Trade Booz while we can still get something out of him. I would not be surprised
however if KOC kept him. Can we trade O'Conner?
Booz's trade value is at an all-time low right now whether he likes it or not,
and all the jabber-jawin' isn't helping his case any.Time to put it
aside and get ready to play your butt off, big fella.
the way to read O'conner's comments is that he's trying to tell potential
suitors that the Jazz are considering keeping Boozer do he doesn't look as
desperate as others are perceiving him to be. It's not working, IMHO. There's
no way in this economy, in the Utah market, that the Jazz are going to pay that
$15M tax for going over their budget by having AK, Okur, Boozer, and Milsap -
other team may be willing to do that (e.g, the Yankees) but no one in the Jazz
organization is interested in doing that. My guess is that if they do end up
paying the luxury tax, O'conner will be out of a job (after forfeighting his
salary to help pay that tax).
Obviously, Boozer wants out of here any way he can. By him saying that the Jazz
have agreed to trade him, he makes the Jazz look like they are willing to dump
him without getting very much value. This takes bargaining power away from the
Jazz and is a final "thanks for nothin" special delivery from the BOOZ. I bet
the best thing about Utah for him (beside the fortune he was able to amass) will
be seeing it in his rearview mirror. Get this mercenary out of town and bring a
pro in here so we can finally get excited for the new season. Otherwise, we have
to go through this soap opera one more time.
I say trade bozer to the clippers for coke and a cheerleader.
I disagree with the previous poster. I hope we don't give Carlos anything he
asks for. He is under contract, and needs to be quiet about trades. He is
under contract until he is traded. To me, this is simply another
case of Carlos only looking out for Carlos and not worrying about commitment or
the team. Good job, Kevin, sticking to your guns. Don't trade Carlos until a
trade gives the Jazz someone worth having...
dump andrei and booz. who is our scorer? dump the coach and front office and
get modern day execs that know the players
The games go on. Blah, blah, blah.
keep booze on the bench and give his minutes to others. have him sit in street
clothes behind the actual players. boozer isn't an nba player, he is just a
con-artist and has ruined his relationship with his second boss now. good job
booze. why dont you click your heels together three times and go back to alaska
the Philadelphia Daily News – are open to bringing in Jason Hart, Brevin
Knight and Carlos Arroyo, among others, to provide veteran backup point
guard.Don't intertain the notion of adding Hart, Knight and Arroyo
to the 76ers, especially Knight! What a bunch of useless point guards!! Heck,
go after Howard Eisly. You'll get a great back-up p. guard with him.
@sumuEver heard of Deron Williams? Memo Okur?Who had the most
consecutive double-doubles in the NBA last season? I'll give you a hint...it
wasn't Carlos Boozer. Offense will not suffer that much with Carlos
gone. Millsap is capable of averaging 14-16 per, with the other starters all
increasing their avgs a bit. And the defense will improve. So no worse than a
wash. Re: the front office...who was the exec that brought in Memo
and drafted DWill, Millsap, Brewer, Miles, etc. Yep, dump the bum(s). One losing
season in what, almost 30 years? Yep, Utah sucks and all the execs should be run
out of town. Booz is definitely hurting his trade value. But he
doesn't care. He's only looking out for himself. It's almost laughable. He goes
from city to city, trying to pimp himself out to the highest bidder. But no one is buying. His "disease" has already been exposed for all to see.
No one trusts him anymore. They know once he signs a big contract he'll
immediately pull a hammy. I hope he has to sign for the MLE next summer.
No one wants him.... including this Jazz Fan. $12-$15 million for half a season
and half an effort on defense is way to much
The Jazz have 50 Million committed to Williams, Okur, AK and Millsap for then
next two season. The Jazz cannot sign another player for multiple years
contracts at 10 million plus. They also want to keep Brewer locked up to a long
term deal, and they have a lottery pick from NYC. That is why they
did not offer Boozer a contract extension. The Jazz would like to trade Boozer
for a young player that is about 5 million a year, but other teams are offering
junk. (it is not that they can't pay the Luxury tax this season, but they can't
lock in a player like Hamilton - next years salary will be over this year
salary) Had the Chicago/Portland/Utah Trade went through the Jazz
would be thrilled. OConner is trying to tell the other teams that the Jazz are
OK with keeping Boozer, but they would like to trade him for another player that
would help the Jazz win wit a contract under 8 million a year. Boozer is not longer in the Jazz's long term plans - therefore he is trying to
find a team that can trade them.
