where were your players and who was in charge? that's what i thought ...everyone
got one, an armpit and an excuse...now what about this family value image that
you guys been taking a heavy hit with some of your most conservative rhetorical
speakers ...almost like the little group of watergates going on.
I'm a Left Coast Liberal. I've heard Madoff was in fact, a democrat. He give
large contributions to the Democratic Party. I don't want to be like a
conservative liar. Liberals do have to stand for something because conservatives
right here in utah concerning the utah navajo trust fund 150 million....just
read the 1984 state treasurer audit...gives a clear picture of how the artifact
and grave robbery correlates with what has happened in the past..all things are
related. It is about stewarship and who is reponsible. to give credence by the
addage that "everybody is doing it" defies the lesson which i recall from my
church counselor when he use to say in seminary..."remember there is a
difference between picking your nose and tearing it all apart"
They should have just rounded it off to 200 years. Not like he is going to
serve the entire term anyway. I know, they should keep his corpse locked up
until his 150 years is up, then release it to his grandchildren at the end of
Hate to break to you liberals, but Madoff was one of yours, liberals in charge
of your money, equals thief.How California working for you democrats?
I'm glad to see Madoff got a stiff penalty. What he did was absolutely
deplorable.... but can we please silence the "victims" trying to pin blame on
anyone but themselves. They need to acknowledge the role their own greed and
poor decision-making played in this drama. Not trying to understand how someone
provides a "guaranteed" return, I think you're asking for it....
Bernie, why the long face?
It's good to know this crook is going to spend the rest of his life in jail. I
hope that the family is watched VERY carefully over the next 20 years to see how
much of the ill gotten gains will surface in their hands. Money is hidden and
will support his family. It's a scam to believe that his family was unaware and
not profiting from this crime. Madoff is worse than the worse murderer and
cocaine dealer. He damaged THOUSANDS of people. How many suicides is he
directly responsible for. No more free air for Madoff!
Very hard to believe his sons did not know about this... Weren't they executives
in his firm?? Madoff could not have pulled this off by himself. No
way.. I hope the Feds nail the remainder of the crooked clan and
I think Ruth Madoff and their sons were aware of what was going on. How can one
work for an investment company where no investments are being made and not have
a clue about it. Why does she get 2.5 million. She needs to be in a small
apartment with a meager budget for food, Why arent't the family members who
were key employees being charged also.
Madoff has been illegally living off the citizenry for the last 30 years.
What's the difference now? Three squares, a TV and security round the clock.
Some punishment. Again, living off the citizenry. And wifey makes off with a
2.5m finder's fee. Nice. And the court is so full of itself that it thinks it
will dissuade others? Right. Crooks are crooks and they will always be. Every
single dime of assets should be siezed and returned. Latest 'investors' first.
Why is the state paying for this man's care and keep for the rest of his life?
Just put him out on the street, take away everything he's accumulated through
his ruse. Leave him the shirt on his back and give him an empty can, assign him
a stoop to sit on.Let him live on the charity of those he's cheated.
What did he do exactly?
I don't understand the big deal with this whole Madoff scam. He's just a side
effect of a completely unregulated free marketplace watched over by George W.
Bush and the Republican controlled Congress.Greed will always exist,
especially in a Captilist environment. And when that Greed is unregulated, this
is the result.Nothing too surprising.
Where is the rest of the crooks that were involved in this? If you think one guy
pulled this off you're crazy! There were a bunch of them. Bernie is taking the
"..unregulated free marketplace watched over by George W. Bush and the
Republican controlled Congress."Hardly, Mr. Madoff has been in business
since 1960, through a few demo's administrations as well.
This is what happens when you let the nosy money-lenders in power! We were
warned about this in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Instead of prison, they should let Madoff become a Congressman! He
could then join with some other great crooks - taking honest people's money -
living like royalty - and spending like there's no tomorrow!!! Also
no prison time or lengthy investigations when you're through - just a FAT
Congressional pension to look forward to! What a SWEET deal!
... kidding me Dan King, who cares if he's a Dem or a Repub? He is scum of the
earth and if somehow vigilante justice could be pulled off against him and his
entire family and business associates, it would be well deserved.Most people is general are getting pretty sick of the conservative -VS-
liberal take on everything. If that's the way you think, then you are what's
wrong with America. And by the way, California has been and currently is still
being run by a Republican governor, that's how that's working for us.
NO more yacht clubs, servants, limos, and ironed BVD's.Say goodbye to
Italian marble, $100 bath towels, and milled French soap.You get a 10' x
12' cel, and a stainless steel toilet with no door. Life as you knew it is a
distant memory.What the heck were you thinking? Doesn't EVERY Ponzi
schemer get nailed?You better hope they don't give you a "roomie" in
Yeah, or maybe that had nothing to do with it.Does EVERY situation have to
be aligned with some sort of BOM scripture?Joe
Too bad we do not have the harsh laws that China does for white collar crime
since Madoff would have been certainly executed by now.I would like
Madoff to get quartered as a form of execution like the Spaniards did during the
Does anyone remember the prison conditions for Al Capone? Do you think prison
will be prison for someone with as much influence and money as Bernard Madoff?
Think again. Madoff won't be free to come and go, but his life will still be
one of luxury compared to so many others. As soon as the dust settles, his
attorneys will be going for appeals and this man won't end up serving a full
sentence. I don't understand why he ended up with a such a harsh sentence
though. I mean, really. He's a thief. He stole a LOT of money from a LOT of
people, but he didn't kill anyone. Murderers get sentences of 10 years
sometimes. And like a lot of others have stated here - he didn't do this all by
Madoff.....150 Yrs is a long time....couldn't have happened to a nicer
May you live a long and miserable life with your fellow cons.
