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Published: Tuesday, June 16 2009 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Co2 levels have increased, that is correct, but the reality is that the air in the US is actually cleaner. Harmful emissions like SO2 (causes acid rain)and NOX (causes smog & ozone)that actually have an impact on public health are the lowest they have been in 40 years. Check EPA website for facts on SO2, NOX etc. Pretty cool stuff.


At least he's asking the question.

To the naysayers, this is a version of Pascal's wager. If we take precautions and it's not true then we've done no harm and have reduced our dependence on foreign oil. We've also saved ourselves lots of money.

If it is true well they're your children, which you claim to care so much about. They will have a much harder life than you have.

The earth will survive, we may not.

$4 gas is coming in any case. Have you watched the prices lately?


Consenus not!
I am a skepticGlobal warming has become a new religion. - Nobel Prize Winner for
Physics, Ivar Giaever.
Warming fears are the worst scientific scandal in the historyWhen people come to
know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists. - UN IPCC
Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical
Anyone who claims that the debate is over and the conclusions are firm has a
fundamentally unscientific approach to one of the most momentous issues of our time.
- Solar physicist Dr. Pal Brekke, senior advisor to the Norwegian Space Centre in Oslo.
Brekke has published more than 40 peer-reviewed scientific articles on the sun and solar
interaction with the Earth.
Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting
warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined. - Atmospheric
physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in


Key points that 700 international scientists argree and say about global warming.
1) The Earth is currently well within natural climate variability.
2) Almost all climate fear is generated by unproven computer model predictions.
3) An abundance of peer-reviewed studies continue to debunk rising CO2 fears and,
4) "Consensus" has been manufactured for political, not scientific purposes.

Taken from the U.S Senate Minority report, last update March 16, 2009

Now We're Talking!!!

Thank goodness someone has the guts to raise a voice against the political winds trying to force man-made global warming policies down our throats. Being a mechanical engineer, I've studied the greenhouse gas issue. As I've considered the Second Law of Thermodynamics and heat transfer mechanisms in this debate, they are in disagreement with the theory of have man-made global warming due to carbon dioxide or other so-called Green House gasses. Let there be a scientific debate on the issue!!! As it stands, politicians have nothing to lose if they support the erroneous theory because if it turns out to be false, they can simply blame the scientists.

Yea to Governor Herbert!


No one cares what a former Utah county politician thinks about global warming...er I mean "climate change" (to use GOP code). People do care however what the governor of our State thinks. Most decisions that face adults are not of the black and white variety but requiring weighing the pros and cons and making an informed decision. Herbert owes it to Utahns to study the issue and hear from the best minds on both sides of the issue. As one of the "not totally convinced" attendees put it, "when I am not sure of something, I buy an insurance policy just in case."

Clean the world up anyway!

Anyone who has ever been to the Wasatch Front should agree on global pollution or global warming, whatever you want to call it. I personally believe that global warming has been over hyped but lets clean the earth up! How anyone living in Utah or SL counties dares take a breath is beyond me. Sorry but it is no FAIRY TALE that Utah is becoming a polluted state, plus our right wing friends want to bring in nuclear waste from other states and countries to contribute to our ever growing waste dump of a state. The reason people want to come to Utah is for the natural beauty, I doubt that will be the case when we are know for nuclear waste dumps and the only state with more pollution than LA. Wise up Utah!

skeptical scientist

The science is not conclusive about human caused global warming AND we're not yet as warm as we were during the time of Lief Erickson.

Remember from history? He's the guy who grew wine grapes in Greenland while the other Vikings sailed small wooden ships from the Atlantic to the Pacific through clear water. That's right folks, the polar ice was probably completely melted in the time of Lucky Leif.

Why then, one might ask, do we still have polar bears? Where did they live while there was no pack ice? The answer of course, as already noted, is that nature finds a way.

When I was in college the big "crisis" was chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs). They were supposed to deplete the ozone layer that protects us from deadly solar radiation. So we gave up certain refrigerants and aerosol propellants. THEN Mt. Pinatubo erupted in the Phillipines and in a single week put more CFCs into the atmosphere than humans had in a century. The scientific consensus was wrong. Humans are like dust on the planet.

