We all know that the players are overpaid and i wish that there were some kind
of guidelines on what a player should make. Look @ Portlands track record last
year there two highest paid players were not even on the floor or the
bench..Steve Francis around 12 Mil and LaFrence about the same...now they r done
with that nightmare they are trying to re-enter another..big money ok player/
big hopes/ overexpectations...my point is money doesn't make anyonone a better
player...so dont over pay..and then overexpect!!!You will always be disapointed
Jsmack,I'm pretty sure you mean Rasheed Wallace, rather than Ben.
Sheed was the PF, Ben the C. That Detroit team was built around a
system centered on execution and defense, period, no specific player.The Jazz sysytem depends on a solid low-post scorer to succeed, fed by who I
believe to be the man it is built around, a guard...Deron Williams.I'd love to nab a 7-foot PF, but the fact is that big men with that kind of
talent can't be found just running around the local playground. Height is not
simply the only piece of a championship puzzle.
isn`t that good of a outside shooter,average at best,and he does nothing
else...does nothing to make the Jazz better,GO JAZZ
Sloanaholics: How do any of you know IF cj WAS INSTRUCTED by your leader to
stand behind the 3 point line and stay out of the way as much as possible and if
open just shoot...When I hear again how Jerry develops young
players..Sure that is why after 3 years people still do not know if Ron can
shoot enough to be a solid #2 guard. I agree with Miles on this, I think CJ has
a world of potential and can be outstanding in this league. A lot of it not
developing maybe he is lazy, then again it is up to all the coaches to bring the
best out of him. To me Ty Corbin should have the assignment to be like a
personal mentor...Please remember the playoffs are different than
the season. The Jazz defense against the bottom 5 garbage West teams and many
east teams because of the firepower can get by playing average-poor defense. The squad you develop needs to be built not only for regular season but
playoffs because that is what matters.
needs to work on his 15-18 foot jumper,if it improves a bit he could play some
at the 3,which I think is by far our weak spot,if nothing else start AK at the 3
at least we have get some scoring/rebounding/blocks and defense,last year was a
terrible experiment gone wrong with miles at the SF
is listed at 6`8,250 Artest at 6`7,246,maybe we should look at Paul being more
of an Artest than a Malone....Paul is quick for his size,could slide over to the
3 spot depending on the match-up and still play some 4/5 once again depending on
the situatuon,I`m up-beat about this year,PG-Williams/whoever,SG
Brewer/Korver,SF AK/Millsap,PF Boozer/Millsap/Koufos,Center
Memo/Koufos/Fes,thats nine deep,Sloan rarely goes deeper,whacha all think?
last year at 760.000 yes what ever he gets paid is a big jump. that dosent mean
he is not worth that big of a pay raise that means he was about the lowest paid
man in the nba. players on the jazz that never played made more.it was kind of
sicking to watch him play knowing what they was paying him when he was playing
hurt i figured he would blow a knee out then they would throw him away like a
piece of gum and never cross there mind again. so i hope he gets what ever he
can out of them. still think other teams are looking we just aint hearing. hope
he gets his 10 mil in okc bet the fans would love to have him.
I disagree that Boozer is probably the worst defensive starting PF in teh NBA.
He is far from the best but every one talks about how bad he is when in reality
he does make plays on defense. He is also taller than Millsap. Odom and Gasol
get more offensive rebounds against Millsap than against Boozer. Teams back down
Millsap much more than Boozer. Millsap is a bette defender but to be honest I
would take Boozer over Millsap any day. I love Millsap and don't want to see him
go but if Booz will take a pay cut(not likely) then I say keep him and dump Paul
if needs be. I think what really needs to happen is that both should probably be
traded to really get to a championship contender though. I just think IF Boozer
is healthy(also not likely) for an an entire season then he would be a much
better peice than Millsap. Millsap is too small to play PF and too bad of a
shooter to play the 3. Most analysts say that Boozer is one of the top PFs in
the game when healthy and Millsap is a top 6th man
Management called Okur's, Boozers, and Korvers bluffs on the opt outs.The result?They have them all playing again for less than if we
would have extended their contracts.They offer Millsap the
qualifying 1 million dollar to keep him restricted. Maybe that is what he plays
for next season?Who is looking smart now? The Jazz kept
essentially everyone they wanted and it never cost them anymore than they had
originally planned on. (Yes, they knew years ago that it was possible that they
might pay a small amount of luxury tax for 1 year).FACT:Everyone around here in SLC believed at the beginning of last season that this
team had a chance to contend. Hollinger of ESPN also said so IF they were
healthy.What happened? D-Will's ankle--out for 15 and affected his
play the whole season. Bozo 45 games plus. AK--his ankle. Then Korvers wrist
affected his shot ALL season. Then Okur goes down for the playoff series.It is a freakin miracle we even made the playoffs and we were a top 3-4
seed until the final 5 games!!Everyone is back--hopefully healthy to
make a run!!!
