Get rid of boozer if nothing else just to not hear him whine any more and to get
someone that will play the way is always should have been playing. Also keep
Brewer and millsap, get rid of AK,knight,harpring and play the centers that we
have already and use them instead of leting them rought on the bench or in the
I'd take a high school players defense over Boozers. Get him outta here!
Hey Steve O everybody waiting for Real's latest loss coming up to my Galaxy hee
hee hee hee Kreis great anyway Plan A Plan B With SLoanie and his "holics"
trade AK because like oil and water cant work.... A new Coach AK can stay
then get rid of Okur This will get us in right direction
Even if Boozer opts out and leaves by himself the Jazz are going to be paying
luxury tax. Unless Korver or Okur opt out too and we get nothing for them.These numbers could be a bit off because I'm not able to look up the exact
amounts but....DWILL- $15 MilAK- $17 MilOkur- $9
MilMillsap $8 Mil (Detroit said it will offer 8-9
million for him)CJ- $3 MilHarp- $5 MilKorver- $5 MilPrice- $1 MilFes- $1 MilKoufus- $1 MilBrewwer- $2
MilBoozer GONECollins GONEKnight GONEAlmond
GONEThats $67 million already in contracts and that's only 11
players. So they'd have to pick up another 3-4 players. The Jazz are going to
have to do some MAJOR wheeling and dealing to stay under the cap even if Boozer
goes for NADA!
I can't take the Jazz seriously if Boozer is on the team. He's such a joke.
The Jazz have taken the Okur/Boozer experiment as far as they can take it. It
generally gave them 50 wins and a second round playoff exit. The year they made
it to the Western Conference Finals was a bit deceiving. The Warriors beat an
overhyped Dallas team, and the Jazz were able to capitalize on that. We saw
against the Lakers this year the huge deficiency the Jazz have: "NO INSIDE
DEFENSIVE PRESENCE". In Boozer's defense, it's hard to effectively guard other
4's and 5's when he's giving up three or four inches on them. Long term if the
Jazz want to compete against the contenders, they need talented, true big men.
Let's hope the Knicks stink it up next year so the Jazz can draft a great young
PF/C in the 7 foot range. In the short term, let Boozer walk and sign Millsap
for about $8 million. He will give similar offensive and rebounding stats, and
DW2RB | 3:23 p.m. June 10, 2009Um, Apollo, the Jazz have a
shotblocking SF already.His name is Andrei Kirilenko.DW2RBNo i'll think you'll find that overpaid, emotionally fragile
stick figure: Andrei Kirilenko has not provided us with the shot-blocking SF
that the Jazz are paying maximum salary for! Bring in Marion, and get rid of AK.
Marion would provide more than just shot blocking. He would bring better
shooting ability, a more focused head and the abilty to finish alley-oops from
Get rid of Kirilenko! Then we can do whatever we want with Boozer's contract.
That was the worst move ever!
@Millsap will get | 9:02 p.m. June 8, 2009I agree with all
statements made in the above post. However, the other side of this is what
Boozer wants. And he does get to pick whether he opts in or not.1.
Get an offer from another club to match or exceed the current pay from the Jazz,
so he can just opt out - NOT LIKELY2. Get the Jazz to do sign and
trade - more likely but depends on other teams3. Barring any of the
above, opt in the last year of contract and play like it's your contract year
(remember AK, Millsap, Price?) - they all play better during the contract
yearsThe latter is really the last resort because (1) it's more work
for Booz - he actually has to show up and compete; and (2) the Jazz can trade
him to a team looking to free up some cap space willing to take on an expiring
contract.So, Booz is right - mostly the ball is in Jazz' court on
this one. And I agree with the post at 9:02 PM - no need to rush at all.
I agree with Trade Proposal but the salary cap of both player are about 25
million dollar in next seasons. It is very crazy for Rocket to get it and they
do not want PF because they have Scola.
Um, Apollo, the Jazz have a shotblocking SF already.His name is
I played 2 years at Sacramento State in college and played for the Philadelphia
76ers summer league team a couple years in a row but never quite made the pro's.
I grew up a big fan of Utah because of Karl Malone. I play power forward and
am from Louisiana myself. I think the Jazz should trade Boozer and Kirilenko to
Houston for Tracy McGrady and Carl Landry. This would improve Houston and it
would give the Jazz an expiring contract in Tracy McGrady. Who knows, maybe
T-Mac would even help the Jazz for a year in a 2 guard spot they need help from,
yet if he does not work out, you get Landry in return and Kirilenko off the
books. Houston is looking to deal McGrady anyway, so why not. I am not a
McGrady fan, but financially it makes sense and you get a possible good year out
of McGrady and you get Landry. Just sayin...
I am done watching pro sports. $12M is not enough for eight players to bounce a
ball? I have lost touch with the NBA and all other pro sports.
If Boozer does opt out, and the Jazz don't re-sign him, then who should the Jazz
bring in? I know there's been a lot of talk about a Chris Bosh, but that would
require a sign-and-trade. I like that idea, but otherwise which free agents are
there?What about allowing Millsap to start at PF, and with the cap
space gained by releasing Boozer, the Jazz sign unrestricted free agent Shawn
Marion. I know he's had some injury problems, but he could slot in at SF, DWill
could bring out the best in the Matrix, and he would provide a shot
blocking/defensive presence the Jazz so desperately need! What do you
I would accept Boozer back if he plays 134 games for the Jazz without being
paid. I know that he is not worth more than what he is being paid.
trade booze plus (who ever on the jazz except for millsap and dwill) to bosh
please!!!!and about AK... he has fat contract so it's hard for him
to be traded. Anyway AK47 atleast play defense!!!!
I am 57 years old and have always loved and played basketball, but paying
someone 12 million a year and him probably thinking it's not enough is exactly
what's wrong with the NBA. Players getting payed that much is just as
ridiculous as the over payed and over compensated Wall Street executives.
Get rid of Boozer. He is not an asset to the team, just a hindrance.
