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How did he NOT see the train coming? I wasn't there, so I don't know, but it sounds to me like the fault lies with the bike guy, not the train operator.
There are flashing lights and loud noises for a reason.
I just don't get it either. How can someone not look both ways when crossing the train tracks!
he was listening to an ipod and just didn't hear it and was distracted. Maybe he thought he could get across before the train got there and he just miscalculated. I hope he will be all right.
Bicyclists are always right. I had one on N. Temple and Main blow thru a red light in front of me. Flipped me off.
I was the bad guy?
When the arms are down, the right-of-way officially becomes UTA/UPRR property. Even if there was no train, the cyclist could be charged with trespassing for going on the tracks with the arms down. People do this all the time; maybe now they'll stop.
You said it. I wouldn't be surprised if this was yet another example of biker hubris; ignoring traffic laws because they're on a bike and can get away with it.
Unfortunately, there is no known way to ignore the laws of physics and get away with it, as this man found out.
I bike down North Temple every day and I have seen that guy with no helmet speed down State Street through the North Temple interesection at about 35 mph. Last time, he sped up to beat the red light and barely made it.
[quote]The barrier arms were down for road traffic, but they do not block pedestrian traffic on the sidewalk, where the bike path is located.[/quote]
Don't pedestrians/bicyclists deserve protection? The technology exists to provide these kinds of barriers.
Before you all start jumping on the "all cyclists break the law" band wagon; self analyze your own driving. When was the last time you stopped AT the stop sign before you rolled past it to check for traffic? When was the last time you honestly followed all of the speed limit signs on your way to any given destination? When was the last time you texted while driving, talked on your phone while driving, put on makeup, looked for a cd, talked to someone in the back seat, turned on your blinker a full 3 seconds before making a turn, or even turned it on while changing a lane?
SOME cyclists break laws, not all of them. It would be like a cyclist saying "all drivers break laws"...oh wait most of them do break at least one every day, remember the stop sign, you are supposed to stop at it not after you pass it. When a someone on a bike breaks a law, they are taking a chance with their own life, when a driver breaks a law, they are taking a chance with someone elses mom or dad, son or daughter.
Of course they want drivers to stay 3 feet away, with all the debris on the side of the road a cyclist never knows when their tires will slip from under them, three feet keeps them save. But, you didn't really think of that because you were running late for work and thought it would be alright to pass too close to that cyclist instead of waiting till it was safe to go around them and hit them and killed them. I sure would want to have that on my conscience for the rest of my life. Drivers spend too much time complaining about cyclists breaking laws and not enough time paying attention to what kind of an effect their 1 ton killing machine will have if not operated safely.
My Dad taught me to "...never challenge a train or a semi-truck when driving an automobile; you will be the looser every time."
And he was talking about people in automobiles, let alone a person on a bicycle.
I always wondered why people would get hit by a train whilst walking on the tracks, I just figured that you'd hear the train in time. NOT TRUE! I was waiting for the Frontrunner at a crossing, I saw the train approaching from the south, I looked north for any other trains and before I knew it, the Frontrunner wooshed by at 60 mph easy. I didn't hear a thing. I'm glad I was back from the track!
Now I understand how people can get hit, easy.
Just my five bucks worth.
Yeah, I love to bike. I've seen some cyclists do really stupid things too, but most don't. Most of us follow the rules of the road. We want to be alive when we get home just as much as you do. With pedal clips it is harder to come to a complete stop. Don't beat up on all of us because there are a few crazies out there. Sorry for this guy and his family. Still a tragedy no matter who was right or wrong.
Anonymous, bicyclists are not pedestrians. Bicyclists by law are supposed to follow vehicle laws (look it up in the Utah Code if you don't believe me). I know some bicyclists think they are pedestrians. They ride on sidewalks and crosswalks. However, those who do that are ignorant of the law. When anyone is approaching a train track and the rails are down and the lights are flashing, if you have any brains, you better look! Those trains can't stop on a dime.
This is a terrible tragedy for the cyclist and his family. The human body is a vulnerable and frail mechanism. I think it is a shame that people put themselves at risk every day, and that there has to be a law requiring at least 3 feet of clearance between a human being and a moving 3000-7000lb vehicle. Cyclists have the right to an entire lane on a narrow road, yet they usually yield to motorists like you angry drivers. Why don't you try standing on the white line at the side of the road while cars pass you only 3 feet away. Then you can watch them shake your fist at you, or swerve like they're going to hit you. Check page 33 of the Utah driver's license handbook for road and sidewalk rules regarding bicycles. There's no need for hostility from either side. Just be a little patient and empathetic, and you'll get home feeling a little less angry and stressed out, and so will the cyclists you encounter.
I'm sorry for the guy's family. A tragic, preventable loss.
I worked with Lolo and he was a good man, always smiling, trying to make people laugh. I'm saddened to hear this, and it's terrible to see people putting all the blame on him. Many cyclists have been killed in the past few months, by cars, by trains, and maybe this is a sign that better security measures need to be taken.
I made a previous comment here and still believe bike riders should obey all rules.
I am also very sorry a person died. My condolences go to his family and friends also the driver of the train. There will be lots of emotion for all.
Both KSL and DN fail to say what time this happened. They say he died "later" but fail to tell when. I thought facts were part of journalism. What time of day did this happen?
Big difference between a 'cyclist' and 'a person on a bicycle'
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