Reader comments
Artifact thefts targeted by federal officials
105 comments | Read story
However, we have tens of thousands of people here in UTAH (and many millions nationwide) who have broken federal laws prohibiting entering the U.S. without permission. Worse, a number of these illegal aliens are dealing drugs, and engaged in violent crimes.
Why are the FBI and the (chronically grandstanding) U.S. Attorney Brett Tolman wasting time on folks picking up arrowheads in the middle of nowhere while illegal alien criminals are roaming our streets committing new crimes.
WHO SETS THE PRIORITIES?
I grew up on a ranch in the southwest and am too familiar with rifle-bearing pothunters who would desecrate sites with backhoes, taking what they wanted and destroying the rest, including graves. This was done all in the name of profit, and folks would trespass on private property and federal lands to do it. Pothunting is not a passive hobby; it is a serious blackmarket business that robs us of our shared national heritage.
How about we dig up some of the old Mormon pioneers graves in southern Utah to get some good stuff to sell?
Using the values of rural Utah if you park your car and leave it, they have a right to steal it. This makes one wonder where they were taught values!
Yes, there are many that have artifacts in their homes, but the vast majority of these have been obtained on their own private property. You need to understand that this area has THOUSANDS of ancient ruins. They are literally everywhere. A great many of these sites exist on private property.
Most people in the Four Corners area are EXTREMELY protective of this area and the natural and historic treasures that are here. Unfortunately, a few people may have betrayed the trust and looted these sites. THAT IS A CRIME. If these people are guilty they should be prosecuted. that remains to be seen. LET'S WAIT AND SEE HOW EVERYTHING PLAYS OUT.
Yes, there are several local families who have been doing this for generations
but they're breaking the law. Let's not forget that. Small town politics and name dropping isn't going to work this time.
This local is very pleased with todays outcome and will be very interested to see what happens next.
But these are only a fraction of the people in San Juan County. The vast majority of San Juan's people are law abiding citizens. The "Redd" family has thousands of members of various lines so we can't blame it on a family or two. We also don't know the religion of any of these folks or whether they go to church or not. I'll judge people by their actions--not their geography, surname or religion.
In the eighties a prominent couple in Blanding had their home raided and they were arrested for having artifacts. It turned out they had obtained every one of them legally. We have to see how this thing plays out. There may be some extenuating circumstances.
Anyway, PLEASE people let's not turn this into a Mormon thing. IT'S NOT.
But to be out on public lands and happen upon a broken, or chipped arrowhead or piece of pottery or a bead from an ant pile, I don't feel there should be anything illegal about it!
To the archelogist, an arrowhead, a pot or other artifact is significant, but where it was found, what was around there, sometimes even the vegetation is important in putting the puzzle together.
Go down to the store, buy a puzzle, reach in and randomly trow away some of the pieces. Now put the puzzle together ... sometimes it will make sense and other time you may wonder what was on those missing pieces.
I complement the authorities for working togethe to find and arrest these criminals. I hope the court systems follows through with other than a slap on the wrist and leaves the message that crime does not pay.
There are a lot of great people in SEUtah, some BAD ones!
So how many pieces of the puzzle did our government throw away. This individual and others bragged and showed then sold artifacts dug up at the Poncho House. This one is on the Navajo Reservation. The Navajo's should be relaxed knowing our government is raiding their ruins to protect the ancestors. I wonder if the Indians on the television have been informed of this disaster. I think not. So many pieces of the puzzle left or lost with out the truth
If these people have obtained and sold these items illegally, they should be prosecuted and convicted. However, it's going to be pretty hard to prove. I also think that if they are convicted they should probably pay fines and not be incarcerated. I think some of this stuff can get a little crazy and unreasonable nowadays.
I know of sites where ancient human remains are sticking out of the sides of cliffs just eroding away. No one tries to rebury them because the Indians don't want anyone to touch them--not even to preserve them. So they are just deteriorating away and soon will be gone. Kind of illogical, huh.
To lump this groups together and say they all did the same bad things is just not true. Some are Pothunters and burial robbers, some are collectors of artifacts, and some, in contrast, are mearly arrowhead hunters. I'm sure they will all be held accountable for their appropriate actions. This battle has been going on for years between the "feds" and "a few" residents of San Juan Co. To say they all break the law and lay claim to San Juan Co. is just not true. This problem is not specific to one family name and the LDS church has nothing to do with this, and for my Native American brothers to say they are above reproach on this issue....I know better, but I don't blame you all!
And it all comes down to the fact that they did break the law. Two of them have already gone through this and they didn't learn their lesson the first time around. I think they are cash strapped even being a physician because his wife was always pushy trying to sell some sort of health products even if you didn't want it.
Can't get simplier than that!
Now, having said that, the artifacts are priceless and it is illegal to take and sell them. People need to learn to treat these sites with respect and the vast majority of people in San Juan County do.
If these people are guilty they need to be held responsible. However, it might be pretty hard to prove in court that these items were not found on private lands or that they weren't found prior to the enactment of the law.
Let's wait and see just how well the cases hold up in court.
Add your comment
Comments are monitored. Any comments found to be abusive, offensive, off-topic, misrepresentative, more than 200 words or containing URLs will not be posted.
E-mail address: For internal use only. We may want to contact you to publish your comment (not your e-mail address) in the newspaper or for a separate story idea.
- Dad locked kids in trunk 1:46 p.m.
- Korver's return hits snag 12:59 p.m.
- Salt Lake City woman shot 12:53 p.m.
- Woman suffers critical injury 12:50 p.m.
- China vows to slow emissions 12:18 p.m.
- Baseball player on mission in Wash. 12:10 p.m.
- Foundation for LDS young women 12:10 p.m.
- Robotic hamsters are the new craze 11:47 a.m.
- Man trapped in Nutty Putty cave dies 11:27 a.m.
- Prevent problems by spaying dogs 11:01 a.m.
- Man trapped in Nutty Putty cave dies
- Cave rescuers committed to free man
- Holiday television program listings
- Rivalry has had some 'turkeys'
- Temple Square to use LEDs
- Twitterati to BCS: 'We hate you.'
- Highland players make special friend
- Howard made the rivalry a rivalry
- Missions teach players perseverance
- Syracuse woman gets 1 year in jail
- BYU would like friendlier rivalry
261 - Glenn Beck to enter politics?
227 - Protests against Phoenix LDS temple
210 - RSL wins MLS Cup on penalty kicks
202 - Bronco, Kyle rubber match
139 - BYU records with win
133 - Letters: Rushing to judge Palin
131 - Thunder rolls by Jazz
125 - Boys basketball rankings
114 - Editorial: Poor welcome for Palin
112
Can't wait to see broken kitties...
Glad it was only a "harmless" uninvite. This will tighten things up some and...
last night? That was film making (great acting, plot, suspense and that...
She really has you scared doesn't she? why else would you be so vocal about...
Caitlyn sounds like a wonderful person. Kudos to her for her acts of kindness!
Perfect! No more stinky cages to clean.
To Anonymous at 1:08. I know some pretty hefty 18 year olds who would have no...
Unless you are a professional breeder you should get your pet spayed or...
I heard it was pretty good - despite what the reviewer thought.. can't trust...
he just pledge to solve cancer and world hunger while he's at it? I mean,...



