Comments about ‘Ethics-initiative backers expect pushback from legislators’

Lets face FACTS here, there really is no such thing as an independent comission.

If the Governor appoints he would appoint Republicians, if thes "citizen" groups, which are all Democrats appoint then we're back to this comission being POLITICAL.

Our Utah Constitution requires the legislature to do the job.

If you don't like your legislator, get your neighbors off their butts to go vote against them.
Utah, right now has the lowest per capita number of voters.
Shame on all of us! We deserve what we get.

Right now it's a huge conflict of interest for legislators to draw their own districts. They are effectively choosing their voters.

It's the voters job to choose our leaders, not the other way around. I encourage you all to check out the Fair Boundaries website to see what the redistricting reform campaign is about. "Anonymous" doesn't have the facts straight, but that's hardly surprising.

The reason voter turnout has been declining is because voters have lost confidence in the system as it currently operates. Even Gov Huntsman recognized this, which is why he put together a commission to look at the entire topic of ethics reform and elections. Interesting that the ONLY people complaining about either initiative are current legislators. Hmmmm.

Thanks, Rob, for mentioning the excellent web site, fairboundaries.org.

This is an impartial site with members on both sides of the isle supporting it. I recommend every citizen check out the great information on it.

The redistricting effort is a union shell to elect more moderate legislators who will support more money for teacher's and public employee unions. What we don't need in this day and age is a scam to elect new, high-spending state legisaltors. Taxpayers just don't have anymore to give.

If the democrats were in power in the Utah Legislature there would be no real push for a "nonpartisan commission." As a matter of fact there is no such thing as "nonpartisan" in politics. If you don't believe me look at the democrats' present operation in the congress, and the republicans as well when they were in power.

I see no reason for a silly commission. If you think that gerrymandering has been a problem, I suggest that you look at the safe democratic district that they gave Rep Matheson in 2001. (They could have put a significant portion of Utah County in the 2nd district making it impossible for Matheson to be re-elected) As for the rest of the state it appears to me that the 2001 Legislature tried to provide safe districts for democrats. If they had gerrymandered they could have gotten rid of the democrats in the legislature and the 2nd Congressional District as well.

The real problem is that democrats are unable to identify with Utah voters. Democrats think that it is a problem with the voters(Utah voters are just a bunch of rubes) Democrats need to look at their own issues.

I don't vote for the simple reason that I have been completely disenfranchised. There is no one in the legislature that "looks like me." I'm a moderate conservative, I belong to a different religion than my neighbors, I believe in compassionate care for the poor, and I used to believe in the two-party (or more) system until Greg Curtis and John Valentine declared that it was dead.

Ethics reform? Give me a break. Ain't gonna happen in this state. The lobby interests are simply far too powerful to allow it.

Reading the comments above - 1-7 - goes some way to explain why the US is the major producer of 'Conspiracy theories' in the modern world.

Each one has a different slant on this issue.

Go figure.