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Jason Hickey | 12:47 a.m. July 11, 2009

It's been climate change all along, Duane. The only alarmist is yourself. Go ahead, ignore it. But I'm not your excuse for 'same old sameold'.

JMT | 5:17 a.m. July 11, 2009

Jason, how in the world can you ignore the overwhelming scientific data that demonstrates the world temps have been consistently decreasing for 11 years now?

Amazaing, simply amazing.

This has never been about healthy living but always about redistribution of wealth and political power. The environmental movement is a watermelon. Green on the outside and communist red in the middle.

Facts are facts, and the earth is not warming but cooling. The environmental movement is a fraud!

Wait a minute... | 5:45 a.m. July 11, 2009

The only people using the term "alarmist" (or silly variations) are the deniers.

And BTW, the "cooling" trend you refer to is a fantasy. Go look at the data.

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Global Warming All Along | 6:07 a.m. July 11, 2009

Ever since Arrhenius proposed the theory of C02-induced global warming in 1896 it's been about global warming. The term "climate change" first appeared in the 1980's when climate scientists realized that much of the data used to support the global warming theory was lacking in quality and quantity and could not explain many of the inconsistencies between observed temperatures and global warming model predictions, inconsistencies that continue to the present time.

Honest Luke | 7:40 a.m. July 11, 2009

You're right, Duane. Soon they'll be telling us we need to fight climate normality.

Roland Kayser | 8:06 a.m. July 11, 2009

Many scientists have indeed conceded that they were wrong about global warming. They now think that their projections were far too optimistic. The consequences of global warming are worse than they originaly thought. For instance, the glaciers in the Andes and Himalayas, which irrigate the crops for a huge chunk of humanity, are receding far faster than anyone predicted. The Greenland Ice Sheet is shrinking far faster than anyone predicted. There are many more examples if you would care to look at some actual science.

Changing Globe | 8:54 a.m. July 11, 2009

Apparently some in the world just woke up and realized that the climate changes. This latest use of an uncertain world proves that scammers can concoct a scheme out of anything. In the olden days scammers for power and money were among the few that could calculate when there would be an eclispe and they would pretend to the ignorant masses that they could control the sun and the moon. Modern day scammers are pretending that they can control the global climate. Things haven't changed that much. There's always a new generation of suckers.

Anonymous | 11:25 a.m. July 11, 2009

I know who makes money off the warming opponents, the oil companies. But who makes money from using less fuel? I save money conserving.

Anonymous | 1:11 p.m. July 11, 2009

What is the extent of human contribution to the global climate change we are experiencing? Just to deny that global climate does not change (either get warmer or cooler over time) for political reasons is disengenuous. If there is significant change in either direction, there is a problem for the planet.

However, much of the change is natural, but an increasing amount is due to human activity. The data indicates this, but special interests who profit from the activities that create the pollution spend large amounts of money to protect the way they continue to do business.

This is a situation where business/industry trumps science, and the last administration was so anti-science that they were in the pocket of business/industry.

RE: Roland Kayser | 5:05 p.m. July 11, 2009

IN just last few decades we have developed techlongies and gain abilities to measure things better than we have ever before.

Perhaps things are mostly just the same, and with new measuring just appears different.

and we are just more able to see the natural changes and cylces of nature, unlike we we able to before.

Maybe glaciers have always been growing and shrinking seasonally and over greater periods of time as well,

and we are just able seee that more clearly.

So rather acting irrationally, and try to scare everybody, and run crazily announcing we are all going die and the sky is falling,

let's use some common sense.

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