC.
Hey, DN...I think you can take down those 1984 stories now. Put them away
until, I think it was 2012 that someone said. Yea, that's it 2012 when the
Cougs will be national champs again. Wait, it's going to take until 2015 for
the MWC to gain back enough respect for the Cougs to have that opportunity.
Never mind, forget 2012.To the Utes...on behalf of all of BYU-dom, I
apologize for destroying what you accomplished last year. Once again, you will
have to put the conference on your broad shoulders and take the lead. You will
need TCUs help this year but you can do it.Signed,Disgruntled BYU Fan
Before the season started I looked at the BYU defense and I saw a smallish
D-line along with some very average line backers and the usual terrible , slow
corner backs and predicted BYU would lose 6 games in 09. I stick to that
prediction. BYU loses to TCU , Utah, New Mexico, Air Force and Colorado State.
Does this mean the Cougars won't be playing in the national championship game?
I am not reading all the comments in this section becuae there are going to be
fans from both schools taking unecassary cheap shots. Lets face it. It is NOT
easy to go undefeated no matter your team. Between BYU/Utah it has only
happened 3x in 25 years. It is a lot to expect of these kids. I applaud you
all. You did your best. There is still an opportunity for the the big 3 to end
up in the top 15 this year. As far as BSU goes I hope you get clobbered
by anyone and everyone you play. I would laugh and laugh if USU somehow beat
BSU. I know it is not going to happen, but it would be good. There are teams
who could upset BSU, but BSU purposely schedules patsies as they are afraid to
show who they really are. I would rather lose to a respectable team than go
undefeated and be questioned for eternity. BSU has only ONE victory in five
tries in bowl games. ONE!!!! You are a punchline.
It would seem that a top 10 ranking is a deaths sentence for BYU.The
team lacks the necessary fortitude to follow through, folding under pressure
pre-"mah-toorly" time and again.
If they played the same as they did today, this FSU team would have blown both
Utah and Bosie St. out of the water! Probably even worse than they did to BYU,
and they would have beat last year's Utah team. The only team in the
conference that would have stood a chance against this team is TCU. This
is a reality check folks. Don't blame BYU for losing big. You all would have
done the same. Want proof? Utah lost to a very mediocre Oregon team, and
BSU barely kept up with a mediocre Fresno State. Last year Utah barely beat some
very mediocre teams. They came out big for the lackluster Alabama team, but they
would have been blown away by an FSU team this good last year.You all
better start recruiting athletes like TCU if you want to compete with everyone!
Feels sad to have both teams get embarrassed today. I thought BYU stood a
chance. At least your offensive coordinator didn't call a fade route on the 2
yard line on fourth and goal with 2 seconds left to play in the first half....
Let's all join hands for TCU. Go Frogs!!
I was mocked for pointing out people celebrating on the Sabbath. Now look at
Um, just for the record - Heisman type caliber players, such as Tebow, actually
do lead there teams back into contention and then into the lead from behind.Max is certainly a good QB but far from great. Letting the Riley kid
get some extra reps wouldn't be a bad idea.
Hey BYU fans....would you like a little cheese to go with that whine? Now go
play you're little mountain west conference schedule and spend the rest of the
year talking about how good ya'll think you are.
Look, I know that misery loves company but I happen to agree with the original
post...BYU really did embarrass the conference today. The MWC recognition
achieved last year by Utah and TCU just went down the tubes and BYU is
responsible for it.End of story!
Just the comments I would expect from the BYU faithful, to Same Old Cougars -
stop blaming the officials. All these comments about the BCS, top ten rankings,
and winning streaks (Utes), and the article in the Trib about Utah being ready
for the PAC-10. To Upset - I am sure you are upset, but dominant? Yes FSU was
dominant. The OU win was just lucky, if Bradford had not gone out early, BYU
would have never been in the top 10, that was overrated. It is said over and
over, you have to take one game at a time, BYU and the fans are worrying too
much about the BCS. The MWC is not ready for 'prime time football'.
