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Hundreds gather to oppose land being sold to highest bidder
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There is NO one living in Berry Knoll, except a few people. FLDS never planned on doing anything with the land. So, sell it, pay off debt, and move on!!
This trust allowed FLDS to abuse families. To kick fathers out of their homes, and if the remaining wives wanted to have a place to stay, with all their kids, they had to accept what ever new husband was appointed to them.
This trust allowed FLDS leaders to kick young teen boys out of their homes and their community to either fend for themselves or to have the rest of society pay for their upkeep.
Just because some FLDS rally to keep the trust, doesn't mean its right. The trust gives power, and power in the hands of people who abuse power isn't a good thing.
When I leave the state, and tell people I'm from Utah. The number one reply is, "How many wives do you have?", and I tell them that kind of stuff doesn't happen anymore. Boy, was I wrong! What are the chance's the prosecutor/prosecutor's are LDS? Who knows and really........WHO CARES?
Mr Shurtleff's remarks are very Racist in nature!
He is distinquishing who live in this community himself by basing it on religious reasons.
In other words, if your not FLDS, you are banned from living in FLDS religious towns. That's racist Mr Shurtleff, very racist based on Religion!
To All is right on. When a trust owns the house and land you are living on, you are never quite sure what the leadership will decide about you and your family. If you have a pretty daughter that the leadership wants....well then too bad for you. This is tyranny at its worst and takes away the freedom of these people. The more that is done to give individuals control over their property and families the better. I wouldn't think that God is pleased with the unrighteous dominion that Warren Jeffs inflicted on this group. Their logic is certainly flawed. The leaders ask too much of the people.
I have nothing but sympathy for the FLDS people. For the most part, they are polite and industrious people.
It's time to let these people be and to give them back their land.
Afford them every right under the constitution. But that doesn't mean that I still don't get the creeps looking at these people.
You must have been wearing an eye patch over both eyes for the entire time you were living in Utah if you can make the statement "that kind of stuff does not go on there anymore" It goes on all over the place from Magna to Wasatch Blvd, from Logan to Provo to even further, way down south and I never met anyone that didn't know that. The thousands of kids in the supermarkets / malls with braids and jeans and long dresses .. did that not give it away a little bit Sherlock ;-)
If the women and children are so abused by their church - why are they at the rally?
Why didn't the FLDS fathers and boys who are going to be "kicked out", jump at the chance for the reformed trust and their titles to their property.
Uh - maybe because they want to stay apart of the FLDS religion - the greater damage here is for the government to declare people who even BELIEVE polygamy is right to lose their rights to participate in a religion without fear of losing their property and their children. This is a far more dangerous train of thought than these people marrying multiple wives or allowing church leaders to "mismanage" communal property. Wake Up. People excusing the abuse of government is far more dangerous to the nation than people declaring a religion to be abusive because it goes against mainstream feminist dominated thought patterns. Wake up - the precedent is a lot more dangerous than the FLDS.
Berry Knoll: they owned the land the state is selling it out from under them
To Theeyepatch: not all kids you described in your post are flds
im suppose to be illegal but so are these guys!!
Wait a minute...where are the people who choose to practice homosexuality? Why aren't they out protesting for equal rights (which they already have) and the right for adults to do whatever they want with marriage? Do they really care about the right for adults to do whatever they want with marriage or just their own gratification? I'm confused.
Why do you have such a problem with polygamy? If these men wanted to marry other men, instead of more than one woman, you would think they were "cool" and "modern" and you would stand up for their right to be different.
Why do polygamists deserve less respect than homosexuals?
Where do I apply for the job of taking over the trust of someone else's land and then charge them 3 million to take care of their land and then sell off their land to pay my 4 yr. long job of taking care of their land?
There are perceptions, and there are misperceptions. Yet, one thing that remains clear, regardless of one's perceptions or recognition of reality, is that those who refuse to obey natural law have placed themselves beyond its protection.
To: Tigerlily
"They" didn't own the land. The UEP does. That's the whole point! FLDS members and their descendents don't own anything - they are all merely beneficiaries of the UEP.
What a freak show! Move along folks, there's nothing to see here.
Polygamy is biblical and as a Christian Society, we find it repugnant. Homosexuality is also written about in the bible and we have new laws granting equal rights to partners in these relationships. I find it all mostly amusing, but likely because I am agnostic and enjoy seeing the clear hypocrisy especially when the most religious battle the hardest against polygamy.
Church owns nothing either and is not a bene.
To follow Marks flawed reasoning, and give the UEP, and control over 10000 people to a convicted sex offender, is beyond the pale.
Thankfully better decisions are being made.
BTW, the Berry Knoll and the rest of the UEP was stolen from the CP group in the first place.
Perhaps its Kharma, baby!
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