There simply will not be another circa $12mm bid for Boozer.
i'm excited to see Boozer out! I expect to see something new though in replace
of Boozer, not a power forward also, we already have Millsap in replace of
The reason you make the Boozer for Simmions, Najera and a first round
draft pick is so you can keep Millsap. That is the whole point. Simmons only
has one year on his contract so you can trade it fairly easy (I said trade it
for Kamen or Camby). Najera was only in for salary reason. How about Chris
Douglas Roberts. So you are getting AK, Williams, Millsap and Kamen/Camby,
Brewer as your starting 5. Kamen/Camby, Millsap and AK all averages over 1 block
a game. Then you have the 11 and the 20 pick in this draft. You could draft
Daye, Clark, Henderson with the 11th pick - Small forward, and Either PF or
Shooting guard with the 20th pick. Or you can keep Okur and just pay
the Luxury tax one year - This works if you trade Simmons for Camby. Your alternatives are to keep Boozer and Let Millsap or Okur go. Or just let
Boozer go for nothing.
If the Jazz lose Boozer, they will end up losing Williams in a couple years
also. When he's healthy, hes a great player. I do want to keep Milsap. Okur
needs to go. They should trade both him and Kirilenko and get some other
players that would contribute.
It is not the raise of salary that has Jazz fans bothered. It is how arogant
Boozer said it. "I'm gonna get a pay raise one way or the other". Does this
sound like a guy you would "give" a pay raise to? Just an idea. Work out all
summer with a great defensive player and get better defensively. Then those
remarks might just be justified. Even an idiot sees this.
Please take that wonderful smile to Detroit.
All Jazz Management has to do is publically tell boozer/loser that he comes off
the bench hehind Millsap and a draftee. His ego will help him move out of town.
The National Post quoted one Eastern Conference source who has scouted Bosh
extensively as saying Bosh "wasn't going to get any better." The numbers support
that assertion. His points, rebounds, and assist numbers have plateaued over the
last four seasons. So the question remains: Can you build a championship-caliber
team around Bosh when he commands 30% of the salary cap? It's possible, but
very, very unlikely. It's tough to tell a team that's only two seasons removed
from a 47-win campaign to "blow it up" and rebuild, but that's what I would do.
Chris Bosh is a very good player, but hes never going to be the leader on a true
I do not think korver, okur or boozer will opt out. I see milsap gettin a large
offer, and the Jazz will match it. But Boozer will be traded...I just don't see
how he couldn't. I think the jazz will part ways with boozer and AK this season,
purely on financial reasons and won't get anything in return for them, but will
end up with some extra cash in return. This off-season is looking pretty bleak,
and I think the jazz may be doing very little this summer, except keeping the
team together. Hopefully we can get Tyler hansborough in the draft,
he wouold bring a spark and a toughness to a team that desperately needs it. I
would like to see us keep the team together for one more, hopefully, healthy
season, and if no championship comes, than tear it down...but lets wait one more
year before dismantaling and reconfiguring.
If the Jazz are going to build around AK, Williams, Bosh, and Millsap. They
need to start by trading players for cheaper role players. For example Trade
Brewer for Courtney Lee. Brewer is a better defender, better around the basket
and overall a better player, but Lee is a better shooter, and he has 3 more
years on his rookie salary. 2010 Brewer is going to get around 5 to
7 million and the Jazz can't match that if they build around the big three you
have to make these movesTrade Okur to Detroit (who is way under the
cap) for a first round pick and Kwame Brown (4 million) Since Okur will make 9
million a year that only eats into 4 million of Detroit cap so they can sign a
couple other players. Kwame comes off the books is a solid
rebounder and the first round pick solid and cheap for 4 years. Jazz LineupWilliams, Price Lee, Miles, AK, Harpring
(Daye - Deroits pick)Millsap, (20th pick Hansbrough)Bosh, Brown,
If the Jazz trade for Bosh - Okur is gone. Even if the Jazz are going to pay
the Luxury tax next season they aren't paying 10 million over the cap. With AK,
Williams, Bosh, Okur, Millsap, you are looking at 65 million dollars. Harpring
is guaranteed 6.5 million 72 Million. Even if we combined Miles in the Boozer
trade and Korver opts out (5mil) we still have to fill out a 12 man roster - 80
million. That is 10 million over the cap which means the Jazz will have to pay
10 million in taxes and they loose out of about 4 million from other teams. As far as trading AK in 2010 - He might be easy to trade, but the Jazz
would have to take salaries equal to his salary of players for a longer period.
The Jazz would get good players, but it 17 million dollars of good players Only
teams trying to get out of their contracts would trade for AK. Actually, I like
AK as a player (over paid yes, but not utilized correctly. Look how Orlando
uses Turkoglu, they set picks for him every play. The Jazz never set AK a pick
" I would be a huge piece of us having the chance to win a
championship........and Deron Williams is a stud ball player" wow! You will
never be HALF the player D-Will is.... you shouldn't even mention your name in
the same sentence as his...PLEASE GET RID OF BOOOOOOOOOOZZER
Acquiring Najera, Simmons, and the 11th pick isn't going to solve anything
immediately. Neither player fits our system, and both are already on the
downside of their careers as decent role-players. Letting Millsap
and Okur walk isn't smart either. Camby and Davis are older and nearing the end
of their careers. Both left teams that improved in their absence dramatically
(Nene looked much better as a full-time center in Denver, while Miami improved
with rookie and 2nd-3rd year guys taking Davis' minutes). The Jazz would be
smart to work on shoring up their outside shooting and getting someone like
Martin Gorcat to back up Okur so the defense improves in the 2nd unit.
I'm sick of it. Just opt out Carlos because the Jazz are not going to pay you
more and a long term contract! If I could find someone to bet with I am betting
he is just hoping someone will get silly and sign him long term for more than
he's making now and that he will sign with Miami for less than he is making now.
Any takers? Just watch!
