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BYU football: Fiery Kozlowski 'grew up' at Y.
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another pretender | 3:58 a.m. July 15, 2009
yawn who cares!
No Its Just Football | 6:06 a.m. July 15, 2009
"Anytime you put that 'Y' on your helmet and go out to play,
you're representing the school. Not only the school, but the Church as
well," Tyler said. "When we play football, we're not just playing
football. We're trying to accomplish something much greater.
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What are you trying to do, preach while on the field? No??? And since your not overseas fighting a war then its only football. Just stick to playing football, off the field fine but on the field its only a game.
I wonder if Norther Dame players try to "accomplish something much greater" other then playing a game when they put on their helmets.
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What are you trying to do, preach while on the field? No??? And since your not overseas fighting a war then its only football. Just stick to playing football, off the field fine but on the field its only a game.
I wonder if Norther Dame players try to "accomplish something much greater" other then playing a game when they put on their helmets.
Kozlowski | 6:08 a.m. July 15, 2009
I loved the fact that he was a rebel for BYU, I even enjoyed watching him play
(although I'm not a BYU fan). The guy was like rubber when he made his
catches, sounds like the rubber has turned to flubber but I wish him well.
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Anonymous | 6:11 a.m. July 15, 2009
"I don't think you can fully understand unless you actually play and
see how hard that is to go undefeated,"
True, and Utah was good enough to do it twice in 5 years: 2004 and 2008.
Too bad that's no longer the criteria to win a national title otherwise Ball State was on the verge having one last year.
True, and Utah was good enough to do it twice in 5 years: 2004 and 2008.
Too bad that's no longer the criteria to win a national title otherwise Ball State was on the verge having one last year.
Jim Meyer | 6:18 a.m. July 15, 2009
It's great to hear from you, Koz. You were my favorite player to watch on
that unforgettable team. Go for it Tyler!
Just-be-"Koz" | 7:09 a.m. July 15, 2009
Thanks for the story. Kozlowski was my favorite member of the football team
while he was there. In third grade when we'd play tackle football at
recess I was always #7, lined up wide. Seeing Tyler follow in his footsteps
brought back fond memories of the Glory Days (round one) of McMahon, Bosco,
Sikahema, Bellini, and Kozlowski.
NYC Ute | 7:18 a.m. July 15, 2009
I absolutely hate BYU football, but I always respected GK on the field. He was
a fantastic player - maybe the most dangerous receiver in BYU history when he
was healthy (on and off the field). I think that had he not been injured early
in the following year, the Y had a legitimate shot of winning all of their games
that year too.
Mule | 7:36 a.m. July 15, 2009
Hope Glen reads thesse messages. I went BYU and knew Glen and David Mills. I
knew him when he started to turn his life around. He was a very intense guy.
We have lost touch over the years and it is great to hear he is doing so well.
I enjoyed watching him play at BYU and for the Bears. I enjoy watching his son
now and hope he keeps up the family tradition at BYU. Best of luck to you and
your family Glen.
Cougar Fan | 7:53 a.m. July 15, 2009
I remember the '84 season. I was a freshman at the Y that year. It was
the most wonderful experience. I remember the talk about maybe playing in
another bowl game other than the Holiday Bowl, but I'm glad we didn't.
Michigan proved to be a tough enough opponent to win the national championship.
They were better than their record. They only lost 1 game the next year, and
we beat Washington the next year too. That just proves we were the #1 team in
the country. Yoot fans will say we didn't deserve it, but we'll
always have it.
We're #1, We're #1, We're #1, We're #1, We're #1, and U aren't.
We'll win another NC before Jake Heaps graduates, and U won't.
We won 2 of the last 3, and U didn't.
We are better than U. Rise and Shout the Cougars are out!
HA HA HA HA HA HA!
And Harline is still open!
We're #1, We're #1, We're #1, We're #1, We're #1, and U aren't.
We'll win another NC before Jake Heaps graduates, and U won't.
We won 2 of the last 3, and U didn't.
We are better than U. Rise and Shout the Cougars are out!
HA HA HA HA HA HA!
