"I'll keep my mortgage, my money, my insurance; You can keep the CHANGE." I
laughed so hard!
Sue | 12:41 a.m. June 26, 2009 - are you serious, "at no one's expense"? Are you
a tax payer or just someone riding on the back of the working man/woman. You
must think he's paying for all these initiatives out of his own pocket or from
some magic piggy bank in the Treasury basement. Those who got in on CARS thank
the tax payers for giving them $4500 and those that are buying houses thank the
tax payers for the $8000 they have been given. I didn't get either of these
freebies, did you. Do you honestly think that printing more money and giving
away the farm is the way to go, especially if it means that we'll be the worst
for it in the future, both immediate and long term. Hurray for green this and
that and hooray for feeling good but it can't and won't last without a little
dose of reality. I mean, how much longer can we support the failing industries,
be it banking or auto or whatever. Guess we'll see. Go Green!
We need Glenn Beck in the White House. Moral people must stand up for
righteous leaders. God Bless America.
What a great opportunity for the liberal left to really learn about their
cohorts in stupidity. Just spend 20 minutes and re-read the comments made. Hate,
lies, dishonest representations of things said and insinuations about things not
said. Go ahead, re-read them and you will get a new perspective on why so many
conservative thinkers and those on the right are so opposed to Obama's agenda.
Here is Government 101, HS level...for all those radical leftists who write so
dishonestly:The election in 7 states was carried by less than 1% of
the States voters. But each one got all of the electoral college votes. One is
called living in a democracy, the other is called living in a Republic. Don't
distort the differences between the electoral college votes and the populace
vote. And don't get on a public comment forum and try and re-write history to
serve your own lies and dishonest comments. The simple fact is that the
political conservative want less government in their respective lives. They want
less government in church, less in the doctors office, less in the public
school, family and bedroom. The Liberal want more.
Analysis by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) and the Joint
Committee on Taxation shows that the House bill that's being rushed through by
Democrats would add $239 billion to the deficit in the next 10 years – and
that's after raising taxes by $820 billion and cutting Medicare Advantage by
$150 billion. Now do you understand? We can't afford it!
REAL TRUTHWe need access to a PUBLIC HEALTH CARE option to have true
CHOICE and true cost controls.If Medicare and Medicaid was
privatized, do you think it would still be around? It would of been
bankrupt years ago with the money sharks of the private system in control. I dont see seniors complaining about wanting to go to a privatized
system. Do you think any privatised insurance scam cares?More importantly I dont see PEOPLE in the following countrys fighting for a
privatized system.Australia, Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland,
France ,Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Slovenia, the Netherlands, New
Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Spain, Sweden and the United
Kingdom (England) Etc.They can SLEEP BETTER knowing they all have
COVERAGE. People in all other countrys that have a public healthcare
system also have options for private healthcare too!They have more
FREEDOM of choice than Americans.
Just wondering if all of the people on here backing Obama are going to follow
the chosen one over the cliff of socialised health care? At least
think for yourself for once in your life and realize Obama is trying to
completely destroy the best medical industry in the world. If we as Americans
let the Federal Government run our healthcare system we will never recover. Just
take a look at Europe and Canada, and the time that people have to wait to be
treated. If you think that Obama is telling the truth when he says
he doesn't want to do away with private insurance, you are only fooling
yourself. Obama wants nothing more than to control everything he can. As an Iraq
Veteran believe me when I say you would rather go to a private hospital rather
than a government hospital. Socialised health care equals government hospitals
Because power corrupts, society's demands for moral authority and character
increase as the importance of the position increases. John Adams
The Obama facade is becoming more transparent each and every passing month.
People now understand some things about BO:1. He is not as smart as
once believed. His economic policies have economists across the country
scratching their heads and his recent press conferences have analysts all
saying... what???2. He is much more liberal than once believed. Obama
spoke as a moderate during his campaign but he is governing on the far far left.
America is NOT a far left country and people are pulling their support.3.
Obama is a Chicago thug. A snake is a snake and Obama's past is certainly
coloring his policies. Anyone who knows the Chicago political machine is saying
Obama is a typical corrupt product of the system.4. Obama is a radical.
America is NOT radical.I expect BO's popularity to continue to
decline and unless he can reverse the unemployment decline his fellow liberals
in congress are in BIG trouble come the 2010 elections.
Has any presidency done more harm to our Constitution and economy that George W.
Bush? If the lunatic fringe wants Obama/Biden ousted, that means our President
would be Nancy Pelosi per our constitution. Pleasant dreams!
Dear obsess | 1:35 a.m. June 29, 2009Apparently you are totally illiterate
in what happened during the Clinton era. The Clinton era pushed through these
bills... fruits of that idiot legislation that Clinton and his cronies pushed
through the congress. --------------My Gosh!! A little
histroy lesson is due...Who controlled the Senate and the House
under Clinton from 1994 to 2006? The Wigs? Nope!The
Federalists? Nope!Those dang socialist democrats?!? Nope...The Republicans!! Yes the good ol GOP was pushing this "idiot
legislation".Clinton didn't make the law it was the GOP in power in
Congress just like today we have the Democrats.Indeed I blame
Clinton and the Pugs for acts like removing the Glass Steagle Act put in place
after the Great Depression to regulate the finical system.
Red Shirt uses bits and pieces from article trying to argue a point. But if he
took the time to read the entire article he would contradict his own points.For example, I still haven't heard how Obama and media made the current
recession worse. When in fact everyone in mid 08 was saying recession likely to
last into 2010.
@ to replacement | 6:21 p.m.Mitt Romney's "business savvy" would
make far more sense in this current environment????Running a nation
is not at all the same thing as playing corporate takeover games with a sporting
goods store!Get a clue, buddy.
the writer has no clue whatsoever - amazing - i am speechless...
How wonderful it would be if we could have had Obama instead of W. Bush, then
things would be so much better. Let's hope the republicans can learn something
from their mistakes and become part of ths solution and not just problem and
Mr. Anderson, stop, take a deep breath, and read a book. Slowly wean yourself
from the 3 hours daily of neocon radio. Gradually ease in to reading books that
you might not even agree with. I've seen it done before, I assure you...You can
beat paranoia and ignorance!
You thinking is off. Georgia Bush was not a good president. Selecting another
not good president is not a better solution. I am agnostic, live in Georgia,
and would far prefer the choice to have included Mitt Romney. His business
savvy would make far more sense in this current environment.
I love in these comments when everyone refers to the fact that we live in a
"democracy". Actually, we live in a representative republic. Not only is Obama
a disappointment to me, but so are the representatives we've elected to speak
for us. I'm not always sure they have our best interest at heart, but their
own. Being a conservative, I am disappointed with republicans acting more like
liberals in an attempt to be seen as more electable. Conservatives want
conservative thinkers-go figure!
"Obama Republican" is an oxymoron.
"Fear mongering" and "Constitution-trampling" politicians? Who do you think you
are kidding?!"Fear mongering" is the lifeblood of liberalism and the
Democratic Party, and "Constitution trampling" is their modus operandi. How
else to you explain a bloated federal government that dominates nearly every
aspect of our lives and seeks to control the rest? The federal government was
designed to be one of limited powers, so that the federal tyranny now unfolding
would never occur. Our constitution has already been shredded by politicians
from both parties who have expanded the power of the federal government. It
almost makes me pine for the Articles of Confederation.Go ahead
blame Bush and the GOP, as you undoubtedly will. You will find no argument
here. Bush and the GOP have been a big part of the problem because they have
ignored conservative principles and have instead espoused liberal ones in an
ill-advised effort to "move to the center."It's time for "We, the
People" to reject the "fear-mongering" and "constitution-shredding" of both
parties, take back the power, return the federal government to is limited
sphere, and return freedom and prosperity to our great country.