You like so many other fans only look at about half the game. True that Boozer
is the better offensive player but you forget that Boozer is also probably the
worst defensive starting PF in the NBA. The Jazz are a soft, weak defensive team
with little heart and those are all attributes Boozer brings to the table. The
Jazz are much better off with Millsap over Boozer because he brings some
toughness, defense and heart and his offensive game is improving. Paul's
offensive game isnt much different than Boozers was after 2 years in the league
and he has received less playing time.True that Millsap is not a
franchise player, but you only need one of those and a well rounded team to win
a championship i.e. Detroit and San Antonio.
A lot of people are saying that Millsap is better than Boozer and that you don't
lose much when you lose Boozer. I disagree because Boozer is so good with his
post moves that teams will double team him and try to deny him the ball. If you
look when he came back from injury Korver started to shoot better. Korver was
shooting so bad and then Booz is back and gets double teamed then Korver gets
better looks. Not only Korver but the team started to shoot better from outside.
Millsap does not ever get double teamed and he can't catch the ball on the block
and make a move with his back to the basket. Boozer can. I think Boozer is
shouldn't be getting 12 mil a year but if you pay Millsap anything over 6 you
are shooting yourself in the foot. I say send Millsap and CJ to Detroit for
Hamilton. He hustles and plays defense and can score. Or Prince also would be
good. You can get more now if you trade millsap than if you trade Boozer and you
lose less of a threat if millsap leaves
i belive harpering 6 mil klinko 16 mil boz 12 mil. caint build franchise around
them either. only one player on the team to do that williams. williams 15 mil
okur 9 mil millsap 9 mill brewer 7 mil. the rest dont matter.
comma man great to see you back in action. Nice work
RE: CJ3RE: Anonymous | 9:12 a.m. July 6, 2009 Was
detroit Offese BUILT around ben wallace?HOW many teams have won
championship with thier offense built around a 6'9 or shorter PF?NOt
since 70's when players and the tams were shorter.LA is NOT
built around gasol,nowitzski plays NO defense.Those 6'9 and
under PFs were role players and bench players, NOT the feature player or
players of the team.An that's my point,When you depend
on a high scoring undersized PF (often with taller ones too like nowitzski,
webber)you don't win championships.a millsap or boozer might work as
a role player, if you had a dominant bigman that they played along
side of,if they are willing to be a role player,or
atleast willing to be the number two or three guy.
and lose miles..."the worthless one"
The only way for the Jazz to build a contender is via the draft. Franchise changing/All-Star level free agents will not sign in Salt Lake City
unless it is the last resort - non-elite free agents will sign w/ the Jazz if
they overpay. Small market teams pay a heavy price for overpaying
players/free agent mistakes. Focus on the draft.
Truejazz warriorPF tweeners only get paid more when it is beneficial to
their play. Milsap is an undersized PF making his combination an hindrance to
his productivity. If the Jazz pay more than $6 mil for him I will be extremely
disappointed. This is coming from a Milsap fan too. Paul is not a player that
we can build around or "the future of the Jazz," instead he is only a great
hustle player who comes off the bench.
I never thought Milsap was a franchise player. I love to see him in a Jazz
uniform more than any other player. He represents everything that good about
basketball and pro-sports. He works hard and plays well and I would rather see
that in a player than what I see in Boozer and AK47 any day.
someone was talking about how expensive it is to go to a game? just a little on
that...i was at the lakers, celtics and both hornets games last year and didnt
pay more than 10 bucks for any ticket. given they were up there (nosebleeds) but
still, a lot of fun. you can find tickets for cheap, just look (internet). also
one of the hornets games and the celtics i got my tickets less than a week
before the game.
