Just curious..... why bother making any comments. They are meaningless. Think
of a story like this with absolutely NO blogging.
Notwithstanding all the good or bad that a person contributes to this world
while in it, once his life has been completed and he is called home, the rest
(all of eternity) is up to his creator to determine. Regarding
Chappaquiddick, only three people know the truth- Mary Jo, Ted, and the Savior.
She will testify of the truth, Teddy will agree and Jesus, with his loving arms
around both will render His judgement. The reward will be fitting for all
involved and all will accept the adjudication.As for us remaining,
we should be glad that we still have the opportunity to do some good and to
right some wrongs. Jacob Marley: "It is required of every man that the spirit
within him should walk abroad among his fellow men! If it goes not forth in
life, it is condemned to do so after death! It is doomed to wander through the
world! Oh, woe is me! And witness what it cannot share but MIGHT HAVE SHARED on
Earth and turned to happiness!"So do the best you can and leave Ted
and his family to their sorrows.
Ed Klein, a former editor of Newsweek and the NY Times Magazine, went in for a
live interview on the Diane Rehm show the other day and told an "amusing
anecdote" about Senator Kennedy. It seems that one of the Senator's favorite
topics of humor was Chappaquiddick, and that, not just content with telling his
own jokes about the subject, he'd often ask others if they'd heard any good
jokes about it they could relate to him. Apparently, after Mr. Klein realized
that this wasn't nearly as cute and sweet a story as he thought it was, he
started trying to backpedal, and the show cut right to commercial.I'm sorry, but how horrible is that? You're involved in an accident that
leaves a woman dead - whether you're at fault or not - and you like cracking
jokes about it for the next 40 years? What kind of a person does that? And we're
supposed to be fawning all over him just because he's dead? No, sorry.
To LOST IN UTAHWELL SAID!!!!
What makes you think we are all Mormons? What makes you think we live in Utah?
Look who is judging! Why are we consider to be hateful when expressing our own
opinions? Have you heard of being a hypocrite? We are only human.
We have a tendency to judge when we shouldn't. I feel that some of the remarks
made here are emotional as most of us have watched our country slowly be
destroyed by those who have swore to uphold the constitution! Mr. Kennedy had
become one of the most "socialist" Senators that we have ever had! He wanted
complete control of the people, just look at his voting record, it doesn't lie!
I can totally understand everyones frustrations & inability to show any sympathy
at his passing, yet I understand that we must also try harder to be more
Christ-like & show compassion. I didn't really like the man, but I am
sympathetic to the situation.
Let the poor soul rest in piece. He is the one now who has to meet his Maker!
is an idiot and has many liberal tendencies. His relationship with this
abortionist is further evidence of that.
Remember yes. Fondly, no.
What is with you haters? Do you know for sure that Senator Kennedy hated Mormons
or that Mormons hate Catholics? How can you possibly post things about a family
whose tragedies have far exceeded the norm? If you can't say a kind word or
offer condolences, why don't you just shut up and keep your opinion to yourself.
This is about someone's son, father, uncle, grandfather, friend, passing away -
it isn't about politics or religion. Yes, we all have our faults, and indeed,
Senator Kennedy had his. But the Chappaquiddick incident was 40 years ago. Let
it go and get a life. There again, all you know is what you read and that isn't
always the truth. If you weren't there (or at any other incident that so many
choose to post), then how do you know the truth? And what business is it of
yours anyway? People should live their own lives and keep out of others. I'm
sure the Senator has paid his dues with everything that has happened in his
lifetime. May he rest in peace with his family which is really all that counts,
not your stupid comments.
My condolences for the family that loses their patriarch. Death is seldom easy,
but enough already.
Only positive comments are going to be posted? And I'm sure you're all for the
fairness doctrine, as well. No biased media. Yeah, right.
C'mon, lower Utah's flags at half-staff for Ted Kennedy...does the Governor know
how to read???
Too bad he couldn't learn anything. the worst economy since the Great depression
and the lion of the senate never saw it coming. Senator Hatch is just as bad.
And we keep electing them year after year to screw things up. Only in America.
