Preliminary deal reached on controversial aquifer
As I understood from the public meeting today, this whole agreement supposes
that there is a certain amount of "excess" water in the Snake Valley - water
left over after all the current users take what they need. The amount of
"excess" water is in question, amounts from 107,000 to 132,000 acre feet per
year. This plan has been discussed for 20 years now. Let's just take a very
conservative number, say 100,000 AFY. If there was really that much "Excess"
water each year for the last 20 years, why is the Snake Valley still a desert?
With that much excess water, why isn't it a swamp? To say there is that much
water that can be siphoned off without being noticed, it's just not logical!
Nevada is the driest state in the US, Utah is the second driest state. Utah
would be selling its most limited and most precious resource to Nevada under the
Snake Valley Agreement. It saddens me to see our state surrendering its limited
valuable resource and sovereignty to another state that will set a bad
precedent. The limited water is worth more that gold or oil. Both states are
currently experiencing serious drought. Additional hydrological studies on the
availability of water must be completed before signing of the agreement, and
agreement should not be signed on a best guess estimate. The response of "we
won't know how much water is available until we start pumping" is a very
dangerous and unacceptable answer. This could be a case of "environmental
racism". I encourage the public to notify the Governor to take a very hard look
and consider the serious consequences before signing the UT/NV agreement.
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FLYING-WATER or HINDENBERG-EFFECT or HYDROGEN or TERRAFORMING or
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PRINGLE, "NUCLEAR-POWER: FROM PHYSICS TO P O L I T I C S",
I'm sad for Utah and their obediance to the almighty dollar and their
willingness to sell out the interests of their citizens. This
decision is wrong. There is no good future outcomes for the citizens of Snake
Valley and for Utah as a whole. Governor Herbert's first act should
be to not sign this proposal. It should drag out in court. Let Nevada get their
water for greed living elsewhere.
As a native Nevadan, and a long time Utah resident this deal hurts in many ways.
First of all, LV should not get any water from the Sierra Nevadas, that is
essential for No. Nevada and parts of Northern CA. In case anyone thinks that
the residents of the Snake Valley are going to side with LV just because they
all live in Nevada, well, the reality is Southern Nevada is like a whole
different state, the proverbial 800 lb. gorilla. Maybe the Southern Nv.
politicians should be dropped off in Baker NV with nothing but a smile and see
how far that gets them with all the good old ranchers in the valley. Boycott
They're not "stealing it" if Utah officials are letting them have it!Let the governor and/or head of the Utah Division of Natural Resources know
this is NOT acceptable!
It is time for Nevada and Las Vegas to understand that maintaining the city is
unsustainable. they should deal with their own water issues and not steal the
neighbors. There is no difference between a horse theif and a water theif.
Hey Utah-Thanks for rolling over and playing dead! Now we can steal your
water with impunity!
Nor can you drink (or use) water that has been piped to Vegas!Wake
Communities--like individuals--should live within their means, when it comes to
money and water. Is there any doubt this agreement will lead to the piping of
water to Las Vegas in 10 years? The delay for "study" is such a transparent
attempt to make this water theft more palatable. Water is our most
valuable resource. While prospects exist to develop alternative energy, there
are none to develop alternative water. It is very short-sighted to give up our
water like this.
Wow, Nevada made out like a bandit in this deal. One look at the map and you
can see that way less than 50% of Snake Valley lies in Nevada. How did the Utah
negotiators let the Nevada negotiators rob them blind on this.
we're just diverting the damage to 10 years from now. by then vegas will really
need the water and there will be no stopping it then.
Have you ever been to Snake Valley? I have, at least a half-a-dozen times in my
life. The Deep Creek Mountains are higher than any mountain along the Wasatch
Front. It has native trout in many streams that flow year round coming Eastward
from the mountains.NONE of the water underground should go to
Nevada. If the aquafer is on the Utah side, it should remain in Utah. The
supposed wisdom of splitting the baby in half will kill the baby.A
good share of the water Las Vegas now uses comes from Utah. And yet Las Vegas
uses a lion's share of that water! Let's take that water and split it
50-50!!!Allowing the pipeline to be built is allowing Utah water to
go to Nevada–plain & simple. Squash the pipeline! (I know that the
pipeline is a 'job maker'. But it is also a 'water taker' - which is WRONG)!Pipe the water from the Sierra Nevadas! Much of the water originates in
Nevada there. Get it before it gets to California!!!
The people in Utah had better wake up and protect their water. The world is
getting hotter and dryer and we need water for food production not another golf
course in Los Vegas. If they need/want more water let them make better use of
what they have.
in Nevada gives them a claim on the ground water. What claims do Nevada and
California have on the Colorado river water? How much of that water orginates in
Nevada or California? How much originates in Colorado or Utah?
Auqafirs should have a limit on how far water can be piped to other users. Then
what about other states and cities that this auqafirs provide for? The over
development of cities beyond their local water supplies does not justify their
actions to steal it from other city's and inhabitants.Living and
developing within the resources of a city should be cause to limit development
and stop this madness going on in america. America is drying up its own
resources and killing our ranchers and farmers and putting our food supply out
of business. We need safe food more than we need development. And why don't the
business and water mongers move closer to their supplies of water? These
auqafirs belong to the closest users and not others living hundreds or thousands
of miles away. Look at what California has done to its people and
the severe drought they are suffering from now. They have no other place to
steal water from now and all their best laid plans are falling apart. Unlike
many other eastern states that have larger water resources, these desert states
are limited and should act and behave within reason and resources.
Let me be the first to say that this is a very bad deal for Utah.Everyone Utahn
should be mad at this thing and get out and voice their concerns.This deal
highly favors Nevada for all future water concerns and developement and will
probably leave our beautiful Western desert nothing more than an ugly dust
bowl.Ranchers will eventually be forced out and their water rights will be taken
by Nevada.I suspect 1 of 2 people are being paid under the table in Utah
for this lousy deal to even be considered.