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Published: Thursday, Aug. 20 2009 12:00 a.m. MDT

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C'mon Cougs!

See if you can hold the Sooners under 70 with that weak secondary. And to anyone who thinks that Cougs +21.5 is "money" you are correct. It's money for those who lay money on OK.

I'll bet it's 21-3 after 1, 31-6 after 2, then the flood gates open and it starts getting ugly.
I'd not be surprised to see at least 60 from the Sooners.
And that's not anti-BYU smack, that, my painfully puritanical friends, is REALITY.

It's going to be hard to watch. And I graduated from BYU in '99. I'm as big and blue a fan as there is, but I started losing money betting with my heart instead of my head.

Skyler in St. George

Juco Corners???

This is not good. In fact, it's VERY not good.
That means lots of attempts and opportunities for Hall and Co. and that means lots of sacks.
This is going to hurt.

Ben White

on paper, BYU is throughly outmatched. But you just never know. With a (potentially) explosive offense, they could hang, keep the OU offense off the field. We shall see. The whole MWC will be cheering for the cougs.

Ernest T Bass

A bad season is in store. DB's alone will account for 3 losses. BYU will go 8-5


I've got BYU at 8-5 too. Losses to Oklahoma, Florida State, Utah, TCU and UNLV.

C. Samuelson

I am not in favor of playing Oklahoma. I'd rather play northern iowa for a guarnteed win. That way we cougars can start the season right(eous).


8-5,,,,,,,,,,,, You had me until I read Utah and UNLV.......... NO way


Love the comments on how Oklahoma has all these guys coming back from last year. Would that include the guys on the #99-ranked Oklahoma defense? BYU's defense, as bad as it was, was 74th. BYU was #1 in the country last year on 1st down, which leads to short yardage opportunities on 2nd and 3rd down, which leads to 1st downs, which leads to controlling the clock and keeping the OU offense off the field. Even the Ute fans know that BYU was making last year's rivalry game a nail-biter as long as the Cougs kept the ball on the ground (8.something yards per carry for the game). It was only when Anae started calling for more passes from Max that things fell apart.

You still win the games by scoring more points, and if BYU can hold onto the ball and score points against the 99th-best defense in 1-A football, they have a good chance at winning this one.


Blue Boy, a "Heisman Prospect" I believe he won... Oh and now he is running the option as well. So the best QB, TE, LT in the country on offense. The best DT, Gerald McCoy, and DE rotation in the country. The other guys are just all Big-12! I dont think anyone on BYU would scratch our 2 deep.


Bronco and practice observers say that this year's corners are in fact better. Aguirre had 11 picks and something like 4 blocked kicks in JC ball. He's insanely athletic.

BYU's best corner last year was Scott Johnson. He started at the more cerebrally challenging boundary corner spot and played reasonably well. He could be moved back to that spot at any time if there is a need and the best safety to ever come out of Utah HS football (Craig Bills) could fill his spot. The fact that this hasn't yet happened tells me Bronco is pretty darn pleased with Aguirre. The fact that Aguirre is still playing boundary when he was recruited as a field corner tells me he's pretty happy with Logan too. Eason may have the most potential of any, but it may be best to redshirt him. At some point he will be a starter and likely all-MWC performer.

To: Boomer

You're starting to sound like those arrogant Alabama fans that led to the beat down of the tide. Keep it up.

take your hiatus now

I would take your year to hand out bibles now......sooners are going to roll.....give you all the benefit of the doubt 56 - 10.....Sooners.


To: optimist
If bills is the best safety ever to come out of Utah high school why isn't he starting, or does that just prove that cougar coaches are poor recruiters and Timpview players are overrated. It seems there are 2 guys from Utah high schools that are ahead of him on the depth chart. The fact is Weber States top 7 defensive backs are better than YBU's top 7 defensive backs. Living with it is rough isn't it.

Speed and Athleticism....

BYU had trouble with speedy,athletic teams last year. Although they did recruit several fast athletes, they won't make a significant impact this early.

TCU and Utah proved that it takes more speed and more athleticism to compete with the big boys. It will take Bronco several more years of solid recruiting to catch TCU and Utah. 21.5 points is probably fair. BYU lost by 25 to TCU and 24 to Utah last year. Don't forget, TCU lost by 25 points to Oklahoma last year with all their speed and athleticism.