And Harline is still open!
the Koz | 8:11 a.m. July 15, 2009
From the Koz past to the new Koz, Keep that talent coming Good luck in 09
koz who? | 8:13 a.m. July 15, 2009
How old are these guys? Does anyone really remember 1984? You would have to at
least be 35 years old to say you remember this. I hope I'm not still
reading the DNews when I'm 35.
recalling Koz | 9:16 a.m. July 15, 2009
I remember the Koz and the great 1984 season. I've always wondered what
happend to GK and Julie after the Bears era. I'm so glad to hear about his
family and I'm excited to watch Tyler. I also sent 4 sons on missions and I
know the joy of that accomplishment. Good luck to the Koz family in the
future.
Ute | 9:17 a.m. July 15, 2009
Man,
I was about to write something nice about BYU until I read the BYU Fan comment.
Too bad there are lame fans on both teams.
Football is a fun sport to play and watch. And Tyler K is right when he says that he is representing the church as well. I wish the BYU fans were that aware.
Both teams represent our state and it would be nice if we both played with class and won.
It really is no wonder that ultimate fighting is so popular in provo. Bunch of silly wannabe tough guys. Nice job.
I was about to write something nice about BYU until I read the BYU Fan comment.
Too bad there are lame fans on both teams.
Football is a fun sport to play and watch. And Tyler K is right when he says that he is representing the church as well. I wish the BYU fans were that aware.
Both teams represent our state and it would be nice if we both played with class and won.
It really is no wonder that ultimate fighting is so popular in provo. Bunch of silly wannabe tough guys. Nice job.
FLR | 9:17 a.m. July 15, 2009
I am 83 yrs old and have been a BYU fan for eones due to the fact I've had
7 kids graduate there. 84 was a great year for BYU football. I remember being in
Yelowstone Park and listening to the Y beat Pitt in the first game of the season
and thought then maybe they could win it all and they did. I loved to watch Glen
and the others play. Good luck Cougars...
BYU fan | 9:34 a.m. July 15, 2009
No wonder Utah hates us. This is ridiculous and embarrassing.
Dr. J | 9:35 a.m. July 15, 2009
Ewte dude sez;
"How old are these guys? Does anyone really remember 1984? You would have to at least be 35 years old to say you remember this. I hope I'm not still reading the DNews when I'm 35."
You won't have time when you're 35, boy. With a degree from the U. you'll spend all your time pumping gas and washing windows to pay your trailer mortgage.
"How old are these guys? Does anyone really remember 1984? You would have to at least be 35 years old to say you remember this. I hope I'm not still reading the DNews when I'm 35."
You won't have time when you're 35, boy. With a degree from the U. you'll spend all your time pumping gas and washing windows to pay your trailer mortgage.
Bill from South Dakota | 9:38 a.m. July 15, 2009
Thanks for the articles on members of the '84 team. I was in the
Incomparable Cougar Marching Band and enjoyed the entire season. I'm glad
to see that Koz is doing well. BYU is a great school and I love BYU football.
Let's not let the rivalry with Utah get out of hand though. Life is bigger
than the gridiron.
Despite blowing out his knee | 9:44 a.m. July 15, 2009
twice his senior Koz was still considered one of the best wide receivers in
college football history. At one time he caught passes in something like 37
consecutive games. He was a legit player and despite his knee injuries played
in the NFL for eight seasons. I believe without those injuries he would have
been one of the great ones in the pros. Can anyone remember the pass in 1984 he
caught against Utah between three Utah defenders. I remember the Ute faithful
all rising up because they were certain they had intercepted the ball only to
find out that somehow, some way he ended up with it. Koz was a character and a
great player and though he didn't make a great pro he was definitely one of
the best college receivers of all time.
Re: Ute | 9:49 a.m. July 15, 2009
My sentiments exactly.
A BYU fan.
A BYU fan.
MWC Fan | 10:29 a.m. July 15, 2009
Unfortunately I've been reading these articles the past week... I have to
say that I am thoroughly embarrassed for the cougars while these are being
written. It's almost as if there's nothing better to say about BYU and
their program at the moment. Sure, Utah is getting all the national hype with 2
BCS Busting Seasons in 5 years... But BYU coming out with these set of articles
is ridiculous and humiliating. And to the cougar fan that wrote at 7:53am...