RE: BlauchGood stuff. You're one of the few that has actually
thought out this Bosh trade. I think the Jazz can make it happen because Miller
did say he's willing to go into the luxury tax to keep Millsap. Bosh makes 3 million more than Boozer so is it possible for the Jazz to
package CJ Miles or something to drop more payroll? Then in 2010 Harpring's 5
Million comes off the books. Korver's 5 million comes off the books either this
year or next. AK becomes MAJOR trade bate for teams looking to dump salary cap
at the end of 2011. So we could trade AK's moster salary at the beginning or
middle of 2011 season. That way we keep Williams, Millsap, Bosh, Okur, at about
$50 million and sign some roll players to play around them with the extra 18-20
million. What do you think?
Don't care what Boozer wants to do. As long as the Jazz keep Korver it'll all
work out! Korver is the best shooter on the team and there are no plays
designed for him to get the ball. Odd !
Why am I reading all this. No more reading about Boozer looser. He want more
money? Does he really want to play? He didn't play much at Olympics with Mike K
coach. Go back to Alaska and maybe some of those wildlife animals might watch
you for NOTHING!
Boozer it is time for you to spread your wings and fly and leave this state.
You already pulled a fast one on Cleveland. You haven't provided much here.BUH BYE
Are you crazy? Boozer was a disaster last year. His lack of interior defense
kills the entire team. If we do not get a couple of capable seven foot defensive
men, then nothing will help this team. The Lakers are winning because they have
three quality big men. Say what you want about Kobe, they didn't get anywhere
until they got Gasol. Boozer and second round pick for Bosh. AK said he would restructure to leave. AK for Shaq and a second round pick.
Jazz select Tyler H in first round. Sign and trade Korver for Bell
Notice, everytime Boozer is asked that question, he never directly answers is.
Well, here in SLC, we don't like you Booz, don't let the door hit you on your
way out. LEAVE!!!!!!!!
That's the problem with the Jazz, and I don't know if it's Jerry's fault or
management, it's that mentality of maintaining meritocracy and not going out and
making a meaningful moves that will actually make a difference. Look at what Lebron did with the Cavs. Without him they aren't even a playoff
team.Signing Boozer would only continue this vicious cycle of bad
Even my 5 year old knows that
Anybody who knows what an "Efficiency Rating" is might be able to appreciate
that boozer holds the 5th highest efficiency rating in the playoffs, ahead of
players like D-Wade and Tim Duncan, and Paul Millsap, all of whom I am a bigger
fan of than Booz.But T=D, what about his poor defense?Maybe NBA
players are just difficult to guard. Who are the better options over Boozer?
Bosh seems to be at the top of the wish list, but he couldn't lead his team to
the playoffs in the EASTERN conference and we still think he might be too much
to ask for.The current mindset of the Jazz fan comes off as that being
given the choice between a team of prima donnas that perennially makes playoff
runs, and a team of blue-collar protagonists who always fall just short of
greatness, we would choose to identify with the latter. At least we can
still pity the clipper fans. Good luck, Blake.
I think we keep boozer only if we are going to get a defensive center. That
will take the post pressure off of him and it will shore up our defense.
Speaking of defense, it isn't just that he and the turk don't play defense,
worse yet they set the example and tone for an entire team that doesn't play
BOSH would be a great fit!!!! drop A.K., miles, knight, harpring, korver, fes.
sign almond, pick up Camby, Magette, randolph.obviously we need
height, defense and athletic shooters.
contIf the Jazz just did this trade with the knowledge that Bosh is
gone in a year lets run for the championship - I am fine with that, but there is
always cost.A team always need to make sure they can have 2 or 3
players who over achieve. The Jazz this season had Williams, Brewer, and
Millsap all paid under 5 million a year. Denver has Anderson, JR Smith both
being paid under 5 million. LA has Ariza who will need a raise. Orlando has
Turk and Gorgot - both looking for raises.
The Bosh ProblemIf the Jazz sign and Trade Boozer for Bosh - I think
Toronto would really consider this. Bosh is leaving next off season and this
would lock up a power forward for 6 years - most likely to NYC. Next
year, Bosh, AK and Williams the have a combined salary of 46 million Bosh is a free agent 2010. For the Jazz to resign Bosh, it would be 6 year
deal starting at 17 million and ending at 23 million. Bosh, AK and Williams
salary would be 51 millon. 2011 AK comes off your books. So basically if we did this - Okur is gone, Korver is gone, Millsap can be
resigned for under 10 million a year. Because Management said they would pay
one year of luxury tax - 2010 Harpring comes off the books2010 looks
even bleaker Brewer comes off his rookie contract meaning he will be getting
offers around 5 to 7 million a year and the Jazz have NYC first round pick.
Bosh, Williams, AK and Millsap combined salary - 58 million - meaning the Jazz
would have 12 million to fill out 8 spots.
The jazz will keep boozer.This is about having a "fun and competitive"
team, remember?The jazz's descent into mediocrity will speed up next
year. Young talent will continue to rot and nothing will change.
Selfishness. One big word that describes professional basketball anymore. I
get so tired of hearing these athletes say what they are "worth." Millions to
play a game. Dubbed as "heroes," the real heroes are struggling to make ends
meet working real jobs, raising kids, and being responsible adults. If Boozer
gets his millions, I sure hope it is not here. I just can't get over it. A
heartless, defenseless, constantly hurt player jockeying himself for franchise
player money. Come on Jazz front office! Two big money mistakes is enough (see
Ostertag and A.K.). Bring Millsap back and let Boozer sit behind a bench in a
suit worth more than my yearly salary somewhere else.
Get him out of here
There is no way Booz is wanting to stay here. Everything he says in this
interview pretty much restates his original 'position'. He wants a raise, and
will do what's best for him.... he's waiting for the Jazz to come to him???
Give me a break. IF Boozer was to stay in Utah, he has a looooooooooong way to
go in smoothing things over with fans, and his most recent comments do anything
BUT that. As someone else has already said, Boozer needs to think about what he
says, and realize that 'average' people who make 'average' money are
hearing/reading them, and he's certainly not doing anything to help himself when
it comes to the fans.
