Hey Calgary and others-How bout this to chew on: What do you think
would have happened in this series, if WE had been the ones that were
GIFT-WRAPPED Pau Gasol, for say CJ and Jarron Collins??? The Lakers lost nothing
for Pau, correct? So what do you think would have happened in this series???? We
would have CRUSHED the Lakers. And most likely taken the whole championship.
Think about it. The Lakers got an ALL STAR for Javaris Crittenton!!!! Hit the
jackpot for a nickel!!!How can anyone, ANYONE go off on Jerry Sloan, or
any of this team when a) we missed 148 games to injury, and b) we played the
Lakers, who already have the best (and most hated by me) player in the league,
paired with an all star center????? Get a grip all!! Give us an all star,
and we too would dominate. by the way, we were in most of those games in
this series. I was impressed. Last note. I hope Boozer is gone next
year, and we make a smart trade for a player who can shoot outside AND create
his own shot.
Game 5 MVP's Gary Zelenski and Steve Javie.only way to guarantee a more
lopsided officiating game is to add Dick Bavetta.Anyone who believes these
games are called straight up, has been at the pharmacy window far too long.not mention smoking something other than tobacco.That said, the coach
dictates who plays and who doesn't.While Whiskey was "injured" the Jazz were
winning with younger less expensive players. It is a team game. When whiskey
returned it was no longer team play. you could read the players faces as Whiskey
was barking at them. Ask Korver away from the camera.I am certain he is not a
Whiskey fan.Let Whiskey opt out. Then when no one wants to pay him 30
million a year. Offer him 1.2 mil a year. Payback for lost time.Sloan needs to
give all players the green light to keep them in the game.horney is
shooting coach, right? Can't move up till you do your current job.
they do not care. It is beyond belief we have to do our own thing with the
letters and the emails, because Jerrys family and family of 20,000 refuse to see
the obvious and are more afraid of change like when Bear Bryant came into
lol at proud sloanaholic: Keep up good work? 0-4 vs Phil in playoffs is a good
work? Keeping Price on the bench for half season is a good work? my oh my....
Please tune these idiots out coach. Keep up the good work.
unfortunate the vote in this poll is split down the middle, translation
"sloanaholics please go"
anonymous, do not be ridiculous. Of course Phil is much much better coach then
Sloan. Popovich is better coach then Sloan, heck even Nate MacMillan always
outchoaches him as well. Sloan had the best point guard ever and best PF ever to
play the game for 15 seasons that is far from talent scraps. Lets put it this
way. If not Miller, Stockton and Malone Sloan would never last so long. He is
average coach who got lucky at the right time. Don't forget he was fired from
Chicago. And let remind you that Phil still was coaching Chicago when
Jordan went for first retirement. So he did not quite because he did not have
Jordan. There you go.
To Calgary Jazz: Well, should I believe you or my own eyes? Maybe they
broadcast different games in the Great White North. You think Phil Jackson is a
better coach than Jerry Sloan? Jackson has only coached the NBA's darlings in
Chicago and LA, while Sloan has spent his career in the NBA's bargain basement
market. Apples and oranges, CJ. Make Sloan and Jackson switch teams and Sloan
would have a better record than Jackson has. Phil Jackson would not dare take a
job without a Michael Jordan or a Kobe Bryant or some other celebrity player,
and without David Stern's bootlicking, because he knows his teams would would
lose like all the "ordinary" NBA teams. My dog could have coached the MJ-Bulls
to a championship. Jerry Sloan has made competitive teams out of scraps of
talent for 20 years, and without him, the Jazz franchise would have been moved
out of SLC a long time ago. Maybe even to Calgary?
To re: calgary jazz: Do you have on your resume playing at least one single game
against current NBA players on organized level? Student? other leagues? I do and
with few actually. If you so good why you do no analyse what went wrong
instead sounding like broken record about how system is good but players do not
execute it? This is absolutely utterly ridiculous. Jerry's system is outdated. I
pointed that already. His defence is based on preventing layups and thus all
players collapsing in the paint allowing long range shots which usually kills
Jazz - 2 years ago San Antonio, last year and this year Lakers. Any team just
needs to play either isolation in the post or draw and kick outside and Jazz are
done unless other team is missing wide open threes. It is not players fault -
they play how their coach wqnats them to play. Same goes on offense where
it is based on pounding inside - last year Lakers had fun with that smothering
smaller Jazz, this year was same. Boozer nubers are actually are very decieving,
he was not a factor in these playoffs except in one lucky game where Bryant was
It was nice that the announcers agreed with Sloan - no calls inside for the Jazz
- wouldn't necessarily have won the game but did slow down the momentum.