Ha Ha, fun reading | 8:21 p.m. Sept. 19, 2009For the Uter that wrote BYU
is a disgrace to the MWC, are you serious. FSU is a very good team, Multiple
NC's. Utah just loss a game that Oregon tried to give to them - that's
disgraceful to the conference.---------------Keep
telling yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night. How many D1 starts
does Max Hall the senior have over Cain? Yes Utah looked horrible but they did
not get destroyed like the Y.FSU does have national titles but I
will guarantee you that this FSU team that DESTROYED you won't win the national
title THIS year. In fact I am willing to bet they don't make a BCS game, just
like you. Speaking of embarrassing...7-5 Arizona 3110-2
BYU 21Nuff said!!
Looks like the REAL BYU showed up
Dude right on the head! And I'm a Ute fan!News Flash to any Ute
Writer - We Lost today. We lost to a team that isn't that good. We lost to a
team that got destroyed by BSU.Translation: today is not a good day
to write smack to the Cougar fans - do that after we get a win and you get your
GED.Hey, FSU is a good team. Cougars you had a great win against
OU. Best of luck against everyone aside from Utes and TCU.
and the spin continues...BYU LOST!! DEAL WITH IT!!
Did I read this right?? Are you actually declaring BYU national champs for
2012? Holy cow, you people really don't learn.
Well, there is is still Boise State........
DB...thats what we need DB.
Scott Gavenman | 8:20 p.m. Sept. 19, 2009At least the yewts lost. As long
as they lose, it is still a good day.-----------------BYU is
offically the old, and slow big brother. The young and talented little brother
lost with a QB in his 3rd game with new O and D coordinaters. What
is your excuse of getting slaughtered by FSU as home. The same FSU that barely
beat a Division 2 team last week. Why couldn't you make even stay close. Hmmm
TCU, Utah, Arizona, and now FSU.
I think it is going to be a while before we hear any more from PK and DJ. So
long to the spokesmen of the BYU collective intelligence.
O-W-N-E-D!!! Period.Completely out coached from the time they got
off the bus yesterday afternoon. So now I root for BYU to beat Utah
and TCU to beat them both and go BCS busting. BYU, why do you always do the let
down? This is like beating Miami way back when the losing to freaking UTEP? Do
they even have a football team?Whatever!
Hahahahahahahahahaha! Down goes the mwc!!! How did sdst do today. What? lost to
The only thing that would have made this one more more fun is if Mendenhall had
started the year off with one of his slogans.
FSU was clearly the better team in this game. I watched both games and think
both BYU and Utah have been over-ranked this year. This should take some
pressure off at least for the remainder of the season and stop all the stupid
talk about the BCS and NC. I expect at least 1 more loss to TCU by both BYU and
Maybe now I can get back to listening to Utah Sports Radio without having to
hear all the "BCS Busting" nonsense from you Cougar fans. What a pathetic effort
on your home field. That breeze you feel Cougar fan is from your national
ranking dropping!And secondly, stop with all the Max hall Heisman
talk! You pressure this kid and get him off his first progression and he will
throw into coverage everytime. He is flat footed, slow and extremely non
athletic.Lastly, the Mountain "Weak" Conference is pathetic. They
should blow the whole conference up!
I tried listening to my neighbor Cougar fans popping off all week but was quick
to warn them that FSU was fast.Well guess what FSU embarrassed BYU
and maybe now the BYU fan base will be quiet this year and next when they start
off with a good win and then show that they don't belong.BYU
bronco did not have the cougs ready, hill had no clue what was happening and
looked like a deer in the headlights on the sidelines and nervous nelly max
played really really bad. maybe some changes are needed such as colorblind max
as second string and nelson , you know the kid from logan that throws and runs
and is heady and makes all those plays at first team. like that is going to
happen and finally i love football but find the endless insluts between byu and
utah fans tiresome and lame. i like utah and wish them well but i love byu
Come on cougs. #7? What have you done with all the money we've given you from
our bcs wins? Hall has another multiple pick game. His td/pick ratio is 1:1.
Where was the fire, defense, toughness? Yea, the Utes lost. They were on the
road and only by 7 though. Lets get better.
FSU offensive line did a great job against us. Ponder had all day to throw.
But he needs to give it back.
I feel sick!!
Finally, the cougars and all their shirts will go back into the closet! It's
pretty sad that the cougars offense couldn't rip apart Florida, who has one of
the worst pass defenses in the country! Florida looked good, BYU looked normal.
BYU cannot compete with the big guys! (What's with these "I AM BYU Shirts?)
