absolutely pathetic you guys...
What an waste of time for Thompson and the MWC to go after the BCS! Its about
the money what league has it and what league does not and when we went to the
great new TV deal a few years ago the MWC will never get in, not that any non
BCS league should. C-USA has a better chance!
From BCS website, conference records in BCS Bowl games:Mountain
West1.000 (2-0)Southeastern.706 (12-5)Pacific-10.692 (9-4)Big East.545 (6-5)WAC.500 (1-1)Big
12.438 (7-9)Big Ten.421 (8-11)Atlantic Coast.182
It's hard for any team to go undefeated in league Play and get to the BCS. Last
year the Utes squeeked by Air force, TCU, New Mexico. The two years before that
the Cougars needed two last minute, miracales to get by the Utes. TCU has also
struggled at times. It takes some good bounces for any team from the MWC to
make it to the BCS.As for the commisioner, I would pose the
question...What has he done in the 10 years of the MWC. He has not improved our
position nationally and still has us in the middle of a horrible TV deal. Maybe
a replacement is needed
The MWC has something like 7 games against BCS teams this upcoming season.I GUARANTEE you they LOSE at least 5 of them!THAT is why the
MWC does NOT deserve an automatic BCS spot!Y'all are a bunch of
Well I guess that's one thing SEC and Utah fans have in common.They
win a lot of bowl games, AND they have the same education level!
THANK YOU sec fan. the truth has been exposed.
Air Force may be leaving the MWC conference to become an independent. If that
really does happen then BSU would be my choice to join the MWC.We
don't neeed to be abigger conference just continue to win games against our BCS
counterparts to denonstrate that the MWC is on a par with everyother BCS
conference, BSU would be a great addition in that quest!
Hey yiners! What have you done for me lately?...Bo Didley..nothing!!..when
MWC is mentioned you know they are talking UTAH UTES...end of story!Another undefeated season in 2009!BcS here we come AGAIN!!!
Thank you. that was great! Especially the Utes education part, LOL.
The Sooners were smart to pick a team that would roll over and play "just happy
to be here" for their season opener. Losing to the Utes and/or Frogs helps the
MWC case. Beating the tdS hurts it. So they chose to play the worst of the
best.And they'll run up the score, just to prove the ENTIRE MWC
doesn't belong. Unfortunately, if one of OUR top teams were to run up the score
on say the best of THEIR worst...Kansas? Nebraska?...the Big XII would just say,
"oh yeah, how would you fare vs back-to-back games vs Texas, Texas Tech, and
Oklahoma St?We'd probably fare just as well as Oklahoma facing
back-to-back games vs TCU, Utah, and the "why?"
Yes. You ARE a tdS fan. That's why you don't know why the Utes did the "Gator
Chomp". Had you been a SEC fan, you would have known that prior to the SEC
Championship game, Saban publicly dismissed the Utes by suggesting the Tide was
the only REAL BCS level team to have gone undefeated in the regular season. And then he lost to Florida.By the time the Utes and Crimson
Tide suited up in New Orleans there was only ONE REAL BCS caliber team to have
finished their season undefeated. And we let Saban know it by
showing who WASN'T. And THAT would have been the team who got "chomped" by the
Gators.Dumb, dumb zoob.
BYU fan in Oklahoma realizes that nobody here or anywhere else but there cares
about any team from the MWC and does not see any problem with the BCS being
unfair. The teams here are vested members of the establishment, make lots of
money because of it, usually beat the teams that whine about it all senseless
when they play them and have no intentions of sharing any of it with any team
outside of it...and are happy with it being that way. It's the way it is
son...deal with it.
No I am not a BYU fan, but no one has answered the question about why Utah fans
did the gator chomp at the sugar bowl? That has nothing to do with UTAH, is it
because Florida's coach came from Utah? He even starting putting UTAH down
saying that UTAH could not compet in the SEC. So is UTAH trying to mold
themselves like Florida?
