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Dick Harmon: Beck gets another chance to start over

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Charles | 2:18 p.m. May 23, 2009
Great to see another Mesa Mountain View grad doing well! Go Toros!
kind of like Smith | 4:08 p.m. May 23, 2009
started too early, too many offensive coordinators, lucky he hasn't had the injuries that Smith has though. And lucky he has a friend in Cam Cameron. He should name his next son Cam.

If he gets the 2nd string spot, there's a good chance he'll see action,


Ok | 6:46 a.m. May 24, 2009
There's nothing wrong with being a backup quarterback in the NFL making millions of dollars just ask Ty Detmer.
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Good for Beck | 6:48 a.m. May 24, 2009
I love to see a guy get a second chance. He will do well, hes a very good back up. I hope he can start in the NFL someday. Im a big fan, good luck to him. Ill be following.
becks need to do it or else | 9:01 a.m. May 24, 2009
this is Beck's last stop in the NFL. He MUST have a good pre-season or else he is gone for good. Miami was a bust so this has to be a BIG improvement or else he will be using his BYU degree to do something else in life.
ronald | 9:56 a.m. May 24, 2009
With patience and a lot of luck, Beck should see some action this year. He's got NFL talent and Baltimore would be wise to give him a shot. If they play games with him like Miami, it's bye bye. Although, he could try out for the CFL. That league is small but the intensity on the field and in the stands is very real. Ironically, the CFL is building new stadiums and adding franchises. But, I want Beck to make it here. If he goes north, we will never see him even if he leads a team to the Grey Cup.
Beck | 10:52 a.m. May 24, 2009
Isn't as good as many of you BYU fans had predicted. He's not that good, he just had a few more years in age playing for the "OLD MAN" club in the MWC.
TY | 10:53 a.m. May 24, 2009
Detmer led both the Eagles and San Francisco to the NFC Championship game. Its not his fault he was behind the likes of Farve and Young. Even Montana got replace by Young.
Anonymous | 11:22 a.m. May 24, 2009
The NFL is lots of luck and timing, including fitting with the right coaching. It does not mean that a good athlete is not good.
TrueRed | 11:51 a.m. May 24, 2009
YYYYAAAWWWWNNNNN!!!!!
Anonymous | 12:03 p.m. May 24, 2009
I really enjoy BYU sports, but do we have to hear about Jon Beck every week? it is getting old
Love it | 12:33 p.m. May 24, 2009
Becks awesome! Best of luck to him with the Ravens. He could get the call in the playoffs and prove the NFL that he's a worthy starter. That would make his stock soar. Go John!
Anonymous | 12:58 p.m. May 24, 2009
Yawwwnnnn is right. Great to see Beck is making friends. That is sooooooo nice. I can't wait for a story on how retired BYU quarterback Robbie Bosco has a dog that he likes to play with or Vai Sikahema now gives guest appearances at his kids' nursery school.
Come on, don't go searching so hard for these silly stories.
Problem is Inconsistency | 1:15 p.m. May 24, 2009
There is no doubt that Beck has NFL tools. He has a very quick release, is accurate, smart, works hard, and has a very decent NFL arm - throwing the 2nd fastest timed ball at the combine. His arm is probably twice as strong as a Hall or Detmer and probably more in line with Steve Young's. His problem is exactly what was stated in this article. One minute he throws a bad pick and the next the pass of the day. It seemed to be the same everytime I checked in on Miami articles discussing their camp. He often outplayed the other QBs in throwing drills and threw passes that wowed those watching but almost always threw a bad pick or two as well. When he did get on the field in Miami it was the same - several turnovers mixed with some nice plays. It's one thing to blame Miami's line and receivers for his game play but it seems he does the same in practice. Coaches have to trust a starter and so far Beck has shown to be turnover prone. And yet he also exhibits the raw skills that keeps people hanging on and hoping.
GA/QBC/OC | 1:23 p.m. May 24, 2009
If the NFL does not turn out for Beck, I see him spending two years as a GA at LSU; then QBC for 3 to 5 at some BCS school; followed by a long stint as the OC at some BCS school.
RE: TY | 1:38 p.m. May 24, 2009
I hope you were kidding about that Detmer plug and that it wasn't his fault that he was playing behind HOF QB's Leading a team to an NFC championship game means that you lead them all year long, not that you stepped in for a game or two while the starting QB was out. Detmer does have one prestigious record, most interceptions thrown by a QB in an NFL game. 7 I think, I bet Max Hall was trying to best that record last year against the Utes, but came up short
Coug fan in NE | 1:39 p.m. May 24, 2009
I for one really enjoy these and other stories on former Cougars in the NFL. Please keep them coming. It is also nice to hear about how the players seem to be able to see beyond the rivalry, unlike many fans.
Beck stories etc. | 1:44 p.m. May 24, 2009
I'll bet if you look at page reads, stories like this one surpass most other stories that the D-News publishes. The fact that Ute fans and even alleged bored-but-BYU-fans-nonetheless are still reading and even commenting is testament to that. I find it humorous that even in your disdain you reinforce the publishing of these kinds of stories.
Der Beck and Anonymous | 2:25 p.m. May 24, 2009
Go to some other blogs and leave your nasty comments there. Somewhere there has got to be a negative comment blog for you two.

