you did say at least one thing correctly. byu does win 10 to 11 games a year,
but thats not 13 so there ya have it
Starting with the draft held in 1993. BYU 33 players drafted. BYU 1st
round picks 2Utah 33 players drafted. Utah 1st round picks 4Top 100
overall: BYU - 2Utah - 5Top 100 overall: BYU - 8 Utah - 11Top 200 overall:BYU - 20Utah - 20Overall Pretty even for supposed Older and Younger Brother (you can decide
which is which). Looking at these results, I would say they are twins.
Guess what? BYU's recruiting classes are getting BETTER AND BETTER TOO!!! And so
far they show more talent than Utah's classes. Everyone complains that BYU
doesn't have athletes. That's because BYU is still playing with Crowton's
players. Bronco has only been coach for 4 years and because of the missionary
cycle the older players are still Crowton's, and they are still winning 10-11
games a season. So BYU has only begun to feel the impact of Mendenhall's
players, and with the up and coming athletes getting better and better there are
a lot of great things that can happen for BYU.
SadlyThe MWC is 'crowing' about 16 total players drafted. The fact
that it's the highest number ever; truly illustrates the difference between the
BCS haves and the MWC have nots.
Every time I make the the mistake of reading the posts of one of these articles
I feel dumber afterwards. Its a constant back and forth between BYU and Utah
fans bragging about which team is better and using juvenile insults like "BYZoo"
and "rice chex stadium". Really, are we in the fifth grade? Couldn't get more
creative than that? Even when the article really isn't talking much about
either teams but the conference as a whole these same ridiculous posts follow.
Face it, both schools have great programs with great coaches and have been
keeping the mountain west conference afloat in both football and basketball (not
that there haven't been some other great teams like TCU in football and UNLV
and SDSU in basketball.) That's what makes it such a great rivalry, both teams
a usually contending for a championship. Stupid comments like the one I usually
read here make both BYU and Utah fans and both programs look bad. Next time I'm
tempted the read the post I'll definitely do something more productive with my
Utah DOES consistently place better players in the NFL. Currently there are 20
Utes on a NFL roster. How about the high and mighty cougars? Only 11. Utah
has nearly double. Check your facts. Just because BYU has a streak of placing
one player in the draft doesn't mean they will succeed in the NFL like John Beck
who got cut the other day.
Urban Meyer established Utah as a powerhouse football program in 2004. After
that season we lost nearly every coach and coach Whit faced a tough task
rebuilding the program. After 2 seasons of rebuilding Utah was BCS material
last season but injuries and inconsistency caused them 4 losses. Utah now is a
powerhouse and will be for years to come. Their recruiting classes get better
and better every season. Utah is expected to be BETTER than BYU, the team that
was supposed to bust the BCS with an experienced team last season and this year.
BYU is so overrated, the cougs need to face THE TRUTH
To Fireworks: Where were you picked in the draft again? Regardless of Collie
being picked after 19 other receivers he was still picked, and in the 4th round.
Dick, I get the distinct feeling you have no idea what a cover corner is...
I find it interesting every time I read this section that BYU fans instantly
downplay any suuccess of the so called "yewts" and there are always some utah
fans that answer in similar fashion. I grew up watching the Zoobies and enjoyed
watching Steve, Ty and the gang. I am however tired of so many flapping their
gums and treating it as a holy war. I went to school at the U and enjoy watching
all the success they have had while BYZoo continues to melt down when have any
opportunity to make a statement for the school, state of Utah and the MWC. It
happened with Crowton when he screamed BCS and it has happened twice under the
current coach especially this year.
Judging from the Cougar responses....THE TRUTH HURTS.
Utah utes drafted since 941.luther ellis2.3.
TO "Re: The Truth"While I do not have Utah at the top of my college
football teams list, it's clear they have a top program. Two undefeated seasons
in four years. They didn't do that with smoke and mirrors.
These players drafted by the NFL (and others chosen by free agency) are to be
congratulated.However, it makes one wonder if the NCAA brain trust
isn't making draft decisions for the NFL teams. A number of excellent MWC
players were left on the table.
So I guess the Utes of 2007 and 2006 were one of those weak MWC talent teams you
talk about? You talk big when your Utes win a conference championship every 4
years but what about in between those 4 years?
"Utah consistently places better players in the NFL draft"I am
pretty sure the article said that BYU has the longest streak on at least one
player drafted, at 15 years. Next in line is New Mexico with a 5 year streak,
and next is UNLV with a 3 year streak.Where's Utah?????That's the problem with Ute fans, they have a winning season every 4 years and
so every 4 years they prance around saying their the best in the world. The 3
years in between each good season they call for their coaches resignation, make
up excuses for why BYU is having a better season, and making sure that they
don't attend any Ute football games.2 good years doth not a good
football PROGRAM make!
BYU IS still a superior program to Utah (but only slightly). There's no
question that Utah's 2004 and 2008 teams were better than BYU teams in those
respective years, but (in the long run) BYU has been a better program. Utah's
team was much better than BYU's last year, but when you say a "program" is
better it contemplates more than just two years out of ten. K-whitt just ties
Crowton for conference championships, not a model of consistency if you ask this
observer. What happens over a series of years IS still relevant. Besides,
until I see a well attended game at rice-chex stadium after Utah has a loss I
can't take Ute fans seriously. After three losing seasons in a row BYU had
fewer empty seats than the U from 2005-2007. A strong program has a strong fan
base rather than the appathetic bandwagon you call the MUSS. As soon as Utah
loses a game or two their fans will disappear like they did in 2005.
BYU still thinks they have a superior program lol. After Utah gets 2 BCS bowl
wins, a number one draft pick, and consistently places better players in the NFL
you would think they would learn. BYU's "superiority" was over 20 years ago!