Your comments are spot on. As a huge cougar fan I'd certainly trade a couple
MWC championships and vegas bowl wins for a little Sugar. But it's silly to
disregard BYU's program which managed to win ten games and finish the season
ranked for the third straight year in a row. This year will be four. Utes seem
to suffer from short term memory as many crimson club members were calling for
Whittingham's head a year ago, but one year later he's a genius. Nobody thought
he was a genius after the UNLV game in '07. BYU has been way more consistent
but Utah has had much higher highs and significantly lower lows than BYU during
the last four years. If the roles were reversed the Utes would be touting
I'd agree the Utes have done more for the MWC making a statement that the MWC
belongs in the BCS. How can you argue against two BCS wins to no BCS visits by
the Y? But those Ute fans who want to deride the Y's football
progam might want to consider that over the past four years (No, I'm not
counting Urban's tenure since he's not coaching at the U anymore.) the Y's
conference record was 27-5 versus the U's conference record of 22-10. The U has
twice the number of losses to the same teams, over the same period, with the
same head coaches.I know, I know, BYU doesn't have the same
non-conference record that the Utes did, and they had a weaker SOS last year,
and the Utes won more bowl games. End of the day, the Utes play
more emotional, have more highs and lows than the Cougars and are better at
winning the bigger games, while the Y has more discipline and consistency. BTW, as a fan, I would trade the Y's '06&'07 seasons for the U's
"McBride. Really? Ha! Your Ute is showing."Wow zoob. You REALLY
called it. Congratulations Sherlock! But then again, you DIDN'T
see what was OBVIOUSLY not a SERIOUS attempt to dupe anyone into believing
"Another SEC Fan" was anyone other than a Ute, but rather lampooning a tdS
troll.You're really not as bright as you think you are.Ha ha ha ha ha!Dumb zoob.
To all the dillusional Utes Thanks for finally doing something
for our conference, it's about time. You have this crazy idea that your PROGRAM
is more respected than BYU's, I believe you don't understand. Last year your
TEAM was better but your PROGRAM is still not up to BYU's level. You might
believe that nationally people believe you are a better PROGRAM but that is
actually not true. You've had a couple of great TEAMS. I know with your UofU
education it's hard to understand the difference between PROGRAM and TEAM, and I
know you guys had some #1 draft picks congrats. If you see us upsetting Oklahoma
next year that will far outshadow your sugar bowl win. You might be shoked when
that happens but it's ok you'll always have your Sugar and Fiesta wins to
celebrate. You might wonder why BYU is one of the teams to 1st play in a billion
dollar football stadium instead of you? It's is because we are regarded as a
better program.Cheers,A Cougar fanPS Harline is
Of COURSE I'm a Ute fan. That was a satirical post to the zoob who wrote in
that s/he was a Georgia fan. I just cut-&-pasted his post a made a few
modifications.Incidentally, the ONLY reason I know so much about the
tdS is because you guys are always boasting of successes I've never seen. SO I
RESEARCH IT! And what do I find? Your boasts are anywhere from parsed and/or
circular zoobie logic to grossly exaggerated to outright fabricated. So I call
you on it using ACTUAL facts.I ACTUALLY haven't been to Alabama
since 1987, and it was really just me driving through with my family. However,
having lived in ACC [Virginia], SEC [Florida], Big XII [Texas], and Big 10
[Illinois, Ohio, Pennsylvania] country, I can say, with HONEST authority,
OUTSIDE of Utah...only Mormons believe the "why?" to be the best team in the
MWC. Where I live, locals are too self-absorbed with Penn St. and the Big 10 to
really have much of an opinion of what's happening in the MWC. However, these
same locals are split between Utah and TCU as to who's #1.
Wow, you sure know a lot about BYU for them not being relevant. Ha! I am a
lifelong BYU fan but was able to still learn something new about BYU from your
post.Are you really an SEC fan, or are you a Ute fan? Come on, you
can tell me.You see, you gave yourself away as a Ute fan when you
starting spouting all of the stuff you know about BYU. Ute fans know more about
BYU than they do about Utah. You know you secretly wish you could be a BYU fan
but you fear you won't be accepted for your lack of intelligence. "I know," you
say, "I'll tell everybody I hate them so they won't know that secretly I want to
be a part of them."Ute fans think that BYU fans don't know anything
about football. This is becuase we don't know much about UTE football. They
think all fans should be obsessed with their rivals. Really we just don't care
that much about the UofU. We're fine with just being the Utes "bowl game" evey
year.McBride. Really? Ha! Your Ute is showing.