Another dumb slogan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And I was feeling bad about OUR quarterback situation after today...yikes
The media weighs in...Check out the headlines on Fox Sports:"Overrated: Number 7 BYU Exposed by 'Noles"I guess we can
only fool them for a while. I can't wait to hear Broco tomorrow..."we beat
ourselves"Then after about a week...the fans will say, "but if not
for the interceptions and the officials, we would have won."I'm done
with the Cougars, I'm done with the idiotic fans, I am embarrassed with the
will be re-broadcast on KBYU as a "classic".
I agree. I thought the cougs would win this game, too. Wow. Way to blow it!
Here's to one of the Bigges Losses Ever!
No need to show up early for a parking place at church tomorrow...all the BYU
fan's will be at home crying.
BYU fans. Quit all this talk about how Max loses these games for us. Its what
happens when you are playing catch up football. Look at ANY QB in college
football, if an offense has to play catch up to stay in a game, the QB is at a
disadvantage (can't set the tempo for the game, time management etc). BYU has
all the offensive power it needs. BYU needs defense. It needs to play smash
mouth. BYU will never be able to compete until they get serious about defense.
BYU needs to take a good look at their arrogance.
We're gonna win a National Championsip and play in the title game!We're
gonna go to a BCS bowl game!We're gonna have the Heisman trophy winner!We have the best defense in BYU history!Beating Oklahoma was the biggest
win in college football history!Jaime Hill is the best defensive coach in
college football!We have solved our problems on defense and we are not
slow anymore!We have the fastest secondary in college football!NOPE! NOPE! NOPE!What a bunch of garbage Cougar fans have
been dishing out since their fluke performance against Oklahoma. You are not the
greatest gift to college football, just so fun to see ya fall after the
ridiculous onslaught of trash talk you have been dishing out.What
comes around, goes around, it's over Yners!
IM A BIG BYU FAN. LETS FACE IT - WE ARE NOT THAT GOOD.OU WAS A BIG
WIN - BUT OU ISNT THAT GOOD.FSU WAS SO MUCH MORE ATHLETIC AND PHYSICAL
THAT IT WAS COMICAL.BYU WILL BE LUCKY TO WIN THE MWC.THE GLORY DAYS
MAY NEVER RETURN...
the COUGARS fall to win the not so big one after the big one? Well
it's an improvement because we hadn't one the big one for 19 years. Hopefully
next year (yep I just said it) we will learn to count to 2!
I am going to be laughing about this for the rest of the season.Tell
me again, BYU fans...about that national championship you are going to win.Chirp, chirp, chirp.
There's some gems here: 1 - Utah is a nat'l power. WHAT!??
WHAT!?? You have to be joking. Be serious.2 - Everything Utah and
TCU accomplished last year just got destroyed.You're right. Terrible loss
at Oregon. That's right. Utah lost today. At Oregon. Who's terrible.3 - BYU set the MWC back 10 years.You do realize the "Sugar bowl
champ" Utes, just lost to the lowly Oregon Ducks, don't you?The fact
that Utah fans are talking trash is equally if not more embarassing than the BYU
loss today.It's like if you had a girlfriend and got dumped, and then your
neighbor gets dumped later that night, and you go over to his house, ring his
doorbell, and say, "HAHA! You got dumped." Then the neighbor replies, "So did
you. And your girlfriend was uglier."Ladies and Gentlemen: Your
University of Utah fans.
...and here comes the BYU spin.Take a closer look at what your own
fans are saying.Also remember that the one thing BYU and Utah had in
common today is that they BOTH played teams that were ranked in the pre-season.
Utah lost by 7 points. I have to get a calculator to figure out the point
margin in BYU's loss.You embarrassed the conference today, BYU!
Utah and BYU friends starting befriending each other in their online comments,
and then both teams get drubbed.Today is the day the MWC campaign
for BCS respect died. Only TCU is left, and they will have trouble overtaking
Boise State in the rankings. Even Idaho beat a MWC team today.
Las Vegas bound!
Give me a break. I hope all this bunch of comments are comming from Utah fans
and BYU haters. As for me I take the bad with the good. Most of BYU fans never
talked about national championship or BCS games. We just enjoyed two awesome
games specialy the Oklahoma game. As for this game we still do not know if it
was an off game for BYU and the best game for FSU. There is still a lot of
football to be played.And you Utah fans do not do what you say BYU fans
do. Don't be pathetic and wait to see what will happen with the rest of the
season. Just as you say the oklahoma game was a fluke, the FSu game could have
been a fluke.GO COUGARS!!!