I look forward to the next stop on the Carlos Boozer free agency tour. It has
been extremely entertaining thus far.Too bad he opted to NOT become
a free agent.After he pulled the wool over Gordon Gund's eyes in
Cleveland, I am guessing this free agent tour by Boozer, while under contract
with Utah, has got to be winning him fans with GM's throughout the league.
Expiring contracts can bring back some great value in February. Anyone who
wants to get in on next summer's free agent stuff and get under the cap will
look to shed deals at the trade deadline. The Jazz are right to be patient,
because a 12.7 million deal could bring them back a real nice player or two from
a team that needs the expiring contract.
John, great job while TB on vacation, but frankly this is the biggest joke
going on in sports.AS I TOLD ALL OF YOU: SAME JAZZ ROSTER 2009-2010
POSSIBLY 2010-2011 ETC ETC ETCO Connor could have made "ample trades
by now" How does anyone with a straight face buy a ticket, even houdini,
watching Dan Roberts announce the lineup "CARLOS BOOOOOZER!" and the boos
cascade from the rafters down to the floor.It is humiliating more
the Jazz do nothing and get red of this guy. It is a farce....Maybe
someone that wants to win such as "Haslem, Landry and or Battier" would be a
threat to SLoanie and the SLoanaholics" so it is SAFER to keep SNOOZIE...Then this will happen boys and girls: Boozie will have a good year and
sign a new 5 year contract with the Jazz and all will be good again....
I say there is about an 80% chance he stays. The jazz have pretty much said if
they don't egt an all-star or a potential all-star in return they won't be
trading him. Player like Tyrus Thomas or Udonis Halsem won't get a deal done and
For all of Boozer's poor judgment in kissing up to every other team in the
league and wanting his raise, let him sit on the bench for the season and not
play a minute. Then let him go.
If the Jazz have any hopes of advancing beyond the first round in the play-offs,
they will need Boozer.End of story.
"Offense will not suffer that much with Carlos gone. Millsap is capable of
averaging 14-16 per, with the other starters all increasing their avgs a bit.
And the defense will improve. So no worse than a wash."The only
problem here is that Milsap gets a lot of his points by hustling, picking up
loose balls and rebounding missed shots. But he's not a very effective scorer
when he's being defended or when the Jazz run plays for him. Look at how often
he gets his shots blocked. Boozer is a far superior low post scorer who can
pretty reliably score or get fouled in go to situations where the Jazz need
points, much like Karl Malone.
It's amazing how this story just won't die. Whether O'Connor admits it or not,
we all know the Jazz are looking to trade Boozer. Which we've all known for
quite a while now. Nothing has changed. They got Millsap back for cheap after
paying that signing bonus, which also was no surprise due to the lack of teams
willing to give him more money. So, even though new "developments" come out
almost daily concerning Boozer, nothing has changed since Boozer decided to opt
in; the Jazz were going to match for Millsap and try to trade Boozer.
I say we do to him what the Knicks did to Marbury and bench to destroy his valve
in free agency next year until he is begging us to let him out of his contract
just like Marbury did. Or we can play him and he will get another season ending
injury and destroy his value on his own.
Milsap is good but boozer is better, i still don't see milsap worth 8 million a
year.. If the jazz want to bring their cap down they need to move AK first. This
guy gets paid like max player but in no way is he an elite player. I say move AK
and then boozer second if he really doesn't want to be here, but get some type
of value in return and not the scrubs for our top players.
I agree with Dixie Dan. Keeping Boozer will be the only way the Jazz even make
the Playoffs. Maybe O'Conner wants the Jazz to head in a different direction and
the direction without Booz would be south. Maybe this is what the Jazz need.