Madoff or Obama....same difference!Obama has stolen $5 Trillion in
100 days while Madoff stole only $500 Billion in 30 years....lets give Obama
1500 years right along side Bubba!!
It's nice too know that he will be spending a lot of time in a "GATED
that all the liberals want to use Madoff as their typical "see what happens when
rich people run things, they rip people off and conservatives are evil" and the
fact of the matter was this guy was a DEMOCRAT and generally gave to the party
and its causes. It might be good for all to check their stereotypes at the door
before sounding off (and I'm neither a Republican or Democrat but find it really
funny all the name calling that goes on these posts without any knowledge to
back up their opinions).
Interesting. 150 yrs for a Ponzi scheme that went south. The similarities to
social security are striking. (That is, new investors pay off old investors.)
Who will be thrown to the wolves when social security goes the same way? I'm
not sure that we've got a jail cell large enough to hold them all.
Re: Madoff and Obama | 1:48 p.m. June 29, 2009 Where did you get
your figures? I'm guessing Limbaugh or Hannidy might have thrown that number out
a few times? Did it occur to you that neither of your "heroes" even have a
college degree? Why would you listen with such conviction to a couple of
blowhards with just a High School education backing them up? Oh, and our
education system is in such great shape to be putting out people who shape
others opinions...Take a little bit of truth, stretch it out to fit your
current talking points, ad in some lies and spin it to fit your agenda. It is a
great formula...Maybe I should go write for those clowns, bet the money is
Just think... If this were the previous administration, Bernie would've gotten a
bailout & a pardon.
To this individual, this is only the earthly judgement, wait until he gets
across to the other side of life!I dont think he will last 10 years.
What about the scam artists in Congress? Running a 50 year ponzi-scheme called
How do we keep him alive so he can serve out the whole 150?
Looks like he "Madoff" like a bandit, right? Get it? Haha. Maybe NOW he'll
understand what breaking the law will do.
These are the type of people(Madoff) that are the ones truly responsible for the
current economic crisis, not Bush, Obama, or Pelosi. It is the greed of the
corporate world that has ruined America's economy.
We should be praising Madoff and not sending him to jail. He is a pure
capitalist. People were dumb enough to buy into what he was selling and he made
millions off it. He is no different than bottled water companies or Gold's Gym
(they're still taking my money and I haven't been in years). If we as consumers
are stupid, we deserve to lose our money. The government should not be
prosecuting this guy, he should be our nation's chief economic advisor. We need
someone to help us make money off the rest of the world the way Madoff off his
investors. After all what are the other countries going to do when they realize
they can't get their money back? Attack us?
re: SCUM | 3:58 p.m. June 29, 2009 //How do we keep him alive so he
can serve out the whole 150?//Keep him away from Jack Kevorkian.
RE: Rush O'Hannidy | 3:25 p.m. June 29, 2009Judging from the way YOU
spelled "Hannidy" your not to educated yourself!!!
I refused to sell security's because the SEC harassed and intimidated our sales
force. Several agents quit or were fired for not living up to SEC
standards. Missing a one percentage point on a portfolio could bring
thousands of dollars fines.While the SEC harassed small players like
us, these billion dollar crooks were raping and pillaging investors.How many SEC employees have been fired? none..How many SEC
employees have been fined? none..Madoff was an SEC administrator.
And he made them look like the fools they are.Hypocrisy and
Rush O'Hannidy, do you really judge intelligence by whether or not someone has a
college degree? I'll bet the vast majority of the swindlers graduated from some
college or university. Maybe you and your MBA ought to search Bernie Madoff,
Kenneth Lay, Jeffrey Skilling, Andrew Fastow, Philip Anschutz, Richard Scrushy,
Joseph Nacchio oh yeah and Barak Obama. I'll bet every one of them has a degree
in something and America will never be the same. I'll go with hard working blue
collar every time. At least they will leave you with your retirement. Also you
dont have to like, listen to, or have anything to do with Rush Limbaugh or
Sean Hannity if dont want to. Being robbed of your future is pretty hard to
Dear Freedom:If we are going to be persnickety about spelling:It's "you're not too educated yourself", not "your not to educated
yourself".You misspelled two words while scolding "Rush O'Hannidy"
about misspelling only one; he is one word ahead of you so far!
Over a hundred years ago a woman called Adele Spitzeder did the same thing here
in Munich, Germany. A lot of her customers committed suicide after their
financial loss.When I heard this story many years ago, I thoughtthis
couldn`t happen again.But obviously the greed often nebulize the mind of
Isnt our social sercurity sytem one big ponzi scheme? Just a thought think about
@We should not lock him upThanks for that post. I had a great laugh.
:) I too am tired of the right vs left. There are many more people
guilty of crimes in this situation. 150 years is ridiculous. I'd rather see him
actually pay debt via manual labor, than letting him sit in a cell getting fat
while living off tax dollars.
Why would the previous admin. get Madoff off if he was a big demo supporter.
More hypocricy about which party is really connected to big corporations.They both are!
He doesn't deserve to die in jail. So he stole some money. It's just worthless
paper anyway. Just make him live in a one bedroom apartment in a noisy part of
a dirty city. That's punishment enough.