High school basketball: Collinsworth is state's top recruit


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    Jan. 13, 2010 9:44 p.m.

    Corbin Miller, currently a junior at Brighton, is probably the 2nd after him. Miller has offers from Utah, Stanford, Gonzaga, and Arizona State. He will be one to watch as well! The funny thing is, his family hates Univ. of Utah and so does Corbin Miller. So they can alreay forget getting him.

  • RE: Gretzky
    Nov. 10, 2009 11:01 a.m.

    Just so you know Kansas is one of the top 5 basketball schools in the country. I don't understand why it matters if you don't have anything to write home about, and I don't think that's true either. Kansas is a school centered around basketball, he would experience something that's so rare to athletes. Not only that but Bill Self is one of the elite coaches in college basketball as well. I also don't understand why you're trying to tell a kid that you probably don't even know where to go to school. He'll make the right choice for himself.

  • Jen Hamson
    Aug. 6, 2009 6:25 p.m.

    Not to rain on the parade, but has anyone heard about Jan Hamson and her recruiting schools. Anything DNEWS?

  • Dear Kyle
    Aug. 6, 2009 6:21 p.m.

    Although it would be nice to be in the comforts of home and Utah, you should really try to get to other schools that will best suit your needs to grow. The bigger schools will give you more experience and competition. You will be recognized for possible overseas basketball as well.

    You have great talent, and should pursue getting better if this is a career you wish to pursue. Good luck.

  • ???
    July 27, 2009 5:43 p.m.

    A basketball player who wants to be a guard yet cant shoot a 20 footer?

    Must be 6'7" and athletic, which you cant teach...

  • blah blah !!
    July 19, 2009 11:25 p.m.

    if you are good enough to make a nba roster it does not matter where you play they will find you.. when utah becomes more diverse is when real d1 programs will respect the talent here & actually recruit some of these guys.

  • yes, he is
    July 15, 2009 4:35 p.m.

    I saw him measured for the 08-09 season and he was a smidge over 6'6". That was in October of 08. He was measured with his shoes on. Give his shoes an inch and that would have made him 6'5" and quarter in his socks. That was almost 10 months ago.

  • he's not 6-7
    July 9, 2009 8:46 a.m.

    I know him personally as well. and he and his family are amused by this board. he probably will be though, as he is continuing to grow from what im told.

  • re: 6'7
    July 8, 2009 4:18 p.m.

    No he actually is 6'7. I know him personally. He is the real deal

  • re: re top prospect
    July 8, 2009 12:33 p.m.

    Your ability to rate players stinks. He's 6'7 and I think Kyle could end up taller at 6'9 or 6'10. For a player his size he handles the ball well. He shoots well. Most guys in college basketball can't shoot period but he shoots well and very well for his size. He does probably need to bulk up. I think he has good defensive fundamentals as does all of Craig Drury's players but he could improve there. He might need to develop more of a post game. But a player of his size, he is quick, he passes and shoots well and is capable of handling the ball. He is also a winner. He's started for three years and his teams have won two titles and placed second once. He was a key cog on those teams and with one year to go, his record as a player if Provo competes or wins a title would be hard pressed to be duplicated. I think anyone would be lucky to get him as a player. I hope he either ventures out of state or perhaps goes to USU or BYU.

  • re:top prospect
    July 8, 2009 8:17 a.m.

    Positive: heigth

    Negative: shooting range
    ball handling
    defending smaller guard

    Good Junior College Player

  • Enthusiast
    July 7, 2009 7:44 p.m.

    This kid is good. Way better than tyler haws, cj wilcox, and even his brother. people keep saying that if he goes somewhere else he will ride the bench, but not at in state schools. BYU and UTAH are good programs if he can start there, he can start at most pac 10, big 12, and big 10 schools. He is going to be good no matter where he goes. I went to west and saw provo lose in the state championship, he was a class act even in a loss. He is something special. just wait.

  • USU
    July 7, 2009 11:43 a.m.

    RE: Re: HUH? | 6:09 p.m. July 6, 2009

    Keep living off that ONE NCAA tourney win. I guess Weber St with 2 tournament wins has more than you in the last 30 years. They must be a better program.

  • Re: HUH?
    July 6, 2009 6:09 p.m.

    Have you ever heard of a conference tournament...? USU has won thiers twice in the last three years, maybe as a BYU fan you should concentrate a little more on your Mountain Worste tourny because we've all seen your efforts in the NCAA tourney and it = pathetic.