Have a couple of bad seasons, get some high draft picks and start fresh. Sloan
couldn't win with two Hall of Fame players, in fact, he hasn't won with anyone
period! I know what direction the Jazz need to go and that's with a new coach.
Make Boozer come off the bench. Make Milsap play like he is worth his signing
bonus.If Boozer could man up and play hard off the bench his trade
value would improve. Then the Jazz could trade him before the All-Star trade
deadline. Utah and Boozer would win.However, reality sets in and
egos take over. Utah and Boozer will probably go through a costly and ugly
divorce. If only they would do what's best for the kids. Sigh
I am really surprised to hear people say Thomas and James for Boozer is not a
good trade! Thomas is young talented and has puts out great effort. James
saves us alot of money next year. How can the team lose. We played well w/out
Boozer so add another talented played with our young guys returning and we at
least have a chance to grow As a team. If that that is not good enough switch
heinrich for James and throw in Miles.
Boozer's statements to the media outside Utah contradict the truth? None dares
to say it -- Carlos Boozer is lacking in moral turpitude. There, I said it.
I will take a bag of ice and towel boy and a new stantionary bike, cuz he wore
Boozer has an expiring contract and motivation to play hard. I don't think he
could help noticing that nobody was willing to "give him a raise" and it looks
like nobody is even ready to take him straight across. I think that tells you
There has never been a trade.It has all been orchestrated by
Boozer's machine.Opening Day, Boozer will be playing for the Utah
Jazz, with a chance to prove his worth. All-Star or bum.
Boozer is the backup to Millsap now. simple as that. Boozer will be on the
injured reserve again in no time anyways for which the Jazz likely have an
insurance policy to use on him to recover monies lost on the Dukey.
Thomas for Boozer is a great trade. Thomas is young and cheap. Not to mention he
does something the Jazz desperately need. He blocks shots!!! and plays great
interior DEFENSE, ya that D word Boozer can't pronounce.
I for one am exited to see a redo of the disaster that was last season...see
what this squad can do when they don't have to deal with massive injuries. If
Harpring decides to hang it up they are going to need a verteran enforcer but
other than that I like this team.As far as a Boozer trade goes,
here's a scenario that I could see going down....The heat are in a
holding pattern right now untill Odom makes a decision, if Odom decides to join
Miami then Miami goes hard after Boozer, if he doesn't, then Miami does
nothing.Why? Because Miami is positioned to make a play for a top
tier FA in 2010, if they get Odom they lose some of that ability, so they go
after Boozer because tehy would be able to keep him using his bird rights even
if they are over the cap.So if Miami wants Boozer, what do the Jazz
want?1) Cap releif2) Beasleythe dealBoozer for Beasley and Jones (plus Miamis trade exception)If Miami
won't give up Beasley, no deal.
"he only problem here is that Milsap gets a lot of his points by hustling,
picking up loose balls and rebounding missed shots. But he's not a very
effective scorer when he's being defended or when the Jazz run plays for him.
Look at how often he gets his shots blocked. Boozer is a far superior low post
scorer who can pretty reliably score or get fouled in go to situations where the
Jazz need points, much like Karl Malone."Have you not looked at Paul
Millsaps stats? He put up 27 against New Orleans (David West) 20 against Houston
(Scola) 32 against Boston (Garnett!!!) 20 against Phoenix (Stoudamire) 18
against Toronto (Bosh)And had 3 double figure games against the Lakers in the
playoffs! As a backup to our little baby Boozer.. With Paul Millsap starting he
will be one of the top 5 or 6 power forwards in the league. end of story.. Ill
trade the number 3 power forward with no D in order for Millsap to play!
Everyone will be surprised with how well he can play starting a whole season!!
I have found a VERY interesting rumor picking up MAJOR steam. The rumored deal
is a follows: 1. Lakers recieve Glen Davis/Fesenko.
