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Published: Sunday, July 12 2009 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Xente

I love Sap and think he's still got a high ceiling. He'll work to hit it too. But, I think he is replaceable. Booze will have a great year. Either way the Jazz go is not bad. However, are we going to win a championship this year with one or the other or even both? NO! Rebuilding time baby.

Let Sap walk, trade Booze and AK to Houston for TMac's crappy expiring contract, Landry or Scola, and a first round pick. Develop Koufos and let Memo play the 4. Let the team be scrappy and entertaining while losing and keep our pick in the lotto. If we're good, we'll lose our pick to Philly.

Next year, 2 picks in the lottery and possibly a good 3rd pick from the trade. 3 first round picks and a lot of money to throw at Wade, Joe Johnson, Bosh, etc. We'd be good in 2010 and for years after that.

arch

Sound like millsap was in it for the money. See ya milsap sitting on the bench in portland when you could have been a starter in utah

Portland fan

This is a lousy situation for you guys. You must just HATE Boozer now! So....are you all going to boo him on opening night? He has just done everything he can to hurt your team. What a double-crosser.

I wouldn't blame your management if they don't match this offer.

Not to be a total jerk, but I think Portland should make a tiny offer to Brevin Knight, too.

Portland fan again

There's not much underhanded about this. BOOZER is the one holding you random. Portland signed Millsap to an offer - Millsap signed on the dotted line - because we want him.

Calling us bullies and underhanded - really? We suffered for YEARS with awful teams because we overpaid some shady guys. Now you're dealing with that. It was our mistake then (Randolph, Darius Miles) and its your management's fault now (though they must feel really double-crossed by Boozer and I don't blame them).

The only way it's underhanded is if Portland doesn't really want Millsap. In that case, this would be leverage to force Utah to agree to Portland's terms in a 3-way trade to unload Boozer. (My guess is Utah had a chance BEFORE the signing, if this is the case, and tried to call Portland's bluff.) If Portland is happy to do that but ALSO happy to have Millsap, then sorry, it's not underhanded.

Certainly not more underhanded than Utah's original acquisition of Boozer, ironically. A little karma maybe.

Doesn't matter

Doesn't matter if it was underhanded or not.. Pritchard hasn't shown himself, yet, to be that canny a gamer. Over paying players just because you have the money results in teams like the much feared Isaiah Thomas Knicks. Paul Allen isn't a billionaire because he's stupid. Sooner or later Pritchard will have to show real results..not just high profile but meaningless moves

It doesn't make a lot of difference if you have a whole busload of quality role players unless you also have a couple of legitimate franchise players to lead the way. Right now, Portland is already in a much better competitive position than the Jazz.. Assuming you can get your talented players on the same page with management and coaches. ed in az

ed in az

Oh, and the Jazz did nothing underhanded in signing Carlos in the first place. The Cav's allegedly asked him to do something that was clearly against league rules and against his own self interest.. Just so he could stay with LeBron.. Surprise! He signed with Utah for a few tens of $Millions more than the potential Cavs offer.. There is no one who says that the Jazz knew anything about a WINKY WINKY arrangement between the Cavs and Carlos...

If it actually ever happened, it speaks to Carlos character, and not to the Jazz breaking or bending any league rules. He may have broken his word, but we'll never know.

Karma has yet to play a punitive role for Carlos or the Jazz

Jake

The Millsap deal is probably about right, of course the Jazz could have offered him earlier instead of allowing him to play for such a disgraceful (under $800k) pay compared to other players in the league. I'd be feeling very little love from the Jazz too if I were Millsap, but the bottom line is he's a talent worth having for sure. Also if we look back to our 12 wins in a row, as Boozer came back watch his numbers go up and Millsap's numbers go down, yet the loss's started piling up with Boozer back. It's an easy and clear decision to move Booz. The upside to this is if we can make a move with Chicago for Tyrus Thomas, we are into Milsap and Thomas for about the same money as Boozer, which means we get offense and defense that far out ways Boozer.

jake

However I think some of the key problems start from the top.. Sloan is a good 45-55 wins per season coach, but it takes 60+ to really show you are ready for a finals. Look what Adelman did to Houston this last year without t-mac. Watch what happens to Artest this year after being coached by Jackson, Jackson knows how to get into players heads and get them thinking the right way. Next, stats only show a portion of a players abilities, which if you see what Milsap has been able to do, he fills the shoes of Boozer easy, and also is a teammate you want with his workhorse approach vs Boozer's half effort.

jake

Part 3
Look at Boozer in the Olympics... every time he was on the court it hurt the team and showed how much better talent there is in players like Bosh and Wade... We need D-Will to go to work in recruiting Wade and Bosh, move Boozer the cancer, trade AK for Tmac to clear having to pay AK 17 mill next year, then we have options, resign TMAC on an affordable contract if he does well, or take that 23 million plus Hapring's 6.5 mill, and go after Bosh and Wade!!! Deron, Bosh and Wade gets us a ring for sure!!!

