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will actually be THE most interesting in utah jazz history since half the team could possibly be gone. the very last time that this happened was the very same offseason that the utah jazz foundation was shaken by the earthquake known as stokton to malone saying adios and farewell. at least d-will is the only stability that the utah jazz currently have at the moment. we'll see next offseason if AK47 stays or goes as well. it kills me that booz only decides that he is healthy for the playoffs every yr and that the regular season seems a bit much for him (and to think that us fans had it bad with ostertag, 'tag' is nothing compared to carlos boozer, my goodness)
we the Jazz fans expect that Boozer will not wear a Jazz uniform again, whether he opts out, whether a sign and trade happens, what's important is we get rid of Boozer, that is if we want a successful season ahead of us.. I expect also that Memo will sign an extension contract, that is if his agent is not too greedy,.. how about Korver? I'm not impressed with the way Korver plays last season although I'm giving him benefit of a doubt because of the surgery that he undergone, but for me it will depend on his decision, if he opts out then I think we better let him go, I think Miles will have a break-out this coming season
shape than KOC is admitting. As long as they do not do something really stupid like over pay Okur and Boozer they will be fine.
If you adjust Koufos's numbers for last year they are about the same as Okur's but Koufos has twice as many blocks and he has no 3s.
There are 5 free agent Cs the Jazz could go after if Okur walks and most of them can be had for a lot less than 9 Mill (Wallace, Anderson, Gortat, Pachulia, and Nesterovic).
There are several PFs who are worth looking at. Odom, Gooden, Bass, Varejao, McDyess, and maybe Joe Smith. With the exception of Odom all of these would cost a lot less than Boozer and should put up decent numbers in the Jazz system. Many of these players could be signed to a one year contract.
The Jazz could also trade Harp for a PF or C. Or they could sign Collins, Price etc. to a one year contract and bundle additional expiring contracts in a mid year trade for a good player. They would get by until mid year with Koufos/Suton.
Who cares about the Jazz? They will always be an ok team in a small market that will NEVER REACH THE FINALS AGAIN let alone win the whole thing.
LAKERS 15 CHAMPIONSHIPS
Kobe is my hero.
What I find humurous with Boozer is that Utah fans are upset with his work ethics and non-loyalty. Hello McFly. Did Boozer not stab Cleveland in the back for more money? Why would Jazz fans not think he would do the same thing in Utah when the time came? A leopard does not change its spots.
How about some fans with ability to really see things.
We listen to Mr. Anonymous who won't give his name but thinks Boozer is bad. The thing bad Boozer forgets to play the humble role and talks like a man offending some shallow Jazz fans. Doesn't matter that he is one of 5 NBA players to put up the 20 / 10 numbers we want him gone. Grow up, use your real name..Boozer does.
Another suggestion is play Koufous and a second round draft choice in the NBA. Hello!! did anyone see Koufous in even a backup role against Pao Gasol or Odom during the playoffs? do you think there is a reason for that?
Mark Stein says Korver cannot guard a cheerleader but we are going to keep him due to his offseason surgery, that iis really kind of you. that might change his stats from a passer to shooter in the pressure situations. Keep dreaming.
We want to compete in the league then we have to surround our stars, Dwill and Boozer with some help. Trade Andre for Magette, trade Okur for Gortat, buy someone to help us out.
Outside the shadows of the Wasatch front, the Jazz are considered a 2nd rate team and market...similar to the Timberwolves! The Jazz are the "Mini Me" version of the Lakers!!! Stats don't lie
If you look at the stats for a moment, what do the Jazz have on their roster for next year:
D-Will - 36 MPG 19.4 PPG 10.7 APG - Great
R Brewer - 32 MPG 13.7 PPG Dunking 50%FG%
P Millsap - 30 MPG 13.5 PPG 8.6 RPG
A Kirilenko - 27 MPG 11.6 PPG
If Okur and Boozer are lost the Jazz loose 33.2 points per game and the rest of the team can only score just better than that. Granted Millsap will pick up but he cannot do it all. The Jazz need 33 PPG either in one or two players.
If you think that Miles or Korver will make up the Difference you are crazy. Unless the Jazz find two Great to Good players the 2009/2010 season will be a lottery year.
My guess the Jazz will fold to the pressure and sign both Okur and Boozer. Then for the next 3 years will be a first or second round team. Then D-Will will Opt out and go where he can win.
about the Jazz? I do. I don't pretend to know much about how to run an NBA team, as do so many of the poseurs on here; I just like basketball and the Jazz are consistently in the mix. Maybe I should jump on the Lakers bandwagon; that would be the easy thing to do. But I'd rather pick the hometown team and hang in there with them...
But I must admit Coach Sloans courtside rantings are getting to be a little much. He's an embarrassment and might even be overrated at this point.