I also live outside of Utah and let me tell you, whenever the University of Utah
football team is mentioned the response is "didn't they have a good year last
year?" When BYU is mentioned people say, "oh yeah, they have a good football
program."That's what consistency gets you - Recognition. People
forget one (or two) hit wonders. However, think how much national recognition
UofU would get if they won their conference 15 years in a row, won a national
championship, had the highest attendance of non-BCS schools (#23 highest
overall), then went on to have consistent double digit win seasons.When that happens UofU will get NATIONAL recognition. For now, people will
talk about you for a month every 4 years and then forget. Only dilusional Utes
(who have lived in Utah their whole lives) think otherwise. It's comical to read
some of these comments.Thanks for holding up the MWC every 4 years
for the past 8 years (twice). Ha! Silly Utes.
Utah gained a ton of respect last year. BYU means nothing to us. I don't know
for sure but think BYU is 1-6 against the SEC. I do know they have lost to
Alabama twice, Georgia twice, and a few other losses. Not really sure who they
beat if anybody.My point is this. Right now BYU is not relavent to
anyone outside of Utah or the LDS church. Some may say they were a top team in
the 80's and 90's. Please provide me with a list of the teams they have beaten
(ever) that "finished" the season in the top 10. I think this list is very short
and speaks to a program that thinks highly of themselvs but others across the
nation think of them as a division 2 school or something similar to Oral
Did anyone see that Brian Johnson is on the cover of NCAA 2010? I thought that
was pretty sweet and I'm a Cougar fan.Sure there is a rivalry and I
get as upset as most when the Cougs lay eggs vs the Utes and other
non-conference teams. Honestly, if we're real fans of the game and of our
schools, you want the other guy (Utah in my case) to be awesome. It only lifts
up your conference and gives you national attention if you knock them off. I'm
looking forward to another BCS Buster this year represented by the MWC.P.S. Quit ripping on Boise State. They've got legit academic programs and
their football team is the winningest program in years. In fact, other than the
TCU bowl game, I can't remember the last time they lost to the MWC.
I agree. If we are willing to join the BCS and if offered to help ourselves,
then we can't blame the conferences currently in the BCS for doing the same
thing to us.Let's endorse it and try to become part of it, instead
of compaining that it is wrong. That will help us not look like such winers
now, and not like such hypocrites if we join.
I'm am an Alabama fan and live in the south. Utah is the best known team in the
MWC, and has put good teams on the field under Coach McBride, Meyer, and
Whittingham. The PAC-10 should extend an offer to the Utes and TCU. After BYU
played KSU in the Cotton Bowl 13 yrs ago, what else has BYU been known for?
Well, there WAS that one time where they talked a big game about beating Tulane
in the '98 Liberty Bowl, and then got BLOWN OUT. The cougar fans were throwing
Tostitos tortillas out on the field before the opening kickoff of their 2001
season opener. What was up with that? What does Tostitos Tortillas have to do
with 2 game losing streaks to end the season? BYU is the only team in NCAA that
doesn't know Utah and TCU are the only relevant teams in the MWC.
I can't decide if the MWC and their fans are in favor of the BCS or not. On one
hand they complain how unfair it is, and at the same time complain that they
can't join it. Additionally, the MWC is doing everything in it's power to
join.If you think the BCS is unethical and wrong, then try to break
it, don't try to join it. The actions of the MWC and their fans suggest they
only disagree with the principle of the BCS because they are not part of it.... thats not exactly taking the high road, or standing for what you
I agree BYU needs to win a BIG non-conference game against a highly ranked team
so they can get some national respect, however I wouldn't get hung up on #1
draft picks as the last time I checked both Smith and Bogut are not doing so
well and have become major disappointments.
At the very least, the MWC should replace the Big East in the BCS. I think
pretty much everybody agrees that the MWC is the better conference. However,
this does not solve the cartel problem. Evidence is strong of cartel behavior.
Any other industry would have been regulated by now.