It is no wonder the Republican Party is shrinking! They truly have lost focus,
or maybe it is just BIG BUSINESS blocking their view.I just do not
get the thought process anymore, we spend billions on bombs, guns, espionage,
and black ops. Why because the "Military Industrial Complex" DDE: wants it that
way.If we took one year, yes one year of the defense spending in
this country and spent it on alt fuel sources we could be off our addiction to
oil. How simple is that, spend money to cut the life line of our enemies.
Instead we go on funding the very countries that want to destroy us! Check out
the Pickens Plan for one solution.The Oil Companies in this country
do not want any change in policy. In turn they fund both sides Dem and Rep and
we go no where. Status Quo for Oil is the best policy. Obama has
very limited power when up against the real tyrants in this country.
Why is it that about 50% of the time, the editors of this site won't let my
comments through (all clean and respectful mind you)while they are always
willing to let bigots like this one publish full articles.I don't
get it DN!!!!But then again...I don't get Rush Limbaugh either....
You think running a conservative will win? Get real. That's not what America
wants. America wants leaders who care, not more fear mongering and
Constitution-trampling politicians. MCCain might have done better had he not
picked a right-wing nut case to run with.
Why is it, no matter what subject, Mormons always get dragged into it? We are
not talking religion, we are talking politics! Pay attention to the subject at
hand or don't post.
what you say is the sad truth. they know it;s true, but they don't like it. dems
have only one adv atage in politics: unity. where the republicans split thier
parties because thier conscience tells them to reconsider something, dems
blindly follow their party. some may say this is not so, but the facts suggest
that it is. how many clinton supporting dems voted for mccain or independently
after obama was nominated, despite all the things she and her campaign said
about him? romney never said anything bad about mccain which is why the reps
supported him when he ran. as a romney supporter, i for one would not vote for
mccain if he had said so many bad things about romney as obam did about clinton,
or if romney had said so many things about mccain that would make question his
intergrity like clinton did to obama. one cannot even dispute the fact that if
these dems had a mind of thier own, obama would have never won the election.
Over and over again I see the dems/liberals accuse every FACT dropped by a
Rep/conservative as being straight from Rush, Hannity, etc... How do you know?
How do YOU know unless YOU are listening to these same people. I get accused
of being a Limbaugh listener every time I burden a dem with a FACT. Dems hate
facts... However, I cannot tell you the last time I heard the Limbaugh show.
Funny thing, when he is on, I am at WORK. Go figure.
The problem with the last election was that the GOP did not run conservatives,
and the media is flat-out biased. The GOP ran Democrat-lite candidates and
RINOs who were propped up by the liberal media in the primaries (e.g., John
McCain) and deserved to lose. No one can out-racist, out pander, out demagogue,
out tax and spend, out lie the Democrats.By the way, are you a paid
political hack like so many other liberal posters on this board?
I cannot believe that conservatives have the audacity to argue that President
Obama wants to take away their freedoms. Conservatives dont value any freedom
except their own. You see, if your a conservative out beating people over the
head with a bat and someone makes a law outlawing beatings then they would argue
your intolerant. But heres what I dont understand. They used to play this game
better. What happened? You really think Rush Limbaugh has mainstream appeal?
You really want to make him the republican rallying cry? Have you all gone mad?
GO TO THE MIDDLE!!....or not...just go on getting your clocks cleaned.
American automakers made what sold.Detroit cranked out those Gas guzzling
SUVs because that's what 'mericans waz buy'in! $$$Toyota already
had Hybrids developed and on the road because gas has been $5+ in Japan for
years!50% of the cars in Europe are Diesels because gas is been over $5+
per gallon for years there too.Americans driving their 8mpg Hummers
and SUVs 80 miles per hour had ONE summer of $4 per gallon and you'd think it
was the end of the world!No-one has the right to force anyone to do
the right thing, that takes away freedom of choice.Grow and take
personal responsibility.If you BUY green, they will BUILD green.I for one am ticked off that I have to "bail out" greedy Automakers for build
cars that know one wants anymore.Go Germany, Go Japan!!!
To Anonymous @ 10:22 am | 2:58 p.m. June 29, 2009Ditto to those who say
conservatives are just "parroting" Rush Limbaugh. I guess that's because you
can't refute what Rush is saying. He's right, and you resent it.-----------Really, have Rush run for office since he's the top
Republican in 2012 and lets see what America thinks. If he and the
GOP is right then why do the Democrats hold the House, the Senate, and the White
House?If your polices were so good for America then why were they
rejected over the last few elections?Right wing kooks be it in Iran
or Afghanistan are just that nuts. No wonder we continue pray more moderates
will lead these societies. The same goes for us.
A Question..... | 9:44 a.m. June 26, 2009 "Why when President Bush was in
office was it OK to criticize, call him names, etc? Now that Mr. Obama is in
office the Left demands that he be respected... Hypocrisy?"Bush's
took eight VERY LONG years to do the damage he did to this country. It will take
much longer than that just to recover. But, within days of Obama taking office
the Republican choir began their droning chant of "...he's destroying our
country! Family Values! Founding Fathers! Stop Marxist Socialism!"You MUST accept the idea that there is NOTHING that you Republicans can do to
ever take away your history of President Nixon and his watergate and the Vietnam
War. Nothing can take away your history with President Reagan and the Iran
Contra secret government. Nothing can take away Bush's government based on
theology and dogma over reason and science.You're going to have to
live with that.Sadly, we ALL share the history of Republican
presidents lies, deceptions, fearmongering, subversive manipulations and
criminal activity.Obama will NEVER be one of you, no matter what
lies and fearmongering you spread about him.
Do you and your liberal friends know anything other than empty fallacies, such
as ad hominem (attacking the individual, not the argument) and the appeal to
ridicule (ridiculing an argument without refuting it)? That's about as
sophisticated as a playground argument. (Oh yeah? We'll you're stupid, and
your mom dresses you funny!) I guess if that's all you've got, that's all
you've got.Ditto to those who say conservatives are just "parroting"
Rush Limbaugh. I guess that's because you can't refute what Rush is saying.
He's right, and you resent it. So, go ahead with your empty fallacies. They
mean nothing and do nothing except "convince" people who already agree with you.
The TRUTH | 7:17 a.m. June 29, 2009katrina? so does bush control the
weather? No he doesn't control the weather nor does he control the
terrorists that attacked us on 9/11 from Afghanistan. BUT he does
control to how act to those disasters:Katrina reaction was a
absolute failure for the richest country in the world.Reaction to
the attack from Afghanistan was a failure: attacking Iraq while Taliban and Al
Qayda grew into nuclear Pakistan.
AmericaWakeUp | 4:27 p.m. June 28, 2009He is running the entire show all
by himself...a true dictatorship..----------Obama is a
dictator? I recall the election was a landslide victory when compared to recent
elections.I did not know that he was making and passing the laws,
suppressing decent, etc. Didn't the House 219-212 just last Friday pass the
"Cap and Trade" bill. Not really dictator like.