What is wrong about hearing about someone getting a second chance? Just call yourself Utah supporters and be honest about it. Quit hiding behind anonymity. I like to listen to Utah players getting a second chance also.

Utah has about the same age average as BYU. Several years ago they did a study on the age of MWC college players comparing them to BYU. BYU only averaged 4-6 months older than the other teams in the MWC. Around 10 years ago they did this when BYU played other teams around the country and the TV commentators were also surprised that the age difference was no where what they surmised it to be. For some reason you and others think the BYU players are all 25-26 years old. If it is so good for BYU why are the other teams telling their players to take 2 years off and do nothing with football. It is nothing by sour grapes.
Re: Love It 12:33 pm | 2:52 p.m. May 24, 2009
"He could get the call in the playoffs"

...or he could sit on the bench all year.
Top rate QB | 3:10 p.m. May 24, 2009
at BYU,3rd rate in NFL at best,he eventually will be an assistant at BYU(2 Years). go UTES.
Re: Beck | 10:52 a.m. | 3:33 p.m. May 24, 2009
Who's better? No one was better then Beck when he played his senior season. He would have picked apart the utes of 2008! He has it where the likes of smith and johnson don't!
Re: Beck Stories etc | 3:56 p.m. May 24, 2009
AMEN!!!!! Keep these stories coming!
Out of Carrots | 4:53 p.m. May 24, 2009
With few carrots left to motivate the cougar faithful along for the upcoming football season, the best alternative is a story like this. We still have a 2 game losing streak and that could be pushed to 6 before we play USU. We have cake in our faces for that "quest", and we have a fireside team masquerading as a football team.

At least we have 1984, right? Oh please.
Anonymous | 4:55 p.m. May 24, 2009
nobody cares dick.......nobody
Jim in GA | 5:51 p.m. May 24, 2009
I care!
question | 5:52 p.m. May 24, 2009
So, how long until we have to suffer through another press conference with Beck crying about how it's not fair that he works so hard and just can't win.
Advise | 6:50 p.m. May 24, 2009
Don't cry when you lose.
Anonymous | 6:59 p.m. May 24, 2009
your awesome john beck. your i can't wait to see you at camp
Ernest T. Bass | 10:24 p.m. May 24, 2009
So. Dang. Good.
Chester Blue | 10:49 p.m. May 24, 2009
Can't wait til Beck proves himself to some of these Yay-Yewts!!!!! Oh wait, he already did that. Remember that Harline's still open? It was by far the finest throw you Yewts will ever see at your 40,000 capacity filled Rice Bowl. Beck's throw was one of the finest throws in BYU Football history right up there behind McMahon's hail mary to Clay Brown to win the 1980 miracle bowl vs. SMU. Beck's arm was nearly as strong as McMahon's which says a ton! And his quick release is second to none! Everybody deserves a second chance and John has made a believer out of so many. Amazing senior year. Great talent. Great person. Enough said. Go Cougs!!!!!
Ute NFL QBs | 10:51 p.m. May 24, 2009
I was just reviewing the list of Ute starting QBs in the NFL. The Page was blank.
true blue | 10:58 p.m. May 24, 2009
When is football season going to get here?
Bob in line | 11:14 p.m. May 24, 2009
All the yawns from those who bothered to read the whole article. Is life so boring that you take the time to read something then whine about it?