2. Boston Receives: Boozer/Jazz 2010 2nd rd pick 3. Jazz recieve:
Lamar Odom/Boston 2010 2nd round pick, cash considerations It
is believed Kevin O'Connor has run out of options and risks keeping Boozer on
the roster the entire season, a "PR" move the Jazz organization wants to aviod,
if he does not move Boozer in the next few days.
Things would be bright if Carlos Boozer, Kevin Oconner and David Locke left
Thats the problem with Jazz fans! Is all you think about is winning now!! How
long did it take the Lakers to win a championship? About 4 or 5 years.. You have
to put it together with the right pieces! Quit thinking we are going to win
right now cause its not gonna happen! Its not gonna happen with Boozer and its
not gonna happen without Boozer! So why dont we trade him for a good young guy
and develop the team? Its pretty simple! But you all think Thomas is a bad trade
because he only averages 12 points and Boozer is more! WHO CARES!?!? He is
young! He is still developing! That is how that process works people! Some
people develop sooner than others! Its a good think Kevin O'Connor doesnt take
advice from jazz fans
It's the deal you don't hear about that gets done.On another note. What
does the murmuring herd think about Allen Iverson? He's available, has matured,
is not as fast as he once was but would upgrade our guard position, and would
show our younger talent how much money an 8 time All Star should be expected to
Iverson = Cancer. He is Boozer only older, shorter skinyer and more selfish. I
think trading Boozer and Miles for Tyrus Thomas and Kirk Heinrick would be a
fast way to improve and a great way to prepare for the future. Williams,
Heinrick, Kirilenko, Milsap and Okur could put up big offense and defense.
Heinrick could guard the point and williams is strong enought to guard off
guards. Then Kirilenko, Milsap and Okur are the bigs. Plus we could get rid of
Miles who is obviously not working out. He does nothing except maybe make three
pointers at the end of a blow out.
KOC is doing the best job possible given the economy. He cannot leverage a
trade by saying Booz is worthless and to other teams a two time All Star is not
worthless. He commands a price. The jazz front office is as good as it gets
and even if Boozer does opt in this will likely be my first year of season
ticket purchases. Boozer will be motivated if only playing for a contract.
Boozer will be judged by how the team does.
We don't need to be in any hurry to trade Boozer. Luxury tax is not paid til
end of next season. We have 6 months to trade him away. I still think we keep
him all year. I am sure he will be injured most of it.
Just trade him already!!! This who is better, Millsap or Boozer debate is
getting old. Let me tell you, I don't care how much "better" the team would be
with boozer-which I happen to disagree with anyway. Paul has something boozer
doesn't have-Heart, and a good work ethic! I would rather root and cheer for
someone that gives it his all, then someone who sits out half the season and the
other half doesn't even bother to play a lick of defense! Maybe I was just
spoiled watching Stockton all these years, Stock was someone who gave it his all
every night and he tried his best to do whatever the TEAM needed him to win, he
didn't care about himself, I wish more players would be like that!!!GO Paul, we believe in you, go out and show the doubters that you are more
than worth the pay raise!
Carlos lived in my neighborhood on Donner Way until he sold what many in area
called his "love nest" I never saw him to be honest and often wondered how did
I miss a 6'10" black guy driving an Italian Sports car I was often walking or
driving on that street.Isn't his Florida house up for sale as well? Maybe
the guy will be team less and homeless with millions in the bank for no work!
pretty hard to read your 2nd grade writing,on something...again????
Let`s bring back the same healthy team and see what happens,I have a feeling
WE,real Jazz fans,not you todd, are in for a big surprize
So it hit me like a brick in the face thrown from 1 yard away. Do not trade
Boozer. Start Milsap. Boozer then whines and mopes and creates dissention and
contention. Then you suspend his rear end with out pay. You use the pay Boozer
isn't getting anymore to pay that luxury tax. We come out ahead and Boozer sits
a loozer on the bench. No raise Boozer. JAZZ all the way!!!!!!