Mr Anderson exemplifies a group of sad, bitter, and ignorant conservatives who
are fortunately being marinalized and are dying off so that this country can
continue to lead the world.Good riddance to you and your type.
"Or illegal aliens doing a better job of speaking English then our 43rd
President, wonder why he didn't use a teleprompter." or our 44th for that
matter. the one industry that as boosted during this crisis is the teleprompter
business. can you say "b "uh" rack hussien obama"?
funny thing. a civil rights lawyer does'nt study the constitution, he studies
wats to get around it. constitutional lawyers study the constitution. either
way, someon who says we need to rewrute our founding documents isn't good as
being either. and to The TRUTH | 7:17 a.m. June 29, 2009katrina? so does
bush control th weather? wow, i'm surprised we were so eager to kick him out of
office. katrina's failure did not come from bush, it came from the governor. the
president has no power to interfere with a state. if there was a problem, the
state failed, not bush. if bush did interfere, he could've faced impeachment
charges for violating his duties. or maybe that's why the dems are so mad about
katrina. missed chance for impeachment.
the truth | 4:44 p.m. June 26, 2009,"Bush may have done wrong, Obama IS
doing wrong,"May have? What part of the worst economy since the
great depression do you not understand, which started in Dec 2007 a year before
Obama took office?Or NO WMDs in Iraq? Or no Al Qayda links to Iraq
or 9/11? Or United States does NOT torture? Or War funding
through China? Or Katerina failure. Or continue reading my pet goat
while the country is under attack. Or illegal aliens doing a better
job of speaking English then our 43rd President, wonder why he didn't use a
re: Red Shirt | 10:34 a.m. June 27, 2009 Red Shirt. You take a little bit
of factual information then add some spin so the end result are distortions and
lies just as Limbaugh/HannityYES, absolutely true. His facts are
all spin that can easily counter argued.
A Question..... | 9:44 a.m. June 26, 2009Why when President Bush was in
office was it OK to criticize, call him names, etc? Now that Mr. Obama is in
office the Left demands that he be respected and allowed to do his job.
Hypocrisy?Bush wasn't elected president by the people Al Gore had
the popular vote (aka people chose Gore). It was the SUPREME court that decided
on FL thus giving the presidency to the right-wing conservative.Sound similar... fast forward to 2009 in Iran where the SUPREME leader decided
the election for a right-wing conservative nut.Ironic how we want
right-wing nuts in other countries out for more open minded liberals yet
right-wing nuts are good for this country??
Hear Hear! | 10:31 a.m. June 26, 2009Obama should be shown the
door...before Fuhrer Obama and his hacks destroy our country beyond repair.FYI the country over the last 8 years has been destroyed under the Bush
Administration. Clinton left with a surplus Bush left the country in the worst
economic condition since the great depression and being despised around the
world.BTW conservatives need to make up their minds on Obama ... is
he like Hitler or a Messiah? Bush on the other hand preemptively invaded a
country(like Hitler) and quoted the bible in his speeches (like the Messiah).
From the sounds of it Frederick has studied the Constitution more then Obama...
oh wait Obama is a Civil Rights Lawyer who finished with honors from Harvard
law... while Frederick is most likely a Joe the Plumber from BYU.BTW
I didn't see the government intervening in Ford's affairs... I wonder why?
Maybe its because Ford didn't take billions in tax payer bailout.
Obama is not a leader, he is a new generation pitchman trying to sell america a
load of crap. To save america you can't do it by taking control of the economy
or business, there has to be some thought given to put more money in the hands
of consumers. Consumers are the base of the economy, not failing businesses that
can't be salvaged with financial gifts. If anything is to be taxed, let it be
the imported goods and products so america can become self sustaining again. The
world economy is dependent on the american consumers who have jobs and are
working.His goals to give every poor more welfare will only worsen
our economic woes. He should be giving the poor jobs with better incomes and let
them be their own care takers. Socialism and welfare only creates more poor and
more economic problems.By the time Obama has done all his damage to
our economy with his so called support for the poor we will be in a bigger
depression than we now face. Obama's plans to tax the working americans to fund
and give welfare to the poor will not work.
Are you absolutely clueless when you blame Bush? Apparently you are totally
illiterate in what happened during the Clinton era. The Clinton era pushed
through these bills, removing restrictions and controls and oversights. It took
a few years for the problem to develop and we now have the fruits of that idiot
legislation that Clinton and his cronies pushed through the congress. Start finding out the facts before you shoot off your mouth. First put brain
in gear before starting mouth. THe apostle Peter ha it right when he said the
toungue is indeed in a slippery place.
is a good example of hysteria. Oh my goodness...get some help!
Frederick, wow...just wow.Do you read...ever? Or are you just
parroting Rush's talking points.
Obama is bad. It is obvious to the intelligent, independent and productive.
Now what? Representative governments are frequently up for vote. The mid-terms
are gearing up. Learn the issues. Share your thoughts. Get out the vote.
In reading the list of anger issues, most readers/writers didn't address reasons
to show why Obama should be shown the door out...i.e He has hidden & sealed his
birth, academic, educational records to prove to Americans that he is or is not
qualified to be president... Even the Supreme Courts have thrown out the
complaints filed by every attorney questioning Obama's citizenship... He
promised change and he has complied.The country's debt is in its worst economic
fate ever!...He is running the entire show all by himself...a true
dictatorship...(by the way, what's happened to Biden)I just heard that re.
Health care, Oba said that the elderly & medically- hopless, should be let to
die. I believe the plan may be in the works. In Jan.2009 My dad was feeling
weak, I took him to the hospital & he died.(physician= middle eastern & I
believe he was terminated)...In 1 day Hiroshima was demolished,In 1 day Germany
was demolished,In 1 day the Twin Towers went down. Wonder what Obama can do in 4
years? We're seeing the show in real life!He is good looking & has gift of gab.
And how likely do some of you people think it is that Obama and other Democrats
will be "shown the door". It's not going to happen so you guys should try and
contribute what you feel are the best things you can to our country (instead or
trying to break it down). I am a Democrat now for this reason. I don't agree
completely with either Republican or Democrat platforms, but the Democrats have
a vision of the future that I like. And Republicans do more whining,
complaining and doomsday type predictions than anything else. Get a life and a
purpose for our future and stop bringing us down!
We had an election and President Obama won. The fact that Obama didn't win
Utah doesn't give us the right to nullify the process. I disagreed with those
who wanted to impeach President Bush because they opposed his policies, and I
disagree with those who wish to toss out President Obama because they oppose his
policies. As a Mormon, I was taught at a young age: "We believe in being subject
to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and
sustaining the law." This Article of Faith does not merely apply for the leaders
we vote for or agree with.
I did not vote for Obama but I hope he does well - we can all use an
improvement. I don't agree with the letter writer in all of his points and I
certainly don't think we know enough about him and his performance at this
point.But on the other hand, I think giving him a "free pass" is
dangerous and I am also concerned that those who blamed every problem under the
sun on Bush and were vicious in their verbal attacks (and on Palin and others)
are now wanting "civility" from the right when it comes to Obama.There does indeed need to be debate on health care, energy, etc, but debate
indicates two sides - something liberals don't seem to want to deal with. The
facts are that Canada and the UK are not our model for a health care system
(these are smaller countries who restrict immigration to those with a lot of
money) and that despite what Mr. Gore (whose motives include fame and fortune)
says, there IS time to address climate change and do it right.And
finally, I don't want a green car until they get a lot better.