Don't expect any miracles this year. The lack of speed was exposed last year by faster, more athletic teams.


BYU should do the OBvious:

Recruit big fast recievers and convert them to cornerbacks.

5'9 corners can not cover the 6'3 recievers!


I am a Sooner, born and raised, and a life-long fan of OU. I am glad that Stoops and OU work out games with schools such as BYU that are strong teams - and that , yes, do not get the respect they deserve. We may play one gratuitous weak team OOC each year, to help that team bring in the majority of their football revenue for the year, but OU does not regularly schedule to play outclassed teams to rack up sure victories. Scheduling BYU is serious and lays it on the line. This should be a good game. I am sorry if you cannot now bring the best of your best to the game, but this happens to everyone in big games. And, as a previous poster stated: Win or lose you can hold up your heads, and you will be the stronger team for it even with a loss. No cup cakes!! I respect youyr program and what you have done and do, year by year. And I think a lot a people out there respect your school and conference more than you think or know.

Re. Anonymous

I think your right. a lot of people make this out to be more than it is. college football is great, no matter what it looks like on paper you still have to play the game. demographics boys, demographics. from what population base is BYU drawing its recruits ? and what for Oklahoma ? if you are looking at this from a purely on paper perspective , BYU has no chance. However, thats why we play the games. YOU NEVER NO WHAT CAN HAPPEN. first game of the season last year Tom Brady go's down taking the patriots hopes with him. How foolish it is for MWC teams fans to root against teams in its own conference. What happend to Alabama last year against the Utes ? if you think the Utes are that much better than BYU you are just being foolish. BYU has been a dominate team in the MWC and the Wac for a long time. Prior to last year they were back to back MWC champs with no conference losses. WAKE UP ! and put down your prejudices. Get behind your MWC teams and wish them all the best, Until they play your team.


JUCO corners on opening day against OK.

They will both be so "tight" you could use them for guitar strings.

One or two bombs thrown over or under these two might make them tentative all year.

BYU's 59-0 whitewash of UCLA might look like a competitive game compared to what awaits the COUGARS in Texas.


Boomer, I agree Oklahoma has more paper talent than BYU, but your statement about nobody on BYU cracking your 2-deep is a bit insane. I'll bet the following would all be on your 2-deep and your coaches would readily admit as much.

Max Hall
Harvey Unga (would start)
Manase Tonga
Dennis Pitta
Andrew George
Matt Reynolds (would start)
RJ Willing (would start)
Terence Brown
Nick Alletto
McKay Jacobsen (would start)
O'Neill Chambers

Riley Stephenson (would start)

Jan Jorgensen (would start)
Vic So'oto
Russell Tialavea
Brett Denney
Andrew Rich (would start)
Brandon Bradley

There is a reason that Oklahoma is and should be favored. That reason is superiority in the secondary and at LB. However, I think you will find that BYU's DL will give your OL trouble and that BYU's OL is better than any others in the Big 12 sans Texas. The BYU team you will face in Dallas is probably deeper and more talented than the Boise State team you lost to in the Fiesta Bowl. Games like that are why we bother to line up...


"Ummm" needs to read Dick Harmon's column about the supposedly "weak" defenses in the Big 12. He might be surprised to learn that, statistically speaking, OU had the third best defense in the league (99th against the pass, not total defense, btw.) Texas and Nebraska were marginally better (although the vaunted Texas team was even worse against the pass). Does the Big 12 have lousy defenses? Hardly. These top teams have great defenses. So what gives? Last year (and this year, too ) the Big 12 had really dynamic offenses and gifted quarterbacks (McCoy, Harrell, Daniel, Reesing, Freeman, Robinson, and, of course, Bradford) running spread offenses. Example: OU played Missouri 3 times in two years and beat them every time, but Chase Daniel and WR Jeremy Macklin still racked up the yards. BYU fans, of all people, should know why: A properly executed spread offense with superior players is impossible to shut down completely.

Bad news, Cougar fans: OU played Texas Tech late in the season when Tech was ranked #1 in the country and Graham Harrell led the nation in passing offense. What happened? OU crushed them, 65 to 21. The same defense take the field against BYU.

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