Wow. If you were a freshman in '84 that would make you over 40 years old
now... I am embarrassed for any 40 year old that still talks like he's
arguing over a kickball game. National Championship? Have you been watching
college football for the past 10 years? Mid-Majors don't make National
Championships. Ridiculous comments today folks. Get some class.
Jim in GA | 10:32 a.m. July 15, 2009
Dr.J,
Thanks for the laugh. The best one all day!
Koz, Thanks for the good memories at BYU, Bears, WGN, Temple, Sacrament mtg, etc. Way to go!
Thanks for the laugh. The best one all day!
Koz, Thanks for the good memories at BYU, Bears, WGN, Temple, Sacrament mtg, etc. Way to go!
Ernest T. Bass | 11:07 a.m. July 15, 2009
It must have been a difficult thing to watch BYU's long, slow slide into
mediocrity after winning the national championship in 1984.
T | 11:11 a.m. July 15, 2009
Why is it that Ute Fans have nothing better to do than get on here and rip on
BYU? Apparently there aren't enough success or happy stories for Ute fans
to share with each other.
Life is about change | 11:24 a.m. July 15, 2009
I love Utah football, but I love the LDS church more. A few silly fans can ruin
it for both sides. I love to see the change and the good that young people can
do on missions. Good to see the change is Mr. K. I still hate to see the 6
shooters. Class act Koz....
Nice Story | 11:36 a.m. July 15, 2009
I remember '84 like it was yesterday, I was 3 and BYU was on top of the
world. I intensely watched every game that season, Koz you wiley son of a gun,
you're antics were unprecedented. Crazy Cougars won every dang contest they
played in. Pandemonium folks, they have continued to get better every season.
Koz, stand up and bow, you truly are an American Idol in Provo during the mid
80's
Not a BYU fan or a Utah fan | 11:45 a.m. July 15, 2009
Ok Utah fans, years from now don't you dare talk about the year you guys
beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl or the year you crushed Pitt in Arizona to go
undefeated. Don't you dare talk about the awesome undefeated seasons you
experianced. You are only allowed to talk about it within a 3 year time limit.
As they say at USC just because one of our national titles is in 1930 that
doesn't mean it didn't happen. talk about jealous haters some of you
Utah fans have no class.
Tom in CA - Re: Ernest T | 11:51 a.m. July 15, 2009
After BYU became National Champions a rational thinker might conclude there is
only one way to "slide" - it usually is not UP. Actually for you,
Ernest T., the difficult thing has been for U to never see your utes be where
BYU has been. Any prediction on this year's 2009 Holy War score??
Eric | 12:42 p.m. July 15, 2009
Yawn ... you cared enough to read it. My sister Ph.d went to school with a
friend. Who was baptized by Koz... when he was working on 1 leg knee surgery.
Leon White was there too. Thanks for lots of memories..7..
BYU haters..... | 1:09 p.m. July 15, 2009
A couple of things:
First, you need to understand that a NC isn't something you do one year and forget the next. Just like BYU won one in '84, ya'll will be talking about your 2 BCS busting years until your grave so shut your hypocritical yappers.
Secondly, it's pathetic that you even pretend to look down on BYU and their past accomplishments in the 80's and 90's. BYU was the only college in the WAC and then the MWC that was commanding ANY respect from colleges around the nation. The reason the BCS was inducted WAS because BYU won the NC. If it wasn't for them, your two undefeated years wouldn't have even amounted to a blip on a radar screen to the college football world. You owe ANY credibility you have now, mostly to BYU of the 80's and then McBride stepping in for the 90's to start any kind of a program for your sorry football program.
I am sick to death of the haters commenting on here. Quit reading the stories. Go back to your pizza deliveries and don't read anymore.
Pete in Texas
First, you need to understand that a NC isn't something you do one year and forget the next. Just like BYU won one in '84, ya'll will be talking about your 2 BCS busting years until your grave so shut your hypocritical yappers.