BYU can only play well against weak MWC talent and will never recruit players
athletic enough to play on the big stage. Maybe BYU should drop their religious
classes and teach some common sense.
almost beat the utes rather than a lucky bounce? i think you are thinking of the
byu game dude, the utah game was like 50 to 10 or something like that. Get it
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha HA!!!!!!!Wow
thats the best laugh I've had in awhile. Thanks!
I couldn't agree with you more!!!!!Our little brothers down south
and further down south.....always are nervous about coming into Aggie
Country.Last year we almost BEAT the Utes except for a lucky bounce
their way.GO AGGIES!!!!! WE WILL RULE!!!!!!
The MWC may not be quite as good as one or two other conferences,but the rise to
the top is not an over night prospect. It is a gradual increase year after year.
Which is what all of you PAC 10 and SEC people are worried about. Which is why
you guys take every opportunity toblast the MWC and make them looksmall. Whasn't
the MWC something like 8&2 against the mighty PAC10 this year. Also had winning
records against all of the other conferences!
Sill little Ute troll!!!!!!!!
Dick wrote:TCU, with five players selected, was head and shoulders
above the rest. The popularity of the Horned Frogs was so evident the
ever-conscious-of-in-state-affairs publicity staff at the Fort Worth school
couldn't let it go and noted TCU had the most players drafted of any Texas
school including Texas (3), Texas A&M (3), Texas Tech (3) and Baylor (3).Good to note. It works well when recruiting the blue chips that you had
as many players picked as Southern Cal.What does that last line
mean? USC had 11 players taken in the draft, the most of anyone. Who had as
many players picked as Southern Cal? Did Dick mean TCU, with its five, had as
many? Dick, five and eleven aren't the same even when you are trying to
favorably compare the MWC and the Pac-10.
Clearly just another utah troll trying to stir the potKrueger and
Collie will both have good careers in the NFLIt'll be interesting to
see where King Louie ends up; he should be one of those 10-year career kickers
if he finds the right team
At least Brian Johnson still has a team to play or sit on the bench for. Either
way it is more money than John Beck is making right now, not having a job. Actually it is probably a good thing Miami was kind enought to release
him, so he can find a real team to play with. In the mean time he can come
coach a little league team.
I wonder if jobeck cried when he got cut yesterday.
Yes, Hall will produce them. BYU statistically always has great #'s and overall
record with a senior QB. With so many who left Utah's team, and many of the so
call "best" who didn't get drafted, that leaves a loss of fireworks on that
RE:fireworks? You stated Wyoming beat Tennessee handily...for real?
Since when is beating a team 13-7 a "handily" win. Especially when all your
points come off of interception returns. The MWC has their best
draft and still it is below the other real BSC conferences. Utah had a great
year, but they won't be a "force" without a proven qb. TCU was very talented
and may be this year. BYU is what it is, a good team that it great against
weaker opponents, but very average against good teams. Get real folks and
accept what the MWC is and always will be.
Whatever happened to him? Wow, that was a big and fast fall from grace ...
the thing kruger will miss the most about playing for the utes is max hallhis nickname in the pros will be "freddie" everyone's worst nightmare
I guess he mentioned Max Hall because a besting of his 6 turnover performance
might be fun to watch. Why didn't this dude mention Harvey Unga, the most
talented returning player for byu and probably in the MWC? and
correction, 19 receivers were taken before Collie was picked. Pretty amazing to
be picked 20th in your position when you're the self proclaimed best receiver to
ever play at your school. The Utes will be a force again because of
their defense and we should have another good year of MWC football. I can't
imagine Wyoming being any worse than last year, yet last year they beat
Tennessee handily IN TENNESSEE!!Hopefully the new coach at SDSU can
make that team, which has a lot of talent, into a conference contender.
Wake up . . . your hands are still on the keyboard!
Were there really 18 wide receivers taken in the draft before Austin Collie?
I enjoyed the re-cap of the draft. On whole a pretty balanced article for a
change. I do question your conclusion that TCU was "heads and shoulders above
the rest." Really? TCU didn't have a player selected until round 5. They had
3 selected in round 6 and 1 in round 7. Yes they had 5 selected, but Utah had 4
selected including 2 on the first day. I can only assume this is your attempt
to downplay the draft results of Utah in an effort to minimize the difference
between Utah and BYU in the eyes of those that matter, NFL teams. I hope that
all those drafted and signed as free agents by both schools get the opportunity
to prove whether or not they belong on an NFL roster, but as much as it must
frustrate you, some recognition of the accomplishments of Utah this season are
due. While I wouldn't expect you to recognize the Utes, you don't need to
minimize their results either. But you probably can't help it.Magic
Max Hall will DOMANATE the league and win the Heisman.
had a horrible season and 32 players drafted. That means the league is
underacheiving. Clearly, the MWC was better than the PAC-10 last year top to
disappointed to see Smith leave Utah. With all the new offenses and quarterbacks
in the MWC he really could have gone much higher had he stayed one more season,
and the Utes could've used him. Oh well. If there's one thing we know, it's that
Whitt will have that defense humming right along come game time.
Re:Neal, better than Weddle, I think not. You said he COULD BE, so I know you
are not being definitive. Futhermore, going with your thoughts, it wouldn't
shock me if Kruger became an all pro. I just don't think it's the safe bet. I
hope Kruger suceeds but don't forget how unique and special Weddle is. He led
the Chargers in tackles and makes plays all over the field.
Just keep it up. Great to see the kids get this chance to show their stuff on
the big stage. Hope they are successful.
Exciting to see these great players drafted. Kruger could be better than
Weddle.Let's not forget the guys who signed free agent contracts.
More than a feww of them may be on rosters beginning next fall.What
a thrill to see so many dreams come true for these great young men.