I understand the letter writer's frustration.Obama is a major
disappointment to me too. He wouldn't know a mandate if it slapped
him in the face. It's slapping, again and again. It's a slapping machine.He's bowing to the corporations, he's acting naive in regard to
republican intent on health care reform (of course, their goal is to stop
anything from happening, as it has always been), and he doesn't seem to
understand how badly the democratic party is infiltrated by fundamentalist
capitalists. What we need is a candidate who is not afraid to be a
liberal. Obama is a left leaning moderate (at best) in policy, even if I believe
he's a liberal at heart.We can only hope that in his second term he
takes a sharp turn to the left, because I highly doubt we'll see any meaningful
reform in the next three years in the most critical areas this country has seen
since WW2 - health care - and the most important issue this planet has ever seen
- energy policy. Please raise my taxes.
Im sick of Rep,s comments, I'm sure they were silent for the last 8 years!!!
YES!!! WE REALLY NEED GREEN CARS!!!! What's wrong with you people???? or you
want still want to buy ugly american cheap cars!!! you still want to pay a lot
for gas I can imagine!!!WAKE UP!!!!STOP NONSENSE!
According to Kerry's Commanding Officer, George Elliot, Kerry being awarded
Purple Hearts for shrapnel wounds was more the rule than the exception.
(snopes)Billionaire is how you referred to Gore yet you haven't
provided a source (ie tax returns) to show us his net worth.Obama
was one of several plaintiff lawyers against a bank for DISCRIMINATORY lending
practices. You provided NO evidence of BAD loans. Red Shirt. You
take a little bit of factual information then add some spin so the end result
are distortions and lies just as
Limbaugh/Hannity/Beck/O'Reilly/Drudge/Newsmax/etc. do. You have been a good
How many years will it take to undo the damange "the One" is doing?Bush didn't even come close to this clown.
Hey Oh Brother @ 5:39, we live in a REPUBLIC! Get it right, idiot!That being said, do you honestly feel its right for Obama to even consider
signing bills from congress that were Rahm-rodded down the people's throat
without time to read and adequately argue the for and against points? Is this
really the man we need to pull America together again, or are you as blinded by
his image as all the other Democrap?300 pages of changes dropped
onto lawmakers laps at 3:am for the Global Warming Bill. If Repugs had done
this there would have been riots in the streets by the Democraps, but when they
do it is is because the Repubs lost and we need to "face the facts" of the lost.
Tell me just who is NOW doing great damage to our country?
TO "Re Obama the teacher | 7:20 p.m." here goes. John Kerry didn't get special
treatment, he was awarded purple hearts for injuries that most soldiers consider
minor. My source for that was from some retired army officers that were in
Vietnam. (not swift boaters either)Al Gore has invested in a
software company that has developed software to track CO2 emission. He also
owns "Generation Investment Management" which just happens to be a carbon
Trading Company.Obama was one of the plaintiff lawyer in the case
"Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank Fair Housing/Lending/InsuranceDocket / Court 94 C 4094 ( N.D. Ill. ) FH-IL-0011 State/Territory
Reds like Redshirt like to use the unilateral approach to everything. "GIVE ME EVIDENCE!" Neocons demand. (Redshirt does this all the time)But
are hard pressed to come up with the same.They get this from the
bogus WMD's in Iraq BS.Remember that?Sad way to through life if you
You contradict yourself. First you imply Red Shirt is using logic, history and
statistics to defend his "legitimate" views. Now you are saying he is just
expressing his opinion. Which is it? opinion or facts? I would
challenge Red Shirt's use of "history, statistics and logic." They rarely
reflect the "facts." Sources of information are always important. Surely you
wouldn't accept "facts" spouted by Keith Olbermann now would you?
Yes, let's make Red Shirt write a thesis every time he expresses an opinion,
with quotes, references and cross-references, footnotes, bibliography, and
irrefutable mathematical notations, all within his allotted 200 words. And if
he doesn't, then just dismiss it with mockery and demands for sources, not with
any substantive rebuttal. Somehow, I don't imagine your high
standards apply to any assertions made by those on the left.
Say what you will. I'm still relieved that Uncle George has gone back to Texas.
And by the way, wasn't it Bush who was in a big hurry to bailout the failed
banking system? How selective our memories.
So let's ask Red Shirt what he uses as sources. What source did he use to
suggest that John Kerry got special treatment in being awarded Purple Hearts?
What was his source to suggest that Obama was involved with a lawsuit to
force a bank to make BAD loans? What was his source to show that Al Gore
has personally become a billionaire as a result of his support of global
warming? What was his source which said Timothy Geithner wrote tax code?
I don't see RedShirt as an "evil" person any more than Dick Cheney is an "evil"
person.But one reaps what they sow don't they?Less is
"Tracey | 5:32 p.m. June 26, 2009 America is blessed that God has send us
such a great leader in President Obama to guide us through these troubled times.
We all need to get onboard and do our part too. The pickle suckers need to quite
their crying and put their shoulder to the wheel an take a positive attidute.
Yes, we can."Tracey - Just what, exactly, is the value
of "putting your shoulder to the wheel" of a train that is heading off a
cliff?Obama may mean well but in the real world you can't PERFORM
well if you're clueless. Like they say, "knowledge is power" and Obama simply
lacks much of the knowledge required to perform adequately for the world's
Is this a private fight or can anyone join in???
Hard to figure out why conservatives hate a president that is intelligent,
compassionate, and 100% American.But look who they voted for
With the Idaho guy propositioning another guy in the airport men's room, McCain
dumping his ill wife for a richer, younger one, two GOP governor's living apart
from their wives and family ... looks like the Democrats are the newly
christened family-values party.
America is blessed that God has send us such a great leader in President Obama
to guide us through these troubled times. We all need to get onboard and do our
part too. The pickle suckers need to quite their crying and put their shoulder
to the wheel an take a positive attidute. Yes, we can.
Why do I get the impression that many of the barbs against RedShirt were written
by the same person? It sounds like our good ol' Anonymous again. Yes, I
realize that the name Anonymous is used if you dont enter a name, but this one
is different. The writing of THIS Anonymous is usually easy to
recognize, even when he (she?) posts under different names. He posts frequently
on these forums, but contributes nothing to the discussion, and offers only
taunts and insults. He only makes himself look petty. He reminds me of a
little irrelevant dog who yaps constantly and nips at the heels of adults who
are attempting to engage in an intelligent debate. I just roll my eyes, smile,
and ignore the yapping.Re: the original letter writer: Good letter.
All the Redshirt bashers out there must be taking their lessons from Obama. Any
time a legitimate complaint is made of policies using history, statistics, and
logic, the only comeback is a bunch of dismissive "LOL, Rushbaugh,
Hannity-lover, Faux News brainwashed, neocon, last 8 years of Bush, etc., etc.,"
with no logical or reasonable rebuttal to your point. The intent is to cleverly
marginalize and diminish your credibility, and create an impression that they
are so enlightened that your arguments are not even worthy of a rebuttal other
than mockery. Obama is a master at this, hoping that what is lost to his
worshipers is the fact that he has offered no reasoned rebuttal....And when their policies ultimately fail miserably according to historical
precedent, they will still blame you.
republican get in to sex scandalsDEMOCRATS get inot sex scandals,Bush may have done wrong,Obama IS doing wrong,two wrongs do not make it right.Logic simple enough even a
liberal SHOULD understand it.
