Comments about ‘House passes major energy-climate bill’

KM--I'm glad people will stop "comming" to our country--an easy solution to illegal immigration!

How many years will it take for the left to realize you are choking the life out of the USA? Why does the Pres hate the USA?

Stupid government.

@John Wicks: One day you will too!

Utah passed a bill last year:

2008 S.B. 202 Substitute
Energy Resource and Carbon Emission Reduction Initiative
Curtis S. Bramble/David Clark

No votes against this bill that was signed into law. Republican and/or Democrats.
In Utah we can pass bills in this area, without 1500 pages, and without costing $800 Billion.

"To the extent that it is cost effective to do so, beginning in 2025 the annual retail electric sales in this nation of each electrical corporation shall consist of qualifying electricity or renewable energy certificates in an amount equal to at least 20% of adjusted retail electric sales."

That sentence could replace the whole cap and trade bill, just about.

Utah 54-17-602

I changed the word state to nation.

For people that don't think it would work, look at all the renewable energy power locations we now have in Utah and growing...

how can the hottest years on record be the latest years, when we have in our recorded history crops being successfully grown in Greenland in the early part of the last millenium? When seafarers new of the "northwest passage" but couldn't find it (Because of the ice that has blocked it during this current mini-ice age).

The hottest years in the US since we've been taking good meteorological records are the 1930's. Look at the data, not Al Gore's "fudging".

The "hockey stick" is bogus. Al Gore is a flim-flam man and so many suckers are lining up to follow him.

I have been involved in scientific research for over 30 years and I can tell you that the literature (scientific evidence) supporting global warming and climate change is shoddy and for the most part non-peer reviewed. Mostly opinion statements by those that stand to get, or are getting millions in research grants.

As for the actual research to support climate change... there isn't any.

Want to decrease emissions? Build some nuclear power plants and buy a Tesla. They are a beautiful automobile, 0-60 in 3.5 seconds (thats faster than a Vet, Ferrari, and a Porsche) and can go nearly 300 miles on a charge.

This is a simple example of market driven environmentally sound clean energy policy WITHOUT government intervention... and our air quality would be perfect!

For the 30 billion $$ that Obama flushed down the auto industry toilet just to suck up to the unions, he could have spread the Tesla technology across the auto industry AND built the nuclear power plants to run the cars. And oh yea, the Middle East would be nothing but a bad memory.

Sadly, liberals are more interested in gaining power than in real solutions.

It's bizarre and fascinating that so many of the opinions expressed here are focused on Al Gore. Frankly, whether Mr. Gore is a saint or sinner isn't my highest concern. What is of concern is whether human beings are changing the atmosphere in a way that has or is likely to affect the climate.

On that question, some of the postings here have been frighteningly misguided. For example, at least one person has claimed that the Earth's mean temperature has declined since 1998. I'd like to see the data on that, but climate is not about what has happened in the last ten years. Climate is about long-term trends. If someone tries to draw a broad conclusion about climate based on a few years of data - even ten years of data - don't believe them.

Long term climate predictions are complex, and our understanding will undoubtedly improve in the future. That said, the overwhelming majority of the scientists studying climate conclude that human is changing the climate. Several professional societies, including the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Geophysical Union have adopted formal statements to that effect.

How can I find how Utah's representatives voted on the National Energy Tax bill?

It will be interesting to see how those that think we are nutcases feel when they ere hit with the huge costs that will fall to everyone as the result of this bill. This bill if passeed will put huge amounts of money in the hands of the government and give thgem more power over us. How trusting, gullible and non understanding can one be. Perhaps they have just not studied the constitution or communismm. Obama is a communist. Perhaps you will be like the White rats in Poland who shut their eyes and would not see and were destroyed. Do you no longer understand what our country stands for? Or are we too much like the Romans we like being fed and controlled. I like having freedom and this is a fag flying event and anyone who thinks it is not is naive and I am truly sorry for them.

For those out there who think this will help & lower costs, this will raise the price to produce steel products also, which will raise the price of cars, appliances, houses, anything that has steel ... that is if the steel companies decide to stay in business in (what is left of) the USA.

This Oligarchy of a government has now started to chase our steel companies out in favor of foriegn steel producers.

As a Democrat, I really am sorry for voting for this man, all out there, please accept my apology.

God help us!

I'm not giving any credibility to a self-proclaimed meterologist who can't even write gramatically correct sentences and uses the incorrect form of "you're" (your). As a proclaimed meterologist, saying that CO2 gas has NO effect on the Climate whatsoever is laughable. Even those (few) scientists who don't believe in man-made climate change will tell you that CO2 gas in the atmosphere reflects some long-wave radiation back at the Earth. Its physics, not opinion. And apparently you have a degree in economics as well?? Nice try.

For all you super intelligent global warming believers. If everything is warming up then why hasn't places like death valley set any heat records? The last hottest heat record there was in 1913.

Alright:

Because weather and climate aren't the same thing. That's like saying "If you think I'm going bald, explain to me why this hair growing out of my ear so long!"

Wow, I cannot believe how SELFISH we are about getting a new law that is going to help future generations to live healthy!!! Sometimes is better to PAY MORE to get something BETTER,
We are KILLING each other in the world because of the OIL today.
WE CRY TO PAY MORE IN CLEAN ENERGY, BUT WE DONT CRY WHEN WE GO TO BUY A NEW HD TV OR THE PS3 OR THE NEW BLUE RAY PLAYER OR THE BULLETS AND GUNS TO GO TO "SAFARI" @ THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS!!!

THINK PEOPLE, THINK!!!! Our childrens will be better, maybe it will cost more, but it will be better!!!!

I really choose to pay more now, so my grandchildren will have a better place to live and play.

DONT BE SELFISH!!!

Pay for nothing get nothing. Yeah our cities won't be dirty they will be empty. You fools have not seen Detroit lately. I would rather have a Bejing than a unemployed Detroit.

I'm not dumb enough to to think that those who are supporting the cap and trade are seriously for more expensive energy. I realize also they are trying to push our buttons, But how foolish are these kids. one day they hope to have jobs and money and a home. Good luck with that my friends.

Climate change may be real. Economics and oppressive govt is real I'll take my chances with what i know exists.

If not being brain washed by the human caused global warming crowd is "so Utah" then I am proud to be from Utah. You are the one who needs to THINK. I have a much "greener" life style than most the so called environmentalists. I have a 3 mile commute. I live in a modest sized home. I buy wind power because I think it is something worth while to explore. My wife stays at home so she doesn't commute at all. We live a very simple life. I live this way because I want to. I think the human cause global warming nonsense is just that, nonsense. It is all about power and money. Just because I don't believe in this doesn't mean I don't care about clean air. You've watched Gore's movie one too many times. Think for yourself.

The problem with your analysis is that this legislation will not help children "live healthy." You've bought the liberal tripe that this bill is about improving the environment. It won't. It's simply a money-grubbing power grab.

Have you people read what's in this tax bill?

One example of craziness: in order to sell your home, it has to be energy rated, including your applicances.... Holy cow! Do we live in Russia?