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Audit says Utah has an outdated system for finding fraud and abuse

Published: Wednesday, Aug. 19 2009 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Fraud and Waste???

How can this be? This is run by the government right?

Darn, and I had such high hopes for them running an efficient "govt option" for healthcare coverage!!

NOT!!!!

You have to be near idiot status to not acknowledge the government is consistently HORRIBLE at administering almost everything they do.

The waste they get away with is almost incalculable yet you have mindless democrats lining up to give them more control under the deranged belief that somehow this time they will do it better.

The definition of stupid:

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Its the Democrat motto.

Who?

Who will lose their job over this waste?

Nobody because it is government. They always have an excuse as to why they could do nothing about the waste and inefficiency. They keep their jobs and we keep paying for their waste.

A truly symbiotic relationship.

Why we trust these legislators/govt entities to run anything is beyond me.

We need term limits NOW. The first term would need to be about 24 hrs and it ought to be renewed daily by the representatives constituents.

Do what we say or you are out.

Instead lobbyists run everything in govt. That is why we end up with legislation that makes everyone go huh? It is not written for you it is written for the people who promise to fund the campaign for re election.

Get ready for more of the same until the system changes.

What a joke!!!

Nation health plan??

And there are those that think that by magic this would not be the case in a nation health run plan. If there is a national plan it will have more fraud and waste more tax payers money than anything the govt. has ever provided. Also add another entitlement that many think they deserve.

Anonymous

Here is the perfect example of why so many of us are against having the government interfering in health care. How obvious can it be that government can't manage ANYTHING without fraud, corruption, & waste???

who is causing the waste?

Granted, the government needs to do better at monitoring this. But you know what's required...more regulation. It's the doctors and insurance companies committing the fraud on the system.

re:who is causing the waste

Certainly some is the doctors and insurance companies fraud but NO WAY is fraud the majority of the problem. Truthfully, as a career individual in the healthcare field, doctors and companies are buried in government regulation and yet it still happens. Most of the regulation is old, outdated, and ineffective. The govt just piles more on top. You can't hardly wade through all the regulation if you work with the govt.

WASTE is the bigger problem though. It never ceases to amaze me how most private companies NEVER approach the levels of waste the govt does.

It comes down to one primary difference.

Companies care about the money because it is their own and it affects results/performance/earnings.

Government does not care because they are spending someone elses money SO they always have lousy results/performance/lose money.

Not too difficult to see why.

JT

My disabled daughter is on Medicaid, and if I could put the rest of my kids on it, I would.

4:36

As a 30 something, I'm glad to know that so many of you who are against government run health care will NOT be enrolling in Medicare when you turn 65! You will be true patriots and buy your own health insurance - good thing to plan on since the program is supposed to be bankrupt is several years anyway. I don't understand why it has to be one or the other - insurance companies with fat paychecks or government waste. I would like a blended approach. Similar to the section 8 housing program. Everyone has to buy insurance and pay for it with their own money and pay their own bills - up to a percentage of their income. If they get a S.S. check it comes out of that, if they get a paycheck it comes out of that. BUT, if their medical bills exceeds the percentage of their income that is determined fair - the government steps in and pays the remainder of the bill. So, a family making $50,000. a year don't have to sell their home or go bankrupt if Mommy gets cancer BUT if you make millions of dollars, you pay your share

only for the select few

I don't know anybody on medicaide that complains about it. I know several Glen Beck/Fox news fans that have children or grandchildren on medicaide. There is a ton of waste and corruption in medicaide! We need a VERY stringent program that only allows for procedures that are necessary. No more ER visits for ear infections. I know a family that do that ALL THE TIME - they don't have to pay for it - they don't care what it costs. I think we should also require mothers to name the father's of their babies before we enroll them in medicaide to make sure the Father's are paying the state for at least some of expenses. There are a lot of things that could be done to make medicaide work - and if EVERYONE was a part of it - you would have more people pressuring the politicians to make it work.

Future!

Folks welcome to government sponsored health care! Corruption, waste and inefficiencies abound! Just say no!

Ridgerunner

More proof that the government can not run healthcare! Even if Obama says, "yes we can".

dewey

It's nice to see both arguments on here, I would have thought it would have been totally one sided.

I agree something has to change, to blame the government is not accurate, it's the bad physicians who have found a cash cow that to date has no repercussions for illegal activity.