Secondly, it's pathetic that you even pretend to look down on BYU and their past accomplishments in the 80's and 90's. BYU was the only college in the WAC and then the MWC that was commanding ANY respect from colleges around the nation. The reason the BCS was inducted WAS because BYU won the NC. If it wasn't for them, your two undefeated years wouldn't have even amounted to a blip on a radar screen to the college football world. You owe ANY credibility you have now, mostly to BYU of the 80's and then McBride stepping in for the 90's to start any kind of a program for your sorry football program.
I am sick to death of the haters commenting on here. Quit reading the stories. Go back to your pizza deliveries and don't read anymore.
Pete in Texas
re: MWC Fan | 1:17 p.m. July 15, 2009
BYU isn't pushing out these articles, it's Deseret News, and the
reason they're doing it is because this is the 25 year anniversary of the
1984 championship (you did read that little editor's note at the beginning
of these articles, didn't you?). It's called an anniversary piece.
Every news organization in the world does them for significant events that
happened in that region's history. And DN or the Trib will probably do the
same thing for the 10th., 15th., 20th., and 25th. year anniversaries of the
Utes' BCS bustin' seasons. In the meantime, chill down slightly.
Re: BYU haters.... | 1:17 p.m. July 15, 2009
Amen. I was going to add that back in the 80's and most of the 90's
BYU WAS considered by the rest of the nation as Utah's univerisity. Credit
McBride for bringing credibility to the U's program later on, but until
him, the Utes weren't talked about anywhere outside their own campus. It
used to be that the Utes ONLY cared about beating BYU because of the rivalry and
that made their season. They have risen above that now as a program and I can
give respect to the team they have become in the new millenium. But don't
ever buy into the little brother B.S. because had the Cougars not paved the road
for the Utes, they wouldn't be considered anything more than a Boise State
South. I'm not insulting the team by saying that, I'm simply saying
they would be viewed like the nation views Boise today. They have to earn
respect. The Utes team has been great the last decade and arguably were
deserving of the NC last season. Hate on the BCS for that but keep BYU out of
the hate. They don't deserve it.
To byu fan | 1:19 p.m. July 15, 2009
You're post is one of the lamest things I've ever read. No,
you're not #1. Once a very long time ago your team was considered to be #1.
Even though your strength of schedule that year was ranked # 84. Kind of like
being proud that your first kiss was with your sister, something BYU fans know a
lot about.
Oh Hey Max the UTE secondary is still open
Oh Hey Max the UTE secondary is still open
Anonymous | 1:23 p.m. July 15, 2009
DNEWS: Do New Yorkers have to read about the Bosox every day in the NYTIMES?
Please either start supporting our team or move to Provo.
CBT | 2:07 p.m. July 15, 2009
25 years from now the Utes can talk about the time they beat Alabama in the
Sugar Bowl and were ranked #2......hahaha.
Like it or not, the 1984 National Champ trophy resides in Provo, and always will.
Like it or not, the 1984 National Champ trophy resides in Provo, and always will.
soon to be 3 out of 4 | 2:08 p.m. July 15, 2009
We have a national championship, AND the best recruiting class in the MWC for
2010. What do you ewet fans have to say about that? Where's your title?
Who are your new recruits? Your pathetic. Nobody really knows who Utah is.
We're the most nationally recognized and respected non-BCS program, and
have been for decades.
Enter to learn, go fourth and 18. Ha ha ha!
Gooooooooooo Cougarrrrrrrrrrrrs!
Enter to learn, go fourth and 18. Ha ha ha!
Gooooooooooo Cougarrrrrrrrrrrrs!
Re: Ernest T. bASS | 2:17 p.m. July 15, 2009
Medicority after 84....i guess if you consider 12 Conference Championships since
then...compared to the Utes meager 5. And who's mediocre???
Since BYU and Utah both joined the WAC in 1962 and then the MWC in 2000, BYU has won 24 conference championships...Utah a mere 6. And you want to talk about mediocre programs. 2 conference championships between 1964-1995. Yeah, the Utes have had a great couple of years...in 2004 and 2008, but what about 2005-2007...talk about mediocre. How many 10+ win seasons do you have at the U?? A mere 4....BYU is about to have 4 in a row. And which program has a history of mediocrity??