Yeah, that's all they've got.
I love Obama. I figure that all you extremeist need to just chill out.
Fredrick and other fellow Conservatives.who's your alternative? So
you want to already boot Obama after only 6 months calling him a failure and
STILL reserving judgment on Bush even after 8 years of disaster. So who's the
alternative? Who should we put in place after Obama is shown the door?George Bush? Dick Cheney? Sarah Palin? Mitt Romney?See, it's all
about realistic solutions. This is one of the main reasons why the GOP has been
losing in states that used to be their strongholds.
Yeah way to bring it tough on that post. You could have at least brought NEENER
NEENER. What did you learn from Hannity today, What "news" did he spew today. I
guess we'll have to wait till Monday to hear "your" thoughts.
Redshirt is starting to sound like a jaded junior high school teacher who gets
off on giving failing grades to everyone for not doing the assigned homework.LOL!
I think they might be jealous of your vast knowledge They are envious that they
do not know everything about everything like you do.Ann
I don't see Redshirt as "evil" (that's a conservative ploy) just a willingly
brainwashed, sad and lonely human being who cannot accept reality (overwhelming
support for the new administration).Yes, Virginia, there are still some
LOL!Redshirt making demands as if he sits in judgement of it all.This is typical of neocons and why they are doomed to self-righteous failure.
(except in Utah)LOL!
To "Anonymous | 3:26 p.m." and "re: Redshirt | 3:31 p.m." is that all you have?!
I bring out quotes, points of history and other such verifiable things, and
this is all you have to come back with?!
To: Anonymous @ 11:09 a.m."Dear RedShirt: I think you should
volunteer for South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford's re-election campaign.Your hypocrisy is perfectly suited for it."I am sure he
would be happy to do so but he is to busy trolling the internet and posting
nonsense. If he is going to be busy with Sanford's campaign then we will not
have the blessing of reading his long winded and moronic posts since he won't
have time to make any.Please don't leave us RedShirt. We are
enlightened by your posts and would sorely miss your wisdom, knowledge and
humor. We love to read your posts and hear your justify your evil votes for evil
people who agree with your evil opinions.I am sure our founding
fathers loved to read the op-eds of British voters who supported their right to
vote to harm Americans. I am sure that they truly enjoyed reading the rationale
for why Britain had the right to start wars of aggression that caused innocent
Americans to die.The modern day neocons and conservatives in Iran
and the U.S. would be at home in pre-Revolutionary Britain
Frederick Anderson wrote: "President Barack Obama is an angry man."Mr. Anderson, look in the mirror. It's called "projection," projecting your
feelings onto another person.
And the childish Limbaugh-sounding nonsense continues.
By the pathetic postings of neocons like RedShirt above, it must be agonizing
for the modern American conservative movement to have nothing to look forward to
in 2012 other than a Palin/Limbaugh ticket.This might explain their
non-stop weird nature.
While the addition of Palin to the Republican ticket excited many Conservatives,
it resulted in the defection of many moderates. Hard to see how the Republicans
can become a national party when their base support is so narrow.
Obama good, Bush bad... Corporations greedy, government good... America broken,
the rest of the world good... Conservatives bad, liberals good...A
pathetic and predictable discourse, as usual.
Oh the sour grapes and pity parties of writers like this...too funny. Anyone
who does not share his narrow view must be shown the door... too sad. Time to
grow up dear sir.
If you had payed any attention to the final results you would know that the
uptick when Palin was named was very short lived. As soon as most sane
republicans found out more about her they dropped like rocks is the polls. Nice
try though, you can now return to the hannity hour.
I get it now..."show him the door"! Right, like in he doesn't belong in the oval
office, he should be holding the door for the real POTUS. Ok, with that
corrected focus ask yourself what would have made people overwhelmingly both in
electoral and popular vote make your doorman candidate the new President?Only
the complete and total failure of his predecessor and the "loyalty above all"
defense of his record by his party. Get used to it.
Way to pat yourself on the back....(same Person)
To "Palin/Limbaugh ticket | 1:34 p.m." actually it was Republican trying to be
better "Progressives" than the Democrats that killed their party. If you
reviewed the last presidential race, McCain did better against Obama once he
added Palin to the ticket. That brought back many conservatives to consider
voting for him. If you paid attention to the campain, rather than
just sitting back and enjoying that tingly feeling that runs up your leg when
Obama speaks, you would have seen the reports.
With people like Redshirt speaking for the conservative movement, that movement
is clearly doomed.Keep up the good work Rush, er, I mean, Red.LOL!
You made some excellent points. I was a registered independent for
over 30 yrs, voting on both sides of the political spectrum. I became a
Democrat in 2006. It is sad to see what has become of the Republican Party.
When Republican leaders are apologizing to Limbaugh it is clear Republicans have
lost their way. How ironic that so many Mormons are Republicans when the
Republican presidential candidate was a divorcee and they rallied around the VP
candidate whose unmarried, teenage daughter was pregnant, while assailing the
family man, Barack Obama. What responsibility do Republicans take for the
past 8 years?
It's Utahan pontificate on presidential politics. It was funny when Rocky
Anderson protested against George Bush, and it's funny to hear the cries of
"socialism!" from the other side. Owing to our small population and
intransigent insistance on voting 'R' in all national elections, US presidents
only come here when they're Republican and in need of a friendly crowd to pat on
them on the back. Even then, they don't actually care about our opinions. And
why should they? Put briefly, Mr. Anderson's opinion doesn't matter
and neither does mine.
of the year!
@RedShirt:Certainly the "seeds" were planted after the turn of the 20th Century.
However, I was merely pointing out that Congress authorized this "sieze" under
TARP, which was under Bush's watch. This could have been avoided and let these
businesses fail if these bailouts never occured. At least Obama is standing up
for the taxpayer's money. And placing accountability squarely on the shoulders
of the CEOs.
Hey, Indiana, you sound pretty angry and hateful yourself.Take the
emotion out of it and listen to the argument, provide a reasonable justification
for what you believe, THEN we'll have something to discuss. Throwing words
around it easy, thinking and reasoning is hard
Do you think Bush didn't use a teleprompter. You could see his beady little eyes
squint when he was focusing in on a word. He would stutter and stammer and then
mispronounce the word that he most likely didn't know the definition of.
As the unemployment rate continues to rise, the stock and real estate markets
continue to flounder, with Federal deficits putting the next 2 generations in
massive debt, and with inflation looming on the near horizon, the next election
cycles will certainly measure the American people's satisfaction with Obama's
"hope and change."To all letter writers: If you want to make a
point effectively, stick to facts and logic. Labeling and name-calling won't
change anyone's mind--they tell more about the writer than the subject of the
Look at all Obama has done or can do: Raised the car industry from the dead,
calm the weather with his signature, give back our health with his promises, and
turn debt (water) into properity (wine). I was a doubter before, but now I know,
HE IS THE MESSIAH!!
The leftist posters on here would like to smother Redshirt. He just shines too
Anonymous of 11:09: Did you not read RedShirt say he is more inclined to vote
Libertarian? How do you get off saying he's hypocritical? He pointed out the
problematic Democrats. He didn't say there weren't any problematic Republicans.