Your right milsap is good he is a hard worker but starting at 10 million a
season get lost paul! I know that the thunder cant pay him that. Paul is worth
about 5 years 35-45 million. Not only that the size he is and the position that
he plays wont command a 10$ million salary he is a tweener and tweeners get
Clearly nice post great work. Jazz do overpay to keep this guy he is not Boozer
JSmack,While I do agree that the league is trending toward the
7-foot forward, there are plenty of recent ring-bearers under 6'10''If, like me, you consider Duncan a center over the last few years, 5 of the
last 10 championships have been won with an "undersized" PF.At only
an inch more than Boozer the list reaches 7 of the last 10.
The fact that NO TEAMS HAVE BID FOR MILLSAP indicate Millsap is not a star in
this league. In fact it is looking like OKC may not even make an offer either
for the same reason.Millsap is great to have IF we are only paying
5-6 million/yr maximum. Anymore and we would be overpaying.At the
end of the day he is an even shorter power forward than Boozer and we all
believe that Boozer is undersized.Millsap is a top tier backup/role
player. Take your Jazz goggles off and admit it. Paying him anywhere near the
$10 million that his uncle the agent is seeking is being shown/proven to be a
ridiculous sum.Paul survives in this league on effort and grit but
at the end of the day neither of those two make him any taller to play the
position he has the body for.Even if OKC make an offer I doubt it
will be in the 10 million per range. If they do they have more money than NBA
Jazz Smack Well you forgot about Detroit - Ben Wallace is 6'9 and he
plays center. Now for you to say he wasn't their best player. He was their
only player that season who was on an All NBA first second or third team. But
the fact was he value was more on the defensive side than on the offensive side.
Name the 6'10 foot power forward who was not know for their defensive that won
an NBA championship. I would say Gasol was the first. Staudemire, Nowitzki,
Bosh, Vin Baker, Webber. (I would add Okur, but he won a championship as a
back-up) You saying there is some line at the 6'9 that show success
is wrong. Brand has a higher standing reach than Nowitzki even though he is 3
there is a lot of talk about trading Boozer for Hamilton. Hamilton makes 11-12
million for several years. He would replace Brewer who would probably move to
SF. I suppose AK would back up Millsap at PF. CJ would back up Brewer. On balance that strengthens the SG position substantially but at a high price.
However, it weakens the PF (more important postion) in the Jazz approach. It essentially trades Hamilton for Harp and Korver in the long run while
weakening the PF position. It also does not help much on the cap issues. The Jazz should be able to get a cheaper solution to an SG who can
shoot. They will also need a better solution (not worse) at PF when Boozer
leaves. The Jazz rebounding would be weaker and the C, PF
combination would be weaker. Hamilton may help spread the floor but any decent
shooter at SG would do that. There has got to be a better deal than
Hamilton in terms of overall net effect on the team performance.The
Jazz need cheaper, talented emerging players not big names. The fans clamor for
big names but the Jazz need talented no names.
Someone saying it like it is in regards to Millsap. Jazz fans have fallen in
love with "Rudy," I mean Millsap, because of his hustle. The guy will always be
better coming off the bench, he cannot carry a team offensively like Boozer can.
And lets not get carried away with Millsap's defense. He's better than Boozer,
but he's not an elite defensive player, not even close. He's too undersized to
play consistently in the post, he will wear down like he did at the end of his
starting streak last year, and that was only 30 games.Lets hope that
the Jazz brass does not overextend and overpay for a guy better suited to come
off the bench.
point being if lazy boz and klinko worth what they are being payed. and i dont
read much about them not millie worth 20 mil. i dont care how much money they
spend. all of them are over payed. 200.000 should be a big pay day not 20 mil.
but if they are going to pay that rather the one packing his lunch going to work
got it. not the one smacking on his gum acting like a smart aleck and acting
like what a privilage it is to be abel to pay them millions and watch them.
When you have a hole in your defense as big as Booze, you cannot win on the road
consistently and you won't beat any good teams in a 7 game series. When you
staff a team with quintessesntial Jazz players, like Milsap, hustlers, hard
workers, hard nosed defenders, ball deflecters, and unselfish team players who
don't xare about personal statistics, you are a contender in every game. Milsap
is getting better. Booze will never get any better. I say trade Booze and sign
Milsap. Bring in a journeyman who can start a few games and split the minutes at
PF. The last thing I will pay to watch is a Jazz team with Boozer watching
opponents make layups. He hurts the team so much on defense that he could score
32 ppg and the Jazz would still lose.
