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AGAIN the Deseret News only reports the church's side of the story and doesn't interview the gay victims in question.
Their property, their rules just like my house, my rules.
No big deal. Time to move on. Some poeple get offended so easily. Seems pretty straight forward.
The officer's comments of the smell of alcohol and slurred speech doesn't help their case much.
** sigh ** Only in Utah. I just have a feeling neither side is going to let this rest. Will the SWAT team be called out on Sunday for the Kiss-In? Will dramatic security camera footage (appropriately blurred of course) be released to the Media and endlessly analyzed? I'm sure the ACLU and State Legislature will feel the need to intervene somewhere along the line. Let's not turn this into the crime of the century folks. The guys were drunk. The guards were homophobic. Let's move on.
If you want to be respected then respect private property, regardless of who owns it. Whether it's a church owned property or a bar, these two got what they deserved. Pressing the matter further only demonstrates a lack of civil respect and dignity.
FYI the D News didn't interview the church either. But if you want both sides, KSL put a link to the police report (who interviewed the homosexuals) and also a link to the church's statement.
The whole defense article reads as though it was an appropriate action since they were drunk and gay. Wow this just makes the church look even worse. I think the director of communication for lds inc. needs to find a new job.
Again the DN only over-reports the offenders version of the story.
There were no victims, except those who rightfully expect responsible behavior in public.
That's a cheap accusation. The article is explicitly about the Church's response. Other articles have given other perspectives. You don't have to show "both sides" in each and every article for it not to be biased.
Property owners have rights and those rights should be respected. Why are these men and the other protesters trying to infringe on the liberties of a church? We don't all have to agree with each other and the personal opinion and conduct of an individual does not take precedence over another's legal rights. This situation is much ado about nothing or an orchestrated event to make a political statement. I am sure that the two men in question would appreciate the public respecting their personal private property rights. They need to respect others including a church's. This is an incident where people who value liberty should take a stand that without a guarantee of our private property rights we lose our liberty. Hopefully the district attorney will not get caught up in the political angle or pressure from one constituency and preserve the rights of property owners and the rule of law–in this case trespassing.
My biggest concern is that the generosity of the church allowing anyone on their property will be suspending because of people who can't act maturely or appropriately.
Just like the dumb kids in school who ruin recess for everyone. No one has much sympathy for you. Quit being selfish!
Then why dont you go read the Trib. I dont think you want the truth unless it supports your position. And incidentally, the public is no place for passionate kissing and groping by couples whether they are of same sex or opposite sex. And do you believe that anyone would have made a big deal because of a kiss that was a quick peck on the cheak? Give me a break.
Why are the trespassers considered victims. Because they are gay? It seems like they are perpetrators.
Victims? Give me a brake!
If you don't like it Stenar, leave Utah! The fact that they were drunk and disorderly, irregardless of their sexual orientation,they were on private property (the Church's or anyone elses, it doesn't matter). Their refusal to leave was enough. What does it matter what their side of the story is? As usual, the gay community can do no wrong. We're all just supposed to give in to all their demands and accept them as normal people. Perhaps if they behaved in public like normal people, it would be different.
Des. News, you can stop bending over backwards to look independent of your owner.
Be proud of higher standards even if they are not popular among the noisy minority.
As a life-long liberal, I am starting tire of Utah gays for their childish antics and antagonistic behavior--it's all about "me" with them.
The Ayotollah's have spoken. No public displays of affection and stop engaging in behavior deemed inappropriate for any couple on the plaza. What is this the United Sates or something. I find it so very interesting that not a single hetero couple has ever engaged in "inappropriate behavior" in hte years the plaza has been in existence. Nice try for the LDS Church, but no one w/ their own mind and IQ higher than their age is buying.
It's Church property, and they should be able to set the rules that govern the acceptable and unacceptable behaviors conducted there. It's simple, if I can set the rules in my house and on my property, then so should they. The public should be thankful that the Church hasn't fenced in the property and denied all access to the property.
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