An overhaul of the whole structure of compensation for medical profsessionals is badly needed. Our current structure of increased income based on uneeded tests, prescriptions, and treatments just to drive up the bill. It's sad that we the public have put up with it for so long. Yes it get's brought up about every 10 years for the last 60 years but never goes anywhere. We should be furious that we're held hostage to the premiums we're charged to have insurance only to be denied claims, because we went to the wrong doctor. This should never be acceptable to a society, yet here we put up with it time and again.

Here's something to consider: Do you think the insurance companies, or your government are more worried about your health care costs and services?


Corruption?

If you think corruption in Medicare and Medicaid is bad, just wait until you get national health coverage! Part of the corruption is that these programs are exponentially more costly than we were told they would be, just like Obamacare will be! Don't buy this people, it is an invitation to waste, corruption and abuses!

corruption?

Corruption - what do you think Medicare and Medicaid are??? They are national health coverage - for MILLIONS of Americans - granted not all Americans - but a very large number of our population use it and LOVE it. My Grandma depends on in, my parents have to wait until they are eligible for it before they can retire because they would have "pre-existing" conditions that would make private insurance too expensive. If you truly believe in LESS government you would be demanding a change in health care. Nothing has been done for years. More and more of our tax dollars are going to fund these programs - our government is getting BIGGER, not smaller. I'm not necessarily a Obama fan, but at least he's trying to do SOMETHING. The republicans would run this country into the ground before they would see Obama succeed. Rebulicans just rant about how much they hate Obama, and make up nonsense about "death panels" They had 8 years to make positive changes, and they did nothing. Palin should take her own advice and "stop making things up" and republicans should stop griping and start coming up with ideas...

get real

To "only for the select few" and JT....of course nobody on medicaid is complaining...it's free!!! Jt would sign her whole family up because...it's free!!!! Entitlements will be the ruin of this country.

doctor

as a practicing physician, it is nearly impossible to get many very necessary tests approved with medicaid; most of us don't want to deal with medicaid as all of the government redtape involved makes it so that the overhead costs more than it is worth.

the fraud is likely not fraud but government waste.

We indeed need reform, but I have not seen any type of reform proposed, just more of the same waste.

Alternative

I purchased a catastrophic health insurance policy for my family that I am pleased with. Yes, it has high deductatbles and it only pays 85% but I am happy to have it. My monthly premiums fit my budget and I sleep at night. For the usual doctor visits, I pay out of my pocket. If we want health care, we are going to pay for it, either in very high taxes or the way I am. If we think the government will do a better job than you can, read the article and ask yourself if you really believe you can get "free" healthcare? Nothing is free, but this you can believe in; Government sponsored health care will not be cheap, especially when it is always full of waste, inefficencies and corruption. There is no such thing as "free health care".

JMT

One correction, you don't say "yes we can!" You must chant it like some ritual, which was very unnerving to me when I heard it in Chicago. I know some found it reassuring. Many others like myself did not.

In any case, if you think this fraud is bad pass Obama-care and watch it grow into tens of billions.

The concept of fraud is that you aren't making enough money so you do something illegal to increase the amount of money in your pocket.

Once the government decides how much doctors, clinics, and hospitals make the fraud will follow. Or they will simply move to other countries. Research the growing shortage of doctors and nurses in England and Canada. Many great doctors are moving to Mexico, and the Far East for the freedom to practice. It is a trickle now, pass Obama-care and it will become a torrent.

Socialism does not thrive, at best survive.

No wonder...

we can't win a war. The government runs the military, and it's FULL of fraud, waste, and corruption!

Medicar & Medicaid

These two health care programs were created to be a health care program for retirees, not general public welfare. Medicare, medicaid, and SS were doing just fine as a private individual program until congress decided they wanted the money to balance the national budget. It helped that but then when they got their hands on the private accounts lobbyist decided it was for general public welfare, not americans and retirees on SS.

Medicare and Medicaid are nearing bankruptcy because of 20 million illegal aliens are stealing our private account funds for free health care.

These three programs that every tax payer pays in to are private accounts for every individual that has paid in to it and have legal SSN's. The only way to save these programs for everyone's retirement is to re-establish them as private accounts that belong to those paying in to them and not for congress to steal. They are private savings accounts that are being stolen and abused by congress.

The under thirty generation do not understand that these accounts are their personal property for retirement and it is being stolen from them and their parents, the real fraud being committed.

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