Finally someone speaks with some sense regarding Millsap. Everyone complains
about Boozer missing so much time because of injuries, but they forget after
Millsap's first 30 games as a starter he got fatigued and worn down. That's not
even half of a season. He's a great role player but definitely not the face of
a franchise. Not yet at least.
Why don't some of you wise guys reread your posts?
PLease, Jazz, do NOT over pay and over value millsapThe jazz
management has a penchant for giving out big long term contracts to mediocre
talent,for over valuing and over paying talent that would only be,
at best, bench players on real championship team.Giving the big
money to the wrong players.maybe they should look at REAL
Championship teams and see where the big money goes to (and in this order):7 foot true dominant big men (and who will play defense),true star
shooting guards,true star small forwards,true star point guards,jazz have only 1 of 4, that is bad.and the reason they have
NEVER a won a championship.When was last ime a "undersized"
power forward lead a team to championship?Answer: NEVER!the only time PF under 6'9" and under did was when the league was shorter, and
7-footers were rare or nonesxistant and hence 6'8 or 6'9 was NOT undersized but
typicalUNDERSIZED PFS do NOT win championships!Malone
NObrand NObarkley NOlarry johnson NOboozer NOand the list goes on an onwhile the 6'10 and over list grows.
Let's talk about the Utes and the Cougars!! They are much more exciting to
watch than the overpaid Jazz players!
It takes more than just heart, hussle and grit. It takes additional talent and
it is not secondary. The Jazz have Millsap, Korver, Brewer, and Price who tend
to have more heart, hussle and grit than talent. The Jazz also have Boozer, and
CJ who are quite talented (could be more so) but could exhibit more hh&g. Okur
and AK are a blend. They both could use a little extra of both dimensions.However, the biggest problems tend to lie on the team level. As a team
the Jazz do not play good consistent defense except in the last 8 minutes of
most games and especially on the road. Is that a player problem or
a coaching problem? Before the draft the media played up how tough
potential prospects were. We drafted Maynor, a gifted 175 lb PG. Suton works
hard and plays D but his best attribute is his shot. The Jazz talk a
good line but they do not draft defense nor toughness. They draft offense and
hope they get some D. That has been a consistent pattern. As one
coach said, he would prefer a 20/10 player and then hope to get some D.
The Jazz are clearly not in a position to compete for a championship next
season. They are looking at having substantially the same team back next year as
this year. The Jazz may have a more focused Boozer because he knows he needs to
up his market value with a great year, ditto Memo and Korver - but it will not
be enough, especially given the other moves that have been made to improve top
tier teams. HOWEVER -- the Jazz are in a great position to make some
great trades and or sign great free agents. 1- D Will can attract
great talent. Who wouldn't want to play with him?2- Boozer, Memo, et
al = expiring contracts that can either be moved for young talent or let to
expire to free up cap space for signings3- AK's contract becomes an
expiring contract by this time next year. This will be unorthodox
for the Jazz to try to build around trades and free agent signings instead of
the draft - but ultimately could be a long term winner. Good luck
Miller and O'Conner, the next two years are make or break!
First off the Jazz can't finish 42-42. There is only 82 games in a year.
Secondly the Spurs didn't sign Richard Jefferson they traded for him, and
thirdly the Jazz need to make a major move. The trib has a good article about
the Jazz and the contentnous of just being good. It is time for the club to be
great. Millsap under 7 million good over let him go.
I disagree on this article, we made a mistake giving AK a very lucrative
contract the reason why the Jazz are suffering right now, but you cannot
conclude that it will also happen if we do it also to Millsap, AK and Millsap
have different personalities, the Jazz just take a big risk on AK and it happens
to anyone taking risk on their lives, taking risk sometimes favors you sometimes
it haunts you, I think the Jazz will just be more carefull in offering lucrative
contracts in the future
player20 are you telling me Boozer is not a better player than Milsap? No Boozer
the Jazz are a 42-42 team period!!!
3 points1)If i were Milsap I would be asking for 10 milloion just because
I can, if i get it great. We all market ourselves and try to get the most out of
our chosen form of making a living.2)We the fans are the enablers on this
craziness, why do people pay 75 for a jersey and 5 bucks for a beer and and and
etc.3)was Malone a great player or a good player durig his first 3 years.
