Onlookers sing 'Happy Birthday' to Pres. Monson
Kevin Branham discussed the people born since recorded history. What about those
before? Cro-Magnon man? Neanderthal? Australopithicus?How about
including extinct mammals in the murals of the world rooms. Human hands painted
them in European caves about 25,000 years ago. Don't those people deserve
salvation by proxy ordinances?
Great question. Elder Scott (I think) addressed that question in a recent ensign
article (July?). He basically suggested that when temples are closer and easier
to attend, the result can often be that trips to the temple are also easier to
cancel. His conclusion is that we say to ourselves "I can just as easily go next
Saturday when I'm a bit less busy, since it's only 15 minutes away" whereas when
a temple was 5 hours away, a person would plan an all-day trip and stick to it
because it was a more significant effort to get there. A plan was probably
committed to far in advance, and time set aside for that purpose. Just a thought. I believe Elder Scott may be on to something.
So many have attended the open house and the dedications and yet so few attend
temple? Why is this? How do we turn the crowds at the dedication into crowds at
I researched the number of people who have likely been born since recorded
history--about 80-105 Billion souls. Recently, I reviewed the total names
archived by the LDS Church Family and Individual Records department--about 10-11
Billion living and dead, or just over 10-12% of all the people who have lived in
recorded human history. Joseph Smith received significant revelations by fall
1841 in Nauvoo, Illinois, wherein he laid out the ordinances of baptism and
other work that is to be completed for every person who has or will ever live.
Since this work is performed only in temples, we have the gigantic task before
us to accomplish this by those who are temple goers, and the first 100 million
people had their work done by 1993. The next 100 million has been nearly
completed as of this year, just over 15 years or 10 times the rate of the first
100 million. An acceleration of 10-15 times the pace we are currently on will
finish the names of all mankind by the end of the 1000 year Millenium; 80+ years
for the first Billion at present rates. This is the greatest work of all time.
1 St George Utah 06 April 18772 Logan Utah 17 May 18843 Manti Utah
21 May 18884 Salt Lake 06 April 189314 Ogden Utah 18 January 197215 Provo Utah 09 February 197220 Jordan River Utah 16 November 198147 Bountiful Utah 08 January 199549 Mount Timpanogos Utah 13 October
199651 Vernal Utah 02 November 199753 Monticello Utah 26 July
1998129 Draper Utah 20 March 2009130 Oquirrh Mountain Utah 21 August
2009(The number before each temple refers to its order in the
church's chronological list, based on date of original dedication. As you can
see, Utah had a 74-temple drought between 1998 and 2009, so I'd say they were
due for another one (or two). Looking forward to watching the dedication at our
stake center tomorrow!
The 13th is Manti, not the 14th.
Beautiful building, especially lit up at night. But please don't baptize my
Not "Green River"
14? - Green River? count again
How much did this building cost?
Their are 14 temples in Utah from Logan to St. George,, They are starting from
Cache County, to Down South , They are ,Logan, Ogden, Bountiful , Salt Lake,
Jordan River, Draper, Ocher Mountain Mt Timp, Provo, Vernal, Monticello, Green
River, & St.George,
Blessing are in store. I am so proud of the progressive growth of the church.
The restored gospel is being recieved well by converts to the Lords Church.
To. Katamb and everyone:Please let's keep this civil and respectful.
There's no need for heat in this discussion.
Get over yourself. If it's not special to you, fine, but it is to a LOT of
people, so don't be rude!
The Oquirrh Mountain Temple is beautiful! It's grand staircases up the middle
of the temple are breathtaking. I love the etched stars and circles in the
windows. The circle symbolism throughout the temple was particularly nice. It
is such a privilege and blessing to have another House of the Lord in the Salt
Lake Valley. I hope that many gain strength and hope within the walls of this
To:I wonder? | 5:11 p.m. Aug. 21, 2009Why would lightning strike a
temple? I don't get it!The Church puts a lightning rod with the
Angel Moroni on top of the temples because it's the "highest point." This time
it HIT the rod - as it was supposed to so it didn't destroy the building.
86,000 members in this temple area but only 1500 or so got t attend a service in
the building. I know it will be broadcast to local churches on Sunday, but how
do you get a golden ticket to the first service? Is it for the people who live
in Daybreak, the church leaders?
The reason for Moroni on the Temple is to act as a lightening rod...that was the
original intention. It keeps the temple safer.Yup, and I'm a
non-mormon and know this...sheesh
Isn't it just so very special-- NOT! Reminds me of a world's fair pavilion with
a plastic angel on top.
"surely you don't think God is building them, or deciding where to build them,
do you? don't your leaders make these kinds of decisions?"Yes, we do
believe that God is deciding where to build them. We believe that President
Monson is a Prophet, which means he receives inspiration and revelation as to
what the Lord wants done. Is the exact plot of land chosen by the Lord? I
don't know that one for sure, but I do know that He can make things happen in
miraculous ways--the property to build on was donated by Kennecott. I believe
that you can see the hand of the Lord in all stages of temple building, starting
with the direction to build it in the first place.