Boise actually supports their University as much as any team in the MWC (Utah &
BYU), you do not get that kind of support at a Tulsa/Rice etc. and that is why
those sports programs do not have anywhere near the consistency and national
recognition as BSU. BSU has a better record and national rankings
year in and out than any MWC team over the past 10 years. Of course they would
help the BCS argument for the MWC and they make an awesome regional rival that
is a reasonable bus ride and very short and cheap flight away! It makes total
sense and would have been a better choice than TCU if Thompson wasnt so
confused about # of televisions available and focused on actual # of people
supporting & watching the games in those markets! :)
One post mentioned a logistical nightmare for the WAC when it was huge. Wasn't
it also just financially unfeasible? Someone else mentioned expanding to 12
teams. Are you serious? It doesn't make sense to create another large conference
when you broke apart from a previous large conference because of expenses. Would
conference schools really want to share the revenue that comes from tv with an
additional 3 schools? And why decrease the number of times you get on tv by
adding more schools? Let's say the conference schedule has begun.
With nine schools right now, there are 4 games in the conference. The mtn
typically shows 2 or 3 games each Saturday, maybe Versus or CBC C picks up
another. Good chance (75%-100%)then that if your team is playing, the game is on
tv. If you go to 12 schools, that makes 6 games. You have probably a 50-75%
chance that game will be on tv. Your odds of being on tv dropped because of more
teams and more games. Do you want that?
I am delighted with the success of Utah and TCU. Though a Cougar fan for many
years, I have always recognized the accomplishments of the other teams in the
conference as necessary for the overall strength of national exposure. No one
cheered any louder than me for the great Ute achievments the last few years.
Utah is my alma mater, but my loyalties changed with the persistant vitriol
spewed from the U fans at games and in print, and it seems ultimately
shortsighted and hypocritical from the Utah side when the trolls here puff out
their chests and pontificate about their "weak sister" in Utah County.Yes,
the BCS wins have been terrific, but make no mistake about it, BYU carried both
the WAC and the MWC until Utah, TCU and others found their stride, just as Utah
carried the RMC (due your homework for a change) when BYU was a fledgling. The
problem with youth is that it has no perswpective, because experience only comes
with time and effort.What goes around comes around, Ute fans.One day you
will be down according to someone's stats. I will remember your glory years when
that time comes.
I'm am a SEC (Bulldog) fan and live in the south, BYU is the best known team in
the WMC, and has put good teams on the field under Coach Edwards.BYU should pull
out of the MWC and get in a better conference. Before Utah played Bama last
year, and that Florida's coach came from there,what else is Utah known for? Even
at the Sugar Bowl the Utah fans did the gator chomp, what's up with that? What
does the gator chomp have to do with Utah? BYU is the only team in the MWC that
has a great history.
In response to this comment from a zoober. "Tell me again what championship the
Utes won this year? If you're talking about conference champs, then BYU did that
the 2 previous years."It makes me cringe everytime BYU wins the
conference because they then proceed to play a barely bowl eligible team and
lose. If you're going to win the conference then you better win the pathetic
bowl game you get sent to.
I've got a proposal, let 30 fans from all conference schools take over as a
committee...for FREE, then fans will actually try and get bowls that pay more
and mean something. DC? Boise? Are you kidding?
Tell me again what championship the Utes won this year? If you're talking about
conference champs, then BYU did that the 2 previous years.Ute fans
need to wise up and realize that winning a BCS bowl is ultimately worthless. It
is about as worthwhile as when BYU won the Cotton Bowl in 1996. Yes, it's a nice
memory, but it's not a flag in the rafters saying "national champion".The fact that teams like Utah and Boise rejoice over these BCS wins
legitimizes the arguments of the BCS conferences that they are giving Utah and
the likes the opportunity to even play in a big bowl game.We all
know, though, that Utah will never be allowed to win a real championship.So all that said, stop bickering with BYU over whose accomplishments are
greater and realize that what we really need to focus on is the fact that the
ultimate accomplishment is out-of-reach!
Redo the math ignoring the BYU-Utah games if you want the true picture. Except
for every leap year, when we play Utah they're unranked... Every year when they
play us recently, we're ranked. Thanks for scheduling ranked teams (us) while
we just have to play you...
Good luck, but unless the monopoly sees a benefit for itself, or they are truly
under threat by antitrust action, nothing will change. Hatch sure as heck won't
do anything, as if he could other than blather on.
#1 Picks are a huge deal. The #1 Draft Pick is always the best player in the
draft... Wait, what's that San Francisco and Milwaukee? You want your
selections back... My bad...Rather than discuss Alex Smith or
Andrew Bogut, let's discuss what a great job Steve Young did in the NFL
representing the University of Utah. That's more fun!