Ted Kennedy fought conservative Robert Bork's nomination to the Supreme Court on
these grounds - and won, "Robert Bork's America is a land in which
women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated
lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens' doors in midnight raids,
schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists could be
censored at the whim of the Government, and the doors of the Federal courts
would be shut on the fingers of millions of citizens for whom the judiciary is
-- and is often the only -- protector of the individual rights that are the
heart of our democracy... President Reagan is still our president. But he should
not be able to reach out from the muck of Irangate, reach into the muck of
Watergate and impose his reactionary vision of the Constitution on the Supreme
Court and the next generation of Americans. No justice would be better than this
injustice."Those are not Utah's values.
Let me tell you there are other areas of the country that will more freely cast
verbal stones than here. You just expect that because are large portion are LDS
that they shouldn't do that.Also you say, "He clothed the naked, He
fed the hungry, He gave shelter to the homeless! And he tried to provide medical
care for them also".NO HE DID NOT! He took your and my money to do
that - we did that, BUT not by our own free will and choice.I have a
single Mom who is now living with my family trying to help her and her baby. I
did that on my own free will.So don't throw verbal stones and preach
Those incidents you mention are different than a man of full mental and physical
capacity, who fled the scene of an accident and left a woman to drown, and then
neglected to report the incident to authorities until after the body had already
been found and the story was already making the news. Eyewitnesses the next
morning said he was acting as though nothing was wrong, and that he'd called the
front desk of his hotel a few hours after the accident to complain that he'd
been woken up by a loud party down the hall. He then changed his story a few
times, making himself sound more heroic each time, and paid off the woman's
family so they wouldn't sue him. The young woman also left her things, including
her purse and her hotel key, at the party, making it seem that she was going off
alone with the senator and then planned to return to the party afterward.Whether it was an honest accident or not, whether he truly was in shock
and didn't realize what he was doing, his actions after the accident spoke
volumes about his character.
The vitriol I've seen directed at Ted Kennedy in the last 2 days here at DN
makes me think that many of those commenting have problems that Ted Kennedy and
politics in general are not responsible for. Find your humanity,
people, and think what all the hate you're carrying around inside is doing to
To "Lost In Utah" Amen! You said it all perfectly.
Mitt Romney is no Utahn. He was born and raised in Michigan. He has lived
most of his adult life in Massachusetts.
I will not be lowering my flag to half mast.
I think we all know someone who has made a really bad mistake. Recently, in my
area we had an 85 year old lady strike and kill a 6 year old getting off a bus -
is now any good she has done in her life completely undone by this accident? A
soldier who uses poor judgement, and kills by friendly fire someone I played
high school football with - who later went on to play pro ball and then enlisted
- is that soldiers life now meaningless. The doctor wo makes a mistake in
surgery, and looses his patient, should that person be condemmend for the rest
of their life despite all the other people that same doctor positively touched.
Do we vilify the pilot of a communter jet that misunderstood runway instructions
and in the end caused an accident that took many lives, is that persons life and
any good completely lost? I think we don't look past others
failures because we don't want to. If it were a brother or sister who made the
mistake, we would grieve with them. But a political figure -there seems to be
no room for forgiveness. Way to stand tall Utah.
"He among you that is without sin let him cast the first stone." I am so happy
to be in Utah where there are thousands of you people that are clean and pure
and without sin so you can freely cast verbal stones at everyone you disagree
with.How sad that many members of the Mormon Church, that profess to
be followers of Jesus Christ, do not do what He asked us to do or not do. Yes I
am an active member of the Mormon Church but it is difficult at times like this
to admit that I am because of the hate that comes so freely from so many of
you.Ted was a great man. He did many great things for the "least"!
He clothed the naked, He fed the hungry, He gave shelter to the homeless! And
he tried to provide medical care for them also.Have you done these
things? If you haven't you better start because that is what Jesus Christ said
that we would all be judged on.Good Luck!
