Published: Monday, July 27 2009 12:02 a.m. MDT
What do you suggest if criminals are the only ones who have guns? They do not
obey gun bans you know! How do you recommend we protect ourselves against them?
Kung Foo? A gun in my hand is much better than a cop on the phone! I own a
handgun and fortunatly, I have never had to use it, but I would much rather have
it and not need it than if I NEEDED IT AND DIDN'T HAVE IT! Gun bans? No sale!!!!
How many cops shall we hire to protect a populace who is totally unarmed and
all the criminal know we are all unarmed?
You are more likely to shoot someone in your family than you are to shoot one of
the bad guys featured in your cliched argument. Which was the thrust of the
editorial. There was no mention of banning guns, just a plea for numbskulls to
leave them home.
Once again I am confused as to where the DN's stands. Do they
believe in the Constitution or don't they? Do they believe that we
have a right to bear arms or not? Do they believe the words of Alma,
"And again, the Lord has said that: Ye shall defend your families even unto
bloodshed.I must be the epitome of strength in their eyes because I
don't own a gun. I have always been confident in being able to handle myself
physically if I had to. But only a couple of weeks ago a group of
individuals attempted to enter our home via the basement while my wife and I
were home. Luckily we were still awake and we heard them. A little later and we
may have become another news statistic. For the first time in a long
time I have seriously considered getting a gun. Or maybe I could tell the
intruders to leave or I'll get up and take their weapon away from them and
pistol whip them with it. The DN's editorials assume a perfect world
and mimics our overreacting congress to every negative event that occurs.
My father-in-law is a concealed weapons permit holder and regularly "packs."
Numerous death threats as a result of his profession have led him to this. Your
blanket statement that gun carrying citizens are weak and fearful is just plain
wrong. Guns in professionally trained hands could have stopped:Columbine9/11Virginia TechThe list goes on and onOf course, we'll never know because so many people fear guns when they are in
the right hands. Nevermind that we put our guns freely into the wrong hands all
the time. You're absolutely right: pistols are machines to kill people. And
until bad human beings all over the world (in Churches, in Universities, on
airplanes, and yes, in public parking lots) stop killing good human beings,
those who are brave enough to be trained on weapons use (police, pilots,
University security, and common citizens) will have to carry to protect the rest
Dear Editorial writers:Grow up. Just because two really stupid
individuals didn't have the brains to call the cops when they should have,
doesn't mean that you should tar everyone with the same brush.I
can't wait until some Ward Finance Clerk and Bishopric member gets capped by
some gange banger for that Sunday's tithing receipts. What will you say then?
If I want to pack, and do it responsibly, who is going to know, and who's
business is it? Certainly not yours.Someone who packs a concealed
firearm legally is scared? Not hardly. I think you have been spending too much
time at the Unitarian Church. By the way, I don't even own a handgun. Just the
hard to conceal hunting rifles.
Just because we have a hand gun doesn't mean we have to be reckless, careless or
stupid. Thousands more are injured and killed by automobiles because
drivers are reckless, careless and stupid. But we don't see any articles like
this suggesting that we should stop driving cars. I agree that we
should use caution but I think there are many hazards in our current society
much more serious than carrying a concealed weapon. One of the most dangerous is
the use of alcohol. And another is pornography. And another is the use of
drugs.Years ago I was a volunteer worker at the Utah State Prison. I
worked with those who were convicted of capital crimes. Almost without
exception, the prisoners that I worked with admitted to me that their crime was
precipitated by the use of drugs, alcohol or pornography, and almost 100% said
they were drunk or had been drinking when they committed their crime.Perhaps we should stop trying to ban guns and start thinking about banning
Innocent people die in car accidents, should we push to get rid of cars?
Innocent children die in swimming pools, should we push to get rid of swimming
pools?Innocent people die prematurely because of their bad eating habits
should we push health food on everyone?There is a reason why the founding
fathers gave us second amendment rights. It is to help us keep our freedom and
protect our families.I think criminals would do more evil if there law
abiding victims did not have the option of having a hand gun on them.A
hand gun in skilled hands saved lives at the trolley square incident, in my
opinion. The bad guys will always have guns. Lets punish people who use guns
incorrectly but please don't push to make it hard for honest good people to
protect their families.Lets educate instead of regulate. I hope you all
can realize how many people have handguns that have not used them incorrectly.
Dare Obama's administration try and take my gun rights away. I know who'll lose!
