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Published: Monday, June 22 2009 1:27 a.m. MDT

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sheila

This idea is great .I wish that something like this would come here to CT. The children hang out or get in trouble because there is nothing to do. When a grogery store closed i hoped that someone would make something for the children but no we now have another store.New London /Groton area only has 1 skating rink,2 bowling alleys ,one duck pin,one regular bowling.thats all thats available for the kids.Good Luck to them with their club..........

Gary Moore

Any naive kid from Lehi who thinks hip hop is cool needs to take a tour of Oakland, to see just what the culture this music glorifies is really all about.

Heart is in the right place.....

BUT........ I'm gonna bet dollars to pesos that the type of kids that broke into their home to rob them blind aren't committing those types of crimes because there is a lack of cool clubs to hang out at. In fact, I'm gonna bet that the kids that robbed them blind aren't the clubbing type at all. That is the first problem. The second problem is that while their club is open until midnight, what are all those rowdy, hopped-up-on-caffeine-and-sugar teenagers going to do AFTER they leave the club? As a teenager, I got into most of my mischief AFTER midnight..... I'm not trying to be a naysayer, but reality to me says that a club isn't going to take the desire to commit a crime out of the type of thugs that would break into a home and steal everything in sight. I hope the best for this couple though. You gotta admire their desire to try to help the problem. Unfortunately, they're putting a band-aid on a cut that our justice(?) system continually opens wider by letting crimes go unpunished.

Kinda funny

While I whole heartedly endorse entertainment, but I guess there is a reason this isn't in the business section. I would be seriously surprised if a "hip" place or good business by Paige or Shawn. Not exactly Studio 54 material (and I mean in the hip way, not the sex drugs and rock and roll way).

Best of luck! I predict a gigantic goose egg.



Anonymous

I'm glad they make it clear no drugs or alcohol will be tolerated, but a club that gets teens hyped up on caffeine and hormones and then sends them off late at night probably won't keep the troublesome kids from being "bored." I promise the problem isn't boredom; there's plenty for kids to do - including everything from service projects to bowling allies that already exist for them to meet their friends at. The problem is kids who want to cause trouble with their down time, whose first thought at "boredom" isn't that they should go read a book or get a game night together, but rather that they should go find something to destroy.

The money may have been better spent at a organization that gives teens service projects to do, or that helps families turn out better kids.

The Math

Okay, to build on my previous post. Lets think about this.

$3500/month rent
$1500/month in expenses (utilities, salaries, incidentals) - complete guess but anyways

$5000 with 8 days the place is open per weekend (Fri & Sat) divided by $7/person is roughly $100 people per DAY that need to come to break even. Granted, there will be extra revenue with soda sales and red bull but sounds EXTREMELY aggressive to me.

Why does the Deseret News put these stories in there? I guess because I read them and think about them too much is the answer, but this is absolutely a train wreck of investment.

Chris

I would be interested to see a police officer's post on this issue, but from my personal experience, most home burglaries by youth in our area are drug-related. We need more drug rehab facilities for youth and neighborhoods need to institute neighborhood watch programs.

stop griping

What are you negative ones doing to help the problem? Stop griping and do something constructive like this family did.

Re: stop griping @ 10:21

Do something constructive? What exactly do you propose that we, as citizens, can do? The teens that are causing the crimes aren't going to be affected by the new club. They'll still go on committing crimes. A new club isn't going to make them change their ways. The idea that somehow having a new, hip club in town is going to make them see the error of their ways is ludicrous. Sure, the new club is going to give some teens somewhere new to hang out, but it's my gut feeling that the teens who are committing crimes aren't committing crimes out of "a lack of things to do" or "boredom". God bless this couple for their IDEA that this will somehow help solve the teen crime problem, but I'm about positive this isn't the solution. The solution, (and what I WOULD love to be a part of), is to punish teens for crimes committed. The obligatory slap-on-the-wrist isn't cutting it as evidenced by the overcrowded adult jail cells. If I could make the punishment more harsh for crimes committed, believe me I would. Therein lies the problem.

Solve crime?