It always has to turn to religion. Can't we just talk about these men
politically and leave Mormonism out of it. They do not make as big a stink about
things about Catholics or Baptists. Kennedy was a political snake, IMO. He did
things that made me sick to my stomach, personally and politically. Just because
he served long and had a popular political career doesn't mean that he is the
best thing since fried chicken. (Although besides JFK, he was probably the best
of the bunch.) Also, I dont like the word elitists. It shows a particular stink
from the bottom up that I think many of us are guilty of. Most people are trying
to become elitists. Aren't they?
No matter what you feel about the Kennedy family, please be aware that four
brothers died while in service to the country. The first of these brothers was
awarded the Navy Cross. Yesterday, there was a touching political cartoon in the
press of three brothers welcoming their aged brother into their sloop. Utahans
should all be sensitive to the family and their contributions, and we best stow
any other notions at this time.
To No Teddy Lover. I must agree that I'm totally conflicted about his death.
People can tell great stories of his kindness and service. But then there is
Chappaquiddick. I've stayed out of any discussion because I don't think I can
say kind things about him. But eventually the adulation reaches such a point
that it might be important to point out his highly significant shortcomings. I
mean, he walked away from a manslaughter charge that to my knowledge he rightly
deserved. Drunk driving touches a nerve with me since it claimed the life of my
cousin. If her killer were a lauded public figure I think this love fest would
have made me sick. And it might have painted his supporters in a pretty
unfavorable light. Do those who have such adulation for Ted really have ni issue
with Chappaquiddick? It's just an honest question. Maybe I need to recheck my
math. Maybe his good made up for his bad. I find that hard to believe though.
He was a person with all his flaws and human traits. The natural man is an
enemy to God. And Teddy was the most natural man out there. He never did
anything that wouldn't feed his inner desire for notoriety and power. RIP
Chappaquiddick and the cover-up/silence afterward--trumps any good Ted Kennedy
may have accomplished in his life.
I wish my condolonces to his family and friends. I personally could
never embrace him because of Chappaquidick. I don't understand why the elite
are not held to account. Though I disagree with many of his political views and
personal traits, I do recognize the effectiveness he had in congress.
American was crafted from the debate of competing opinions and ideas. True
patriotism embraces the debate of ideas, for that is what this freedom is all
about. Demonizing those who don't share our opinion, spreading fear and hatred
is how others in other places and other times have clung to power.I
have not always agreed with the Kennedy family politics, but no family has lost
more and suffered as much as the Kennedy's have protecting the rights of people
to choose freely to be liberal or conservative. They have paid for it with the
blood of their own family, loosing three of four brothers to the cause. You
don't have to like their politics, but you can respect their dedication and
sacrifice they have made. Thank heavens there are people out there
that remember who they are, what they stand for and represent far overshadows
some political party affiliation. There is time to stop, and respect those who
has lost this day, even if it is someone we disagree with.It is too
bad class and respect are lost. It seems some have become Republicans first
rather than fellow Americans. Real patriotism is in shambles.
The way to get rid of your enemies is to make them your friends. That's what
they do in Washington. They have to get along with each other to work together.
Perhaps Kennedy didn't think like a Mormon but if they were hateful to him he
would never want to be like them. Their job in Washington is to sway each other
to think alike. It's called debate, not hate. Who's to say how much good rubbed
off onto Sen. Kennedy from friends.
It dose my heart good and it makes me proud to hear prominent leaders from our
Utah community speak well of those from a party, that is not of our own.It is much better than hearing all the bashing of our President and all
that he tries to accomplish.It is better than hoping that all that our
President does accomplish, eventually will fail.I hope that these
Utah leaders are contagious in their open minded recognition that there is good
in all of us, regardless of our Party.
I'm glad his suffering is over and he's gone to a better place. I'm
also inspired by Hatch and Romney showing true statesmanship in honouring the
family and efforts of Kennedy. Now I just hope the left-wing loons
don't try to exploit his death ("Let's pass health-Care for Teddy") just to make
political points out of it.