I don't see how you can blame mediocre results and losing in the playoffs all on
Boozer. The bigger problem is that when you play Boozer and Okur at the same
time the interior defense just isn't going to be very strong. Sure Millsap
tries hard but at the end of the day he's only 6'7". The Jazz could still use a
real center who is tall and plays like it even if he can't score as much as
Okur.Another problem is that Brewer, AK, and Knight didn't shoot
well from outside so opposing teams just leave them open. At the same time you
can't blame Sloan too much for playing Brewer over Korver when you need someone
to guard Kobe and other athletic 2 guards. With multiple weaknesses
to address, I don't see how getting rid of your #1 go-to scoring option will be
any kind of improvement. The Jazz could easily pick in the lottery and try to
sign high-priced free agents for 5 straight years and still not end up with
someone who can score as well as Boozer already does.
contI would also take Kamen instead of Camby. This way we do not
need to take on Darius Miles salary. Kamen best season 2008 he averaged 15pts
12.7 rebounds and 2.8 blks a games.
Anyone that thinks Bosh wouldn't come here is an idiot. 1st it's not his choice
he has a contract, 2nd even Donyell Marshall looked amazing when he played here
so does anyone really think Bosh wouldn't put up at least 26 and 10, and 3rd he
plays for Toronto!! At this point he'd accept being traded to Zombie Sonics!Ok I'll give it to you people Boozer has a higher shot % than Bosh but the
diference is minimal and the Jazz are a TON better than the Raptors. So once
Bosh plays here his shot % will go up cuz if other teams double and triple him
that will get killed by Memo or D-Will or AK (6 or 7 times a year). The day we
trade for Bosh is the day I start caring about what's happening in the NBA
If I were the Jazz, The Jazz sign and trade Boozer (14 million) to
NJ for Simmons (10 mil expiring 2010 contract), Najera 3.1 million and the 11th
pick in the draft. Why would NJ do this - They get Boozer, Harris, Carter, and
Lopez as their base - they are instantly relevant again. The Jazz get a draft
pick. The Jazz can then trade Simmons to the Clippers for Camby,
Ricky Davis and the 31 pick in the draft. The Clippers need minutes for Blake
Griffen and the Clippers already have Kamen, Camby and Randolph. That gives the
Jazz The Jazz should then let Okur walk - if he opts out. Simply
because the Jazz need Camby, KoufasMillsap (When Millsap
comes Out AK moves over to PF) AK (11th pick - Daye), Najera, Harpring,
Darius MilesBrewer, Korver (not opting out), Miles, (20th pick-
Henderson)Williams 31st pick (Mills or Lawson) which ever one drops out of
first round.This also give the Jazz some flexibility to for 2010
when we will have a top 10 pick and Brewer will need a raise. One
step backward - two steps forward.
themselves. We all know that they will denounce their ways once we miss the
playoffs with millsap leading us. I call for all boozer haters to be lynched if
we are a worse team without boozer.
trade boz to rthe d league. let him sit down there for a year
Pound for pound, dollar for dollar, the jazz would have been better off buying a
load of wood...boozer is a loser, he just doesn't know how to win!
boozer needs gone if they have to pay him to go. not just because he is always
hurt but his whole attitude. the main reason when he wasent playing all year he
had the balls to say he was opting out. opting out of what he hadent earned what
he got paid last year? if i dident show up to work half the time the last 5
years then said i wanted a raise they would tell me dont let the door knob hit
you were the good lord split you.
Will go somewhere else and get his new coach fired because of the way he plays
defense- I guarantee it! That is if he plays at all, he may just decide to ride
the pine half the time, like he did here. He is a waste of a roster spot. Sure
he's good when he's healthy but he can't stay healthy. Besides the Jazz had
thier longest winning streak of the year while he was out shopping with the
Boozer had the same injury as Garnett and it is not like Garnett instantly had
surgery and was able to play again and that was in the playoffs. The Jazz have 2 choices - KEEP BOOZER or trade him for equal value - Toronto
Boozer for Chris Bosh and let either Okur, Millsap or Korver (2 out of the 3
have to go). If Okur does not opt out, you have to let Millsap go OR Let Boozer go, Sign and trade him to a team under a cap Detroit - Kwame
Brown and their 15th draft pick or sign and trade him for an expiring contract -
Simmions, Naraje and the 11th Draft Pick - this would mean the Jazz would have
to pay one year of Luxury Tax. Now I like Boozer better than most of
you, but I think Millsap will become better than Boozer. And he is younger and
Finally somebody with something besides space between his ears!!..... BOSH IS A
"PERIMETER" ORIENTED PLAYER. CHRIS BOSH DOESN'T HELP US IN THE MIDDLE AT
ALL.....And just to save you the trouble of looking it up, his FG% is far less
than Boozer's and with only 45 3PT attempts last season for a 27% clip, he's no
Memo either.......Get smart people!He looks good on the
Rapps.....cuz he's all they've got.
$67M over 6 years and he's worried about economic stability during these tough
economic times? What is this joker smoking? Him and AK are total busts for
what they are getting paid. These professional athletes having their incomes
guaranteed without performing is what is wrong with pro sports! Hit
the road Jack!
Let Boozer go. He is lazy and useless.
In a Mary Poppins world the same 15 Jazz Players will be back in 2009-2010 that
is what the organization would be happy with...Morris Almond is the biggest
waste of talent anyone has drafted in likely the last 5 years. Sit Sit or play
in the Bush Leagues. Disgusting... I feel a good, motivating coach would get so
much more and we are going to lose a 2 time NCAA scoring champion. Comment:
How much worse defense can he play than what is here now. ALso Kevin Kruger can
drain shots all night. If Korver left, here is a cheap and would be grateful
son of coach replacement living his dreams to be in the NBA. Yeah not great
defensively. Set him some picks and if time to get his shot off unlimited
range. With he and Almond on this roster now your attack improves beyong
comprehension. Get Bosh in here, resign Milsap and now you can compete for
glory.Will Jazz management do this?What do you think...
I hate to correct a couple of you on this, but Karl left only after John decided
to retire... I know 95% of you can't think about some of those things logically
and have selective memory on these things, but please try to get out of the
obsessed arm chair fan mode and look at some of these things logically... But I
do agree with the majority of the sentiment in wanting the greedy, hypocritical,
lazy, cement-shoed panzy gone!
to chris bosh dream hee hee hee hee right o mate. Tell that to the
"sloanaholics" maybe snagglepuss can come out of hibernation at Jellystone to
shed light on this-a team for the 2010s O Connor, Johnson and Sloanie at least
for one year, what a future...