Korver will have a break out season this year! Let's hope it is with the Jazz!
Kevin O Connor is on the hot seat heading into these coming weeks. The Jazz need change on this roster, and there will be a lot of angry Jazz fans if we just decide to bring back 2 of the 3 current players. We need some action; sign-and-trades, FA splash, etc. We are tired and bored with the current roster, and we want a new running mate for Deron Williams.
Re: Who Cares 8:15, A lot of the posters on this thread are very knowledgable die hard fans who keep track of stats,records and rosters, and this is good, as we can use their expertise gain info we would otherwise not take the time to ferret out. But many of us are just fans who love the game win or loose. Thanks "Who cares" for writing a post that probably describes most of the Jazz fans feelings.
With the economy we are all in today these Primma-Donnas want raises and long term contracts? Give myself and all NBA fans a break! Just why under what justification do these spoiled rotten jerks think they can hold up their organizations and the people that really pay the tab for their inconsiderate, outrageous attitudes? Send them all packing! Lets get some reality in sports just like every where else.
Boozer leaving will have NO effect on the overall record.
Yeah, he averages 20/10. But how can Boozer lovers ignore his non-existent defense? It's not hard to score 20 when the offense is run through you. And the rebounds? Just watch him play. He doesn't try to defend his man or get over on help defense. He just turns around and positions himself for a possible rebound.
During the winning streak last season (with Boozer out), the five starters all had better stats, especially Okur, who was on fire when he was running the pick and pop with Williams.
Boozer is not a championship-level player. He's overpaid and is completely unreliable. You can't pay $12M+ to a guy with the pain tolerance of a 3-yr old who misses 1/3 of the games.
No one is rushing to try to obtain him. That says a lot about his value. I predict he'll opt in and have a great year. He has to. If he gets hurt, his market value will be non-existent.
Fortunately, KOC and Miller won't be fooled. They're not going to re-sign him.
Sayonara Carlos!
"...and perhaps even Jarron Collins." Give me a break. This bum is the biggest theif in Jazz history. His only contribution last year was telling other players to dress up for Obama. This scrub should have been playing in Greece years ago.
Boozer is a great offensive talent when he plays. He is a defensive liability and he only plays 65 % of his games. You can't build a team around him. If you give him the raise he wants there is no money for role players.
Boozer is very replaceable with a very good PF who will play defense and most of the games. The Jazz need to be patient and position for the right mid season trade and they will get the right player.
If Korver opts in the Jazz are stuck with him. However, his expiring contract can be traded (with Harps) for a better PF than Boozer.
Had Sloan played Koufos instead of Collins in the regular season, Koufos would have been playing in the playoffs and done much better than Collins. If you are going to lose at least develop the cheap young talent so they are ready when they are needed.
One reason the Jazz are in this situation is Sloan's Vet bias. Vet's are more expensive and he will not develop the young talent fast enough.
The Jazz can replace Korver's outside shooting cheaply this year.
A tasty alternative to inflated nba ticket prices and nba players with over inflated salaries would be tickets to watch the Aggies play in the Spectrum.
A coach and players that play with heart. Go Big Blue!
I have always said that Collins should not be on the floor. However, I mentioned him for 2 reasons.
1. Sloan will insist on Collins if there is any way to get him.
2. This year his only value would be as a traded expiring contract.
I should have suggested the Jazz actually get a one year contract with a player who had trade value.
Both Price and Collins have little trade value outside of their expiration dates. I was thinking in terms of what the Jazz were likely to do instead of what they really should do.
It was my mistake. Thanks for pointing out that it would be much smarter to get 2 better players for cheap and then use them in trades.
He should be able to sign Millsap for 6+ Mill. He should be able to resign Okur for 9 Mill. If not he should be able to replace him for a lot less money and get the same or better numbers.
Gortat comes to mind. Gortat plays defence and is a rebounding machine. Birdman comes to mind. The Jazz can improve at C for less than 9 Mill. If all else fails Koufos can play C this year and put up the same numbers as Okur (adjusted for 33 minutes) and he only costs about 1 Mill.
Boozer can be replaced with someone who plays most of the games and plays defense for less than 10 Mill.
Boozer and Okur's offensive numbers are replaceable. Fortunately their bad defense will be fixed at the same time.
KOC can make the team better on defense and the offensive system can adjust and put of nearly the same offensive numbers for under the lux tax.
late last year that keeping a team together "is good for another four or five wins." Where would that have left us last year? Right up there where Denver was - in 2nd place at the end. I think keeping the nucleus the Jazz have but (finally!) getting DWill some decent back-ups (Brevin Knight - nice guy but that's not the point; we needed a leader) in Ronnie Price (proved he deserves some playing time) and "old school" Eric Maynor will put the Jazz back in contention come playoff time.
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