  • HUH
    July 6, 2009 11:15 a.m.

    Re: Come on Aggie Fan | 9:42 a.m. July 1, 2009

    You stated your wins over the last 3 years. HOW MANY TOURNAMENT WINS DOES USU HAVE the last 3 years? I am counting NIT and NCAA. Get out of the campus steam room and clear your head....that is why you should not go to a State school for your education. Let me help you out. The answer = 0

    By the way.... How many tournament wins does Utah State have under the great Beef Stew? NCAA and NIT combined =1. WOW..... Oh.... one more question Aggie fan.... How many tournament wins does Stew have in his 23 years as a head coach.....drum roll please........ YEP ... you guessed it. "1"

  • 6-7?
    July 6, 2009 8:31 a.m.

    And now someone has him listed at 6-7? wow, by the thime this board is finished, this kid will have grown to 7 feet and will be a real catch. Have seen him in person many times. Terrific player. very good skills. Similar to Haws. but about the same size, 6-4 1/2 maybe. He is not 6-6 or 6-7 as this board claims.

  • Uncle Reality
    July 5, 2009 4:25 p.m.

    Of course this kid is not going to BYU. Just remember, he is 17 years old and he has never witnessed a BYU team win in the first round of the NCAA Tournament. He would have to be 20 years old to witness a BYU win in the Tournament.

  • BYU is just competative..and
    July 5, 2009 4:48 a.m.

    .. nothing more. Can we review the ranking list on recruits. yBu manages to trick these kids into thinking that the church doesn't exist on Utah State or the U. Most of the players they get are between 85-95 on the talent ranking list. Why can't they win their own conference tournament .. or not get blown out by texas A&M by 10+ points 2 years in a row.
    I'm sorry your Coach has cancer, I work as a medical professional & understand what he is going through... come on Ybu fans you have to be realistic here. Come NCAA tournament time .. Come conference tournament ... well how do you put it.
    You loose. Its that simple.

    Btw .. hhmm an interesting note another Provo high graduate .. Tai Wesley plays for USU. ooohh ouch .. what happened on that one. His brother played for Ybu didn't he? & an ALL Wac/MWC player?

    When you guys hire the right coach .. like minded coach .. aka .. Bronco Mendenhall your program will not just recruit these top Mormon athlete's but you'll win.
    btw .. Bronco spoke at our institute before recruiting Riley Nelson while on his mission. hhhmmm Ethical? 8^S ?

  • Utah State?
    July 3, 2009 9:02 a.m.

    They are not even on his list currently - trust me - so get over it aggie fans. No chance!

  • Anonymous
    July 2, 2009 7:25 p.m.

    Collinsworth is the real did. A week ago. He went to the BYU's Elite Camp. I've been around this game for more than twenty ears. Kyle was better than 90% of BYU's roster right now.

  • schooled
    July 2, 2009 3:07 p.m.

    Here is the real problem...he plays at Provo High, he is limited on the type of ball they play...his skills are good enough for Provo and 4A but he himself says he needs to improve on his ball handling and his outside shot...lets just say quickness would improve all those...because as a guard at 6' 7" he does not have three of the four traits you need...go some where where you really play point if that is what you want to learn to do and be able to shoot when you are open not in a Provo High offense.

  • USU all the way
    July 1, 2009 9:05 p.m.

    if he gets the chance to watch the cougs get rocked in the Spectrum next year it might just be all he needs baby!

    Go Aggies!

  • Collinsworth
    July 1, 2009 9:51 a.m.

    Is good. No one will argue that. But he plays in Utah, hardly known for its athleticism. He did not do much out at the NBA Camp besides pass. He has a good first step and can get to the rim here, but not on a national stage against athletes that are on a higher level athletically. He's not going to Utah or USU, you saw that his list was down to five. As someone said above, BYU has done a great job stealing local recruits and turning them into great players: Jackson Emery, Garner Meads, Charles Abuo, Tyler Haws. Collinsworth will end up at BYU mark my words. BYU has the guys to be competitive for years to come.

  • Re: Come on Aggie Fan
    July 1, 2009 9:42 a.m.

    I must have counted many of our tournament wins but a BYU fan wouldn't know anything about that I guess...

  • Hey Kid if you actually read ..
    July 1, 2009 1:47 a.m.