Between Chris Bosh and Marcin Gortat( no sliding of Gortat's merit is intended
here), Jerry Sloan will pick Gortat, a white boy and scrub. That's his type of
player. So all of you CB dreamers out there can really forget about it. You all
live with a chimera in your collective brain.
Anonymous 9:10Brewer's percentage only goes up because of all the
dunks and layups he gets. I bet his percentage outside 10 feet is in the low
30% range. I'd like him to stay on the team but he just HAS to work on the
shooting. We can't have 2 or 3 players on the court at any given moment that
can't make shots. AK, Brewer, Knight. Can't shoot!
CB will not come to a place so ingrateful as Utah. A place which booed Karl
Malone upon his return? Moreover, he is NOT playing for Jerry Sloan, a coach who
doesn't know how to manage superstars. Take it to the bank.
Spoiled, petulant 20-something, like half of that generation out there.
I hope Boozer walks for it will free up some much needed money. Give some to
Milsap and I say to resign Morris Almond because I still don't think he has been
given a fair chance. Why athletes now days need agents puzzles me. They can't
all be that stupid can they? I don't recall John Stockton ever having one!!
If you want to continue being a mediocre team losing in the first round go ahead
and sign him again.The Jazz need to make some real moves to improve.
Memo, AK, Boozer, all three are soft, won't put a body on guys in the paint. A
team can handle maybe one of these keys positions being soft but comeon, all
three? I think this is a great opportunity for the Jazz to make some needed
I think the Jazz really need to make some changes. Since Williams is by far the
best player, we should definitely keep him, but make some trades for some other
key players. First, I would try to get Bosh for Boozer, and then trade Okur for
Dwight Howard. It may take a little bit extra money, but I think we should trade
AK for Lebron James, and trade Brewer for Dwayne Wade. If Jazz management would
get off their butts and realize that, I think we would have a team that could
have a good shot for the finals. Throw in Ronnie Price and Knight for Chris Paul
to back up Williams at the point, and it would be a sure thing.
Waking up in the morning on July 1, 2009 will be a day for joy and happiness.
Booz has opted out and signed with a team in the Eastern Conference. Millsap as
signed with the Jazz. Sloan retires, Hornacek is now head coach and Morris
Almond is signed and named the 2 guard starter. Okur gets a new contract with
Jazz and Korver decides to stay for another year.
"Yeah," he said. "I mean, obviously, I put the ball in their court. You know, I
told them I wanted to be there and we'll see how they respond, and how they
approach me."Putting the ball in the Jazz's court is what WILL
happen if you opt out. Until then, Carlos, it's in YOUR court. You are the one
under contract. It's YOUR choice, not the Jazz's or anyone else's. Stop
listening to your agent telling you every team wants you and think how much
money you won't make in New Jersey, Detroit, and especially Miami. Detroit needs to fill several holes, not just the 4. They could use help at
center, the bench needs a few replacements, etc. So all of that $20 mil from
Iverson's expiring deal isn't going to one guy...NJ and Miami can
only offer the mid-level unless they negotiate a trade with the Jazz. So unless you want to go to Memphis...With the behavior and
statements he's made, expect the Jazz to let him walk.
Only play part time. Give him part time pay.
The only thing that the Jazz can do is consider how much they are willing to pay
Boozer or not. They should call his agent's bluff and see how much interest
there really is from other teams before they just give him what he is asking for
like they did with AK and Ostertag. They can probably beat any offer if they
really want to.Just saying you're not interested in Boozer at all
would be stupid. The Jazz just aren't going to get another player that will
produce 20 points and 10 rebounds with 50+ FG% any time soon. Look at Dwight
Howard drafted #1 overall and rightly so, but for all his size and athleticism
he hasn't scored as much against the Lakers as Boozer did.The Jazz
need to think long and hard about how much Boozer is really worth because of his
history of missing so many games with injuries and weak defense. Personally, I
think it would be worth risking maybe 13 million per season for another 4 years.
If Detroit or some other team wants to pay him more than that then let them
Why are there so many Brewer haters? He's solid and he's getting better each
year! Alright, he didn't shoot well during the playoffs but he shot a lot
better this year than he has in previous seasons. He continues to improve and
he will be one of our best players.
Both Mailman and Boozer were whiners. The BIG difference however is Malone
produced year in and year out and people put up with all the hoo-haw. Boozer is
injured then in a slump then injured then in a slump ......
What the "GREEDY" one is saying is that if the Jazz offer him more money and 5
or 6 years he will bless us with his presence! I call his bluff if I'm the man.
Let him opt out, then we will see who the real suckers are. This whole issue is
sickening and is worn out. Move on Jazz. Also dump A.K, Collins, Knight, Miles,
Fess, and Brewer. Don't over pay Milsap either or you may end up with another
Boozer or A.K. on your hands. He is not the durable player everyone thinks when
he has to play starter minutes. Give me the Milsap, D-Will, Korver, Koufus,
Price, Harpring types and I and others will be happy because we will at least
get effort and heart. There are real players to be had if this management tries.
Lets see some effort in management too.
You want to paid more than 12.7 million dollars/year for nursing one of your
many "injuries" and sitting on the bench? I can not believe how disconnected
this guy is from reality.
The Jazz underperform because of poor defense and unfortunately, Boozer is a big
part of that. Part of being a superstar means learning to play defense. He's
been in the league plenty long and still has no clue how to defend. Look at all
the great championship teams...they all know how to defend. Even the stars like
Lebron and Kobe learned that if they were going to be great, they had to play
defense. The Jazz have actually gone backwards in their defensive ability,
primarily due to Boozer. Let's hope the Jazz have enough sense to get rid of
Boozer and resign Milsap who is an excellent defender.
I agree we need a big who can defend, but is Bosh that player? I love his
attitute and offensive skills, but I really don't know if he's the "stopper in
the middle" we need. Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see him as a Jazz man, but
I think we also need either Biedrins, Kaman, or Gortot(sp?) - a truely
defensive-minded center! Any thoughts???