I was noting that Sister Monson is using a walker and looks rather frail, is she
not well? I guess that is why President Monson has not done very much travelling
compared to President Hinckley. I do hope she gets better, she always looks to
kind and sweet in the pictures I have seen of her.
I'm grateful for the generally uplifting comments that have been posted thus
far. While I am currently a long way from my home in Utah, it makes me happy to
know that this great work of temple building is moving forward. I hope there
will be many who will appreciate and take advantage of the tremendous blessings
of the temple. Thanks, Deseret News, for this story on the Oquirrh Mountain
Temple dedication (and I thank the new Yahoo! homepage for making it plainly
available to me)!
Just a little information...According to President Bateman, Utah has about 13%
of the Church membership but 25% of the active members. That's one reason why a
lot of Temples are built in Utah.@to - Take a Hint...Christ did good
works always, but on the Sabbath he worshipped in the synagogue. Attending
Church and taking the sacrament is a commandment from our Father in Heaven.
That's the answer to the question you were asking.The Temples are
built under the direction of Jesus Christ and are there for the blessing of all
of God's children. Each one that goes up is a great blessing to everyone,
especially the people in the area.I'm so grateful for my opportunity
to live within a block of a Temple. It is a great blessing to everyone in our
I believe that they base the temple construction on how full the temple sessions
are at surrounding temples. While I am sure it can be argued several ways as to
when and where a temple will be built I know that because of the money and
resources they require no hasty decisions are made. As to the appearance of the
temples and churches it has always seemed that the church tries, generally
speaking, to match the temple and its look to surrounding architecture which is
not an exact science and of course due to the size it is not an exact match
either.Ultimately it is all about providing opportunities for LDS
members to have an opportunity to attend and build themselves spiritually. Also
to learn the lessons of the belief in eternal families.Great
TO== John Pack Lambert | 3:00 p.monce again, way more info,than
anyone in their right mind would want. you are espousing information that no one
wants. if you were to put all that research time into something that would
actually benefit mankind, the world would be a better (and less boring) place...
Why would lightning strike a temple? I don't get it!
["The new Statue Moroni, having been born again and washed of the blackening
lightening strike, looked magnificent and in true form today!"]I'm
sorry - again, I'm not familiar with your ways... was Moroni born again or are
you talking about a statue? and if a statue (which I believe you are, and I
assume it was hit by lightning), how is it "born again"?if you are
using "born again" as a metaphor for the statue being repaired, that's probably
not really very appropriate... born again indicates a living thing, not an
inanimate object. It kind of implies a greater connection to God, and I don't
think God cares about statues (in fact I don't think He likes them at all...)just trying to understand....
--->Doesn't seem proportionate, does it?Personally, I don't feel
that it's wise to second guess the Lord, who sees what we don't see, and knows
the needs and abilities of everyone, everywhere. ----I don't
think the poster was second guessing God... they were wondering about your
man-made temples... surely you don't think God is building them,
or deciding where to build them, do you? don't your leaders make these kinds
["Too many of us treat the Temple lightly and are not willing to set aside the
time required to attend a session on a monthly basis. However, we are willing to
set aside time to go on dates with our spouse each month. How about attend the
Temple on one of these Friday night dates?"]one of the cornerstones
of mormonism is family. to spend Friday night with your spouse is more than
appropriate. Saturday night too...how about you not put so much
emphasis on your temples and put more on the family? how about Sunday the
family go on a picnic at the park instead of services? it's not like God is
just at your temple - God is everywhere, and He would be more pleased seeing a
family all playing and laughing together than He would be seeing them sitting in
a building all quiet and solumn....
Mr. Annonymous - your comments are so bizzare! They make you sound like a weird
old man who will be swearing at people as they use the sidewalk outside your
house to walk to the temple. You called me stupid the other day because I
didn't know about Sunstone. GET A GRIP or go live in the mountains somewhere.
We need more than one temple in many countries. Inside, we do necessary
ordinance work for our ancestors who have gone before us. And with many members
going many times during the year some places need more. Utah is one of them.
In Arizona we had only one temple for many, many years. Now there is another
one in Snowflake, and one more being built and two more in the preparation
state. In many countries in the past it has been very difficult and expensive
for members to get to a temple even once in a lifetime. This is why temples are
being taken closer to all the members, for which we are very grateful. And
since the temples are literally houses of the Lord we build them as nice as we
can, as was done in Old Testament times. The temple In Jesus' time was very
beautiful. And He accepted it as His Father's House. Thank you for
Happy Birthday President Monson.You asked for something special for
your birthday, and I gave it--just wanted you to know!Thanks for
your great example.