How arrogant we are to believe that the planet even notices us on geological time scales.

all about the $

Yes, there are climate change deniers just as there are those who deny smoking causes cancer. But does anyone really contend that we are too ignorant to make policy decisions!? Lt. Governor Herbert confuses lack of unanimity with lack of consensus. If we wait for 100% agreement we wait forever (to the advantage of those who profit from the status quo). Are we really debating causation or is this about who will profit and who will pay?


Thank you for speaking truth in the midst of a horrible effort by the socialist extremist environmentalists to silence any decent. You earned my vote and my support by your unapologetic and honest approach. Yahoo, I'm glad for Gov Huntsman and his new opportunity in China, but I'm even happier to get a Governor who reflects the values of mainstream Utah!


Grover, I think Herbert actually was quoted as saying this, "But again I'm going to be very slow to make radical changes. I'm going to listen, and I'm going to learn."

Beware that liberal fanatical religion does affect your comprehension skills.


When you aren't sure of something you buy an insurance policy if the cost isn't prohibitive. Also, how many potential risks out there do you have insurance for? Personally I have life, health, home and auto insurance. I didn't buy Y2K insurance when all computers were going to stop working according to the mainstream press, and I'm not buying the phoney Global Warming insurance which will just be another step toward total Governmental control by the Socialists.

Wake up and do some research and realize this whole effort is a joke.

Don't confuse him with facts

Herbert is a realtor and having just completed a new home purchase I can say with conviction that realators are not scientists! Don't confuse the man with facts. Fact number one is that Utah is polluted to the point of having some of the worst air quality in the US. Watch out China, Utah is not content with having the worst air in America, we want the worst air in the world!

Re; Michael

"I am not a scientist - I am a pragmatist. I believe in what I can see, touch and feel."

Good. Then go and Google "UAH global temperature anomaly" and you'll see that according to satellite measurements the earth's surface temperature has remained virtually unchanged over the past 20 years, aside from a spike in 1998.

The average surface temperature of the earth today is almost identical to what it was 20 years go. Despite the fluctuations there has been no net global warming since then.

To YAHOO! @ 8:37

"...I'm even happier to get a Governor who reflects the values of mainstream Utah!"

Ahh... "Mainstream Utah Values."

What are they?

Disdain for education, reason and expert opinion.

Willful, stubborn refusal to pay attention to, or even acknowledge, objective evidence.

Labeling anyone who's opinion you disagree with as "socialist!"

Taking AM radio know-nothing (but proud of it!)blowhards more seriously than decades of careful research conducted by eminent scientists.

Yep - those are all good ol' "Utah values."


Most scientist used to believed that the earth was flat, most scientist used to believe in Dawins theory. Scientist have been wrong on many important issues throughout history and they are wrong on the issue of global warming as well. If you put ice into a glass of water, when it melts, does the water level rise or does it stay the same. Are you smater than a first grader, Al Gore isn't.


You don't set public policy (that will cost us unknown trillions of dollars and opportunity costs that can't be quantified) based on a theory that MANY scientists don't even agree with. That would be really stupid.

Good for Gary Herbert.

Pollution vs Global Warming

I'm sure we all agree that we don't want to breathe pollution, and that we should be doing what we can to reduce pollution as technology develops. Global Warming/Climate Change is a new enough issue that we don't know enough about it to know whether we should even be concerned or not. The thing we do know for sure is that our seat-of-the-pants "solutions" will costs a lot of money, and won't change things significantly on a global basis. We must also remember our government (us) has been using other people's money for a long time. Maybe we can spend more of our children's money? Maybe our grandchildren's?

Breaking News!

Rational people everywhere recognize that there is an enormous amount of peer pressure to agree with warming advocates and that the "overwhelming number of scientists who agree" with them is the the same argument our children make to us by saying, "all the kids in the neighborhood have x-boxes."

Just saying the words doesn't make you right. Neither does scoffing at the opposition.

Dr. Booty

Oh thank Heaven, for Gary Herbert. Finally, we will get a governor who refuses to bow down to the "Green-Weenies". (Unlike Huntsman)
I applaud our new governor. He knows what we all have known for too long: There isn't any such thing as "Man-Made" Global Warming; this is just a fraud invented by the Leftist's.

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