Usually i'm biased, I admit it, but it's nice when there is some validation!Lakers are talented, have to give them that - but i'm going to have to
go for anyone BUT the Lakers in the playoffs!
You may not like the negative comments about Sloan, but remember ONE thing,
Sloan and O'Connor built this team after Malone and Stock retired! I will
guarantee that. Others had input but those two were the deciders. Now who's to
blame? Miller only had control of the finances and money paid to players, the
ultimate decision on drafting, free agents, and trades belong to the above
mentioned two. Take that to the bank!
YES you can blame sloan for talent and personnel the team has,sloan
has a hand in every personnel decision, who they fdraft givng shis approval to
trades and signings, helping decide what players they want, who to get rid of,
and choosing who fits his system.So YES you can blame him, if not
totally, atleast in part.
to anonymous posters who do not even bother creating nicknames: Answer
this question - how decides who is starting, who is playing at all, when to make
substitutions, what is the offensive and defensive game plan vs specific
opponent, who is defending who and so on? I will answer for you - it is coach.
Not like Boozer and Millsap say before game - "hey we are going to take care" of
Gasol and Bynum. Not like AK decides that he needs to be on perimeter clearing
up space for pick and roll and sets his time limit in game two at 16 min despite
scoring 10 pts and going to free throw line more then any other Jazz player in
40 min. It is not like Price sits on the bench half season because he doesn't
want to play. It is not like Collin starts in 3 games vs Lakers because he
convinces his teammates he can defend Bynum or Gasol. It is COACH who makes
those decision and they unfortuntaley cost Jazz numerous wins and were results
of constant playoff failures. Heck Sloan even is calling every play from
the bench and you say it is not his fault?
Jazz are simply a mentally weak team, and everybody needs to stop with the ref.
conspiracy theories, if Sloan would pay close attention to game, and not the
refs. the players might do the same. A loss, is a loss, is a loss, stop with
conspiracy theories, it is evident, the jazz need to change things, otherwise it
is insanity to think results will be any different. I think I might give up on
jazz, they leave me no hope. Literally, no hope.
Enough with the excuses, when will Utah finally admit that the refs., are refs,
and that they are not out conspiring against the Jazz. Please! Man up, continue
being great fans, but stop the madness! Stop the conspiracy theories. The Jazz's
bench are those who came out on game 5, and made it happen. The Jazz starting
line is mentally weak, that's it! I would fire all the Jazz starters, and stick
with the bench who have a bigger heart, and a more refined mental ability for
the game. One might remember that the definition of insanity might include the
following: doing the same thing everytime, and expecting different results. As
far as Sloan, well, now I know why the Jazz spend more time worrying about the
refs. than the game. Thank you, for your time.
fans are so dumb. Honestly, blamming a coach in basketball is lame. You might
blame the front office for getting sub-par talent or you might even want to
blame the players themsevles but please don't blame the coach - especially a
coach like Jerry who has a ga-zillion wins under his belt as well as conference
titles. Sloan is a great coach and the Jazz's problems are not coaching they are
player problems. Utah needs better players - pretty simple really. Darin
Williams is actually the only keeper in the bunch.
to anonymous: San Antonio is neither big city nor it does have flashy players
who sell lots of jerseys: Duncan is called mister fundamental for reason, Parker
and Ginobili are not americans so their jersies are not even in top 20 for
sales. But San Antonio has great coach and they won how many titles in last 10
years??? So take of you "NBA against Utah" glasses and accept the fact that
Sloan is a loser in playoffs, you can't argue with numbers, his 94-98 record in
playoffs, and 0-4 record vs Phil is more then obvious to tell anybody who is to
blame for Jazz failures. And if you want to talk basketball lets talk
strategy, Jazz defensive lapses, offensive startegy, game switching momentum,
coaching and not that "refs hate Utah or NBA doesn't want Jazz to win bias". But you obviously have no idea about it right?
Jerry has overacheived his entire carreer. He has stood by principle and
loyalty. He may not have won a championship, but in my eyes he has been a
bigger winner than any other coach in the league because of his example and
principle.Thanks Jerry Sloan!
Calgary JazzPhoenix had the four best 3pt fg% in the league this
year and we see how will that worked for them.Phoenix also scored
the most points per game this year, again we see how wil that worked.Charlotte was in the top 10 for giving up the least ammount of points a game,
that really seemed to work for them.Phoenix was the top fg% team in
the NBA this year, but that also didn't work.Charlotte was in the
top 10 for oppt fg%, but still didn't make the playoffs.Phoenix,
Indiana, & New Jersey all finished in the top 10 for 3pt fg%, but look how good
they did.New York had the 6th best 3pt defence, but that didn't help
much.Toronto was the best ft shooting team, that sure won a lot of
game for them.So everyone can keep throwing out all the stats, but
it take the right combo of all of them to win. Most of the top teams are pretty
good in all areas not just one or two. The jazz could score pretty good, but not
defend very good.I'll always be a Jazz Fan.