It doesn't really matter whether Carlos Boozer is here or not next season
because either way the Jazz will still have to get better defensively if they
are to improve as a team and compete with the rest of the West. I think
everyone would agree that Utah needs a defensive center. I think trying to get
Gortat from the Magic is a decent move. He's certainly no Dwight Howard, but he
appears to be able to hold his own under the basket on both ends of the floor.
The ONLY reason the Jazz were in the Western Conf Finals two years ago was
because Golden St. knocked off Dallas in the first round, NOT because of Boozer.
In fact, I remember Boozer being the reason the Spurs spanked the Jazz in 5
primarily because Boozer sucked it up! Boozer, GO AWAY!!!!
There isn't enough crack on the planet to influence someone to take Boozer in
trade for Bosh. That's just the way it is.
I say keep Boozer, because he will have an outstanding year due to an expiring
contract, and won't dare be hurt next year. Then drop his lazy no-defense butt!
AH OH.Boozer has realized he's not worth $12.7 a year and now maybe opting
out might be a bad idea considering any team that will take him will want to pay
him less.I say the Jazz let him opt out and then offer a 5 year $6m
deal so he can repay the team for the two and a half seasons he stole.
Sorry no gripes here only a recipe how to move forward.Boozer is a
stud. Trade Okur anywhere you can. Buy Dwight Howards backup, he runs the
floor and plays outstanding D, and the Magic said they are not going to be able
to afford to keep him. Send Brewer packing as he proved he can't shoot against
LA. Package him with Andrei and Korver and get Magette. If you do that then
you can sign and trade Milsap who is a stud but not of Boozer status. Move CJ
to 2 guard and bring on Fes and Coufous to learn. That frees up capital and
allows you to stay under the cap.
I'm no the "rent a Wallace" bandwagon. Let Booz go, sign Milsap for 8M per, and
see if we can convince Rasheed to come play for us for a year or two. NO ONE
can tell me we'd lose as many road games with that guy on our team. Rasheed
Wallace can help this team. I know, he's a headcase, but seriously, he'd
help.I'd love the Bosh deal, but how realistic is that?Go Jazz
If you think he would be happy in Detroit or New Jersey, fugget about it. And
the thrid team being talked about, Toronto? Go ahead and consign yoursel to
oblivion? Nah! Utah's his best shot.
"Contract Status is Up to Jazz"??? What? I thought it is him who can decide to
opt out or not. Something I am missing??
Sign and Trade for BOSH!
All you who say Boozer is gone, need to consider that he has the option to opt
out or not. If he finds that no other team will pay him more than the Jazz will
pay him in 2009-10 per his contract, then he will not opt out. He will be on
the Jazz team this coming season. In that scenario, the only options the Jazz
have it to: 1. Play him, or 2. Trade him. There is one more option and that
is a sign and trade, which would take a deal between the Jazz and another team
as well as Boozer and his agent concurring to the deal. Those are the only
options that I can see are available to the Jazz.
we need a good 2 and 3. defense is overrated. trade ak for maggette and
crawford, let korver walk, trade harpring for a backup power forward, resign
memo to the tune of $11 mil (kaman's salary) and sign millsap (or boozer if he'd
take $13 mil a year).
Not that it really makes a difference but I think for Stockton, he should be
refered to as Hall of Fame-elect (or something like that). He's in but he's not
officially in until the induction.As for Boozer, I just don't care
anymore. He has sucked the joy of basketball out of me.
Give Boozer a break, he was injuredI think we are all upset about
this last season, it started off with such promise and ended very badly. But hey
we made the playoffs in a very competitive western conference, the suns didnt
even make the playoffs for crying out loud. I think one of the main reasons the
Jazz didnt have more success was because of the back up point guard situation,
brevin knight was horrible, absolutely horrible. The whole season I kept
thinking, why isnt ronnie price playing instead? Whenever d-will would take the
bench we would struggle because brevin knight can not score or distribute the
ball. But we all saw the jazz last game against the lakers when sloan finally
decided to put price in and he almost single handedly led us to a win with his
hustle and tenacity. I say if price played as backup rather than
knight, the jazz would have been a higher seed in the playoffs and would have
made it to the second round at least. I also think its time for a new coach,
sloan is getting too old, love the guy, but the jazz need something new
Booz is a lot of things, but he's not someone to get rid of at all costs like
some of you would have. Fickle Fans, you said it. Carlos can be a stud, and
he'll look a whole lot better if we get a big man to sure up the middle
defensively. I will concede that Booz and Memo should never play
together as our only defensive post options, because their bad defense becomes
amplified when they're together. But just imagine if we had somebody as good as
Ostertag (not a very high bar, I think we'd all agree) to block some shots. All
of a sudden we could be in the hunt. I believe Fezenko can achieve Ostertag
status...I know that's saying a lot for some of you Big O Fans :-) Now imagine if we get a center like Dalembert, Pryzbyla, or another shot
blocking center with some offensive skills too. Granted we'll have to give up a
piece or two at some point if that happens, but I'm not sure Carlos is the piece
to give up. Be careful what you wish for Jazz fans... OUT
The interview was done by Jim Rome on the ESPN show "Jim Rome is Burning."
let Jersey or even Toronto deal with him. time to get Chris Bosh from
Toronto....for Boozer and Kirilenko and Collins.
Obviously Carlos needs to improve his defense, but where were all of you fickle
fans when the Jazz were in the Western Conference Finals and Boozer was the MAN?
He has been hurt, give the guy a break. I would love to see any of you perform
like you expect these athletes to after an injury. The problem is that you don't
have to prove it, you can just run your mouths on these boards and on sports
talk shows. I am going to love to hear what all of you say when Carlos leaves
and the Jazz have 30 wins next year.
Why do you ask Why? Apparently you did not watch many of the games. Boozer
contributed very little to the limited success we had this year. We could have
been playing the big men and giving them some experience and exposure. Boozer
deserves nothing more from the JAZZ. The fans want him gone. He is a pain to
watch and that is what we pay the big money for.....GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBoozer
Why would anybody want to come back to this? You people are just awful. Be
careful what you wish for because you are going to have the same mediocre team
as last year.