You have the nerve to get on this board and refer to the Utes as Yewts after
what the Cougars just did? My friend, you have just hit a new high in all time
lows. You and your sorry Coug fans owe the Utah Utes an apology for destroying
every they (the Utes) accomplished last year in gaining respect for the
Max Hall is so terrible. He looks so nervous out there. SOOO nervous. I'm sure
he's a nice guy, but we don't need a nice guy out there. We need him to settle
Today's losses by the Utes and Cougars are obvious set backs but lets get real
for a second. The OU win was great for the conference. What the Utes did last
year was great for the conference. What TCU is doing is great for the
conference.The Ute loss stinks because Oregon tried to give the game
away and the Utes wouldn't take it. That said, if they beat Louisville and
don't take any "bad" conference losses. They will still get ranked at the end
of the year and have a shot at a decent bowl game.The Cougars loss
stinks because Hall is Hall... he plays great against inferior competition and
inferior against great competition. That said FSU is still a very good team
(not just good - very good, borderline great). And they have talent! The
Cougars still have the chance to be top 10 at the end of the year.And TCU still has a BCS shot.BSU - well they should be allowed to
play in the MWC to see if they could hang with the top 3. (they would
definitely make it a top 4)
Yes, BYU is no longer ranked 7th. I don't think they will play any teams like
Florida State for the rest of the season. Yes this was a depressing loss, but
expect them to come back and win the rest of their games. Not happy with the
defense tonight... the offense was fine. The offense only starting losing
confidence after the defense biffed it all night long. This was not the same
team that showed up to play Oklahoma. Either way, if BYU wins out, they will go
to the BCS. I don't think Boise State needs to go to the BCS, their schedule is
Still love my BYU, but ouch-- defense. You put way too much pressure on the
offense. LB were out of position the whole night- from contain to middle.
Defensively the plan was very poor.Any BYU fan who complains about
the refs didn't watch the game. The officials were consistent the whole night.
Yes, there were missed calls on both sides. FSU dominated both lines. BYU receivers were awesome- did you see some of those wicked catches.
Lets move on and have a great season. Go BYU.
byu is #7 hahahahhahaha byu is so good, hahahahhahhabyu the bcs buster
ahahhahahahah. byu can play with anyone. hahahhahhahahha
What do you mean, "Las Vegas bowl here we come?" BYU has to earn a trip to the
LV Bowl and the way I see it, they will have to battle Utah for it because TCU
will be going to the BCS.Roll Frogs!!!!!!!!
I've been saying for years that Mendenhall and Whittingham are both mediocre
coaches. Every year we here how they're going to make a run for the NC. They
have very good players but are horrible head coaches. Get use to it!!!! BYU and
Utah are stepping stones. If they're good, they'll end up somewhere else after a
couple years. If' they're not, expect them to stay for a while. Mendenhall was
NEVER consider for UCLA> They want talent there!!!!Get out of the
Utah bubble and experience real life!!!!
Happy that the BSU Bronco's won against Fresno State and will move above BYU in
the polls. Got to love the BSU Bronco's and the blue turf.
Can we trade Hall for Tim Tebow? He would have live in Utah instead of
NO BCS busting this year. After a loss like that. What an embarrasement! I
knew we were over-rated, but to get beat SO bad at home is sick. Game one I was
exited about the defense. Games two I was even more a believer. Game three . .
. well I guess we're back to the drawing board. Max Hall really struggle
against good teams. We could have really jumped up in the polls with USC
lossing today. But if frogs had wings, well we know the rest. Stay tough
I predicted the loss last week and all the intelligent BYU grads called me an
idiot. I wanted BYU to win too, but I'm not blinded by fanaticism. FSU is way
more talented than BYU and it was obvious. BYU has two more losses on the
horizon TCU and Utah. Pride has spoken
BYU just can't play with the "big boy" teams. They wouldn't have won against OU
if the QB hadn't been injured. They need to stay in the Mt. West. They just
can't play against the really "rated", and great teams. Sorry, BYU.