Hey Utah Mann (your spelling not mine),Your comment that TCU and
Utah can't keep carrying the conference by being the only ones winning out of
conference games just shows you don't follow the sport. BYU beat UCLA and
Washington and USU out of conference and only lost to Arizona (bowl). New
Mexico beat Arizona, UNLV beat ASU, Wyo beat Tennessee, etc... Meanwhile, TCU
got spanked by Oklahoma out of conference, making it's record out of conference
no better than BYU's. Try looking up some stats or watching actual games next
time before making ridiculous and inaccurate statements like the U and TCU are
carrying the MWC in out of conference games.
lets be honest, i dont think that the MWC really cares about breaking up the
BCS, they just want in. if they ever get in, i am sure that they wont complain
any longer. its all about the money.
The U and the y complain about not getting a fair deal from the big boys. At
the same time they make fun of "lessor conferences" such as the WAC and Big Sky.
It makes me chuckle.The MWC conference is no closer to the SEC and
Big 12 than the Big Sky is to the MWC. Go ahead and bring up
Alabama again. Now play Florida, LSU, Georgia and Mississippi over a six week
period. Or how about OU UT MO TT and Oklahoma State. You have my pity.
Needs to give Wyoming and SDSU the boot and bring in Boise State and Fresno then
we would be legit. Either that or somehow get BYU to represent on the national
stage instead of just remembering 84.
The consistency argument is absurd. I bet if you polled the Jazz fan base if
they would rather win 50+ games every year or win the championship 1 in 4 years
most would want the championships. Please come back to reality stop letting the
talking heads in Provo spin the truth. Everyone wants to be a champ,
win a trophy, be a superstar...not just play ball every year.
The MWC had the offer to be on virtually every single TV in Utah, Wyoming,
Colorado, New Mexico, California, Texas and Nevada. Over 55 million people but
the University President's nixed it, saying they wanted to be in all homes of
the nation. Now they are only in 2-3 million homes. That was said by the
commissioner about 18 months ago, then he quickly backed off that story after
those Presidents got to him. We should demand that the Board of
Trustees of every Univesity fire those Presidents and with them fire the
Commissioner. Drop Nevada and Wyoming, Invite Fresno and maybe
Smurfstate. Many of you keep complaining that BYU doesn't pay
enough nationally ranked teams are among the most clueless people on this earth.
BYU has tried and tried and tried to schedule these teams, but they simply
won't come to BYU because of their home record, or they won't schedule them
period. These are the mighty BCS teams who are so mighty they fear loosing to
BYU and tarnishing their "mighy" reputations. They are gutless and spinelss
teams. IF the are so good they should annihilate BYU, even at home.
Does anyone remember one of the original purposes of the MWC? The WAC had become
so huge that it was a logistical nightmare. The teams who left the WAC and
founded the MWC were good teams that wanted to get out of that problem. If you
expand then they come right back. In the current system if you take away the
option of the OOC games against BCS teams then you limit yourself further.
I'd rather see Houston, Tulsa, or Fresno St. join the MWC. They don't have a
ridiculously kitschy turf.In order to fill out a 12-game schedule
with an 8-game conference slate, we are limited to only 4 OOC opponents. If
we're to demonstrate we're BCS caliber, we need to schedule more BCS teams [and
ZERO FCS opponents]. By adding one more team to the conference, we'll be
limited to only 3 OOC. No good. If we add 3 teams, we could split
the league into 2 Divisions, playing 5 inter-divisional opponents and 2-3
extra-divisional teams. This would enable us to maintain no less than 4 OOC
opponents again. That's the upside. The downside is we'd have to split our
already paltry postseason dividends 12 ways rather than 9. I'd be in favor of
expanding to 12 teams IF AND ONLY IF we'd be guaranteed AQ status, AND if the
Big [L]East loses their's. A MWC with Houston, Tulsa, and Fresno St. would
rival the PAC-10 and ACC, and easily trump the Big [L]East.
Sure their football team has been successful recently, but the university behind
the football program is, well, lacking. There is more in the selection of a
school into the conference than just the football team's recent performance.
Tulsa and Rice, on the other hand, are elite schools with good
sports programs in larger cities than Boise. Expansion should go to Tulsa
first, then to Rice.
