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Woman abducted for converting to LDS Church, police say
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This is what the GOP right wingers think of the LDS church guys. Yet the state of Utah keeps hanging their hat on the GOP. Why?
Am I missing something here?
Problem: The LDS Church has a lay ministry. No one's getting rich and driving sports cars off the tithing. Virtually all of the "brainwashing" is performed by 20-year-old volunteer missionaries and unpaid local bishops and Sunday School teachers. None of the typical motivations to brainwash apply, and there's no dictatorship-like structure to accomplish it.
Are we simply to believe that the LDS Church was so ingeniously designed that's it's a self-perpetuating brainwashing machine, indoctrinating minions so thoroughly that they eventually become the brainwashers themselves--everyone in the system completely unaware of their puppetlike role?
Or are we to believe that the insidious power structure of the General Authorities is behind all this--that by merely speaking twice a year in General Conference and corresponding with Area Authorities, that they're able to perpetuate the great indoctrination machine, and that they secretly rake in the tithing for themselves, buying mansions and so cleverly perpetrating the entire conspiracy that no one has ever found out?
A 19 year old girl is able to make her own decision. She is moved out of the house and is living on her own. She can choose what she believes as an adult. So "two wrongs" and "bravo" you don't have a leg to stand on nor a brain in your head.
As for the comment from "Chances Are" on the standing of evangelicals and the GOP, LDS people know how other religions might view ours and that is their opinion. LDS in Utah would rather follow God than Liberal know-nothings any day of the week.
You don't have to believe in our doctrine, but YOU are either dishonest and hypocritical or completely ignorant if you claim we do anything other than what I have said. We don't. You should try really listening some time.
And I'd like to know what scientists that person at 4:30 was referring to that were supposedly killed by the church. If you're going to make such ridiculous remarks, be prepared with some backup.
Her family disapproves of her choice of religion - and they have a right to do that - they do not, however, have a right to break the law to express their disapproval.
No matter what your feelings towards religion in general and/or the LDS Church in particular, what happened to this young woman is wrong. I hope she is found safe.
Get a life, and quite being such a bigot! You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
Where this story turns from love and concern to control and abuse is when the daughter is "kidnapped." I'm a little less concerned with her joining a church, or making a choice that her parents disagree with, and more so with her safety with an allegedly abusive father.
...and the FLDS Mormons in Texas would be a much better, and less controversial choice?...
I don't see this as a Mormon versus non-Mormon issue. It's about control. The girl's faith of choice is a minor secondary issue.
Even if daddy thinks the LDS faith is a load of bull, it's still the girl's choice. I hope she's OK.
"Danielle called the sheriff's office saying she didn't feel safe due to past physical abuse, he said."
These are not simply the actions of concerned parents. (Whether or not the LDS Church is true is irrelevant.) She was worried about abuse before they got there. If she actually called the police to tell them about her father, it seems she had an inkling what she could be in for if he did show up.
As real to us as the consciousness of life itself is the awareness of the ability to make a choice. There exists an eternal law that each human soul shall shape its own destiny. "No one individual can make happiness or salvation for another."
(David O. Mckay May 10, 1961, BYU Speeches of the Year)
I hope the parents soon realize this is not going to help the situaiton. We can pray that our children will have the same beliefs that we do but force is not hte answer.
There is NO excuse for this act either legally or morally.
I hope everyone is praying for this poor girl and I hope the FBI and other authorities catch up with them before they harm her.
It reminds me of the kidnapped bride a few years ago...
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