What tv show and channel was this interview on today?
Shouldn't that be "hall-of-famer Stockton and future hall-of-famer Malone"?
Stock already made it. Speaking of John, didn't he bring in
sandwiches and sit down with Larry and negotiate his contract himself? No
agent, no bull. Didn't he settle for $8 mil so Karl could get paid more? John
Stockton played because he really loved the game and loved to compete and he was
loyal to the Jazz. This stolid, poker-faced man broke down when he
said it was time to retire. And he never tried to come back. He just faded
into the sunset and went back to normal life with his family, which is what he
wanted all along--anonymity and a chance to spend time with his kids and wife.
What an example.
Come on Carlos please explore your options and opt out. Do yourself and the
people of Utah a favor and move on. Good luck but you have worn out your welcome
a little more than the mid level exemption. He will get a lot of mid level
exemption offers. He will have a lot of good options. The Jazz
should see if they can cut a deal before he goes on the market. They
can deal with Boozer later. If he opts, I do not see Detroit wanting him for 12+
mill on a multi year contract in a bad economy. If Boozer stays he is a good
trade as an expiring contract or the Jazz have most of the year to work out a
deal with him if they really want him.The Jazz should be in no
hurry. In the worst case they lose Boozer for nothing but they get 12+ mill in
cap relief. They can get another player (similar to Millsap) for 6
mill or less and have both Millsap and the new player. Both will improve and the
combo will be better than Boozer. Better defense and eventually a very good
offense. Also, probably better chemistry and fan support. The Jazz
are in the drivers seat as long as they are not dumb and resign Boozer for too
If you want to ski like the best, ski with the best. Boozer should find a team
that inspires him to greatness. You can't be loyal just for the sake of being
loyal. "This above all; to thy shelf be true."
Boozer's agent can get a offer out of the Jazz. If the Jazz are smart they will
force Boozer to make a decision on opting. KOC needs to stay on vacation. In the
mean time they need to sign Millsap to an extension if they can and then after
Boozer's opt out date they can deal with him. As one GM said, Boozer
would be crazy to opt out. Detroit has lots of options. How bad do they need
Boozer? The can keep Wallace for another year or 2 and do just fine. Or the Jazz can rent Wallace or someone like him for a year or 2. The Jazz can
also pick up a younger big who plays defense and play Okur, Millsap, Koufos and
the new big in rotations. That will be as good or better than having Boozer 1/2
of the time. That also save a ton of money.The Jazz as currently
constituted can't beat LA anyway so why not try something new? Surely the Jazz
can win 50 games without Boozer if they get a good replacement.That
will get them into the playoffs (same as usual).
After $55 million over the last 5 years, Boozer has been paid far more than he
has earned.He has the right to negotiate for as much money as anyone
is foolish enough to pay. But, they better look at the amount of time he is
unavailable due to injuries, his meager defensive contributions, and eagerness
to jump ship for any good offer.Boozer rides only for the Boozer
brand, and the Jazz need to make him a fair offer, and not waste $12 million for
another year.Just add in that the salary is pro-rated per game, and
any game his is not able to play in he does not get paid for. His family won't
starve, unless he has totally blown $55 M.He needs to recognize that
besides great talent, Stockton and Malone also had LOYALTY, at least until
Karl's greedy agent lured him away in the final years.
Let's get real, Carlos. Your family is definitely taken care of in most
respects. Private schools, top-dollar medical care, multiple homes, etc.How about helping the team that's paid you for 1/2 the work they
expected to get from you?Jazz management, if they re-sign him (NO!),
need to make his next contract performance-based to some extent...
I don't care if Boozer goes somewhere else and regains his former dominance. I
just don't want him on the team anymore. He is a wart and we can do better. WE
need someone who is hungry for a ring, not somebody who is wishy washy about it.
Bye Bye Boozer.
I hope boozer opts out. We need a big man who can defend. Boozer is a terrible
defender. Chris bosh. Please!
Utah Jazz: Boozer says he hasn't decided to opt out of contract = "Utah Jazz:
Boozer isn't getting the offers he fantasized about!"
Boozer is gone thank god. But we have a few more that need to go namely A.K.,
Miles, Collins, Knight, Fess, Brewer or Korver(take your pick). I would sign
Milsap only up to 8mil no more or you will have another A.K. on your hands.
Remember how good A.K. played before the big contract, well don't repeat the
same mistake. Sign Almond if he will stay and give him and Koufus some playing
time for hell sakes. Then go out and get or try to sign Wallace of the Bobcats,
Gordon of the Bulls, Crawford, Maggette, of the Warriors, make a trade with the
nets if needed to get rid of Boozer, JUST DO SOMETING!
boozer-you are average at best--poor d avg o fair rebounder--terrible role
model--go away asap
Boozer, the ball is in YOUR COURT, not ours. It's all on you.Bottom
line, the Jazz can't keep Millsap AND Boozer...guess who stays? It's been real,
Go to LA for a million just like Greedy Karl. Good night and good luck.
Wow.....the guy has already made many times more money than 90% of the
population will make in their entire life time and he talks about "securing
himself financially"? Just another example of pro athletes not having a grip on
Seriously, quit being a fan for a second and think. If you were in his shoes
you would opt out and get the most money you can. Their NBA careers
are very short in comparison to ours. Time to get rich while you can. I promise you D-Will is going to opt out of his contract in 3 years as
well. Lets see who throws him under the bus as well.
Boozer has not opted out of his contract is he hasn't found another team willing
to pay him one cent more than his contract with the Jazz will pay him next
year.Please Carlos, take a pay cut and go to Chicago.
You bet! I think the Nets would love to pay Boozer to sit the bench. Boozer
should go to the Nets...like it said in the story....He has a house there and
feels comfortable there. Great fit for Boozer....just leave Utah....soon!
If Boozer really cared about winning he would opt out and take a pay cut.