Since BYU and Utah both joined the WAC in 1962 and then the MWC in 2000, BYU has won 24 conference championships...Utah a mere 6. And you want to talk about mediocre programs. 2 conference championships between 1964-1995. Yeah, the Utes have had a great couple of years...in 2004 and 2008, but what about 2005-2007...talk about mediocre. How many 10+ win seasons do you have at the U?? A mere 4....BYU is about to have 4 in a row. And which program has a history of mediocrity??
Yrag Notyalc | 2:17 p.m. July 15, 2009
Folks....or at least most of you folks, ya just DON'T get it!!! There will
always be a BYU and Utah thing! Don't try to stop it. Don't argue
against it or for it because you really have NO say in this one! IT WILL REMAIN
THE MOST BITTER RIVALRY in all college sports......AND IT AIN'T JUST
FOOTBALL!! And it AIN'T GOIN' AWAY! AND I MEAN A-I-N-'-T!!!! Who
would want it to, Enoch??
TO soon to be | 2:22 p.m. July 15, 2009
The only thing pathetic is your post. Its funny how the only time your hear
about how good BYU is is preseason. We all know what happens during the season.
How is your Quest going, still working on that are you? Everyone knows who the
UTES are, only BYU fans or 70 year olds know BYU. How can you be the most
respected non BCS team when you've never cracked it, you can barely win the
Vegas bowl. Boise is more well known than BYU. The only thing BYU is known for
is stealing a NC by beating crap teams.
Max Hall 6 interceptions, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Max Hall 6 interceptions, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Ute Fan | 2:22 p.m. July 15, 2009
I'm insecure about myself and my team, so I came on here to rip on BYU. I
personally have no athletic prowess or individual accomplishments, but I'm
qualified to rip on D1 athletes. I choose to selectively cite statistics and
wins and forget about my rivals major accomplishments. Until Alabama, we never
had a marquee win to hang our hat on so we have to rip on our rival to again,
make up for our major insecurities. I rip on BYU fan's that are jealous of
the BCS, which is Ironic because I'm jealous I didn't get accepted to
BYU. I cover it up by saying who would want to live in Provo and go to BYU? But
secretly I am embarrassed that I couldn't cut it. I now am a full fledged
member of the muss, I have the obligatory goatee and muss t-shirt and I'm a
real tough guy as long as my other insecure buddies are with me. Get me alone
and I'll wet myself. I am a utah man.
-signed,
Utah Man
-signed,
Utah Man
GridIron Sam | 2:25 p.m. July 15, 2009
Maybe for the 25th anniversary BYU can commemorate the event by beating Oklahoma
in September and help Barry Switzer eat some crow. One of the many enjoyable
experiences of Utah's win over Alabama in the Sugar Bowl in January was
Switzer having to eat his words from the beginning of the broadcast. Even at
halftime, he was too stubborn to admit that Utah was clearly kicking the tar out
of the Crimson Tide.
Old Cougar | 2:26 p.m. July 15, 2009
Yep... I'm one of the guys that was there for the 1984 national
championship. It was great. I still read the D-News and I still think the
Cougars have a great football program. A national championship is the pinnacle
for any program. The Cougars may never win another one... but we still have one
more than the Utes.
I'm sure I'll reminisce over the 1984 season in another 40 years if I'm still around. Hopefully, we'll have another national championship to remember too. Hopefully the Utes have one to remember also. The Utes keep bringing up 2004 and 2008. Those were great seasons... the best you've had. It's good to be proud of them. But don't try to diminish what the Cougars did just because the Utes have never won a national championship. It's still a greater accomplishment than being Sugar bowl champions. I mean, I could go on and on about great BYU seasons... like the one where we won 14 games and got the BCS talk rolling again. Are there any other 14 win teams that have never been invited to a major new years day bowl?
I'm sure I'll reminisce over the 1984 season in another 40 years if I'm still around. Hopefully, we'll have another national championship to remember too. Hopefully the Utes have one to remember also. The Utes keep bringing up 2004 and 2008. Those were great seasons... the best you've had. It's good to be proud of them. But don't try to diminish what the Cougars did just because the Utes have never won a national championship. It's still a greater accomplishment than being Sugar bowl champions. I mean, I could go on and on about great BYU seasons... like the one where we won 14 games and got the BCS talk rolling again. Are there any other 14 win teams that have never been invited to a major new years day bowl?
re: To byu fan | 2:30 p.m. July 15, 2009
"Once a very long time ago your team was considered to be #1. Even though
your strength of schedule that year was ranked # 84."