To: Todd fromn Santa Ana 8:56 AMYou are very naive. Boozer has very
little trade value, so you can't just wave your magic wand and wish a trade to
happen. There have been trades available, but they are garbage. It is not good
busness sense to trade him for no value in return. The Jazz need to keep taking
the hard line until someone decides the Jazz are not going to cave, then you
will see something happen. The Jazz just need to be patient and they will make
the trade for good value. If Boozer isn't careful, he might get fired and lose
his contract. Some will say, "that is not possible under the current NBA
agreement", however, if he does not perform up to the rules of that agreement,
he could lose his contract. I hope he is not that stupid. We'll see. The Jazz
are playing their cards just about right.
I would like to have all the money Boozer has lost at the expense of his lack of
public relations skills and a basic sense of ethics....Chicago Trib
reports that Boozer claimed last week he wants to play in Chicago, while the
next week he claims Miami is his first choice!Geez Boozer......you
will be lucky to be playing for exception money next year, any thoughts of
playing for $14ML are GONE due to your BIG MOUTH! Just SHUT
UP DUDE and play the game....no one cares whether you love Miami or not? They
just want to see you defend someone as aggressive as you shoot-off your mouth!
for the season to start and see Boozer coming off the bench for 18 minutes a
night.......next we need to find a way to get Obama relegated to part time....or
traded to China!
Even if he has to stay and play for the Jazz this year he will claim he tore his
taint diving for a ball or his roids are flaring up.....he will find a way to
sit it out. thats the Kind of Steller NBA Stud he is!
we have 2 make a move b4 its 2 late.pickin up Pargo was ok but we still need a
inside presence.we're making our moves based upon 2010-2011 free agency.i meen
who is 2 know that the guys we want would still be there(c.bosh-d.wade and so
fourth)those teams r looking 2 keep there all star player at home.we need 2 make
move forward not backwards.com on BULLS!!!!
MAGNUS RETURNS FROM VACATION!! AND SHOCKING WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE SAME JAZZ
ROSTER!!!!!no comment...To Searce: Garbage?
Battier and Landry are garbage?Wrong.Lopez I would not do
him.,I would even think about Haslem unless someone else
included.The thing you are forgetting is Golden State has a Buffoon
named "nellie"He has all 5 footers and no big guys or few let us
say-Anthony Randolph is probably going to be a real good #3 in this league. We
should try the angle of having him take one or two of these high contracts or he
will be in the lottery
Houdini, that is a statement you know is false. I am not a Real Jazz Fan?No Houdini see only for 32 years. You may be suprised. All this team
has to do is get at least to the Semi Finals and then I will say how wrong I was
about most of the negativity. You know, because I do not agree with stand pat
management-by the way Houdini, i caught your comment. You do not have to worry
I am not or going to hint at boycott again. I have better things to do. What
many do not understand is the reason are things the way they are is because the
fans want what "you want"So go for it. I gave up trying to convince
the "minority" I have enough support. More than enough...If you or anyone
thinks all of a sudden this team will play defense you need to prove it....From this "outsider" out....
I cannot believe the criticism a great man like Todd from Santa Ana gets. I
thoroughly enjoy reading him because he tells the truth and has tremendous Jazz
Passion. It is unfortunate most do not appreciate his fine abilities. He
probably growing up should have picked another team where the fan base would be
in synce instead of the over loyal Utah people. If Boozer was in any arena I
would boo him till my voice was hoarse. What all of you fail to see is most
other cities in the country this complacency and accepting the same tired Jazz
year after year would not be tolerated. I have lived in many cities including
New York and Philadelphia.Todd made a comment last week that he has
not seen worse defense in pick up basketball leagues.I see pickup
every summer in Brooklyn and he is right as usual.
RE: WorkinglateBefore this began, the Jazz brass told us they were
prepared to pay the lux tax for a year to the tune of 12-15 mill, with the
Miller's blessing, so that's really a non-issue.
...I've heard recently Jazz, Nets, Wizards in a 3 way deal.Booz to
Nets, JaVale McGee and Caron Butler to UT, Yi Jianlian, Sean Williams, Harpring,
and K. Fesenko to Wizzards. Wouln't surprise me..I know Jazz have
always liked Butler and McGee is young inside shot blocker interior defense.