    .. these comments most of them are ridiculous. Right away I won't waist your time with this instate babble. If you want to go pro and actually improve on your skills you'll rank the coaches from the state this way.
    1. Stew Morrill - best development wise + opportunity
    2. Coach Boylan - NBA fmr coach
    3. Randy Rhae - (hey the Allred kid played in cleveland with LeBron - nothing the Y can brag about)
    3. Coach Rose - best way to flop

    If I were able to give a little common sense advice, you will have a better chance by going to a big program out of state. By the way out of Utah can be a lot of fun .. and most people do respect your religion and values. There are LDS girls there.
    if it were me .. look at these out of state schools the most

    tier 1

    1 Jim Boeheim
    2 Mike kzrycheski (sp?)
    3 Roy williams

    tier 2

    1 Arizona's new coach
    2 Jim Calhoun
    3 Tom Izzo

    Teir 3

    1 Calipari - Kentucky
    2 Bill self
    3 U of Pitt

    After that you are probably waisting your time if you want to go to the NBA.

  • Michael Jordan
    July 1, 2009 12:56 a.m.

    would have made a name for himself no matter what school he would have gone to. If your talent level is high enough there's not a wrong choice. He was going to stand out no matter what.

  • Anonymous
    July 1, 2009 12:24 a.m.

    ohh..this is so important...go on a mission and FIZZLE!

  • USU
    June 30, 2009 10:25 p.m.

    Why so much hate for USU...? BYU always gets it's man- what are you fans so worried about? USU only gets the guys BYU happens to "overlook"... Se you next year in the Spectrum! Finally!

  • Top prospect?
    June 30, 2009 9:13 p.m.

    Hope he's not overated like his brother and only gets the hype for being from provo. I wanna see the kid do good, not get schooled by better players throughout the region. Hope he's way better than his brother ever was, or will be

  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2009 9:07 p.m.

    There are a lot of D1 schools in Utah doing great. I would stay in Utah this will make him happier in the end. I have seen him play in Vegas for Utah Pump-N-Run and he is a great player. Who ever he plays for will be lucky!

  • PRC
    June 30, 2009 6:31 p.m.

    Collinsworth is AWSOME!!! Needs more Muscle but has a sweet overall game. Good Luck Chris. Hope to see you in A BYU uniform, but will support you whatever you deside.

  • RE: Make a name for yourself
    June 30, 2009 5:33 p.m.

    So your saying Michael Jordan would have been better off at BYU, he could have made a name for himself. What an idiot Jordan was for going to North Carloina. Kyle I hope your smart enough to not believe a word this guy is saying. Go to BYU if you feel that's your calling and if you want to play alongside your brother. But don't expect to be winning any National Champiohips, and he is right about this, BYU truely isn't expected to win year after year.

  • Come on AGGIE FAN
    June 30, 2009 5:15 p.m.

    Don't use fuzzy UTE math.

    RE: Re: Cougar Blue Blood | 11:32 a.m. June 30, 2009

    "You mean USU's 81-27 record over the last three years....? That is pretty impressive- You're right! Thanks for pointing that out!!"

    You must have spent too much time in the campus steam room....

    USU is 77-28 over the last 3 years
    BYU is 77-24 over the last 3 years

    oh... by the way, BYU has played better competition and been in 3 straight NCAA tournaments. USU only 1 during that time.

  • Utah State?
    June 30, 2009 5:08 p.m.

    Utah State still exists? Just like everybody else, I forgot about them after we played them once last season. Thanks for reminding us!

  • Make a name for yourself
    June 30, 2009 4:38 p.m.

    To be the best, you got to beat the best, not play for the best. Do it with a school not considered to be the best, and even better (The MWC has plenty of games against so-called big conference teams, anyway). That's what March madness is all about. Underdog teams get to prove themselves. The only place for them to go is up. It's the kind of noise a program like BYU is poised to make in the tournament. They're going to make a run. That's inevitable! The only question is who will be on the court enjoying that moment. It will turn more heads than a big name school who it is expected of, year after year.

    Seriously! What's the point in going and playing for a big name school when you want to make a name for yourself? If you want to prove a point, then take a team from mediocrity up to the next level. That's a real challenge and a positive result makes a huge statement. It says a whole lot more about you. Whereas, piggybacking off someone else's success just perpetuates some program's name and status.