You give them too much credit. In 1984, the tdS' strength of schedule was ranked 104th out of 108. And look at all the "miracle/comeback" victories they needed to put away mediocre competition.
Air Force was the ONLY team to have notched 8 wins, and one of those wins was vs. Northern Colorado. Hawai'i won 7 games; 2 of which came via Long Beach St. and Pacific. With 13 opponents for the '84 season, 11 had 6 or fewer wins.
You give them too much credit. In 1984, the tdS' strength of schedule was ranked 104th out of 108. And look at all the "miracle/comeback" victories they needed to put away mediocre competition.
Air Force was the ONLY team to have notched 8 wins, and one of those wins was vs. Northern Colorado. Hawai'i won 7 games; 2 of which came via Long Beach St. and Pacific. With 13 opponents for the '84 season, 11 had 6 or fewer wins.
BYU fan | 2:45 p.m. July 15, 2009
Oh how I enjoy singing church hymns during timeouts. Nothing beats jumping out
of our seats to the tune of Popcorn Popping on the Apricot Tree. Golly how I
look forward to parting my hair neatly to the side and bending the rules by
wearing my knee length shorts just above the knee. I even enjoyed waving to the
nice Ute fans at RES last year knowing they were going to the sugar bowl and us
to OUR vegas bowl, heck we even won. But what I love the best is harkining back
to the days of yore (84). Hey BYU fans Try living in this decade.
re: re: to BYU Fan | 2:45 p.m. July 15, 2009
Byu Played the schedule it had. It had Pitt (on the road) who at the time was
#3, it beat Michigan, who earlier in the season was Ranked #2. Washington
claimed that they got screwed out of the title, but didn't accept the
invite to play in the Holiday bowl against BYU. the following year, BYU played
Washington and worked them over 31-3... PS 1984 championship team was a
rebuilding year b/c they had lost Steve Young and many veterans, they had a
great series of seasons leading up to and after the N.Championship. BYU played
the hand it was dealt and had zero losses. Enough said. Grow up.
Ryan | 3:56 p.m. July 15, 2009
as a Ute fan I loved watchin Glen and even wore 88 in high school (his # w/ the
bears) and followed him closely. Glad to hear he is doing well.
@ 2:45 | 4:36 p.m. July 15, 2009
"Washington claimed that they got screwed out of the title,...the following
year, BYU played Washington and worked them over 31-3..."
I love how zoobs like to cling to their 31-3 victory over Washington in '85 as some sort of evidence '84 was authentic. Especially the following has been pointed out over and over ad nauseum: THE '85 COUGARS PROVIDED UTEP THEIR ONLY WIN OF THE SEASON!
Somehow, to zoobies, beating the Huskies in '85 validates '84, but losing to UTEP that same year doesn't prove anything. That's called good-old-fashioned-zoobie-logic.
Point of Order: The '84 UWa team was 11-1; the '85 UWa. team was 7-5. Different teams. The '84 tdS squad was 13-0; in '85, they were 11-3. THREE losses; different teams.
Incidently, 2 of those 3 losses came vs opponents with > 9 FBS teams. THIS is what happens when the tdS plays GOOD teams rather than mediocre ones.
I love how zoobs like to cling to their 31-3 victory over Washington in '85 as some sort of evidence '84 was authentic. Especially the following has been pointed out over and over ad nauseum: THE '85 COUGARS PROVIDED UTEP THEIR ONLY WIN OF THE SEASON!
Somehow, to zoobies, beating the Huskies in '85 validates '84, but losing to UTEP that same year doesn't prove anything. That's called good-old-fashioned-zoobie-logic.
Point of Order: The '84 UWa team was 11-1; the '85 UWa. team was 7-5. Different teams. The '84 tdS squad was 13-0; in '85, they were 11-3. THREE losses; different teams.