I am so sick and tired of Y and U fans demeaning each other in these comment
sections. Why not fight together against the real enemy of fairness in college
sports, aka the monopolistic cartel know as the BcS.
...can anyone say Boise State?
Best to be humble Utes....
I agree with "Shut up" I'm embarrassed to read the comments of any article
anymore. Trash talking only lowers us the the Arizona, Washington level of fan.
Give it up and let the truth show on the field.
i love the rivalry.MWC went 6-2 against the pac-10 last season. go utes!p.s. cougar anti-ute arguments are rediculous.
I say whoever holds the MWC crown gets bragging rights. The whole MWC is
getting better and constantly denigrating BYU or Utah is pointless. I am sick
of the constant trash talking over any article about football. . . . . . .. .
.Shut up and let's get back on topic - We need consistent
BCS access, and as long as the Mtn or Versus hold the broadcast rights, it will
never happen. We're not going to get anywhere without decent exposure.
did he mention that "our own television network" is one of the things killing
our conference?!?!?You won't see NATIONAL highlights of any MWC
team...which is how we gain NATIONAL recognition...because we are confined to
Perhaps we could schedule down a bit in order to grab that 10+ win season on a
regular basis ala BYU, Boise St, and Hawai'i ['07], but I'm not sure that'll
work well in the long run...you know...during bowl games.The
“why?” won 32 games over a span of 3 years. Looking at your 3-yr
stretch of 10+ win seasons, how many teams did you beat w/ a winning record?
Answer: 10, with a collective record of 84-46. You played 4 ranked opponents,
and only won ONE. The Utes won 30 games over that same span. How
many teams did the we beat w/ a winning record? Answer: 11, with a collective
record of 101-42. We played NINE ranked opponents, and won FIVE. You may have
2 more wins than us, but it’s clear that had to do with the fact
you’ve been playing an easier schedule. We faced 1 more opponent with a
winning record, 5 more ranked teams, and 1 fewer FCS opponent. If you even
looked at the collective opponents’ records you’d see that our foes
won 20.25% more games than yours.GO UTES!!!
Sorry, but lets asked some national football writers if they recognize the Utes
and their 2 BCS runs, or BYU and their 10 win seasons? 10 win seasons that
include a 1-10 record versus ranked teams, and a 12-14 record against just
winning teams. Yeah, that screams national attention doesn't it. The MWC is up for discussion for the BCS because of what Utah has done, not
because BYU beats up on crappy teams and loses to anyone decent.BYU
is a national pressence, as long as you are standing in an LDS wardhouse across
the country. Other than that they are one of the many non-BCS programs who
hasn't played in a BCS game.
"When Utah produces something more meaningful than a trophy that shows they won
a bowl game, then you can talk."We have more than a trophy that
shows we won a bowl game. Since the MWC's inaugural season, we have EIGHT bowl
trophies (2 of which are BCS-level) SIX Beehive Boot trophies, FOUR conference
championship trophies, TWO Top-10 plaques, ONE Nat'l Championship trophy, ZERO
embarassing "Quests", and a jealous little sister in Provo.
Please utah fans don't make me pull up utahs daffy duck offense. You are doing
nothing for the mwc if you haved a stellar season once in a while. How bout
winning double digit games each season...consecutivley. You're a bunch of one
hit wonders, do something consistent, not like beating UCLA and then getting
punked by UNLV!
To Atlas | 3:09 p.m."when byu produces #1 picks, talk to me"When Utah produces something more meaningful than a trophy that shows
they won a bowl game, then you can talk. I second a prior comment, Thank you
Utah for finally doing something in football after 30 years of nothing. BYU has
it under contol now, you can go back to mediocrity. We'll see you in 2012 since
your good years only come around every leap year.
I'll give you TCU, since they were chosen over BYU to be upgraded last year to
play an undefeated Boise team.But a team who is 1-10 versus ranked
opponentns, and 12-14 versus winning teams, since 2004 has absolutly no national
respect. FYI - Utah is 6-5 versus ranked teams, and 16-8
versus winning teams, in that same time period.That gap seems to be
expanding as we speak.
byu on a national scale is nothing. Keep dreaming byu fans. I would say that it
is byu holding back the utes. when byu produces #1 picks, talk to me.