Jerry is the one that can tell us the most by what he thinks the kid will turn
into, its obvious that boozer is not in the long term plans, can D Will turn him
into a machine and does he think he is the right guy to build a championship
team with. I seriously think Jerry wants a championship team built on heart,
hussle and grit as the first attributes and natural great talent as the
secondary quality. Malone stockton and horny had that kind of game, they worked
harder than any one else. Bottom line he stays because he can become.
hey sparky plug 24, booz was a second round pick too!! Millsap will give you a
double-double if the minutes are available. he has shown that the previous
season. i really don't know what everyone is complaining about, AK is making 16
mill a yr..trade him and i guarantee you could easily compensate for his
loss..we have to keep Millsap!!
Not rediculous. Louisiana Jazz Man-- Stating that we pay Kirilenko
16 mil, Boozer 12 mil, and therefore Milsap is worth around 10 mil is a straw
man's argument. That is the point of the whole article-- we are overpaying both
Kirilenko and Boozer, due to signing ridiculous contracts for mid-level players
to begin with, hence we shouldn't do the same thing again with Milsap.Blauch makes some compelling points. Would you rather have the player that
helps you win, or fills up the stat sheet? Other than Williams,
there isn't a superstar on the team, and we shouldn't be paying players like
they are superstars. We have a bunch of solid players, but signed long term
deals as if they were a Kobe, Tim Duncan, Wade, LeBron, etc... that's why we're
in the situation we are now.
2 time all star and olympic gold medal winner!!!! I quess all of these coaches
that picked Boozer to be a all star have no clue. People Milsap was a second
round pick for a reason!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let Milsap go, even for $5 Mil. With the team staying intact, we suck. It
makes no sense to spend a penny more for an 8th seed end of the season race.
We either compete and make trades like good teams have been the past
few days or just get out of the way, which is what Jazz management did, nothing.
I don't really know who sucks more, the players or management?
Someone shed some light for me.
I think Millsap is a good, hard player but when I hear people talk about how
Boozer being this very good player I just have to shake my head. I'm not sure
how Boozer is this Olympic or NBA All-Star caliber player. There have been so
many times when we've needed him very badly but he didn't play that well.
NameWhen the Jazz gave Okur a contract he was a back upBrentMillsap had the same post ability as Boozer had when he was
24. Jazz copWhere do you come with the Boozer helps the Jazz
win. Just because he socres points and rebounds - his defensive is so bad he
does not stop the opponents from scoringSorry Everyone, but the Jazz
need to trade Boozer and not resign Millsap
Trade Boozer for a starting 2 guard. With Milsap we would have him, AK, Okur
and the two young kids who can fill in at 4.
Keep Milsap only for under 7 mill/year....he is NOT worth over 9
million/year...Boozer isn't worth that let alone MIlsap. I think MIlsap should
be our starter, and we should trade Boozer for Hamilton...just what I hope jazz
does and maybe trade AK for nobody, just so we can dump his salary.Also does anyone know if the summer league games will be televised this
upcoming week? They're in ORlando, but I don't know if they're televised.
The problem with Booz is no defense. You need him to do a 20/10 JUST TO BREAK
EVEN, because he gives up more points than a loose pinball machine on D. With
Millsap you will not get that kind of offensive, but he is so much better a
defender you are better to have him over Booz. Also Booz's work ethic is a huge
issue. If Booz gets a hang-nail or something he could miss half the season or
more. The perfect case to me is trade Booz to OKC for a salary exception or
have OKC sign Millsap and trade him for Booz, so they have the free cash in 2010
and we avoid the salary luxury tax penalty.
What exactly were we missing when Millsap started in place of Boozer? Did
Millsap fail to rebound? Give me a break. Did he fail to score? I seem to
remember a lot of double - doubles. Did he fail to defend? No that was Boozer
who would watch others prance right past to him to the basket. Give me a Millsap
as a starter and trade Boozer to Detroit or back to Cleveland for a backup
Forward.Just a thought.
Millsap is a nice player at 6 million or less, anything more and he's overpayed.
He has heart but he's also about 6' 5" with out any post offense.