  • springville
    June 30, 2009 4:10 p.m.

    are this the collinsworth kid from springville? i know those guys. great family.

  • 6-6
    June 30, 2009 4:02 p.m.

    Did collinsworth grow 2.5 inches since the state tournament? He may still be growing, but he is not 6-6, just like Davies is not a true 6-8. Davies was at best 6-6 1/2 ...in shoes. He is in my moms ward, and when we viseted there recently, our son is an honest 6-6 and almost exactly the same height as Davies. the measuring stick in provo's gym must have slipped down an inch or two... again. Good luck growing into your expectations of the recruiting world Kyle. have seen you play, and you are a heck of a player/competitor.

  • Here We Go Again
    June 30, 2009 3:55 p.m.

    I hope one of the things he learned over the summer is that Utah High School Basketball in weak.

    Do yourself a favor kid. If Stanford makes an offer, take it. Its a gift. Get good grades and have a great professional career in something other than basketball. You've seen the NCAA commercials. Now go live it!

  • duh
    June 30, 2009 3:52 p.m.

    uh, Daniel Deane is playing for Oregon and doing great, may want to research before making stupid comments...

  • kansas
    July 27, 2009 7:53 p.m.

    Kyle is the best player in the state no doubt! He is tearing up tournaments all around the nation.. this last week he average 24 points a game against the best competition around the nation at the las vegas tournament! He is a outstanding player... Kansas wants him bad!

  • re: BYBlue
    June 30, 2009 3:11 p.m.

    I guess I should give you a break that you (presumably) didn't know what Gary Wilkinson, formerly of USU, was doing the night of the draft.

    He spoke at 2 youth firesides that night. BYU doesn't have the corner on the market of good LDS athletes who are also good people.

    Go Aggies

  • BYBlue
    June 30, 2009 2:48 p.m.

    For a kid who values a mission and speaking to special kids at firesides more than the lure of a potential NBA career and the temptations all that money would bring, it HAS to be BYU. You will be surrounded by people of similar values and culture, and you won't ever really have to risk leaving the comfort of Utah Valley. Why look anywhere else?

  • Re: Cache Valley
    June 30, 2009 2:43 p.m.

    Collinsworth is 6-foot-6 and about 190 pounds.

  • ETB
    June 30, 2009 2:42 p.m.

    byu finally has a decent enough coach to make them a legitamate option.

  • coot20
    June 30, 2009 2:26 p.m.

    Nice try unbiased opinion...ute...utah is not even being considered in this kids top 5. They are way down the list. Can you imagine playing for a coach that is yelling(maybe coaching)on every posession. Boylens sideline intensity is off the charts...from what I hear it is not a fun place to play. Sign with BYU, play with your bro, Haws, Fredette. Emory, etc. Have some fun and get the BEST overall education available, bar NONE

  • re: to BOb2
    June 30, 2009 2:00 p.m.

    Some others to consider only by their potential and high school accomplishments: Jeff Judkins, Britton Johnsen, Kurt Miller, Shawn Bradley, Travis Knight, Ryan Cuff, and "possibly" Tyler Hawes.

  • The Future
    June 30, 2009 1:42 p.m.

    A big part of his decision should be who the coach will be. I wish Coach Rose all the best, but his health situation has to reduce the chances of this kid committing to BYU. Pancreatic cancer has a very low survival rate. Not knowing who the coach will be when he plays there has to be a huge minus.

    Again, I wish Coach Rose a full recovery, but it will certainly influence his decision.

  • cone
    June 30, 2009 1:31 p.m.

    I saw him play in the state championship game. On that day he was not the best point guard playing. The sophmore point guard from West High impacted the game more with his speed and composure. Collingsworth was guarded by players who will not play D1 ball but were able to contain him because of their quickness and some size(6'4" Cris Barnes). I think he experienced the same at the camps he's attended. He is one of the best in the state but even he acknowledges that D1 ballers will be quicker with size. He could be good but he also may be average at that level.

  • AZ Dave
    June 30, 2009 1:17 p.m.

    Dude Run as fast as you can away from Utah. There is a great big world out there the starts at the border. Or stay and never win a big dance game and be fodder in this paper

  • Come on!
    June 30, 2009 1:11 p.m.

    The Murdock kid from Wasatch should be the highest recruited kid in the nation!

  • Re: usu ?
    June 30, 2009 1:10 p.m.

    You may be correct about your overseas comment, but if you are, it will be because Jaycee comes back to play in the NBA.