Cougar fans, when is that NC game that BYU will play in? Also, what time?
what TV network? ESPN? NBC? CBS? ABC? or PBS?I'd like to watch!
come on, let's give credit where credit is due. BYU just got beat by a very
good FSU team. FSU has more weapons and a great QB. No more Max Hall for the
Heisman. He can't tie Ponder's shoes. We got beat today by a much better team
with much better personnel. It's okay to get beat by a superior team. Let's
get after it again next week........
Common' Cougers, you got a reality check today. I am a former Couger myself,
now living in ACC/SEC country. You all just don't get it. In this area,
Basketball is king, and yet, this regions football is still way more intense
than in the Mountain West. The recruiting pool is just huge. BYUs
biggest problem today was thinking that they could disrespect the speed that FSU
and its sister schools bring to the field. No amount of altitude is going to
replace raw speed. Get over it.And Boise State fans - start playing
in some real places. Visit Texas. Take a road trip to Florida. Make a run
into Ohio and see what 100,000 fans sounds like. Play in the swap down at LSU,
then you can talk. Having your own bowl game on the smurf turf doesn't make you
real. Play a season with the big schools where their players play hard games 6
to 8 games a year, not just 2. Then well listen to you. Until then..... show
a little respect. You have yet to prove anything.
Great game Cougars! You and Utah really represented your conference well today.
Now both of you stop with all the BCS busting talk. Your not ready for the prime
time baby! So much for the Mountain "WEAK" Conference...
OVERRATED! Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap, Clap.
San Diego in December sounds nice. Navy looks decent this year.
Pathetic...Bowden out coaches, gets in the heads of BYU players and
fans all week long. BYU--anoter 3 loss season and Vegas Bowl bound
(maybe). What a missed opportunity!
Man, FSU really exposed the BYU defense. Once again, BYU can't represent the
MWC in a big game. The OK game was a fluke. The only two reasons BYU won that
game is 1) because it was Oklahoma's first game and 2) because Bradford got
hurt. If BYU played them next week, OK would destroy the Cougars.
I saw this Fl State team loose to unranked Miami. Nice job BYU. Whose next on
Have you ever seen so much smack talk from a team WHO ALSO LOST!? Shows
the intellect we're dealing with. Congratulations Utah fans. I'm glad you
played so well today so you can talk so much smack. Oh wait. You lost. To a
HORRIBLE Oregon team. Unranked. No offense. No star RB. You just lost.Your QB looked awful.
All I have to say is: SPEED KILLS!!!
Mayber Bronco will now learn to stop being so arrogant and then embarrassing
himself. Bronco is an embarrassment to the school and BYU is an embarrassment
to the conference. I know Utah and TCU will have good years, so the conference
will be ok.
The refs were not from the ACC. Florida State flew 2800 miles to simply to
expose what we already knew. BYU is not that good. They are slow! The Oklahoma
game was a fluke. TCU is the best team in the conference. BYU just embarrassed
the MWC. This is why we get no respect.
May be the understatement of the year so far.Not certain they were
ever "in" the game. Follows the pattern established in recent
years. Team with speed plays the Cougs, smacks them in the mouth
early & often, BYU gets dazed & confused, forgets to play the game. The "Y" seems to do better in games where they have a clear edge on talent.
However, when the other team is as talented and is not intimidated by the mighty
Cougs, the Cougs tend to underperform. Just an observation
Thanks, BYU, I knew you could do it.... that is lose again. I love to see them
win but to lose in this fashion hurts. But then again, I have always said, I
don't care if they lose every game, as long as they beat Utah, it is the only
game I care about. Of course now it looks as if that will be the only game all
of us is going to care about. After their showings today, both teams will lose
2-3 games and go nowhere.
The game should be called throwball not football. Football is played by teams
like Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid. Quite honestly a good Rugby team would
You can't be serious if you've comparing that Florida St. team to Oregon.
Oregon was one of the worst looking offensive teams I've seen in years. UTAH embarassed the conference just as bad as BYU todya.Only you could
talk smack after losing yourself.Bravo
Embarrassing day for BYU football.
With Heaps and all the other blue chip recruits coming next year we will win the
national title in 2012.Nuf said.
Does that mean we won't play for the NC? ;)
The next time BYU gets national attention (if ever) I know alot of skeptical
fans in Utah county who will take the "wait and see" approach. Anyway, BYU
easily loses to TCU at home along with Utah and then gets thumped on the road at
New Mexico finishing with a mediocre 7-4 record and a tie for third in the MWC.