Millsap is not Boozer period!!!!! Jazz fans wake up and get over the hate for
You are actually not defending the Jazz in everything they do today, is there
hope? I actually agreed with the whole post...
when Millsap started for Boozer he averaged around 19 and 11. he will probably
be overpaid for his services next year but it will be a bargain after that
Actually, the Spurs signed Richard Jefferson, not Al Jefferson.
I love Milsap... but you cannot pay him more tha 6 mil... Trade Boozer for Tyson
Chandler or Rip Hamilton or with someone else to Golden St for Maggette and
Tureof. Or Kiralinko to Golden State.
You are right on, Rock.Millsap for 6th Man of the Year!
Even though boozer doesn't play defense, he's a better player than millsap, and
if boozer--despite his injury history--can't get a contract for more than 12
mill, I really don't think anyone will be paying millsap that much. It's easier
to get behind someone like millsap, as a fan, but when it comes to wins and
losses, you have to be able to score, and boozer can at least score, he's a far
better offensive player than millsap. If boozer would play defense, and be a
true leader, he'd be someone people would love, and the jazz would win more.
But as it is now, the jazz are going to win more will boozer than millsap, as
frustrating as it is to watch someone making 12 mill a year to play a game not
leave it all out on the floor. I know that boozer makes the jazz a better team
than millsap, i hate it, but it's true.If the jazz trade boozer for
richard hamilton, i wouldn't be dissapointed to see millsap starting. Then,
trade kirilenko and okur too.
Now Last Season. Millsap had a +/- of 266 when on the court while he
had a -49 when he was off the court. Now Boozer had a - 37 when he was on the
court and a +274 when he was not on the court. Yes Boozer was injured, but if
you take his first games his plus his plus minnus would be about +140 for the
entire season - about what he has done for 5 year. Meaning even if Boozer was
not injured last season, the Jazz would have outscored their opponents if Boozer
was sitting on the Bench or playing. Fans and Media love stats Boozer gets you
20 and 10, but he over the last 5 years has not helped the Jazz win games.
Boozer is also 27 meaning over the next 3 season his ppg are going to drop. It is Boozer contract that is killing the JazzMillsap is 24
years old; He is a better defensive player, his offfensive game will peak in the
next 3 years (His starting numbers last season was 16 points and 10 rebounds
over 31 games starting.The Jazz would be crazy not to offer Millsap
Boozer socre points and rebound, while AK scores less and rebounds less but
defends, passes, gets steels, alters shots (sometime blocks them) and moves
without the ball. +/- stats are only valuable over long periods of
time. During the last 5 years when we had AK and Boozer - AK total
combined Plus Minus is 833 points when on the court and -382 when he is off the
court, While Boozer is + 332 when on the court, but +119 when he is on the coury
- both less the than the teams total +/- of +451. That means over
the last 5 year when AK was on the court they outscored their opponets and won
games and when he was not on the court the Jazz are out scored and they lose,
but when boozer it makes no differnce if he was on or off the court. AK impact to the Jazz winning games over the last 5 year is much greater than
BoozerWhat sad is that While Boozer helps you score points and
rebounds, AK helps you win games. But everyone complains about AK salary and
no one ever complains about Boozer salary. WHY?
Why do the Jazz continue to settle for mediocrity? Look at the rest of the
teams the Jazz have to contend with: Lakers sign Ron Artest, Shaq goes to
Cleveland, Spurs get Al Jefferson. We are supposed to be happy that Boozer and
Okur resign, and are possibly going to overpay Millsap? Come on Jazz!
Prices* not places
Obviously it is worth $75 million, all you need to do is look around. People do
not just come up with prices, but instead the places make themselves through a
balance of the supply and demand curves. Take an intro to economics class. Basketball players generate hundreds of millions of dollars per year (not
including outside endorsements) and deserve a cut of what they produce. Anyway I am sure a family of 4 could make it to a Jazz game for about $90
dollars, if you are willing to sit in the nose bleeds. Maybe it is a little
price, but not credit card BREAKING as you call it.On Milsap: pay him
around 5 mil, if he gets an offer over 6 mil let him go. I love the guy, but he
does not have the greatest talent an is undersized; he hides his faults with his
hard work (which is a good thing really)
the Jazz would be making a huge mistake by giving milsap more than $8 million.