    So there.

    Go Aggies

  • Flee
    June 30, 2009 1:08 p.m.

    Be like the other recent studs from Utah. Havili USC, Xavier UCLA, Martinez USC, Cottonwood RB to Cal, Lloyd Stanford, heck even Badger to ND, Wilcox Washington, etc etc etc. It is a big, exciting world. Take your game to a bigger stage. Everyone outside of Utah (if you announced to stay here) would immediately follow it up with...WHY? People will argue that the level of play is just as good here. But in all reality, it isnt close. Top to bottom the Mtn West is a mediocre. Wy, Colo St, etc. Stanford is an awesome place young man. Pac 10 is where I would go, like the others before you did. You are bigger than Utah, for better or worse.

  • Cache Valley
    June 30, 2009 12:47 p.m.

    To Des.New's Jim Rayburn... What is his height/weight? What position does he play? You might want to include such basic info in future articles.

  • RE: Big blue Puma
    June 30, 2009 12:35 p.m.

    Kiki did come close to winning a national title at UCLA, they lost in the championship game to Louisville by 5. That is not what I would classify as "nowhere close to a National Championship" as you stated. Please check your facts. I love BYU, but I am also realistic, Kiki was also the 11th pick in the 1980 draft, that is pretty good, I think other than winning a NC at UCLA he basically accomplished his goals, so you can't say he made the wrong choice for him, maybe for BYU, but not for him.

  • RE:Big Blue Puma
    June 30, 2009 11:50 a.m.

    Please any one with a brain would take UCLA over BYU if they were looking to win a NCAA championship.
    So it didn't work out for Kiki, he still made the logical choice. How do you choose a school that has never been in the finals to a school that has one 10 titles if your trying to win one. very poor comparison!.

  • to BOb2
    June 30, 2009 11:45 a.m.

    Perhaps I should clarify - I meant Utah high school products - Wayne Hightower was from Philadelphia and Vern Gardner played high school basketball in Wyoming. I would have to say that for Utah high school players you would have to go with Fred Roberts, Tom Chambers, Danny Vranes, Devin Durrant, Shawn Bradley, Josh Grant...that caliber of player...Collinsworth would be in that mix. Soto and Runia were good, very good but Collinsworth could be better - he has more potential upsides than either of those two. I would compare him, at this point, to Devin Durrant. Collinsworth is a different type of player than Durrant. Durrant was a better shooter but Collinsworth is quicker and a better athlete.

  • Go big time
    June 30, 2009 11:43 a.m.

    If it doesn't work out you can always come back to Utah.. You only have this opportunity once in your life why not go to the best you can. If you had a chance to go to Yale Law school or Stanford Medical school would you even think twice. Why not do the same with athletics. don't let anyone on here that has never done anything athleticly tell you to settle. Utah, BYU and Utah State do have nice programs.. If your looking for nice go for it, if your looking for greatness get out of here. Other Utah athletes have done it, they have won NCAA titles at schools outside of Utah, they have gone pro and they have done it all. Don't let people tell you, you wont play if you go anywhere else. That's a losers way of looking at your ability.
    Great athletes believe they can play anywhere.

  • usu ?
    June 30, 2009 11:34 a.m.

    Hansen has twice the overseas career that Jaycee Carroll will ever have.

  • Re: Cougar Blue Blood
    June 30, 2009 11:32 a.m.

    You mean USU's 81-27 record over the last three years....? That is pretty impressive- You're right! Thanks for pointing that out!!

  • BYU family
    June 30, 2009 11:03 a.m.

    Best of luck to the Collinsworth brothers. Chris is an exciting big with great potential at BYU. Naturally Kyle would fit in perfectly with the BYU system. It's a great program, with great coaches, great tradition, great standards, and great opportunities. It's a great college family. Certainly, we BYU fans hope to see the Collinsworth connection at BYU. Anyone who doesn't think that would be awesome, is short-sighted by their rivalry against BYU--plain and simple.

    But Kyle would be a welcome contributer to many programs. So it doesn't have anything to do with being from Utah County, or which school in Utah or somewhere else gives the best chance for the NBA. If a style of play fits then a college player of NBA quality will get noticed wherever they play.

    College is what you make it, wherever you go. Schools tout many varied things. But coming from someone who grew up all over the United States, look no further than your own backyard for the best all around college experience opportunity available; all things considered, BYU truly offers more to develop a well-rounded individual than any other place I know.