By indicating his willingness to vote Libertarian, he isn't siding with the
Republicans. He's pointing out that both parties have their problems.
TO "Anonymous | 10:57 a.m." how about this. Obama is following Hoover and FDR
for this recession. Those two presidents did nothing to help the depression,
and actually made things worse.Hoover started massive infastructure
projects, which had no effect on the economy.Next, we had FDR and
his protectionist tarrifs, wage controls, price controls through the blue eagle,
the "Alphabet soup" government offices, and a host of other things intended to
make things better, which actually did nothing to help. Obama is doing nearly
the same things.Obama put into the stimulus act the "Buy American"
provisions, which are causing other nations to not-buy american at the same
time. Obama is enacting wage controls on any company that receives stimulus
money. He is adding or expanding existing government programs faster than FDR
built his "Alphabet soup" empire.The problem lies in the fact that
Europe didn't do what Hoover and FDR did, and, for the most part was done with
the depression by 1933. The US lingered in the depression until around 1939 or
1940. What I don't want to see is a repeat of the depression where massive
ineffective government programs were experimented with.
Why not show him the door by taking his teleprompter away, so whoever is behind
his words will just go away... ditto with his blackberry.
wrong with being angry at the America hating left.If I hear "at least give
this administration a chance" again, I am going to blow chunks!He has been
given a chance to show just how Marxist he is. Who would have guessed with his
associations and upbringing? He has spent our childrens future and thats just
OK with the ME crowd. Well the "chickens are comming home to roost" as one of
Obamas spiritual advisers once said.I say Prepare for that which is about
to come to the formerly most free country in the world.
Dear RedShirt:I think you should volunteer for South Carolina
Governor Mark Sanford's re-election campaign.Your hypocrisy is
perfectly suited for it.
Blind to their own myriad inadequacies. Blind to the current ruination caused by
their puppet Bush. I would like to see them offer up a candidate that we could
be proud of, but every one they can find is a bigger joke than the last. See
"Replacements" comment above.The GOP as we know it is dead...stinking. It
is an empty, mindless, lost shell of it's former self.The few remaining
stragglers can offer up nothing and no one of substance, so they throw darts at
the current administration.Weak, embarassing, and completely
predictable.RIP GOP. You are gone. Valueless, insignificant, passe, trite,
rotting, without merit.You had your chances for 8 years, and all we did
was slide further into the abyss. Thanks a lot GOP.We have seen your work,
and it benefits few, and hurts many. You lost. Now go sit in the corner and be
quiet.Good riddance. Now leave us alone as we clean up your mess.BB
you may want to go back and read the letter the letter writer is the one that
used the word hate to begin with in reference to Obama. You can't through stink
bombs then get made if you come out smelling bad. you may also want to
read hear hear's post.
Sorry, but don't have anything in rebuttal - folks like you are hopeless.
"...shown the door....", let's just wait til the next presidential election or
better yet, let the President serve this great country under very trying
circumstances. Have we forgotten the Who's Who that put us in this inherited
To "Gordon | 10:20 a.m." the UAW has a higher labor cost per hour than the
non-UAW plants. There are studies out that show that both make about the same
amount of money per hour. The problem lies with the union and union rules.Within the UAW, if a worker's job it to put the knobs on a dash board,
that is all that worker can do, even if it takes him 4 hours to do what the UAW
quota says he can do in 8 hours. In a non-union job a worker could put knobs on
cars for 4 hours, then head over to lug-nuts on tires. The non-union worker
could do more in an 8 hour shift than a single union worker. This alone saves
on the cost of a car. Then, you add in the union mandated benefits that are
better than what the engineers receive, and in the end, unions add about $2000
to the price of a new car. So, for UAW manufacturers to compete with non union
companies they have to cut corners and lower quality.
Conservative economics like the Commodities Futures Modernization Act created
Enron and the recession. It was Phil Gram. Once conservatives dis a
great job passing the blame for Nixon's recession on Carter and their "Arkansas
Project" even had Limbaugh's listeners believing the Clinton's murdered Vince
Foster.Today conservative liars are trying to stick Obama with their
depression. They know their willing idiots well. Play on hate. Come up with
stupid stories about birth certificates. Name calling works. Conservatives, like
school children, love to name call. Play race:"the first affirmative action
president."If he's articulate call him an elitist. If Obama is
popular call him a messiah. Call the willingness to talk being weak. What if
Mormons had just talked at Mountain Meadows first?Fairness is bad.
Being intelligent is suspect. Evil can and does distort good to be bad and
strives to morph bad to like good. Once Mormons encouraged
intelligence, education and you were taught to be elite at whatever to did in
"Show Obama the door"The modern American conservative movement has
made sure the DOOR (to the White House) was wide open.Thanks to the
monstrosity of the last 8 years.And as GOP guy Colin Powell wisely
pointed out, that door will again be open in 2012 as the world sees how awful
the conservative movement is and reject them even more thoroughly than in 2006
and 2008.Thank God!
Gallup results from the 2008 election show that Republicans lost votes in all
demographics. Notably, college-graduates, Midwesterners, 18-29 yr olds, and
moderates. Since a lower percentage of blacks support the Republican Party in
general, the fact that some blacks switched support from Republican to
Democratic was not as signficant as other demographic groups. Obama
will be the first one to accept responsibility for mistakes. But one can't
ignore the fact that the condition of the country he assumed responsibility for
was far different than the one Bush assumed responsibility of. Only a fool
expects a 6 mon turnaround.
Frederick Anderson sounds like an angry man too.
Obama should be shown the door, along with Reid, Pelosi and all of the hating
liberals now in charge. Let's hope more of us wake up before Fuhrer Obama and
his hacks destroy our country beyond repair.
Gus: You told me so many new and important things about Obama. Things that
certainly make me agree with you! After reading your letter I put my house up
for sale on craigslist, shifted what little investments I have left into gold
and purchased tickets to a stable off shore Caribbean state to live. By the way,
is that cake chocolate?
You perpetuate the myth that NY Time Financial analyst, Andrew Ross Sorkin,
first wrote about in that auto workers making $70 an hour. Media Matters for
America reports that the $70 figure includes" health care, the projected cost of
future benefits but also benefits paid to current retirees." Strange that none
of you right wing "I -am- a- real- American" types ever mention that GM
executives are paid obscene salary and benefit packages for companies that fail
to perform. Who is the real culprit? The CEO of GM, G. Richard Wagoner, made
$24 million in each of the last two years while running the company into the
ground, and go a 33% increase in his base salary for this year. Alan Mulally i
of Ford made $21.4 million plus $750,000 in family travel. Chrysler would not
disclose Robert Mardelli's salary which is surely in the same range. The
average GM worker makes about $28 an hour and as Felix Salmon writes " I can
assure you that GM is not paying $42 an hour in health insurance and pension
plan contributions." Even less with the shift of health care to UAW trust funds.
Let the truth beknown.
