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I took a fairly devout muslim through the Draper Temple Open House and he too commented that Islam has a lot in common with the LDS church; moreso than other Christian faiths.
I have a good friend who told me about going to a university in New York. He was appalled by the drug addicts that hung out in the doorways. When he heard about BYU he spoke to a counselor about transferring, the counselor told him "you don't want to go there, you can't drink at BYU." He didn't need any more encouragement and he loved his time at BYU. We do have a lot in common.
I am mormon and married to a muslim. I often say there are alot of similiarities between the faiths but there is also more fundamental differences in our relationship to diety. a muslim will never bow down to christ. I think a christian of any denomination will bow down to Christ.
For mormons, we are acting "christ like" by doing humanitarian service. For muslims, they are doing the work of God. Semantics..perhaps..but it would be sinful to suggest to a muslim that their acts of service are christlike. its not about doctrine or beliefs...it is about putting all that aside and just plain helping people in need. Something I wish we were better at in the Salt Lake Valley.
Funny thing. The most "Christian" person I know is a Jew. She lives the Golden Rule as Christ would. It is not just tenets of a religion, it is how one lives. Many of my fellow LDS members should do more on living it, not just giving it lip service.
It shouldn't be too shocking that the most "Christian" person you know is a Jew. Jesus was a Jew too. Like Christ, I'm sure she knows that a good example is worth more than blanket condemnations of peoples' perceived shortcomings.
Ah, the old "My fellow LDS members" ploy again! What would you people do in life without a whipping boy? I suppose you would have to self-abort, do to your excessive misery.
Cosmo---what would You do without a whipping boy like the LDS Church? Do you ever do any of the Myriad Humanitarian things the Church and it's members do to help their fellow man? Being a self-appointed critic is easier I suppose.
Similarities,
"I took a fairly devout muslim through the Draper Temple Open House and he too commented that Islam has a lot in common with the LDS church; moreso than other Christian faiths."
Yes, there are similarities:
- Nephi would have made a perfect member of the Taliban in beheading Laban!
- Latter-day Saints deprive US citizens of their civil rights (to marry) based on religious bigotry, just like Islamic fanatics do!
- Mormons have the "Book of Mormon" that they claim is from god, and Muslims have the "Quran" that they claim is from god. [Don't anybody tell the Mormons that the Quran says their Book of Mormon is of the devil, and don't tell the Muslims that the Mormons think their Quran is a work of fiction!]
Yes, I can see how Mormons have a LOT in common with Muslims - they are BOTH religious FANATICS!
Re: Anonymous @ 8:20 and Cosmo both seem to have some underlying issues.
Anonymous 12:19 sure does sounf like some unhappy gay, who feels that their licentious behavior must be acceptable. It is not.
Being a Jew by ancestry (my mother was a Jew) and 5th generation Mormon I am very suspicious of Islam, but some dialogue with the more sensible of them is good.
There are a lot of reasons why people help people. I saw my mother help others (she was not Mormon) because she felt compassion and wanted to assist. Most LDS that I know help others because they are compassionate, not because they read about some doctrine that morning.
I can understand why some would criticize the LDS. Some people just can't stand to see others succeeding.
Why is it whenever someone does something good there is always someone out there, like COSMO,to tear it down?
Great story and reminder about the humanitarian efforts of the LDS church and Islamic relief, the cooperation that can and does occur among various churches, and the much good that comes from it. Many of the recent disasters such as the Tsunami and Katrina have demonstrated how important religious organizations are at providing relief. The government organizations weren't capable of getting it all done, it was the religious groups that stepped up and made a huge difference at providing necessities, medical help, etc.
There are those who disagree with the positions of the LDS church, which is fine. But those who will not acknowledge the great good the LDS and other churches of the world accomplish have blinded themselves.
...succession of authority. Sunni and Shia dispute to this day whether or not the prophet should be followed by a blood relative or trusted advisor.
Say, when do we get a crusade?
Who's going to convert who. Neither side will be satisfied untill they heave driven each other crazy trying to convert them.
I am pleased that the LDS Church is working side by side with Islamic Relief. We all need to work together in this world to help when tragedy or hardship occurs. The Golden Rule applies to everyone and it only creates good when we can work together with people of a different view. We all need to get our of our comfort zones and do the right thing.
To matt,
"those who will not acknowledge the great good the LDS and other churches of the world accomplish have blinded themselves."
That's a bit arrogant, don't you think?
I am Italian. I confess my grandfather was involved with "the Mob". They did a LOT of charitable and humanitarian work! Most of the charities were fronts for laundering money, but that doesn't change all the GOOD those charities did!
Just because YOU think books and Churches can be judged by their covers, doesn't mean WE are blind!
Conner,
Maybe you should read "From Mafia to Mormon" and learn about pure charity.
David
"And they did, with no strings attached, no price tag and no attempts at conversion."
Yes, but they sure got a great article at Mormon Times boasting in the works of the Church.
I realize that there are good and decent people in all faiths.
I am suspicious of any religion that call for the execution for many "sins" (apostacy, sexual sin, insulting Islam, etc.)
Non Islamic people living in Islamic countries are must pay a special tax, can never be in authority over an Islamic person and can be executed for frivlious reasons.
Non Islamic churches in Islamic countries are not allowed to build new chaples, repair old ones or print religious materials. Many are threatened with death if they do not convert to Islam.
Other than those minor issues, there is a great deal in common between the two faiths.
1. We both believe that God called a prophet.
2. Those prophets wrote (or translated) a book regarded as scripture.
3. They have been known to have more than one wife.
4. Both have high moral standards.
5. Neither group looks kindly upon drinking.
6. Neither group looks favorably upon homosexuality.
We could make some real headway with these people once they decide not to kill us.
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