  • big blue puma
    June 30, 2009 10:50 a.m.

    I remember when Kiki Vandeweigh wanted to win a natonal championship, so he chose UCLA over BYU. He had a stellar career, but got nowhere close to a NC. Meanwhile, BYU went to the sweet 16 without Kiki. I believe that, had he chosen to go to BYU, he would have had a real shot at his NC.

    The talent level at BYU is rising fast, and they have an outstanding couching staff that developes guards very well. They will win more of the big games in the future. IMO, kyle would be well served to attend BYU. He will be part of some great things, and may get some "Ainge-esque" attention from the basketball world. I think he may be that good.

  • Re:Gretsky
    June 30, 2009 10:49 a.m.

    Did you just say Kansas was not much to write home about? I'm sorry did you forget that they won the National Title two years ago and are they consensus preseason #1 this upcoming year? I know Bill Self won't scoff at a two-year mission. Brady Morningstar (supposedly) is a member and served a mission and he is one of Bill Self's highest regarded players. If Kansas really wants Kyle, and BYU still gets him, that will be a recruiting victory for the record books.

  • Idaho State
    June 30, 2009 10:37 a.m.

    He is a first cousin to Logan Kinghorn who played at ISU. His Mother is from Rigby, Idaho. Maybe he will surprise everyone and end up in Pocatello????

  • BOb 2
    June 30, 2009 10:23 a.m.

    but having seen him play I can honestly say that he may be one of the five best players ever to come out of Utah. anon

    Wow, how did he compare to Vern Gardner and Wayne Hightower? Was he as good in the clutch as Scott Runia or Jimmy Soto? Bruce Hardy ended up playing f football but he was an excellent forward who always delivered when you got him the basketball down low. I mean, you've seen all these guys and many more I'm sure. Please give us comparisons....

  • Cougar Blue Blood
    June 30, 2009 10:20 a.m.

    Thanks, Aggies and Utes, for the input, but I don't think you've taken a look at the win-loss record among BYU, USU, and Utah over the past three years.

    As for which school is best for getting to the NBA, frankly, the NBA wants good players and doesn't care what school they come from.

    Realistically, what are the chances that this kid will make it in the NBA anyway. He needs to make his decision based solely on his college career--where he can get the most playing time, have the ball in his hands, get a good education, and let his family enjoy his games. (There are wonderful LDS women to marry and good Institute programs at all the schools he's mentioned, so that shouldn't be a factor.)

  • Utah State
    June 30, 2009 10:10 a.m.

    Utah State offers one the best and most stable coaching staffs in the country, the best (hands down) college basketball environment, and the ability to make an immediate impact. Choose USU...you will love it! Go Aggies!

  • Better chance?
    June 30, 2009 9:48 a.m.

    A better chance of going pro at BYU? I don't think his school selection has any weight on making it to the NBA. Besides the last Cougar to go pro was a major bust. The best NBA player to come out of BYU was Danny Ainge and that's practically ancient history much like BYU's national title. If he is NBA calliber talent, he'll find his way to the NBA regardless of the team he plays on.

  • anonymous
    June 30, 2009 9:29 a.m.

    I would normally say that he should stay around here and get some playing time early on but having seen him play I can honestly say that he may be one of the five best players ever to come out of Utah. If he can learn to hit a fairly consistent (35-45%) 20 footer he would be very much a five star recruit. Right now he is limited to playing the 1 because he doesn't shoot well enough to play the 2 and he is not physical enough to play the 3 in college. If he gets that 20 foot jumper down pat he would be an awesome 1 because he is so fast to the hoop once he makes his move - that first step is quick and he is gone. He sees the floor really well and his instincts are great. Get that 20-22 footer down and go to Stanford young man. What program wouldn't want a legit 6-7 point who can see floor and shoot the lights out?

  • re: anonymous
    June 30, 2009 8:47 a.m.

    I agree. Remember Daniel Deane, Chris Burgess, etc? No one does. Fact of the matter is that you can go to a national program and ride the pine or go to your backyard program and be a star while fulfilling four years of basketball in which you play. He says he wants the ball in his hands? How will that happen at a national program immediately? I would love to see him succeed out of state, but the numbers aren't in his favor. BYU has done a great job stealing local recruits and winning ballgames with them.