Boozer is more valuable than most jazz fans think. Even though his defense is
terrible, his presence on the court does a lot to spread the floor and helps put
points on the board. I think you have to spend the market rate to keep Boozer
next year and see get milsap for another year and see how he does.
Are you drinking the water from hurricane Katrina? The days of average players
make 10 to 15 mil are long gone! Reality is finally setting in, with management
like it has with the fans for a long time. In other words we are tired to death
of paying these stupid amounts of salary to these primma-donnas. Why should we
work hard and give it all away for a couple hours of entertainment? I will not
anymore, my family and our livlihood will come first, not supporting and bunch
of kids and their reach for financial independence. Sorry but I'm done. As for
Paul pay him 6-8mil, take it or leave it! End of story.
I hope the Jazz don't match a Millsap offer if it get's too big. Based on the
current market, the Jazz should sign him to a 3 year $15 million deal. That is
a huge salary increase for him, and if he proves that he should be a starter
and/or potential all-star after 3 years, then another pay raise could be in
order. Let's not pump out $10 million a year to someone who has a great work
ethic and hustle but has only proved thus far that he is a solid NBA role
player. The Jazz drafted him and have helped him become what he is. I hope the
Jazz can keep him, but in the end it's about winning a championship and if you
over pay Millsap, it could hurt in trying to bring in that missing piece that
gets the Jazz over the top.
he is average and we dont need him at all.
I hope everyone sits back and really reads what is being written. Look at the $
we are speaking of. We talk about millions as if it is your child allowance. For
a professional team to have a payroll of 70 to 75 million dollars is totally
rediculous. I have been a major sports fan for many of my 55 years but I am so
sick of money ruling the sports markets. For a basketball player who is 23 years
old to make 10 to 12 million dollars a year is totally rediculous, then the
owners , to make it even more appealing, make that guaranteed money. Play 1 year
and retire at age 25. Give me a break. Look at what Stock and Malone did to earn
their pay for all those years. Malone missed what 8 games in his "career". Lets
admit it folks, basketball is entertaining but not 75 millions dollars worth.
The owners have done this not only to themselves but to us fans. There needs to
be a salary cap on what a player can make so the fans can afford to take the
entire family to a "game" without having to use the company credit card.
millsap is not comparable to mo or klinko. i am hoping he signs with okc to
prove my point, he is the only one on the team who goes to work. screens rebound
pick hard roll hard. only way jazz could recoupe if he left if dufus plays,with
out millsap jazz are nothing. if you pay klinko 16 mil boz 12 mil and you dont
think millie worth 10 i wonder what game your watching you sure dont need to be
writing about it. go to la write about ariza. guess he is not worth 6 but artest
is?there are some stupid people in this world.
I enjoy watching the Jazz and like to see them win, but it is just a business.
I think the Jazz would be very unwise to give Millsap a contract so large that
they are committed to him as a starter for the next 5 years. He hasn't proven
he can be a full time starter, at a high level, so locking him into that
position with a big salary would not be good management. This is what he is
seeking, of course. If he can be had for a sixth man level salary--around 5-6
million starting, with raises--that makes sense, as he is proven at that level.
Higher than that and they have to let him walk. Fortunately, no one else is
going to give him much more than that either. He is too unproven, and his
upside looks too limited. I'm hoping he comes back as a super sixth man.
On becoming an All Star: it is not only based on how the player plays but on how
the coach use him. Would Boozer and Okur be All Stars had they stayed with Cavs
and Pistons respectively? Had Mo stayed with the Jazz will be be an AS? I know being an AS is different with leading a team to a championship
but the mechanics are similar.
disaster. If you lose a good player and replace them with a better one that is
not a disaster as long as you do not over pay the replacement.Millsap is a Mo Williams he is good enough to start for some teams (not
contenders). He is a great back PF. Neither he nor Boozer are capable of leading
the Jazz to a championship. Both are obsolete. The new phototype PF is longer,
more agile, defends his mand and provides help defense, can defend inside and
out and also put up good offensive numbers. The PG and PF are the 2
most important positions in Sloan's offense. The Jazz have to have a better and
complete PF. One who can both score and defend. The Jazz need to get
that PF this year or maybe next year and still stay under the salary cap and get
enough talent in the role players. This organization took a major
step forward when it did not blink and called the bluff of the opt outs. It should go forward from here and carefully make smart changes over time.I now have hope for the Jazz. Their management is getting smarter.