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Mormon temple worship similar to other religions

Anonymous | 12:40 a.m. Aug. 8, 2009

And because something was written it is true? Of course not. So how do we know truth? Feelings? Some problems with feelings are they are manipulated by your mind, desires, and indoctrinations.

Anonymous | 8:33 a.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Anon, I hope you're an agnostic and not an atheist. I have respect for agnostics who say, "I don't know". I don't have respect for atheists who say there is no god because they have no physical evidence of a god. If god does exist, there is no reason to expect that he or she or it exists in our physical world. There is no reason to expect that scientists have the instrumentation to detect the presence of god.

Scientists have no evidence that god exists. Is that lack of evidence due to god not existing? Is that lack of evidence due to having instruments that can not detect energy radiating from god? "I don't know" is a valid answer to those questions. Acceptance of the first answer, that god does not exist, is not only illogical, it is dishonest. Acceptance of the second answer isn't much better, but it at least recognizes that current instrumentation is limited to the physical world.

To Anonymous | 8:49 a.m. Aug. 8, 2009

You are still out there trying to tear down everything to do with Mormonism? Really Christian like.

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JAYEG | 9:22 a.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Re: To Anonymous

Anonymous at 12:40 has a valid point. I don't see where he/she is trying to tear down everything to do with Mormonism.

When an individual has been trained from early childhood to accept and embrace certain beliefs...it is a given that he/she is going to feel very strongly about those beliefs.

I have known individuals who were so fully convinced of the correctness of their own personal religious beliefs, that they 'knew' without a shadow of a doubt that THEIR Church was true...and the only true Church on the face of the earth.

These individuals had little patience with anyone whose beliefs differed from their own...and with anyone whose level of understanding differed from their own.

The Apostle Paul offered a solution. Let everyone be fully convinced of the Lord in his own mind, and in his own understanding.

This is a forum for discussion. Please try to drop the overly defensive posture and add something to the discussion.

How would you do it? | 9:42 a.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Anon, let's play a "what if" game. Let's pretend that you're a god and that you exist in a state that is not this physical world. You've created this world by following the laws of physics that control the matter of this world. By following the laws of physics, you've left no trace of your existence. There is no way that scientists can know of you, because all they see and study are the laws of physics. So, how would you let people of this world know of your existence?

Anonymous | 9:43 a.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Christians don't worship in temples.

Hoosier | 10:03 a.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Christians don't worship in temples? We ahve an apostolic temple by a black church, we have a temple of prayer by a non-denominational church. And others. It is not what you (or God) calls a temple, but what it means, what you do in it. So your ever so sly but dishonest dig at Mormons belittles all Christianity.

Elliot | 1:15 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

It is all a bunch on nonsense: if there is a God then He is much grater than any church or religion so go inside your own mind and talk with him. Why tolerate all the hoax of phony church and religion, unless you like the social company. I doubt God is all that impressed.

Matt | 2:29 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

The funny thing is that everybody (and I mean EVERYBODY) KNOWS that they are right! I don't mean they THINK that they are right.....they KNOW that they are right. Nobody would have burned people at the stake if they just thought that they were right - they KNEW it. People wouldn't fly planes into buildings if they just THOUGHT that they were right - they KNEW it!

Here's a newsflash folks: NOT EVERYBODY CAN BE RIGHT.

And as far as temple worship being like other religions, well now that is a stretch of the imagination.

Just a member | 3:55 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

to jayeg:

I was not raised in the LDS church but rather in a protestant church. Even as a young child I knew that there was something missing there. Even into my teens and young adult live I knew that there was still something not right.

I joined the LDS church as a young adult and went inactive many time for various reasons. Even in those inactive periods I knew that that LDS church was the true church that Heavenly Father intented for his children to receive instruction.

No one forced me to come back to church. I did it on my own. When I did my life became better. Sure there are times today that I think about going inactive but this is caused by the things going on in my life and the way I feel about people in it. For the last few weeks I have seriously thought about not going - but I went and my life was blest because of it.

Biblical Times | 4:00 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Even during the time of Christ there was a difference in what went on in the synagoges and jewish temples. Only those who were deemed worthy could enter the temple whereas anyone including a stranger could enter a synagoge.

There is a story about a wedding that many couldn't attend in the temple because they didn't have the 'marriage garment'. Look it up -

Well... | 4:30 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

we are all entitled to our opinions. Whatever side of the spectrum you are on, more power to ya...

zzman | 4:45 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Are Mormons Jews or Muslims or Egyptians...? Very confusing--this whole restored thing!

Christians and Temples | 5:07 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Didn't Jesus teach in the temple? Didn't he refer to it as His Father's House? Just a thought.

Re:zzman | 5:09 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Mormons are the Jews of the ninteenth century, don't you get that! They are obviously the 'chosen' ones.

To: zzman | 5:53 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Some are, yes. I have some Jewish ancestry, among others. But when the LDS church talks about the restoration of the gospel, it's just that: the priesthood power that was given to the Twelve Apostles by Jesus Christ, through the laying on of hands, was restored to the earth after it had been taken away.