We won't be able to change the stgma of this market without getting some big names and thats what it's going to take to get rings.

jake

Part 4
Look at Boozer in the Olympics... every time he was on the court it hurt the team and showed how much better talent there is in players like Bosh and Wade... We need D-Will to go to work in recruiting Wade and Bosh, move Boozer the cancer, trade AK for Tmac to clear having to pay AK 17 mill next year, then we have options, resign TMAC on an affordable contract if he does well, or take that 23 million plus Hapring's 6.5 mill, and go after Bosh and Wade!!! Deron, Bosh and Wade gets us a ring for sure!!!

We won't be able to change the stgma of this market without getting some big names and thats what it's going to take to get rings.

Miles

OK dreamers, we are not going to get Bosh or Wade unless we do a sign and trade for them this year with Boozer. As free agents they are not going to come here and play. Tmac has not proven to anyone that he will even be able to play in the future. He might be done. The best thing the Jazz can do is play out the season and free up as much money as possible while the youngsters on the team get experience. If Jerry could develop CJ, Brewer and Koufus and even Fez into being better players then we could use Boozers, Millsaps, Harprings and Korvers money to fill in the gaps for 2010. We wouldn't have to rebuild from scratch but for one year. Save the money now, pay for better players next year. Keep Boozer for the year. Let Millsap walk, retire Harpring and keep Korver for the year. Who cares what our record is this year, we are not going to win the championship.

Cody

You have to Match Millsap. After this year, he gets 6 to 7 Mil a year and that frees up money for a shooting 2 or 3. We're going to loose Boozer anyway and besides, he wants more than $12,700 per year. Look at what other players are making and you'll see Paul's worth it. AK's contract will be off the books after next year and the Jazz will reload.

SJ

Too many idiot fans posting that the offer is too much. I thought the same way until I read the details. Remove the signing bonus and the contract IS the 6 million mid-level range. The Jazz need to match the deal, trade Boozer for two other mid-level players, and rotate Millsap, Okur, AK, and Koufas at PF depending on the opposing line-up. The Jazz should consider the bonus back pay for getting Millsap at a bargain the past 3 years.

inthewilds

the jazz will pay 20.6 mil. with the luxury tax. they have to unload boozer in a lopsided deal, and the only team left under the limit is OKC. they don't want boozer. any other trade and the jazz still pay the tax.

Miles.

the blazers finished with 54 wins the second best record in the west tied with the nuggets and spurs.
they were the forth seed due to the tie breaker. thier also the second youngest team in the league, and with milsap, well lets let the chips fall as they may.

good luck SLC

Stupid Management?

What is the point of saying you will match any offer for someone you want to keep. It just encourages a team (IE Portland) to try to figure out a contract that is to painful to match. It did not work the last time they tried it (Mo Williams). They kept their mouths shut with CJ and he got a reasonable offer which they matched.

It seems the Jazz Management either are stupid if they really wanted Millsap back or if they did not then they were trying to get someone to overpay.

I do not get the strategy here??

Todorojo

The loss of this young man is going to come back to haunt the Jazz. Boozer doesn't even want to be here. Sure, he says he does when other teams pass him over because he's a classic hold-out type of player. But Millsap is the sort of role player every team would love to have. Jazz have another non-championship round year ahead of them and many more to look forward to after that. Sad.

RE: Blazer Fan Predictions

You can have Milsap and the contract that goes with it. We're not going to pay him 10 times what we paid him last year and pay him $20 million in effective cost next year. As for your predictions they are accurate until the Suns and Rockets are shown above the Jazz. They are both rebuilding and have lost key players (Shaq and Yao) The Jazz will be in the playoffs next year and have a chance to win it all with Boozer, if he sticks it out for the year.

blazerfan

Correction as far as standings,, if u take a close look,, blazers finished tied for second place in the western conference, Utah finished 8th.

bla, bla ,bla

Suck to let go Paul from the Team, He is a lot better than CJ Miles, also Kirilenko doesnt deserve the giant paycheck just being a "backup" player, what's wrong with the organization?????!!!!!!
Please keep the good ones, AK 47 is over, he is not the all star we have years ago, Boozer...he is just a basketball pimp and CJ...go back to highschool!!!

matt

just say no to millsap. i love paul but for not the money. if you are going to pay 10 mil then at least try and get odom or try to get lee for 7. keep booz/williams/okur long term

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