You ask a very good question. I'm not sure that it can be fully answered
here,but I'll give it a shot. The Lord loves every one of his
children--those that have lived, those now living, and those yet unborn. God
loves His children so much that He offered His Son Jesus Christ, to bless each
of our lives. Within the walls of the temple, the fullness of the
blessings provided from Christ's atonement are freely offered to humanity.
Because the Lord loves each and every one of us, he wants these blessings to be
made available to all his children--past, present, future. This is a big task,
and temples are needed to provide these blessings. Each week as I
go to the temple to bless the lives of our Heavenly Father's children, I am more
deeply impressed with how much our Father and His Son Jesus Christ love us. If
this is what the temple can do for us, then I wish there were temples
everywhere--available to all on a weekly basis.For more
understanding, visit Temple Square--it's a great place for answers.
Why so many? Temples are different than chapels as you have noted. Chapels are
for Sunday worship and use during the week for all members and visitors.
Temples are for qualified members to obtain special ordinances that bind
families together for eternity. It has been difficult for those who live far
from temples to have those ordinances performed. So the church is trying to
make a temple reasonably accessible for members throughout the world. There are
quite a few in Utah simply because there are a lot of temple attenders in Utah
and the existing temples just aren't able to handle the volume. I hope that
The answer is available. There is a great deal of attention that must be paid to
the human family and the number of those who have passed on is large. We love
all the human family regardless of when they lived upon the earth. Thanks for
I am not LDS, but wonder why so many Temples are needed. I see lots of Churches
and Temples. While the Churches sometimes are plain the Temples are
beautiful.But is one needed in every county?Just wondering.Ann O'Day in Sandy
To the 11:30 and 2:58 commentator, Probably in the general vicinity of
15% of total members of the Churh live in Utah, this is a rough guess on my
part. So 10% of temples would seem low. However, not all temples have the same
capacity. Compading sizes directly does not work, because Salt Lake Temple has
rooms used for the weekly meetings of the First Presidency and 12, and then
there is the factor of temples with full laundries and cafetrias having more
non-ordiance space, but the fact that over half the temples is Utah are over
100,000 square feet (Bountiful and Mt. Timp are both 104,000) while all temples
in Mexico except Mexico City (which is about 116,000 square feet) are under
20,000 square feet (9 or the 12 temples in Mexico are 10,700 square feet, and
there is a temple smaller than that) means that the comparison of numbers of
temples is complexed and not straight forward. Then of course there is
the fact that all 15 or so temples currently officially anounced and under
construction or in planning are outside of Utah.
The new Statue Moroni, having been born again and washed of the blackening
lightening strike, looked magnificent and in true form today! It is rather
symbolic of what the Temple can do for each of us in our own lives.
Problem with "Dinner and a Movie" is that neither the Oquirrh Mountain nor the
Draper temple has a cafeteria! Indeed, the Church seems to have phased out
cafeterias in all the new temples. Looks like you'll have to "brown bag" it at
The comparative percentage of LDS members in Utah was 1.8 million in 2006, which
was approximately 16% of total membership with temples in Utah now equaling
approximately 10% of membership. Of course, temples in Utah are typically
larger, but seems like a pretty solid # correlation of temples to membership.
Just some fun stats.
Your statement doesn't make sense. There only 13 temples in Utah.I don't know what the percentage of members in Utah vs. the world is but
I'm sure the percentage is far more than the 13 temples in Utah vs. 130 temples
>Doesn't seem proportionate, does it?Personally, I don't feel that
it's wise to second guess the Lord, who sees what we don't see, and knows the
needs and abilities of everyone, everywhere.
I am pleased with the new temple and wish the saints much happiness and peace as
they attend and strive to draw closer to the Lord.
Take a Hint - and you would know that "too many of us aren't willing..." by what
13 Temples in Utah and yet there are more LDS members outside the United States
than inside it? Doesn't seem proportionate, does it?
It is a beautiful place to be, glad I was able to take the tour in.
Instead of going out to a Movie or restaurant for a spouse date, my parents have
occassionaly gone to the Temple and eaten at the cafeteria after a session.
They call it "Dinner and a Movie" and have passed on that tradition to their
children. Its a fun and uplifting spouse date each month...not to mention
Church services have been cancelled Sunday by Chuch Presidency.We
need to read between the lines and dedicate more of our time and energy in
faithful Temple Service. Too many of us treat the Temple lightly and
are not willing to set aside the time required to attend a session on a monthly
basis. However, we are willing to set aside time to go on dates with our spouse
each month. How about attend the Temple on one of these Friday night dates?
I was incredibly blessed to be in the 162 member cornerstone choir which sang
this morning during the Oquirrh Mountain Temple cornerstone placement. What an
awesome experience! The spirit of the Lord was so strong and powerful. I felt
the Lord and his angels close at hand as we celebrated through song the
dedication and placement of the cornerstone in His newest Holy edifice. I will
never forget this day and how privilaged I was to be a part of the music
welcoming the Lord to His Holy House.