Nobody wants him back including the players? What is your source for that
global idiotic statement. By the way, I know something about basketball and I
can pretty much guarantee I played it at a higher level than you have. The
system works when the team executes it. Unfortunately the team struggled with
execution at times during this season. Sloan is a great coach and a first
ballot hall of famer. They don't let underachievers or people who don't know
what they are doing into the hall on a first ballot.
You silly fools....Sloan called the time out because Ronnie Brewer was hurt. Go
back and watch the replay, he asked to come out. Sloan will leave when he
wants to. I laugh when people suggest Hornecek...I love him, but he has never
coached, he is unproven and who knows what kind of coach he will be. Sloan is
one of the best coaches in history of this league. There are so many coaches
who have never won the big one....so lay off. I think it's so funny how someone
says, "a season ticket holder told me......"Nice source. The Jazz are so
tight lipped....you honestly believe that they would leak something like that to
a season ticket holder? Season ticket holders aren't the Crimson club...they
aren't boosters. Get a clue. One more thing....some guy who I walked past on
the street told me we are going to trade Brevin Knight and Jarron Collins for
Dwight Howard. It's on!!!
What a load of disappointment in the Jazz turned out to be last night. Booooozer
is just that, maybe a boooozer under a towel but he was absent last night. AND
Okur, if he's really injured ok but even when he wasn't injured he didn't do
much in defense. True he is usually a good perimeter shooter but in the paint
he's hopeless. Brewer and C.J. Miles ought to go back to school if they were
ever there to begin with. AK had a good game in the beginning. D-Will received
no help from his team mates. Ronnie Price was doing very well in the 4th quarter
until Sloan sent in a cold D-Will and things went downhill from there. Ronnie
Price should be the back-up to D-Will all season long, not Knight. Knight can't
fight his way out of a paper bag let te truth be told.Come back next
season coach Sloan with a monster forward and center to offset the Lakers.
To Calgary Jazz: What works in the NBA is (1) be in a big-time city that David
Stern likes, (2) buy the flashy players that sell NBA jerseys, and (3) let the
NBA officials baby your players and handicap the no-name players [you can
make the calls in the NBA without watching the game---just ask who was involved
in the play]. Today's NBA is about nothing but entertainment and sales, and
Jerry Sloan is about nothing but basketball. [I'll take basketball any day,
wherever I can find it, which means either watch Jerry's team or watch only the
NCAA.] You need to learn at least this much about the NBA before posting
your own nonsense.
Jerry Sloan has been an underachiever during his whole tenure as coach of the
Jazz. He shouldn't even be coaching because he'll never win anything. Jerry go
back to your John Deere tractor and plow a field. You can't screw that up too
On the floor where coaches can't interrupt. That's why Boooooooozer rhymes with
To Without Sloan and other Sloan lovers. Learn something about basketball
before posting such nonsense. Jerry showed he has no clue how to beat
Lakers by talking after 1 quarter and saying that "we are lucky to make some
jumpshots but we need to get ball inside more and get to the free throw line".
That is so predictable and exactly what Lakers wanted Jazz to do. Thats why
Lakers went on the run in second quarter because instead of spreading the floor
Jazz were forcing inside and got their shots blocked, passes picked and were as
well destroyed by pathented way to destroy the Jazz - drive and kick back to
open 3 pointers. Kenny was pointing that during halftime. San Antonio did that
to us 2 years ago during playoffs. Jerry still doesn't get it. He can't accept
the fact that you can win games other way then his 1 to 4 style. He still can't
accept the fact that 3 is more then 2. Please just retire already with your
outdated system - IT DOESN'T WORK in todays NBA. It is not players fault.
No Jerry Sloan? Then no Jazz. Move them wherever you want, 'cause I won't be
interested. Jerry is still the toughest guy in the NBA and in his prime he
would have been all over an egotist like Kobe Bryant until Kobe sat down and
cried. All of you couch-potato coaches at home who think you know more than
Jerry? You need a slap in the head.