BYU's program is a joke and getting worse year by year. Utah and TCU have the
athletes to represent the MWC well no matter who they play - BYU doesn't.
Wow, they sure had our number tonight. I am truly sorry for all the awful
things I have said about Utah the last couple of weeks.
Surprise, surprise, surprise...BYU fans:1. Talk way too
much2. Don't learnTake a lesson from the Book of Mormon...try
Utah 2Boise State 1Hawaii 1BYU 0Now
maybe sports radio can STOP talking about BYU and the national championship. PK
and DJ will now have to come back to earth.
A shootout -- and BYU got shot. Check that, BYU hardly even got off a shot.
What a difference it makes when the opponents starting quarterback plays the 2nd
That is going to leave a mark! So much for Max Hall's senior leadership. Riley
Nelson looked pretty good in the end. It will be interesting to see how the
Cougars and Utes respond to their losses today.
once again your BCS hopes are gone!!!!yeah!!!!I actually
thought you would win this game.... thank you for proving me wrong - this is way
sweeter than if you would have lost to Oklahoma. This will go down as one of
the best coog losses ever!!!
Losing by 26 on the home turf has got to be worse than losing by 7 in a hostile
environment!!!lol Seriously, cougar faithful you shouldn't have been cheering
when the Utes were down it was bad karma and now you've gotten your fair share
of pay back!I love how the coooogs always think they have something
special till they blow the pooch somewhere right after they get some hype!lol I
wonder if it's just too much reading of their own press clippings that this
continually has happened the last few years.
Oh the post are great.Reality check - the Cougars are good. They
are better than the Utes right now. Most likely they will not prevail against
TCU, but we'll have to find out.The game against OU was a great
boost for the conference. For the Uter that wrote BYU is a disgrace to the MWC,
are you serious. FSU is a very good team, Multiple NC's. Utah just loss a game
that Oregon tried to give to them - that's disgraceful to the conference.In a day or two both of todays losses will subside. The Utes are
suppose to have a down year. The Cougars are obviously not going to the NC
title game this year, but if they finish strong they will still a top 20
ranking. The MWC still has hope but we are not top tier. Oh well, our teams
are still fun and still very competitive.
Everything Utah and TCU accomplished last year just got destroyed! Thanks, a
BYU is NOT a national power. Utah is (although not this year). BYU HAD to have
this Florida State game to prove that it belonged and ...well ... I think we
know the answer to that. BYU doesn't have the athletes to compete against the
speed of Florida State or Miami or anybody else in the SEC or ACC. This wasn't
Bronco's fault nor was it Max Hall's fault. This game was won on the line of
scrimage with superior athletes that Florida St. has and BYU doesn't. BYU had
the chance to prove they belonged and they set their program back to square one
with this blowout.
The season is not over. The MWC championship is still up for our taking and we
will do it. One loss is hard to take, but it is not the end of the world. At
least the yewts lost. As long as they lose, it is still a good day.
I'm a BYU fan. I will be until I die. But today I am upset at Mendenhall and I'm
upset at the players. You should hold your head in shame BYU. And no amount of
spin will put a positive on this one coach.
Nelson looks alot better than old Maxy. Way to step it up in the big games big
BYU quarterback. Five picks last year against the Utes, how many today? If I am
Bronco I am seriously looking at Nelson. So dissappointing for all of the Coug
fans that are so excitable after going 2-0 on the season. It is probably a good
thing they got worked because if they would have one I am sure there would have
been some type of slogan or tshirt started for a BCS run. 54-28
You guys just blew the MWC out of the water. Wait, what's that blue swoosh???
Oh, that's just BYU flying out of the top 25. Well done!Go TCU!!
NOT!!! What a sorry team. All the trash talk from Kitty fans on Ute articles
about: BYU's mighty defense, national title contenders, Hall for Heisman, how
bad Utah looked, how Oregon was going to destroy Utah....How funny
it was BYU that got a beating with a senior QB in his 3rd year starting. Utah
looked bad but it could have been worse we could have played like BYU.
Where was the the pressure on the Florida St. QB? Where was BYU's defense? 1984
repeat just went out the door. Where do the Cougars go from here? Just remember
there were several recruits that BYU is still after that were in attendance and
what kind of impression this loss may have on them.
