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"Freedom is no longer valued, law is ignored, the Constitution is trampled, government-enforced theft of private property abounds, book-length legislation neither read nor understood is jammed through under false pretenses, PC-foolishness and eco-nonsense permeate, unfathomable spending and debt enslave us.
All branches of government have become corrupt."
Paul Sharp, why are you are talking about the Bush Admin still? It's okay, they are gone.
You must be a graduate of the new education system that this nation is subjected to.
You do not know your history very well.
In the 1770's the British had a very powerful military.
It was thought by some that those who wanted to break away from English rule were quite mad.
That those wanted to break free of the English tyranny would never be able to defeat such a military force.
The early Americans patriots (terrorists under the Dept of Homeland Security guidelines of today) really did not want to break the ties with England, but taxes and other unjust policies created by King George forced them to revolt against English rule.
Today this nation is near the same conditions that existed in the 1770s'. High taxes, too many insane rules and leaders that will not listen to the ones who voted them into office.
What will happen in the next 3.5 years?
I really do not know precisely what will happen.
It will get real interesting though.
I have a feeling that these will be considered the good old days. Days of wine and roses.
Wine loses its favor and roses do die.
The revolution is occurring right now and I am happy to report that you are on the losing side. But thanks for the daily dose of foolish rhetoric.
We should just buck up and let it happen?
I don't think the letter-writer intends an armed conflict with our military, but rather a cultural revolution that removes current idiots from power.
Too bad that all you can do is call names when such important subjects are brought up. Perhaps whiners like you should be left on the sidelines of such important discussion and leave the serious talk to the grown-ups.
Look around -- a revolution is underway! We've got a president with the guts to address America's oil addiction, get people access to healthcare, stop torture, re-build ties with allies and open dialogue with enemies, exit an ill conceived war on Iraq, encourage energy efficiency, address climate change, use science to set policy, and revive the economy beyond tax cuts for the rich. What a breath of fresh air from the stale Bush era.
Bush believed government was evil and sought ways to gut it. Obama wants to make government work and be responsive to the will of the people to fix all the crises instigated by the Bush Administration. Bush's poor response to Katrina victims epitomized the Bush era philosophy of apathy and government ineffectiveness.
Watching Obama clean up Bush's mess and restore America's integrity amongst its citizens and the world is exciting. Stay tuned!
Republicans lost the election fair and square. They deserved to lose. They don't like the fact that they lost - so surprise there. Why are they acting like a bunch of spoiled brats?
What's with the temper tantrums and veiled threats?
Grow up.
And do it in the PRIMARIES if you don't want to vote for "the other party."
1 - I abhor both parties' administrations (and Utah's 2 past governors as well). There is "no difference in direction, but only speed."
2 - For those who think government is headed down the right road these days, I can only respond: that's why I think we're beyond recovery. There are now so many stupid enough to believe that government is the answer (there are exceptions such as naitonal defense) that they deserve it.
PAUL SHARP
From Registration fees to government bailouts. Maybe if I break my nail on that "Communist" Library door I'll ask to gather the rest of my fellow Utahn citizens for revolution!
I hate to tell you Paul but you don't live out on the prarie in your little log cabin anymore. This world is so large and interconnected that the size and complexity of the world requires a pro-active and involved government if we have any desire to fulfill our destiny of freedom and equality.
How are we to help Obama save himself? We now have the economists coming out and saying that everything is about to look like the days of Jimmy Carter.
1. Peacefully petition for the redress of grievances.
2. Keep up the clamor for change we can really believe in: reduction of taxes made possible by the elimination of government programs and their bureaucracies, except a bare bones minimum, freedom in the economy, specific controls denying presidential usurpations of power by strictly defining and specifying "executive orders" etc.
3. Maintain freedom of speech and exercise it politely, consistently and perpetually.
4. Be involved in mass meetings and other forms of local democracy.
All of the points in the letter come from the AM radio crowd.
No ideas, just hate. Like the repub leaders would have it.