I didn't read anywhere in the story that the couple hoped it would solve the problem of home burglary. They said that they wanted to spend their insurance money on something other than material things. I don't know why all you people think that this couple hopes to cut down the number of home burglaries?

ldsstandards

You say you wish to help kids but you will be playing and promoting the exact lifestyle,

music, lyrics, vides and more that create the problems in our society.And no its not just entertainment"!Proof is in the radio play lists just google any one of the local radio top 10's + the word, lyrics and video and you will find how vile and disgusting POP MUSIC is!
kuuu 92.5/92.1 fm
1 BLACK EYED PEAS Boom Boom Pow
2 GORILLA ZOE Echo
3 BABY BASH That's How I Go f/Mario
4 MAINO All The Above f/T-Pain
5 YUNG L.A. Ain't I f/Young Dro/T.I.
6 CHAMILLIONAIRE Creepin' f/Ludacris
7 MR. CAPONE-E Light My Fire
8 DOLLA Heatbreak Collision
9 DRAKE Best I Ever Had
10 JAMIE FOXX Blame It f/T-Pain & Yung Joc

VictorianCowgirl - Rock On!

Shawn & Paige have never said they were starting the club to solve the crime problem. You gripers need to get a clue and your facts straight.
Growing up in a small Utah town, I would have loved to have something like this to go to. Kids are going to listen to music, hang out with friends and gorge on junk food, all of which I might add they are doing anyway, why not have safe place to do it.
Good on ya, Shawn and Paige!

justthinking

Shawn and paige aren't trying to stop crime they are wanting somewhere the teens can go to have some fun because if you really look around in utah county for teens there is nothing but the movies its giving the kids something to do. They will be able to meet up with friends and dance and have fun times and get them off the street thats all its very simple. Kids getting togather to dance and have fun thats all nothing less nothing more sometimes i think people really need to stop being so negative. All this couple did was take some money and instead of spend it on stupid things they thought they would find a place for the kids to go that they could have good times and good memories and kinda somewhere the teens could call there own how hard is that to get? I don't understand how trying to help teens out to have a place to hang out turned into them trying to fight crime?

Great example

Whatever the outcome, what a better place this world would be if everyone thought less about themselves, just as this couple is doing.

It might be profitable, it might not, it might keep some kids out of trouble, it might not, but the more things we try to do, the better.

Kudos to this couple for their rare display of personal sacrifice and unselfishness for their community, especially when doing so after being victimized themselves. Quite the Christ-like attitude, if you ask me!

Negative influences

Today's pop culture is part of what is encouraging teens' bad behavior. Promoting that pop culture in such a club does nothing to negate that problem rather encourages it. There is no way I would trust my children to such an environment, not knowing what is being pushed on them. Include the peer influences in that mix and it lessens my opinion of the place even more.

This well meaning couple should use their resources to promote more family related activities, thus encouraging families to remain involved and active together. Promotion of these values will help children to make better choices and know that they're cared for, not just that there's yet another babysitting medium available.

MR MR

HMMMMMMM seems to me we as Americans need to go back to the old fashioned way of parenting, maybe like Dr. Laura believes if your going to have children the mother should be HOME!!!!!!!! Children breaking into homes is a parenting issue not a issue of starting up places for them to get into more trouble and also a place for them to meet girls/guys and get pregnant, yea that's just what we need is more young unwed mothers on government assistance!!!! Yea why don't we try parenting our children OR maybe NOT have any at all!!!!!! NUFF SAID!!!!!!!???????

DISCRIMINATION

"Admittance into the teen-only retreat requires two things: a school activity card verifying a student is in grades nine through 12, and $7."
Anyone else see a problem in the above statement, oh and it is not the $7. You must have a school activity card? I have no children so I have no idea what the card really is. But it raises some serious questions when I read the above statement. If youre a high school dropout, who should be in a grade between 6 and 12, shouldnt you be allowed into the club? Seems like discrimination if you dont let a person in for the sole reason of their education level. Please dont respond tiring to justify / make excuses why this discrimination is acceptable. No discrimination is acceptable, if you like it or not. Do home schooled people get school activity cards? Let me know what the activity cards really are, I tried to Google it didnt get a clean answer. Not a fan a discrimination where ever it might be so I had to point that out.

Re: Discrimination

I think I just discriminate against dumb people.

@1:53

A school activity card is essentially a school ID. I would be willing to bet they are asking for that because for a lot of children in 9th grade cannot get a driver's license and they are asking for proof of age. I seriously doubt a high school drop out would be barred from this club (if he/she wanted to go) if they could prove their age (high school age) with acceptable ID.

Re: Discrimination

"I think I just discriminate against dumb people"

Your comment makes it too easy. Who says who the dumb people are? I think that the above comment is one typically posted by dumb people. So now i guess your a dumb person.

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