To "Replacements | 9:39 a.m." lets see if the Democrats have had any better in
recent history.We have the community organizer that used
discrimination laws to sue banks to either make the bank leave that area or else
give out bad loans, contributing to the current crisis.We have the
canidate that got his purple hearts as quickly as he could in Vietnam for minor
injuries that most soldiers just brushed off.We had the canidate
that has positioned himself to make billions of dollars off of global
warming.We have the ex-president that was disbarred in his home
state with a sex addiction.Then there is the former KKK member.The VP canidate that had an affair (which produced a child) with a
campain staffer, and made his fortune suing Doctors and winning using junk
science.How about the guy that was in charge of writing tax codes
that couldn't pay the proper amount of taxes.The point is that if
you want to say that there is nothing good in the Republican Party, look at what
the Democrat Party is filled with first.Granted, I am probably more
inclined to vote libertarian now than_I_was_before.
why is it that every time someone has an opinion that is against obama it is
discarded as hate? this is the only reason he won the election everyone kept
using the hate card. if you don't vote for him, you are a racist. i am sick and
tired of this stupid, ignorant and uneducated baseless argument. let's look at
this another way. in many states obama won over 90% of the african american
vote. should we start calling blacks racist for not voting for mccain? racism
works both ways, not just whites towrds blacks. so if your going to play the
hate card, i call your bluff. the racism in the elction was directed towards
whites. as for obama himself, i a proud to live in a country with the freedom we
enjoy despite my disappointment in the people's wisdom in this matter. no more
bush bashing. the mistakes obama are m aking are his own and as has been pointed
out, more and more people are starting to realise it.
This is one of the stupidest letters that the DN has printed in a long time.
This guy certainly hasn't been listening to Obama -- or anyone else for that
matter. He's obviously isolated in his own paranoid hate-filled little
world.Obama has turned out to be remarkably centrist and is
certainly devoted to the best in the American tradition. For heaven's sake --
just listen to the themes he keeps emphasizing.Fred-- get a grip, or
Let's not think what the "Founding Fathers" opinion would be today. Let's focus
on the problems at hand. I didn't vote for Obama, but we should give him a
chance to get "His" plan in motion. It's way to early to show him the door.
Their have been Presidents that abused their power and are revered today. Nixon,
Reagan, Clinton, W, come to mind.
Why when President Bush was in office was it OK to criticize, call him names,
etc? Now that Mr. Obama is in office the Left demands that he be respected and
allowed to do his job. Hypocrisy?
OK. Which Republican should we replace Obama with?A) The one that had an
afair in Argentina?B) The one that had an affair with a staffer?C)
The one that solicites sex in the men's room?D) The one that allowed her
daughter's boyfried to sleep over and get her pregnant?
I said a prayer for Obama this morning that he would be guided and inspired in
helping our nation. And that he would be able to stay clear of the hatred of
people like this letter-writer who are motivating the unbalanced among us to
shoot people they don't agree with.
I see no reason to close the facility in Cuba. The letter writer belongs there.
The last 8 years the country was run into the ground with tax breaks for the
mega-rich, incentives to move businesses overseas, disappearance of anti-trust
laws ... a CEO's dream come true (at the expense of the rest of us).And the neocons STILL think all of this is just swell.LOL!
Its not a matter of "you are sore loosers" or "give him time to fix the mess."
No more excuses! Bush was a fool for leaning left on fiscal matters, especially
when the leftist congress was there to push our economy over the edge. Where
was the veto pen? I guess Bush, who was so hated by libs, was really a lib
himself. But you have to hate somebody.Lets see, Obama has increased the
debt by a multiple of 4. He did this in 6 months and he is not even started.
What does this say about the world our children will grow up in. We trust Obama
to make sure the most innocent among us are executed, ( the unborn ). and now we
trust this benevolent King to be compassionate with our health care and our
Not only that, but Obama sometimes doesn't coordinate his clothes particularly
well and comes off as a "less than" snappy dresser. Granted his style still is
far superior to many, but there are times where his tie is a bit askew
indicating that he doesn't belong in the White House. It is really his way of
secretly signaling to the socialists that he is one of them.When he
smiles, the sides of his mouth are turned up a slightly in a snear, indicating
the contempt he holds American people. He doesn't smile like that when he talks
to his dictator friends. It is doubtful that he brushes his teeth
with a non-fluoridated tooth paste. Like any com-symp-lover, his use of
toothpaste containing flouride (and probably tooth whitners to boot!) confirms,
in no uncertain terms, that he is really a foreign agent who will take American
down.We are in are last days being a free nation with this charlatan
in office. This arugula-eating, America-hating fraud even has been know to
pronounce the word "To-MA-toe" in contradiction of real, freedom-loving
Americans. Talk about arrogance. He takes the cake!
To "DBG | 9:06 a.m." did it really start under Bush, or was it Clinton, or
Carter, or Nixon, or FDR, or Teddy Rosevelt. They all planted the seeds for
what we are now seeing.From the creation of the Federal Reserve, to
having the Federal Government become a bank that loans money to people who
didn't qualify, to pushing those loans.The point is, if you follow
the breadcrumbs back far enough you will find that it is government policies
that have created the mess we are in. Now, do we trust the people who create
the problems to solve them?
I have to laugh at Libdumbs saying Bush made his friends rich. How ironic. Do
any of you Kool Aid drinking lefty's realize that the auto unions are the cause
for the decline of the American auto industry? When the average worker earns
over 60K per year to stand in a line an place knobs on a dashboard, and then
wont concede when they are about to lose their industry, and Obamas answer is to
throw more money at them, he is pandering to his buddies and voting bloc, rather
than show some cajones and force them to either cut some salaries and perks or
go belly up. So now the American tax payer gets soaked for keeping his people
fat and happy. Wake up Libdumbs! Obama is no better than your nemesis Bush, in
fact he is worse for this country becuase of his irresponsible fiscal blowout
that we cannot possibly hope to support!
Too bad a course on Jimmy Carter wasn't taught in the schools, then there would
be more understanding of what is taking place, and the end results. It's all
been done before. We've had the 'green cars' before, they just didn't call them
'green'. Datsun, Toyota, etc. etc. We had a little french one that you could
push off the ferry when it refused to start. Death traps on the highway. "Green buildings" too. Chapels without windows, shorten windows in others.
Gas saving 55 miles an hour on the freeways. Been there, done it, and had to
suffer through it. Too bad we have to repeat this kind of history. It's like the
ad on the radio of the mom trying to tell a teen the dangers of drinking, they
just keep repeating, "I Know, I Know." Well you Obama sycophants, prepare to
"President Obama is handling one of the worst economic crisis" There is the
problem. HE should not be handling this WE should! The less the government does
the better off we will be.
@michaelh: Sorry pal, that's incorrect. This all started under Bush's watch.
Congress passed TARP which gave authority to "seize" these entities. You are
blaming the wrong person.
It is pathetic to see the modern American conservative movement willingly
slipping further into the slime and muck each day.They either don't
know how Rush Limbaughish they come across, or they simply don't care.
The US Constitution is a very important and necessary document for our country.
But there is absolutely no way that this one document could have or should
reflect every possible issue, event or problem that this country has and will
face. The constitution is not a holy writ but it was a dang good start. So michaelh stop trying to tell us that this one document is all we should
live by. And if I remember correctly I believe we have had a Utah republican
czar or two. Democrats were not the only voters that put Obama into the
White House. Stop being so one-sided. Our country did not get into this
financial crisis in six months nor will we get out of it in six months. Give
this administration as least a chance.