I think that if we could have a theocrisy headed by somebody who spoke directly to God, that we would be in a much better condition than we are in right now.
As for harping on Utah, what would you like, a government like Michigan, New York, Lousianna, or California?
Personally I wish we had more states like Wyoming that typically pay for a project with money in hand, rather than issuing bonds for them.
This nation is going down. I don't care who is President, who you blame or what kind of positive outlook you may have, it will not change the inevitable. What will fix this nation is Americans, not government. I agree with the letter writer. It's beyond recovery.
It sounds like you're pretty comfortable with the way things are going now that Obama is President. "Pride [and complacency] precedes the fall".
What exactly are you progressing towards?
The point was that 'colonists' were denied the 'rights of Englishmen' that is to say their economy, for example, was dictated by royal ministers in Britain, with manufacture severely restricted, and the thirteen colonies coercively restricted to mostly supplying raw materials to the 'mother country'.
The taxation, low as it was by today's levels, was "without representation".
That was the point. Denied the rights of Englishmen by British policy and officials, those rights, and more besides, were recognized, and freely exercised in the new and independent nation -The United States of America.
OR, you could find a new homeland that fits your style better. May I suggest Costa Rica? It's warm, your retirement dollars go a long way, and a good system would perhaps get you American TV. They have no army, so your chances of taking over are greater, although this also means few conquest-related holidays. If you ditch the revolution plan, they even have golf courses.
Life's full of tradeoffs, Paul. But anyone as stirred up as you should be willing to look at some bold options. Viva la revolucion!
Right. Storm the Bastille for Rush O'Hannity.
LOL!
Where were these neocons 8 and 4 years ago?
It may take YEARS to undo what the previous administration brought upon us.
Meanwhile, they've taken the money and ran away with it.
I thought that liberals claimed to love everybody, and accept everybody and their ideas.
Even some of the liberals who typically are reasonable are just on one today. What happened over the weekend that the liberals are out for blood today?
This is the same line that is repeated whenever conservatives are not in power. The don't like not having their way in the halls of power, and they cry "doom and gloom" because they are sitting in the back seat.
Somehow, conservatives are oblivious to how they leave the nation when they lose power. They never understand why they lose it (always assuming that they are "perfect"), and pay no attention to the people who are affected by their policies and decisions.
People just get tired of being pulled over the coals, and having their hopes and dreams trashed. Yes, for conservatives, being out of office is doom and gloom, but for the millions of others, it's a new day. The only "doom and gloom" is in the hearts of the losers.
After eight years of listening to the Michael Moore-leftie San Francisco liberal shriek of "the sky is falling", now I get to enjoy bloviated pontifications from the defeated jingo Know-Nothings on the right.
Thanks, Mr. Sharp, for being the other side of silly exaggeration coin.
Yes I am comfortable with the way things are trending, and what in the world does pride preceeds the fall mean? I thought your ilk was the flag waving I'm proud to be an American type.
And what are we progressing towards, a country that values the freedom and liberty of everyone, an economy that distributes wealth fairly while providing opportunity and rewarding responsibility, and a nation that views itself as a member of the world community.
Lose an election and they want a revolution.
LOL!
If we didn't have a government we'd be told exactly what to do and say by the likes of Rush O'Hannity.
This is not the same government of Jefferson, it is a living and breathing system. God bless this great land and its government.
It's a full moon tomorrow... That's when all the crazies come out...
called him personally. He said that he was very disturbed with the video and
invited him to the White House. Obama also said he wanted the White House to handle the Press and not to talk about the video or the White House visit.
That's interesting.
Watch it now. This may be the best six minutes invested in your future
You may have to turn your Sound Control up some.
YouTube - We The People Stimulus Package
The radical right has gone around the bend.
What exactly are you suggesting people do? Go out and start shooting other people? Tell me, exactly what are you advocating?
If you are advocating violence, then you had better be prepared for the consequences of your words.
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Barack Obama is going to be your president for at least three-and-a-half more years, Utah. Time to put on your big-boy pants and deal with it.