Ha! Yes of course, because the BCS would NEVER have let BYU play in a BCS game
had they run the table last year... hell, Max would probably have had the
Heisman in his back pocket if that had happened.
The Utes Inferiority Sports Complex has expanded to include the Huntsman Center
- not just Rice-Eccles Stadium.
That's funny how Utah became the focus of the MWC in one year. I'm pretty sure
BYU and TCU would still get plenty of national attention without Utah. I'm also
pretty sure BYU has finished the last three seasons ranked and won all but 2 mwc
games in three years of play. But thanks for holding the MWC up so that BYU can
dominate it for another year in 2009. If that's the case then it's about
freaking time after Utah did nothing in football before 2004 for some thirty
years. Thanks for holding it a couple years when BYU was down. I'm sure you'll
drop the ball early and often this year so take it easy.
We need to stop fighting among ourselves and focus on the real
enemy...Commissioner Thompson. Nothing good that's happened to the MWC was his
doing. Is anyone really "excited" about the MWC bowl arrangement?
I realize access to the BCS bowls is something we're all focused on, but why
isn't negotiating a contract for the MWC champ to go to an upper mid-tier Bowl
like the cotton bowl, capital one bowl, or the Holiday bowl at the top of his
agenda? Even the Chick-Fil-A bowl pays out $3M per team, but no, our champion
gets a whopping $500K in Vegas. This is in the bottom half of bowl payouts. We
can and should do better. Thompson has tried to make up for lack of quality
bowls with quantity. I'd rather have one legitimate bowl with two consolation
tie-ins in vegas and san diego than five crappy bowl games. What a joke! At
least we should require the Vegas Bowl to pay out $750K to keep first pick among
non-BCS qualifying teams. And don't even get me started on the Mtn.
Utah has 2 of the 3 #1 picks noted and all of the MWC BCS berths. Utah has the
bulk of the conferences NCAA basketball tourney wins too, even though most of
Utah's basketball glory days were during the WAC years.Without Utah,
the MWC has very little to claim about any football or basketball sports
achievement. Actually, if Utah left for the PAC-10 the MWC would drop to the
level of the WAC or lower.Yes, Belgie, Utah is the Atlas of the MWC
"As for expansion, Thompson acknowledged its been discussed but that no specific
institutions have been pinpointed."Here's an idea. Send Wyo to the
WAC and bring in Boise St. But I'm sure the WAC wants to be as strong as
possible and not get weaker so that type of upgrade may not sell.
Yes, someone suffering from short term memory would have no recollection of BYU
doing anything on a national stage. Thank you for pointing that
out.25 years and counting.To Belgie: If Utah isn't
holding up the MWC conference on their shoulders to the national stage, who is?
BYU and their pathetic 1-10 record versus ranked teams since 04, or their 12-14
record versus teams with winning records since 04, or their continued losses in
bowl games?Please, enlighten us ole wise one.
I love how Utah has one good year in 4 and all of a sudden the fans think
they're Atlas - holding up the world.As for Thompson getting the MWC
into the BCS in the next 5 years, don't count on it. Look at how well he's done
getting the MWC on television.
I am concerned that the MWC's BCS hopes are on a guy who made the The Mtn. TV
deal. I hope he does a better job on this.
You must have a short term memory.
Why not, its not like it hasn't happened try just last year. If my memory serves
me right wasn't Utah in a BCS bowl..Some in the MWC act like it never happened.
Given the Conferences partnerships with CBS collge sports, what makes the most
sense is to pursue bowl agreements with the Sun and Cotton Bowls, since those
games have had agreements with CBS for years.
any word on The Mountain coming to Dish Network?
Wealth is centered in the hands of a few.He who has the gold makes
the rules.The MWC is BEGGING FOR DE-REGULATION?I will
believe the ALTRUISM of the MWC when they RE-DISTRIBUTE THEIR WEALTH with DIXIE
STATE.All of this WHINNING just gives STOOPS more reason to CRUSH
UTAH COUNTY'S MARQUEE TEAM!
Hair Thompson said it MWC....you must win your out of conference
games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That means you BYU, NM, UNLV, WYO, SDSU,
CSU, AFA.TCU and UTAH cannot hold up the entire conference. Win some
dang games guys, come on!!!!!!!!!!!