  • Higher Level
    June 30, 2009 8:47 a.m.

    Apparently he has learned a lot from playing against top competition this summer. He may want to continue to play against the very best in college - and that would mean trying his hand outside of the MWC. I love the MWC. But if you are one of the top players you may want to play against the best. It's why kids go to USC even though they know there are 3 other all-americans at their position. It worked will for kids like Havili. But it is only one of the factors that he has to take into consideration. I hear a lot about singles wards and institute programs at BCS schools and some (like ASU and UCLA) do have strong one's. But if a big part of a kid's future decision is finding and marrying an LDS girl then there really is no substitute for playing at BYU or Utah or even USU. But if he really wants a shot at the NBA and to play against the very best then the girls may have to wait. He can always come home to Provo for the summer and have the best of both worlds.

  • Kyle...
    June 30, 2009 8:47 a.m.

    Before you make up your mind, come to the BYU vs USU game in the Spectrum. USU is the one of best college basketball atmospheres in the country! You would not regret going to USU, I promise you!

  • Aggie
    June 30, 2009 8:33 a.m.

    If the kid wants to go the NBA he'd pick Utah State and let Stew coach him. Not only would he be playing for the best basketball program in the State but Stew has proven his mettle as a teacher by taken unheralded recruits to levels that no other school thought they would reach.

    Of course I expect him to stick to YBU and go nowhere like Cummard and the red headed kid who failed miserably in Italy while Jaycee tore the league up.

    I know Stew doesn't have any NBA'rs but he hasn't had any big time recruits either. I know that's not on Collinston's radar though.

  • options
    June 30, 2009 8:17 a.m.

    I too would be shocked to see a kid from Utah county spread wings and fly. Look for him as a Cougar next year.

    But, Chris. Stanford has the best campus in the country. Kansas has the best or 2nd best game atmosphere in all of basketball. Charlottesville is an absolutely beautiful city.

    Each place on your list has a good LDS community and great singles wards. Don't let BYU fool you into believing that the church only exists in Provo. You may be meant for bigger things than MWC competition.

  • Gordon
    June 30, 2009 8:05 a.m.

    Collinsworth will do the same thing that 99% all Utah County LDS kids do who are good enough to play D1. He'll let the big programs wine and dine him, then commit to BYU. Then make a public statement saying that BYU was always where he wanted to play. It gets old after a while.

  • STANFORD-and the little people
    June 30, 2009 7:55 a.m.

    If the kid has the brain power to be recruited by Stanford, next year plan on contacting him by phone @ area code 650 or my written correspondance at zip code 94305...no contest!

  • BYU
    June 30, 2009 7:27 a.m.

    He'll end up at BYU. It is extremely rare for a recruit that has grown up in Utah County to go anywhere else but BYU. It has been ingrained in his mind from a very young age. If I was the other schools, I wouldn't waste the time and travel expenses to court this kid when the outcome is all but certain.

  • Anonymous
    June 30, 2009 7:20 a.m.

    This is an interesting situation. A good player, who can choose BYU, then play and be a star, or go to a big name school and ride the bench. Think Bret Vroman. The former gives a player the chance to develop, the latter gives the player the opportunity to be used by the school with little in return athletically.

  • Unbiased view
    June 30, 2009 7:13 a.m.

    Not living in Utah, I would recommend that this kid, if he stays in state attend Utah. He has a better chance of turning pro if he attend's Utah rather than BYU (good team for team players who are not as athletically gifted) or Utah State (same reason as above). Boylen seems to be building a solid team w/some really athletic kids coming in. If he brings the Michigan State mentality and athleticism, they will be tops in their conference. Either way, go where your dreams will take you...meaning if Kansas is where you dream of playing...go and play...remember though, Kansas will have 2 or 3 of your type players...Do not attend a school due to pressure from friends/family...my 2 cents.

  • Gretkzy
    June 29, 2009 10:38 p.m.

    sounds like a solid kid. will all these other schools back off b/c of the mission like they do in football? stanford has been willing to deal with missions in the past but they have a new staff. you would think with tyler haws, chris c and a few others BYU might have an edge but you never know. good luck young man. ASU is not a bad choice due to the LDS presence. Virginia and Kansas, not so much. Virginia is a nice area but....too far away for parents to see you play. Kansas is kansas. not much to write home about. now if Kentucky was calling, different story. same with Duke as they have the best basketball coach in the world in coach K.