That's funny...and well said. Good night!
seriously,turnover after turnover. put him on the bench. where are all the idiots now talking national championship, bcs?we
had it coming, talking like that.reality check, we are slow, small,
and not athletic.las vegas bowl here we come. againsigning out until the utah game. nothing really left to look
forward to now.thanks cougs
Way to represent he MWC. At least Utah was competitive. BYU set the MWC back 10
Set the MWC back five years? Speak for yourselves, Zoobs. I don't expect the
Utes to go undefeated every year but they represent the conference just fine.
Looks like the Max Hall we all know and love finally showed up this season. Guy
was single handedly responsible for HALF of the Seminoles points. He played
like he had money on their time. Nice.
Bronco makes $900K?? Wow. Does he have BYU and it's fans fooled.Too funny!Guess what, BYU fans...NO BCS FOR YOU! Yea, I
know...just wait until next year when you win the national championship. I can
hear the talk already.
can you say "overrated"! Say goodbye to the top 25 for the rest of 09 BYU. What
a joke. Too much speed. Too many athletes for the slow Provo boys. So much for
polls too. BYU defense stinks just as I thought. Had Bradford not gotten hurt in
the OU game BYU would be 1-2 right now. Anyway, you have to prove yourself to be
in the top 10 and BYU didn't.
I s'pose that today just set the MWC back 5 years. Start making plans for the
Poinsettia Bowl folks and pucker up to kiss the back sides of the ACC and their
automatic qualifying after all. Sheeeesh, this is disappointing!
Man, I just have to get on here and vent out.. I was at the game and left when
FSU went up 36-14. We did not look dominant at all in the trenches, skilled
positions and everything! Dang, I hope we can improve. I thought out defense was
better this year.. I guess not! The offense well let's chat about them laters..
Let's get better than today cougs!! fudge
byu and their naive fans always claim bcs status in septmeber. they never
learn. utah is still the only mwc team to bust the bcs - twice - and win -
twice. byu will never get there.
And that, my Utah and BYU friends, is the difference between getting up for one
or two big games every year and playing five or six every year. FSU and Oregon
won't be the top team in their league. I believe the MWC is the sixth best
league and belongs in the BCS, but is no where near the SEC, Pac-10, Big-12,
Big-10 and ACC. I think Cincinnati in the Big Least would probably beat both of
you as well. Can we accept reality now? I know the answer is still no. Have
fun with Orrin Hatch in Congress.Boise State and the BCS
Max Hall is back to his old ways in the second half against good defenses.
Before the fall
Yikes! Note to Bronco: Speed Kills
Once again, Hall implodes. Look at it on the bright side, BYU
fans...at least this year you got your reality check early in the season before
you made yourselves look too foolish with all the talk. Way to
represent the conference, once again.Maybe this time, you people
Talk about a beat down. BYU is terrible. I'd be worried about Colorade State if
I wear the Cougars.
Max Hall's new favorite receivers are FSU secondary. I guess he needed a new
best friends since Ute secondary are playing in the NFL.Don't worry
max TCU and Utah will make sure you don't feel lonely.
Enough said-and to think I actually cheered for the Y??? Why BYU is not like
Utah, they are has beens since the 1984 season. What a shame-the MWC was just
starting to build some momentum.
SHUT THE HECK UP. Shut up about BCS busters. Shut the about NC. Shut up about
respect. Shut up about the refs and your lame excuses. You are getting a beat
down by a good, not great team. Say hello to speed and talent.
Officiating? How about BYU's defense (or lack thereof), or Max Hall throwing to
the other team again. Florida State doesn't need any help from the officials.
This is just a gold old fashioned beat down. BYU is obviously extremely
for making $900,000 a year, Bronco should have been more prepared!!!!
Hey, DN...did you guys just change the Cougar Web page. You must be incredibly
embarrassed, too. Why don't you post some pictures about their
national championship. Do you have any that aren't black and white from back in
speed kills & byu has none. tcu is the best team in the mwc (and is better than
boise state), utah is a close second. byu is division 2, at best. so much for a
trip to the bcs, so much for a shot at a national championship, so much for max
hall for heisman.
BYU never loses at home... never say never! They will need miracle to win now!