I hope Beck does well, as well as Kruger, etc. Life is too short to be such a dimwit about charcter.

And is there a Beck story in the paper every week? I don't remember seeing one for months. Must have missed that.
Sorry 3:10 | 12:58 a.m. May 25, 2009
He just might be a QB coach at UU and show their sorry red faces how its done.
Gee, has the U produced ANY, yes ANY QB of the stature of Young or McMahon or Nielson or even Detmer or Bosco. How about...maybe some other position? A little rivalry is a good thing but look at the long term quality of the program.
FACT | 2:29 a.m. May 25, 2009
beck made a team. good for him. he will last maybe one year, and kruger will reveal his flaws during practice by lighting him up on a weekly basis, and kittie fans will cry just like beck did during his time down south.

KRUGER WILL ALWAYS BE OPEN !!!
GO UTES !!!
HAHAHAHAHA!!! | 9:51 a.m. May 25, 2009
It's so dang funny to read the negative yoot ocmments about Beck. They still haven't gotten over that game where Beck snatched victory from the jaws of defeat after time expired in their very own Rice-A-Roni Stadium! Let's see what significant thing was it the yoots did in that game? Oh yeah they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Fact? No, not quite. | 10:13 a.m. May 25, 2009
"FACT | 2:29 a.m. May 25, 2009
beck made a team. good for him. he will last maybe one year, and kruger will reveal his flaws during practice by lighting him up on a weekly basis, and kittie fans will cry just like beck did during his time down south. KRUGER WILL ALWAYS BE OPEN !!!
GO UTES !!!"

You will eat your words.

You're a dweeb. He's already lasted 2 years and very likely already made more money in those 2 years then you will in your entire life.

I'll take your "Kruger will always be open!" and raise you a "Harline is still open!" AND "4th and 19th!"
Hey Genius | 10:56 a.m. May 25, 2009
If you are going to try to raise a Ute fan at least know it was 4th and 18, not 19. Anyways, I will raise you 2 BCS Championships, 2 undefeated seasons in 4 years, and Kruger, Dale, Smith, and Johnson are all still open. You can try to raise me a '84 pretend championship if you want. Anyways, rivalry aside, I hope Beck does great in the NFl, along with Kruger, Smith, A. Smith, Sean Smith, Vakapuna, Weddle, and every other player that comes out of the MWC. The bigger the mark they make on the NFL, the more legit it makes the conference. Beck will do well if given the chance, he is smart, athletic, and has a great arm. Best of luck to every player out of the MWC in the NFL, even Collie.
Harry | 2:16 p.m. May 25, 2009
I don't read Ute stories and cannot comment on BYU fans' blogs, but the Ute fans do love Cougar stories. Keep up the interest fans at East High on the hill.
BCS Champs, huh? | 3:23 p.m. May 25, 2009
You'll raise us 2 BCS Championships? What Championships would those be? I believe Florida won it last year and USC won it the 2004 season when the U went undefeated. Granted, those were both great Ute teams...but those weren't championships. And the funniest thing to me about all this is that the players, the ones actually doing the competing, don't care nearly as much about the rivalry and all the trash-talking banter as the fans do...especially once they've graduated and/or moved on to the NFL. Being a Cougar fan, I'm hoping Beck, Collie, and all the other BYU alumni do well in the pros...but I also hope Alex Smith gets the starting job back, Steve Smith keeps tearing it up in Carolina, and Weddle keeps making big plays in San Diego.
What a crack up! Utes are funny | 5:08 p.m. May 25, 2009
Championships? Hilarious! Salt Lake City is the one pretending. The BCS is a joke. The 1984 Cougars are the only real football champions ever out of the state of Utah. End of discussion.
Anonymous | 7:58 p.m. May 25, 2009
I see the Ute faithful are still obsessed with BYU past and present. How else do you explain all of these laim comments over and over again, week in and week out.
Utah Fan | 8:34 p.m. May 25, 2009
Some have complained about all the articles on John Beck. Even though I am a Ute fan, there is nothing wrong with this reporting. After all, most people in Utah are BYU fans, and if there is a market for it, you will see articles supporting the interests of that market.