The Catholic church believes that it was never taken away, and that they still have that priesthood power, through the Vatican. However, if you look at some of the Popes that church had a few centuries ago, people buying the Papacy, murdering others to get it, having scores of mistresses on the side, etc., it's not easy for some people to believe that those men were indeed worthy holders of the priesthood. (The vast majority of the Popes have been wonderful, devout, godly men, though.) Other Christian denominations tend to believe that the priesthood was lost or corrupted, and that they just have to go back to the way things were/should be, and that it'd be restored that way. Mormons believe that God had to physically restore the priesthood to the earth. That's the difference.

re: To: zzman|5:53 | 6:16 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Bring down the catholics to build up yourselves? Hmmm..., interesting and I guess you think you Christian too.

SFC RET DENNIS | 6:19 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

My daughter grow up in the church and two years after leaving home she left the church, her choose, however just cause one grows up in a church does not mean they stay, she was very strong and active till she de-sided to leave it for a life without God.
I had a good conversation with two gentlemen from a different church today, I did not agree with some of the things he said and so I just calmly said we can agree to disagree and he too was polite, I never told him he was wrong and he never said I was wrong and this is how a conversation should be when talking with people of a different faith, the important thing is that you believe in God.

re: Bibical times | 6:21 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

("Marriage garment" MT 22:11) It was the custom of the host to provide the guests with wedding garments,these guest were brought in from the streets vv 9,10.
The Parable of the Wedding Banquet (Matttew 22:2-14)
Jesus is warning the Jews that refusal to accept God's invitation would result in their rejection and the inclusion of the gentiles instead.(v14), "for many are invited ,but few are chosen"

Anonymous | 6:35 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

The mormon God worship in temples is not the one I know.

sutton | 6:45 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

"the important thing is that you believe in God."

Why is that the important thing?

Isn't the important thing to "be good", "respect others", and treat others the way you want to be treated??? "Religion" doesn’t have a monopoly on *goodness*... remember Evil can be done in the name of God...

Anonymous | 6:46 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Zeus, Apollo and the mormon jesus are all revered in temples. To bad but Christians do not worship in temples.

re: 6:15 p.m. | 6:46 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

"Bring down the catholics to build up yourselves?"

That's not the impression I got from that post. The commentor didn't say anything that wasn't true. Most of the popes HAVE been devout, godly men, but there have also been a few popes who were pretty evil. John II turned the Vatican into a brothel. Stephen VI dug up the body of the previous pope, dismembered it, then threw it in the river. Benedict IX was charged with adultery, homosexuality, murder, beastiality, rape and selling the papacy twice. Alexander VI was head of the Borgia family. They're rare exceptions, but they're also considered successors to the priesthood authority.

The majority of Christian religions in the world disagree with the Catholic belief that they still have the proper authority and priesthood power that they originally had. The entire idea behind the Reformation was that the truth had been corrupted, and that things had to be brought back to the way they were. That idea was around for hundreds of years before Joseph Smith was even born. Either you agree with Catholic authority, or you don't. Disagreeing with it doesn't mean you hate Catholics.

To: Anonymous | 6:46 p.m. | 6:59 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

"Zeus, Apollo and the mormon jesus are all revered in temples. To bad but Christians do not worship in temples."

Christ and His Apostles worshipped in temples, even after the Resurrection. If the Apostles felt that being Christian included worshipping in the temple, doesn't that mean it's something that should be included in Christianity?

RE: SFC RET Dennis | 7:00 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

"The important thing is that you beleive in God."
James 2:19 Thou beleivest that there is one God;thou doest well; the devil also beleives and trembles."
The devil beleives in God and trembles,beleif in God does not save one,but trust in one God (Monotheism)of the Bible does.

Splitting Hairs? | 8:10 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

"Evil can be done in the name of God... "

Evil in the name of God, the Devil, or a 67 Mustang is still evil.

Existentialist Elmo | 9:01 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

I don't believe in God or the Bible so please quit citing them as "proof" that you are right. I don't believe in Zeuss or Apollo either. Have you even considered that "God" does not exist?

To E Elmo | 9:17 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

Existentialist Elmo | 9:01 p.m. Aug. 8, 2009

I just read what you wrote in response to someone's post. I think it is fine believe what you want. What I find interesting is that you seem offended by someone else's belief. And that is okay too.

Anonymous | 9:26 p.m. Aug. 9, 2009

To all of you that say science does not believe in god. You all need to study the big bang theory and make sure you focus on inflation. Yes it is the big bang theory + inflation. O.k. first of all if god ever lived in a world similar to ours. Then yes there would of had to have been similar laws, like gravity etc. second science says the universe is 13.8 billion years old BUT we recognize that we can only look back 13.7 because the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light.Bottom line WE AS SCIENTIST DO BELIEVE THAT GOD COULD EXIST, WE SIMPLY STATE THAT WE, AND YES I MEAN ME PERSONALLY, HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM.

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