When Huntsman steps down, time for Sloan.
this team would be 25-57 at best. Williams is the only player on the team that
can play with elite players in the NBA everybody else is undersized, one
dimensional, or slow. If you would actually step back and watch the entire
offense (instead of focusing on your insightful observations like "we should
shoot more 3-pointers" and "we should let Miles go 1-on-1") you would see that
Sloan is one the true geniuses of basketball offense. If all the players are
not going at full speed then the offense stagnates, it's not the game-plan its
You can't blame sloan for lack of talent. Collins, Okur, Boozer, none have the
talent to play any interior defense. Trade for someone that is a force in the
middle. (the Jazz may have to give up brewer, or anyone...)
The NBA is entertainment. I think it is the hardest game to ref of all the
major sports, and frankly the subjectiveness of the reffing hurts the
credibility of the game.The consistency is terrible all around the
league, and it is rather maddening to see so much talent and have the idea that
it is skill vs skill and then have that image turned to illusion. Calls are
missed all the time on both sides, or more correctly, they aren't called
consistently. Sometimes a touch is a foul, sometimes two guys tackling another
player is not a foul. I find I enjoy the NBA more if I think of it
like "Professional Wrestling." It is a show put on, and the issues with reffing
increase the drama and uncertainty of the show. For those who want credibility
in athletics, I'd recommend a different sport that is easier to ref or a sport
that is better ref-ed.
Ronnie Price should have been the back-up point guard!! Knight doesn't belong in
Yeah, Jerry didn't guard Kobe a lick, Jerry didn't hustle after loose balls,
Jerry let Lamar slide into the paint at will...it's all Jerry's fault...goodbye
Loozer & Jokur...Mark ain't payin for laziness, Larry would approve!
Sloan isn't the problem. It's no-D playing pansies like Boozer that are the
problem. Give Jerry some men to work with to surround Williams and the Jazz will
do far better than going on a coach hiring/firing-a-thon.
What was Sloan thinking when he destroyed the momentum and called a
timeout and then put a cold Williams back on the floor.
Just retire already please...Nobody ( fans, players) wants you back after this
season. You to outdated for todays basketball.
Phil takes over in one year. Pray the rumor is wrong. YOu need to call the
office and so does eveyone. I will by friday.
Did I read the article right? Did Ronnie Price get ejected? I think I missed
something. I don't remember him getting ejected. I loved how Ronnie Price stood
up to Kobe. Ronnie B. could learn something. He always looked so scared guarding
him. Its great being a Monday Quarterback but Ronnie Price should have been
backing up D-Will all season.
Youv'e reached THAT age, and staying here is only going to dimimish your legacy.
If your as smart as you want everyone to believe then you will be able to make
this decision fairly easy. It's the same in all sports, too many times people
that have had great careers stay a few years too long and tarnish what they
worked so hard for. Enjoy your favorite hobby as a collector and gentleman
farmer, and let someone else take control of the rat race called the NBA. Best
wishes in retirement.
could the news get any worse - another year of Sloan and his tired philosophy?
Good thing we don't run plays for 3 point shots like the Lakers and other teams
(like, say the 97,98 bulls) do, then we wouldn't have made it to that great 8
seed position! Please no more of Sloan/Johnson's 1950s basketball!! Bring in
Hornacek.. I beg of you!!
Just as I had thought. Then a season ticket holder told me tonight over the
phone, he heard Johnson was going to be the coach in 2010.This
franchise then has a very bleak future.Not much hope.This proves what I have been saying for months.Because the fans
let it happen.Enjoy.Greg will still hear from me
though.We will not go anywhere for 3-4 years with Sloan and
I'm not a Sloan Hater ... but Jerry, I think it's time to go.You
look tired, the team looks tired and many of the fans need/want a change.I have to admit. It's probably fitting for you toe leave the same year
Larry left us. It would be a poignant end to a long and storied career.Thanks for all you've done.
Funny thing was I was remarking to my sister-inlaw, "If I were the head coach I
would throw such a fit about the non-calls for my team I would get tossed and
try to spark my team!" two minutes later Jerry was ejected! Funny thing!!! One
after another after another arm slap, hand touch, shove and grope was totally
ignored! Kobe was this "Untouchable" guy to the refs, they wouldn't call one on
him near the end and he definately fouled TWICE! Do I think the Jazz could have
won the game? YES! Do I think they could have won the series? Anything can
happen but the reality is: "NO!!!!" However you have to call a game fairly! That
is what I hate about the NBA, if your Kobe Bryant, you can get away with stuff,
if your Mr. Off The Bench, then you can't! It is like the ref's, "Oh that was a
travel, but it was Kobe, and it was a cool move, so we'll let it slide this
time, and probably next time too if it looks that cool!!! Or If He Hit's That
Wicked SHot Again!!!