Good luck Beck. I hope you do well, but not too well against my favorite team, the Steelers!
To Carrots at 4:53 | 6:14 a.m. May 26, 2009
We may not reach a 6 game losing streak, but likely 4 or 5 games in a row carried over from last years miserable ending. But hey, a loss to a good team in a NEW stadium is better than a loss in the Vegas Bowl to AZ. So things are getting better, just like the economy.

When will this season end? I'm already tired of BYU fans trying to remind themselves that "things aren't that bad" by playing the 1984 card. Hopefully 1984 and the anti-depressants work. The players on this years team weren't even born then - well maybe half of them weren't.
jefe | 7:46 a.m. May 26, 2009
Good luck with the Ravens, John. Hang on to the ball please.
RE: To Carrots at 4:53 | 8:18 a.m. May 26, 2009
I believe it was a Yewt who first brought up 1984. Why would you continue to add to all the stupidity? Actually the best comment was the Yewt who said they have 2 BCS Championships. And Yewt fans keep saying that BYU fans are delusional.
Ute myopia | 2:36 p.m. May 27, 2009
For all the delusions of grandeur up north, Bronco still has a better overall record and more conf titles than KWhitt. BYU, not utah is coming off 3 straight years of double digit wins and being ranked, utah just finished their first of both in 4 years.
Congrats on your BCS Championship, oh wait I mean Sugar Bowl victory. I am still laughing from that comment.
And for all the Beck hating utes out there, just remember that Alex Smith is about one season from replacing Ryan Leaf as the worst first round QB draft pick in NFL history.
Ute fans you need to dial it back a notch. We all know you are going to disappear next year when you go 8-5 or 9-4 aqnd finish in 3rd or 4th in the MWC like you did in 2005-2007.
Re: Ute myopia | 7:18 a.m. May 28, 2009
BronKo has ONE more victory, and ONE more conference title than Whittingham, but Whittingham has TWO more Coach of the Year Awards.

BronKo has ONE win over a team finishing their season ranked in the Top-25. Whittingham has FIVE, plus an additional 3 who were ranked at the time we played them.

BronKo has five wins over teams from a BCS conference. Whittingham has SEVEN!

BronKo has only TWO Bowl wins, and only to unranked teams with a combined record of 13-13. Whittingham has FOUR Bowl wins, with only 7-5 [#24] Ga. Tech having fewer than 8 wins. Don't even get me started on "how many BCS Bowl games/wins?" does BronKo have.

The tdS has accomplished NOTHING since the inception of the MWC. In '01, '06, and '07, your BEST teams, you've only beaten ONE ranked opponent (an opponent the Utes beat that year also), and compiled a 2-3 postseason record. You speak of Ute "delusions of grandeur", but WE weren't the ones throwing Tortillas on our field at our season opener in 2001. WE never printed up "Quest for Perfection" T-shirts.

Bitter, bitter zoob!

GO UTES!!!
Not clear | 9:12 a.m. May 28, 2009
I don't understand the caption. When was Beck's "first chance" to "start over"?

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