So much for BCS busting. But I still love my Cougars - Go Cougs!
I don't live in Utah. Is that really happening? Cougar fans are sooooo
gullible. Absolutely hilarious. No one on the planet is better at talking than
BYU fans. Talk it up, people...talk it up!!GO TCU!!!!!!!!!!!!I am going to laugh myself to sleep tonight.
Here we go again. Lack of preparation, over confidence, failure to adjust, and
that deer in the head lights look, and it's over!! When you are down, passing
downfield is working, what you want to do if you are BYU is go to the run, fail
to pick up first downs, give the ball back quick to an offense you can't stop,
and then blame the officials!!! Sorry to be a BYU supporter!
But that pick six was the worst no call I have ever seen...
Should have waited til december to talk about BCS bustin'...
Earth to poogerville this is what happens when you look ahead to the NC game
after winning only 1 or 2 games.Noles
Um, well, okay, at this point, I guess I'm stuck with this:GO TCU!!!
BYU almost scored half as many points as FSU...whoops
I'm glad to see that order has been restored. Boise will be and should have been
the only buster ever. The MWC can complain to Congress all they want they are
were they belong. GO Oregon Go FSU
BYU never loses at home...wait
If it weren't for the refs, speed of FSU, and the pride of our team we
"would-of" totally dominated today.Cougar
Grow up BYU fans...stop blaming your problems on the officials. NO ONE is out
to get BYU! Football has a rule book and believe it or not, even the BYU
Cougars are responsible to follow it!! You people are an embarrassment to the
Already one comment about the officiating....... two bottles of the state of
Utah BCS whine please!
This officiating crew isn't from the ACC. It's a patchwork of referees from
C-USA, the WAC, and Mtn. West.
Can we please stop the "BCS busting Coogers" shirts and ads on sports radio?What a joke.
Zoob fans, don't be so upset and just support your team. Obviously they are not
as consistent as the Utes, who still lost today, but you are a sad group of
fans. FSU is good, BYU is having a bad day, Utes had a bad day. Better days
are awaiting both programs, and likely the Utes will have many better days.
myself. being a cougar fan is like being a cubs fan. why i did this to myself
AGAIN ill try to figure out and remember when basketball rolls around and i pick
them to win their first round game in march..NOT THIS YEAR!! i would be safer
putting my money on the CHICAGO CUBS every year for the rest of my life. im
going to buy a florida state hat.. peace out
Look at the bright side you are only down by 23 points going into the 4th
Same old Cougars | 7:06 p.m. Sept. 19, 2009 Not to mention the ACC
officiating crew is doing everything it can to help FSU. Cry me a
river... still in the 3rd FSU has 410 yards on the same defense with 7 starters
that were dismantled by TCU, Utah, and Arizona last year.I was
actually expecting this score against OU.My Utes looked horrible
today but atleast we didn't get spanked.
Mobile quarterbacks beat BYU up last year as well. Pre-game Bronce responded to
the question "what are your weaknesses" by saying "They have not yet been
exposed." We knew what it was, just hadn't come against it yet.
still time left to make the score "respectable"....
After I've gotten over my intense anger with the team I think you said it best.
This was actually the defense I expected against Oklahoma. I wished we had just
lost that game. I guess the kids just somehow played the game of their lives
against Oklahoma and this is the team and the defense that we really are.
I thought we didn't drop games at home? The school lied to me. Maybe I will
transfer to the U where they are at least realistic.Pull your head
out of the clouds BYU. We just got spanked at home to a non-ranked team that
barely beat Jacksonville State.
Clueless, clueless, clueless
Bowden comes into Provo and spanks the supposed 7th ranked team in the
Thanks for the jump back into the polls.FSU
This is the defense I was expecting from BYU against OU...6:01 3rd
Qtr:FSU 44 (378 total yards)BYU 14Next time
you celebrate at Provo airport make sure BYU is bringing a shiny new trophy with
them.Thank you BYU for embarrassing the MWC once again (for more
details see 10-2 BYU vs 7-5 Arizona from last year).
lets go cougs
i think byu should move down to division II and play teams like weber state that
they can compete with....
This is the worst game I have ever seen Bronco coach in Provo. We have no heart
and no defense. Not to mention the ACC officiating crew is doing everything it
can to help FSU. Worst loss ever. another mediocre season here we come.