Incidently, 2 of those 3 losses came vs opponents with > 9 FBS teams. THIS is what happens when the tdS plays GOOD teams rather than mediocre ones.
87 BYU | 4:41 p.m. July 15, 2009
I was there and went to all the home games. Thanks for the wonderful memories
KOZ.
re:....to BYU Fan | 2:45 | 5:00 p.m. July 15, 2009
First, I’d like to correct a previous statement:
In my last post, I said, “Incidently, 2 of those 3 losses came vs opponents with > 9 FBS teams.” What I MEANT to say was “Incidently, 2 of those 2 losses came vs opponents with > 9 FBS WINS.”
Now, on to my next point:
You said:
"PS 1984 championship team was a rebuilding year b/c they had lost Steve Young and many veterans, they had a great series of seasons leading up to and after the N.Championship."
I'm glad you pointed that out. Since '84 was your "rebuilding year", then by your own admission, 1985, with a Senior QB, SHOULD have been a better year. But, as I already pointed out, you actually played 2 good teams that year. And lost to both of them. And UTEP.
Since 1985, the tdS has had 9 10+ win seasons, but how did they get those 10 wins? If we were to classify a "solid opponent" as a BCS team > 8 FBS wins, or a non-BCS team that finished the season ranked, the tdS' record, since '85, would be 4-12.
Conclusion: By soft scheduling.
In my last post, I said, “Incidently, 2 of those 3 losses came vs opponents with > 9 FBS teams.” What I MEANT to say was “Incidently, 2 of those 2 losses came vs opponents with > 9 FBS WINS.”
Now, on to my next point:
You said:
"PS 1984 championship team was a rebuilding year b/c they had lost Steve Young and many veterans, they had a great series of seasons leading up to and after the N.Championship."
I'm glad you pointed that out. Since '84 was your "rebuilding year", then by your own admission, 1985, with a Senior QB, SHOULD have been a better year. But, as I already pointed out, you actually played 2 good teams that year. And lost to both of them. And UTEP.
Since 1985, the tdS has had 9 10+ win seasons, but how did they get those 10 wins? If we were to classify a "solid opponent" as a BCS team > 8 FBS wins, or a non-BCS team that finished the season ranked, the tdS' record, since '85, would be 4-12.
Conclusion: By soft scheduling.
LOL | 5:08 p.m. July 15, 2009
This message board is hilarious. As a grad of both universities my favorite
posts are by the trolls. I highly doubt Cougarfan 7:53am is a BYU fan. Ute Fan
and BYU fan's posts are pure comedy and the gas pumping and quest digs are
just classic. Here's my trolling for the day:
BYU Fan: I just want to congratulate Coach Whittingham on finally catching up to Gary Crowton's four year record for MWC titles and ten win seasons. Of course, crowton was fired after those four years and Whitt got a raise...no wait crouton actually "resigned."
Ute Fan: It's kind of sad how BYU has choaked in every big game since I was in diapers. Going back 25 years to talk smack almost makes me feel bad for the zoobies...almost.
I'm so conflicted I can't stand it. Oh wait...I'm really just a troll. Come do your worste defenders of the faith.
BYU Fan: I just want to congratulate Coach Whittingham on finally catching up to Gary Crowton's four year record for MWC titles and ten win seasons. Of course, crowton was fired after those four years and Whitt got a raise...no wait crouton actually "resigned."
Ute Fan: It's kind of sad how BYU has choaked in every big game since I was in diapers. Going back 25 years to talk smack almost makes me feel bad for the zoobies...almost.
I'm so conflicted I can't stand it. Oh wait...I'm really just a troll. Come do your worste defenders of the faith.
Utefire | 5:30 p.m. July 15, 2009
Kozlowski was an amazing receiver. If you are a college football fan you had to
love to watch Koz make some of those crazy catches. I loved watching McMahon
play also. Interesting they both ended up in Chicago. It is shame that the
writer tries to make a connection between the two teams because Koz's son
is on this team. Seems a little "propoganda-ish". Same with the
"band of brothers" title.
It is unfortunate the amount of illogical hate associated with some of these blogs too.
It is unfortunate the amount of illogical hate associated with some of these blogs too.
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