Would those whom you disparage as "fearful" pistol-packing people include law
enforcement officers, or are they blessed with some mystical quality that
immunizes them against both abuse of that "privilege" and petty criticism from
advocates of civilian disarmament?
I mostly fear the destruction of our liberty that comes with ignoring our
constitution.You can never make everyone safe and you can't take
away the consequences of bad decisions by passing more and more laws. I don't own a gun. But that is my choice.
This is very poor logic. Here’s some reality.First, victims
don’t pack firearms. Prepared people do.Second, guns do make
homes safer, especially when realistic training is included. Statistics prove
it.Third, anyone who feels they don’t need to “pack
heat” while attending church has a very short memory.Fourth,
taking pistols out of the hands of teachers has only created multiple mass
shootings at schools. BTW, the Edsel was really a good vehicle that only sold
poorly because it had incorporated safety features ahead of its time that the
public was not ready to buy.Fifth, if “revolvers”
didn’t solve anything, why do our police and military carry guns?Six, everywhere gun bans are incorporated violent crime skyrockets. Great
Brittan is a classic example; guns are banned but now the people are only
defenseless victims of a wave of violent knifings.
Nice little editorial. It surprises me that so many "educated" people just don't
get it. What did this "article" say? Only the innocent get hurt with guns?
I'll bet that's what the Trolley Square guy was banking on when he let loose.
Or the guy that killed 30+ on the campus of West Virginia. Yep, I definitely
think it's a good idea to take the guns away from the law abiding citizens...
(walking away shaking head in disbelief that people could be so naive)
So. Two well-meaning idiots meet on the street and start taking shots at each
other. Someone gets hurt. Why is this news? Because it almost NEVER happens.
We read more frequently about kids drowning in the toilet than we do
about non-criminals shooting each other on the street.Please get
some journalistic integrity and cite your "statistics" that prove your points.
No valid statistics? I didn't think so. Your "opinion piece" is just that -
It's nice to know that the Deseret News has no locks on its doors, that the
employees of the Deserest News have no locks on their doors, that the children
of the employees and the grandchildren of the Deseret News employees are safe
and don't need watching and protection!Come on editor, get a grip on
life. There are three million people living in Utah. Almost every one of them
is a good, honest, kind person, but some are not. Almost every adult in Utah is
able to control his anger and relate civilly with others, but some can not.Do you expect every good, honest, law-abiding citizen to act perfectly
every minute of every day? If you do, then how do you explain your diatribe
against a Constitutionally protected Right? How do you explain your lapse in
commitment to our responsibilities as Americans? How do you explain your moment
of weakness as you instruct the people of Utah to give in and to give up a Right
- so that you feel better about yourself?
The author and anybody that agrees with him should show us how fearless they are
by placing a sign on their front lawns that declares their residence as a "Gun
Free Zone" and that they will defend themselves, their families, and property
with non-lethal physical restraint only. That will show all us gunowners how
brave you are and prove to us that our fears are unfounded. Until you are
willing to do that you should mind your own business. I fear people like you
more than I do any outlaws around.
we got guys shooting up toilets, and restaurant chairs.We have parents,
and grandparents, leaving loaded guns in their homes, where children can get
them.Now we have wild west behavior in bluffdale.Good editorial,
with some great points.People who love guns so much scare me.If
someone broke into my house, I would beat them up. Don't need a gun.
Sunshine, rainbows, and lollipops from the "it's a small world" editorial
board.In a perfect world, I would never have to worry about my
family's safety. In a perfect world, the police would always be just around the
corner and would show up to use their guns instead of their chalk. In a perfect
world, I could count on my fellow citizens to make good choices.Your
paper reports far more violent crime using guns than innocents injured by guns.
Why is it then, that you don't want me to be able to protect myself and my
family from the violent crime?
Statistics show that you are much more likely to die at home in a drowning
accident than a gun accident. I hope all the Des News editorial staff will go
home and rip out their bath tubs, otherwise you are hypocrites.Note
for vidar. A thug with a gun breaks into your house. He probably has more
experience as a thug than you have defending yourself from thugs. So you,
without a gun, will beat him up, problem solved. And you believe that. Please
jot down a few notes now for your epitaph.
I was going to make a point by point rebuttal of this silly editorial but others
have beat me to the punch.This editorial is as much a "shoot from
the hip" reaction to a really stupid incident as the stupid incident itself.I expect the DN editorial board to think things out a little more than
they did. Perhaps a bigger view and a little more realism.Disappointing.
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