I wish the DesNews would publish more substantive letters as opposed to those
that just engage in ad hominem nonsense. What basis does the writer have for
saying that Obama "disdains America and everything it stands for" or is not
"dedicated to freedom and equality"? It's one thing to disagree with the
specific policies of the President, but to assert--without basis
whatsoever--that he is actively anti-American and deliberately wants to "punish
America" is ridiculous and does not deserve to be published. Save the space for
someone who at least criticizes a policy or voices their disagreement in
There are various reasonable and decent methods of showing the door to elected
officials:You wait 'til the next election and elect someone else.You impeach for some sufficient reason. The Senate must be prevailed
upon to initiate these proceedings, and must prevail.Other ways to,
symbolically at least, "show him the door" would be through a majority of the
Congress opposing one or more of his desired goals. This may be because he
exceeds their own limits, or because the Congress actually disagrees with some
key aspect of his agenda, or responds to a public outcry against some program or
law promoted by the President.
Bush good, Obama bad... Corporations good, government bad... America good, the
rest of the world bad... Conservatives good, liberals bad...A
pathetic and predictable discourse, as usual.
Obama was elected by the America. How were you going to "show him the door"?
Another incoherent unhinged rightwinger drunk on the wine from sour grapes.
To Paranoid Far Right Wingers: Attention! Attention! President Obama gets to
tell the US auto industry what to do, because our representatives voted Detroit
a fat bailout, for which in return we the people now own a majority of GM! For
too long Detroit as dragged it corporate tail trying to keep change from
happening. Now it will! The Founding Fathers never wrote anything about Detroit
because they could not have conceived for such an industry. They mostly
embraced Tom Jefferson's idyllic social construct of a nation of independent,
self sufficient farmers. Michael: I don't think you can compare the giant
agribusinesses and millionaire farmers of California's central valleys with the
Kulaks. The kulaks were peasants, the subsidies these California agri-giants
receive put them in the regal class. Had Bush and Cheney not engineered this
economic crisis with weak bank regulation and wasted money on war in the Iraq,
President Obama and Congress would not be taking such historically significant
actions in the first place. I love your myopic view of the situation. It makes
me laugh! Please see a good optometrist, it make you feel better when you can
view reality without your distortions.
If we just gave this letter writer and everyone else a tax cut, we'd all be
happy! That's the GOP way!Go Bristol Palin! You go girl!
Why is it that whenever a DNews letter mentions "the founding fathers", I feel
the need to turn the page? I am sure the founders were nice guys and all, but
they were after all politicians and divided fiercely into partisan camps at
that. This letter trying to connect the fathers, the auto bailout and the
President takes the cake. Next.
I am beginning to think it is the democrats who have no minds. Falling at the
feet of Obama and worshipping his every word and deed. At least try and be
objective.I for one was very unhappy with President Bush and I am a
conservative. Just because Obama is different does not make him better. He
will destroy your freedoms and you are kissing his feet as he does it.
Ahhhh. The shoe is on the other foot now. Had we only been able to show Pres.
Bush-league the door so early in his tenure.....We would have hundreds of
trillions of extra dollars not frittered away on lies, un-needed wars, and
lining the pockets of his fat-cat Repub cronies. Sorry pal. Grin and bear
Re: orders from headquarters"Then what the [blank] would you
call "ordering" an illegal, immoral and unwinnable war?"That's
different. Ordering other people's children to fight and die in a preemptive war
against another country which did not attack us is fine but ordering a business
to do something or not get any government help is a horrible thing."Neocons have clearly lost their minds."Once you realize that they
are always right and that they can vote on who lives and dies then everything
will be fine. Also, make sure you don't go anywhere near their money. That's off
limits but they will tax us to their hearts delight and use our taxes to advance
their own interest and in the process they may even make sure a few thousand of
us die in wars of aggression so they have a higher chance of winning an election
the next time they vote.To sum up their position in one word: MEIf it doesn't have to do with them then it doesn't matter but if it
benefits them it is good and if a few thousand people die so be it.
Yo Fredrick, move along Rush will be on in a couple of hours!
It's too bad that Frederick does not buy into the whole democracy thing. There
was an election. The President won overwhelmingly. Frederick will have his
chance to vote for or against the President in 2012. Then America will choose
again. Frederick, that is democracy, the system we have. Your hatred is
palpable, evidenced by this letter and the others you have written. You might
want to reign it in, because, like it or not, the President is in office and
will remain so. Instead of viciously attacking, why don't you affirmatively
promote your own candidate for the next election. And explain why instead of
calling names and making completely false statements. Tyr it sometime. Maybe
you could actually study about our system of government, too.
Qualities like leadership and oratory skills are certainly to be seen as alien
in Utah. Put the tinfoil hat back on, they're coming to get you!
"President Obama "ordered" the car industry to make green cars. The Founding
Fathers called this tyranny."Then what the [blank] would you
call "ordering" an illegal, immoral and unwinnable war?Neocons have
clearly lost their minds.
Amen, amen and amen.He violates his oath of office nearly every minute.
What has the Obama administration done that is constitutional? All the Czars?
The seizing of the banks, manufacturing, financial take over, medicine, firing
CEO's , setting pay and bonuses? Where in the constitution is he given this
power? I can show you the articles that make what he has done and is doing
ILLEGAL. Is this the CHANGE you voted for Democrats? Power to the dictator? You
really want this? He is starving out the Californian farmers just like the
Kulak's were starved out of their farms in Russia. When are you going to wake
up? Look at Iran see how hard it is to get your freedom back once it is lost?
Someone clearly hates America but I am not sure its Obama. Why so much hate and
anger towards our fairly elected president or democratic voting process and the
majority of Americans who voted for him?
Mr. Anderson,We get it that you don't like President Obama. Many
Utahns don't. OK, fine, you're entitled to your opinion. The fact
remains that the "door" that the majority of American voters showed Mr. Obama
was the door leading into the White House. Deal with that fact. It's called democracy.I think he's doing a fine job as President.
President Obama makes this American PROUD once more. The arrogant thieves of
Bushco are GONE! There is hope for our country despite people like red-ranters
who entertain us with their letters to DES NEWS.
One and done, door closed and a lot of Americans will right the ship Left or
Right, even those that voted for the guy are starting to see the holes in his
agenda. Stay tuned!
When you say the founding fathers sought equality with the Declaration of
Independence. . .did that include their slaves? No? Oh. . so you are lying
then.When you are saying the president ORDERED the car industry to
change. . .how did he go about doing this? Pressure that they so richly need?
Well that isn't ordering. A president can't "order" the car industry to do that.
So you lied again.So why should anyone believe your silly opinions?
I have a feeling you are still hurting that your "team" lost so bad in November.
you are so right on all counts Frederick... too bad America was so stupid as
to buy into the "change" mantra imposed on them by the antry, hateful left.
The price was way too high and apparently going to go higher!
Don't we need green cars, isn't it in everyones best interest? We all have
bosses that tell us what to do everyday. Let's be fair here, President Obama is
handling one of the worst economic crisis we have had if not the worst. I
applaude him for getting the right things done at no one's expense and nearly
everyone's benefit. The auto makers should have been on top of this years ago.
Remember they didn't want to give up their private jets or make financial
concessions, they just got a little encouragement.
Wow ... I can't imagine that the Founding Fathers had much to say about the auto
industry, since cars didn't come along until much later. Take a chill pill. It's
going to take more than a few months to undo the untold damage to the U.S. that
Bush inflicted over the past eight years.