But, like always...just a rumor..."pull the trigger Kevin!"
Can you imagine how awesome it would be to get Trent Plaisted back here for the
Jazz? This guy dominated when he played at the Y and we need a dominant big man
like Plaisted. Plus he would be so happy being back in Utah. I just keep
holding my breath at the possibility, see you Boozer and hello Plaisted!
the Jazz have an identity crisis top dollar players that cant play. Trade AK,
Mehmo, and Booz.. Mehmo cant play D, Booz cant play D, and AK only plays when he
wants get rid of the three of em, put Price at PG move DWILL over to the 2
position start Korver, Millsap and hopefully trade for top dollar Center.. frees
up a ton of money
I think the media in Utah is third class, minus Ron Boone, David James, Brad
Rock, Craig (he popped the rim I'm gonna give stats all night) Bolerjack). My
goodness Utah is now the worst media outlet in the entire league minus Dante and
Galante in Orlando.
carlos arroyo is a great playmaker hes better than oders in the list
One gets the feeling that Carlos is not going anywhere, any time soon.He will be in a Jazz uniform to start the season.He can't afford
to be injured as he needs to look good for the other GM's.Jerry will
bad mouth him every chance he gets to the media.Dwill will not dine
Keep boozer, why not he a better player then whoever we are going to get? why
trade for less and come up with a lame player then boozer/ boozer better than
jazz fans lack common sense? some of these ideas or ridiculous. I mean
honestly.. Trade booz, memo, and ak. Put price at the 1 and move dwill to the 2?
Honestly. Unless you are 3 years old you shouldn't be posting because you are
making yourself look like a complete fool.
My guess is that Carlos is going to be unhappy wherever he goes. He obviously
has an inflated view of his accomplishments. I wouldn't be surprised if he
stayed in Utah simply because nobody else is willing to put up with him.
By running down Boozer you run down his value. Regardless of how you feel about
his comments that were way overplayed in the media, he is a 20/10 All Star. He
will play his rear end off this year because he wants a new contract. The
roster will have 3-4 All Stars in Memo, AK, Boozer, D-Will. This will be a good
team unless the ungreatful fans mess it up! Welcome back Carlos..... Let's win
a championship and then you can write your ticket elsewhere.
Boozer the Loser needs to go...he's disruptive and only for himself...he had
some nice games for the Jazz, but no it's time that he take his tired act to
some other team
Are you serious? Trent Plaisted in the NBA. ha ha ya right he is the worst!
not worth a dime for the jazz to get him
I am now going to change my name from Miles to Boozer. Just like CJ, Carlos is
getting picked on and needs me to come to his defense!!
ref: Can't waitBest posting out of all today (I really liked the
part about trading to China)....good job!
Without Carlos, the Jazz are mediocre. He is the only player who
can score in the post.He is the only player who can run an effective
pick-and-roll with Dwill and score off the pick.He could play
defense if Jerry forced him to do so. No one we trade him for will
be better. With Boozer, Memo and Dwill on the floor we are
impossible to stop offensively. With Millsap, Dwill and AK on the
floor we can't score. Jerry needs to change his defensive position
and turn this team into a championship team. Isn't that what a
coach is hired to do?
but PLEASEEEEEEE get rid of CJ,he`s actually the one dragging this team down,I
don`t understand how Sloan stuck with him all year,of course by the end he`s was
getting 7-8 minutes per game,which were about 6 too many
i love korver,he is cute,fire sloan,trade dwill,trade miles to jr.jazz,
Bring back ostertag!
A title? With Boozer? Where have you been? The sooner he's gone the better.
keep boz because he wants gone. make him back up paul like he should have last
year. i belive thats what is going to happen.
get rid of boozer for tyrus thomas is what i think the jazz team should do
boozer is always out with injuries he has missed 2\3 of his games tyrus thomas
is probably the best things for the jazz team cause we would probably win more
games and get cooler plays