Obviously it is just better if he leaves since Sloan couldn't even keep him out
of the starting lineup after he came back from his injury this year. If I was
Milsap I know I would be pissed off and feel unappreciated putting up the
numbers he did and then automatically losing the starting spot to a guy who had
been out of the rotation for months
Let's face it, Boozer's number one goal is money. Bling Bling. Diamond earings,
giant gold necklaces, fast cars, ten houses, everything a person needs to feel
secure in this time of economic uncertainty. Everything else is a secondary
consideration to this so man. Period. He can say what he wants about winning
championships too, but he doesn't have the heart of one yet. O yeah, being
happy is a choice Carlos, a state of mind.
. . . the Miller Group is all about entertainment. As long as their business
focus satisfies the need to have a marketable NBA entertainment product on the
Jazz basketball floor (meaning enough bodies in the seats to pay the freight),
why even get involved in discussions about NBA championships in Utah? It just
isn't going to be a reality. The ILLUSION, however, is what keeps the
discussion interesting. It's the taste of the possibility, having twice made
the Finals, but it's not reality to assume it will ever actually happen. Keep
it all in perspective and you'll all be happier.
Oh, Blahdi-blah-blah! If he comes back and produces, EVERYbody will jump back on
his bandwagon. If not, they will take great pride in booing him when he comes
back to play against us. We (me included) are VERY fickle fans and have weak
memories. But we are, nonetheless, neurotic Jazz fans. Love us or leave us and
be done with it. We love you and expect the same from you (forgetting that this
is a BIG business with BIG $$$$). Whoever plays for the Jazz, I will probably
fall in love with and weep when they leave (Raja Bell [I have his shoes),
etc.). Whatever happens, we are Jazz fans til the end (bring on the champagne so
we can go out dancing). (Go ANYBODY but the Lakers/Kobe!!!!) (I know, he is a
child of God, too.)
Of course he hasn't decided yet if he wants to stay in Utah. He doesn't have
all the offers in. It's obvious that he'll go wherever the money takes him.
And, you can't really blame him. Most of us would do the same. The Jazz is a
business, and the players are just their employees.The only thing we
can fault Boozer for is his unwillingness to earn the money that he's already
been paid.The single most important thing to recognize when
recruiting talent for your organization is that the best predictor of future
performance is past performance. With that in mind, there is no way Boozer
rates $10+ million a year. But, there is bound to be some franchise desperate
for talent that is willing to gamble and hope the he can stay healthy and
. . . "on how they approach me." If I were the Jazz management, I'd simply say,
"Carlos opt out now, go find out who's interested in paying you more than we
have, and then you approach us with a number that it will take to keep you."
Carlos has it backwards, as usual. And let's hope if I'm Jazz management I'm
not stupid enough to enter the bidding war and raise the price -- he's a fraud
as a basketball player and a human being.
C'mon O'Connor....Sign Milsap to $8M....trade Boozer and AK47 for Gordon and
Bosh! Throw in Brewer, Almond, Collins or Knight....but get it done!
How many homes does this guy need? Salt Lake, Miami, Cleveland, Los Angeles,
and now New Jersey?
Secure yourself financially??? $55 million over 5 years and you are still
worried about financial security? If you need more money than that then you
have more problems in your head than trying to figure out how to be a winner.
Be careful when giving quotes that we normal people will read. We don't feel
your $55 million poverty pains. Good grief.
Boozer is trying to make himself financially viable in this tough economy? What
a joke! He's already milked the Jazz out of 55 million dollars. If that is not
financially secure I don't know what is. He Carlos, try living on 25k a year
and see how that is!!!!You are a loser Boozer....Get the hell of
My guess is that Boozer will opt out and play elsewhere. Boozer is about
Boozer. Crack on Malone for not having a ring or two but to compare those 2 is
unfair. Booz doesn't have Malone's mental or physical toughness (yes, I know,
the Mailman didn't delivery in the Finals, blah, blah, blah) but at least he got
their twice and I just don't see Boozer putting the team on his shoulders like
Malone did and carrying them.Let's face it - those Finals Jazz teams
were all about Stockton & Malone - decent supporting cast, but far better role
players than stars. Same is true now - it's Deron's team, not Boozer's - he's
the driving force behind the team. Boozer is there only 1/2 the time anyway -
when they win, it's more due to DW playing well than Boozer's presence.End the drama - opt out and play with the Nets or the Heat.
I think that the best plan for Boozer is to leaave Utah. It will improve the
teams chemistry. Granted Utah needs another big man, but we need a big man that
really wants to play and is not putting "money" first and foremost. The Jazz
with Boozer as a "me first always," will not improve the team. I would rather
finish even lower than the Jazz finished with a group of guys that leave it all
on the floor every night, than someone who is injured at least a third of the
time. In what other profession can a person miss a third of the time, get paid
the same, and want more?
I didn't hear him mention that he's working on his defensive skills. At this
point ANY DEFENSE would be an improvement out of Boozer.Offensive
strategy of our opponents on any given night: Throw the ball to whomever Boozer
"And this is a good opportunity, in such an insecure economy, to secure myself
financially doing something I love to do."--Carlos BoozerHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!--me
he can play significantly more than half the games each season, if he stays
here. He's so unhealthy I don't know why any team would be willing to take on a
12 million+ bench player. The Jazz have shown what that's amounted to. Give
the money to Milsap, he "deserves" it....as much as anyone can deserve to make
that much money.
Boozer is NOT a superstar. He is an above average player who happened to have a
great supporting cast these past two years. He seems to be quite fragile when
it comes to injuries. I think that the Jazz could do better with someone else,
especially after his announcement earlier that he planned to opt out of his 4th
year. It appears that reality has set in that he may not be able to do better
with another team, especially in a soft financial market, and I suspect that the
Jazz are not revealing all of their cards in this give and take, as well. As
for Karl and John, Boozer doesn't even come close to measuring up, where Derrin
seems to be getting closer to a match for Stockton.
He won't get more than $12mm from another team. He'll be back and probably does
not produce sufficiently next year to get pay raise.
Boozer expects a pay raise? He should be giving the Jazz (and us season ticket
holders) a refund.
We've all decided for you Boozer, we don't want you here anymore. BYE BYE