I remember a chance meeting I had with Senator Hatch and it didn't take long for
the conversation to turn to Senator Kennedy. He truly admired him as a man who
could get things done and find common ground on important issues. Senator
Kennedy took his share of heat for backing causes unpopular with his base but we
should also recognize that Senator Hatch has done the same. I remember some
particular ugly commercials that were aired about the CHIPS program that
criticized his friendship with Kennedy and his willingness to put together a
program that has helped many many people.I hope that others in the
Senate will step forward in this difficult debate and follow their examples.
For all his faults, Ted Kennedy knew how to work toward a common good with
people of different political persuasions. I wish more of the Utahns who have
posted comments so far would figure that skill out. Too many Utahns favor
ideology over pragmatism and common sense, and the result has not been in our
state's best interest.My sincere condolences to the Kennedys and to
why do you fight with the un negotiable? let the dead rest and the live live in
peace... while the unrestful disturb the peace with their restlessness, let them
create their own destruction...
. . . between Hatch and Kennedy, is there anyone who guesses about who did the
giving and who did the taking? I think not.
I wonder if Ted Kennedy "bent" any of his liberal ideas to match up with
Hatch?It seems that a conservative is "bi-partisan" when he adopts the liberal
Gee, I thought this was about Senator Kennedy's passing. What is all this rot
about whether or not Romney is a Utahan? As much as I did not like
Kennedy's personal actions, the grief that a death of anyone brings to family
and friends is regrettble. To the Kennedy family, condolences on the
loss of your family member.
I resent the statement "Romney is a Mormon; therefore, he's a Utahn at heart."
Boy are we naive! 55% (at least) of Mormons are not from Utah nor the U.S., and
don't even know of our Utahns. So, pretty much your statement is fatuous. Get
your facts straight or keep your mouth shut! Ted Kennedy had his
faults (we don't know all the facts of the Chappaquiddick story) we all do, but
his heart and soul was dedicated to the people. I'm not a liberal but I know
this man saw through labels and fought for everyone. Thank you Mr. Kennedy for a
long, wonderful life of love and concern for the American people.
ted will be greatly missed, may god open his loving arms and welcome him home..
a job well done ted.,
Reading through these comments I find myself wondering why some Republicans
think it is more important to be a good member of their party than a good
American. Ted Kennedy served in the United States Senate and represented the
views of millions of Americans. Other great Americans represented other views
and that competition of ideas and priorities is what makes our country great.
Mitt said some good things about Senator Kennedy. I wish he would now tell the
story of how Kennedy was responsible for getting the steeple put on the Boston
Temple. Thanks Senator Kennedy.
Why is Orrin Hatch so star struck by Teddy Kennedy???
Oh, Pleeeeeze, Matt @ 8:57 am. All Mormons do not embrace, nor relate to, the
"Ted Kennedy, with all of his ideological verbosity and idealism, was a rare
person who at times could put aside differences and look for common
solutions."--Orrin Hatch.So why don't you follow your "best
friend's" example, Orrin? Geez, talk about ideological verbosity....And no matter what National Review says, Orrin is NOT a liberal. Did they call
him that just because he's a friend of Ted?
My sympathy to Senator Hatch. It is always hard to lose a friend. I remember years ago when Kennedy attended the funeral of Hatch's mother in a
Midvale ward building.The relationship of Hatch and Kennedy is not
actually that odd. The real liberals and the real conservatives have more in
common with each other than they do with the great middle ground of moderate
mediocrity. And of course, it is the old story of inseparable friends, one
wild and one steady.
Where's Chaffetz and Bishop?
Is Romney a Utahn?
Sorry, but Romney is not a Utahn.
Mitt's a Utahn?
"Three Utahns who knew Sen. Ted Kennedy well – Sens. Orrin Hatch and Bob
Bennett, R-Utah, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney...Hatch
was perhaps Kennedy's best friend in the Senate, even though Hatch is a
conservative Republican and Kennedy was a liberal Democrat."Mr.
Davidson, Mitt Romney is not a Utahn. He's a Boston elitist. In fact, you said
it yourself, he's a "former Massachusetts Gov."Hatch is not a
"conservative Republican". Hatch is a flaming liberal. The National Review
even named him "Latter Day Liberal".Liberal ideology and
irresponsible journalism go hand and hand these days.