As a teen, my home was also home to three exchange students that I loved like
brothers, but now we have broken all relations with their countries, and what I
want to know is, if we can have two wars going at one time, why can't we help
the Latin countries that are rich in natural resources, oil, and fruits and
timber? Why do we let the same familes rule these countries, that have ruled for
hundreds of years? The leaders are rich, and the people poor. We need to help
these countries, they are all in our backyards!! I thank you.Billy
wow... i don't think that immigrants legal or illegal is the problem here. you
see as Abraham Lincoln once said that the greatness of the American north was
that INDUSTRY allowed all men to prosper. our American corporations are moving
overseas because of cheap labors. therefore no matter what our jobs here are
going to foreigners shouldn't we be blaming our big American industries?
Illegals are Not Entitled To The American Dream. I am.They are
entitled to Dream of coming to American in a Legal Manner. Thats All.
The American dream didn't shrivel. It was stolen by corporate america and the
greedy rich. What was ours is now theirs in aces and we are their dupes.
Illegal immigration brings crime, not only is it a crime,but it brings crime.
However, there are plenty of illegals who are hard working and not participating
in other crimes( other than being here illegally) We also have a huge problem in
our society with lazy, tattoed, body pierced mostly caucasion losers. There is
also a problem with the rich kids that don't show up to work, because their
parents are always there to bail them out. All are a big drain on society.
Illegal immigration is the easiest target. Easy to make blanket statement that
illegals are hurting our economy. I agree we need to address this problem. I
agree deport illegals. All crimes for all people regardless of their race should
be punished much more than they are now. Enforce the law, stop doing plea deals
and suspended sentences. Stop making it so expensive to house criminals. Our
prisons should cut back on all convenieces & on food. Prison should be pretty
darn close to h-ll. It will save us money and it will work better. If they want
rehab, they can pay for it. Cold turkey works fine by me.
You people still think in individual terms. Illegal immigration is not about a
bunch of individuals deciding to come to the US to improve their family
situation.No. Individuals act based on the larger societal,
business, and political forces at work. You have to ask yourself: What organizations are benefiting from illegal immigration?Here
are a few answers:Drug cartels benefit by importing and distributing
drugs through illegal immigrants.Agricultural companies benefit by
importing and paying for cheap labor.Churches (such as the LDS
Church) benefit by growing their membership base and getting cheap (volunteer)
labor, pay widow's mites (which add up quickly), and free marketing as illegal
immigrants "share the gospel".So who is responsible for illegal
immigration? Drug Cartels, Agricultural Companies, and Churches. They should be
made to feel the stern, harsh penalties and justice our legal system can mete
I think the liberal Democrats are bankrupting the country. They continuously
point at George Bush and want to say that he caused all the deficit spending and
they are only doing whats necessary to get the country on track again. While I
think George Bush spent more than was necessary, I also think the Democratically
controlled congress during Bushes administration has to take some credit. The
Democrats have spent and are spending a mind numbing amount. No one really even
knows how much, because they aren't through. They have spent themselves into a
stupor. They cannot show a direct link between their pending and what it may
accomplish. It is like throwing scoop shovels full of grain at the chickens.
They "hope" it will do something productive.
There is a frequent poster on these threads named Anonymous. Anonymous
demonstrates wisdom and experience dealing with difficult problems. I would like
to ask him to repond here with his solutions to the problem of immigration. I
feel relatively sure that He has had first hand experience. So I am going to ask
him to share with us as soon as He can.
Why should any illegal get consideration? They knowly broke the law to come
here. Some ask,"Wouldn't you break the law to get here if it would better your
family." My answer is a resounding, "Yes!" But, I would have to know their are
penalties for breaking the law. Mercy cannot rob justice. It appears that
neither or both political parties can solve the problem. Its just easier not to
solve the problem and thats what we are doing. We give illegals benefits that
many of our own people don't have. Now thats selective justice if I have ever
seen it. I have nothing against any other nationality or their coming here, just
do it the right way. And keep people like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Barney
Frank out of my face.
I remember a while back when the Sutherland Institute actually was conservative.
What happened? Those who come into our country illegally are breaking a law!
They cry for our compassion, but in reality THEY SHOW NO COMPASSION FOR us when
they freely take jobs (some lower-paying jobs and some jobs where our US
citizens once made a good living) and use our country's "socialistis" benefits
(health care, free education, etc.) I'm concerned and that concern will grow as
citizens begin wakening up to what has been happening in our country.
Like so many have pointed out, it is so frustrating to have the D. News
constantly siding with the illegal "immigrants". Just being here in the first
place without proper documentation makes them illegal, but when they steal
someone else's social security number, it is criminal. Has the government ever
considered having a social security card with a photo of the person beside the
number? Obviously it would be costly, but so is the mess we're in now, & it is
destined to get worse with no end in sight. Is the U.S. expected to accept the
entire population of Mexico & other countries within our borders?
People, its only going to get worse. When Americans are losing their jobs in
massive numbers, and they realize illegal aliens have jobs, just exactly what do
you think is going to happen?We now have the worst government in
history. And look who they are calling terrorists, right wing conservatives
that have been complaining of illegal aliens, abortion, low wages because of
illegal aliens, and the list goes on and on. Take a look at some of
these cops we have nowdays, they could care less if an illegal aliens is here
(even though they took an Oath, to Serve and Protect the US Constitution) but
will slap anything on any US Citizen.
Here's an idea. Build factories on the US side along the Mexican border. Pay
them more than they would earn in their native land, and then have them go back
and forth to their own country each day.They would have their
families there and would be able to give them a little support and would be
issued some type of green card that would enable them to just go back and forth,
not stay in the country as illegals.Then perhaps they can try and
reform their government which is the real reason behind all of their illegal
*** From your statistics (a source would be appreciated)..." ***Go
to Google News, type "Pew Hispanic." The report came out within the last
week.*** "it still sounds like a vast majority are here legally."
***Didn't deny that. I said roughly 1 in 4 are illegal. 12 million
of our 40-45 million Hispanics are either illegal aliens or their children. If
you look at just those who speak only Spanish or who have accents the ratio is
even worse. That is just obvious. Yes, when the ratio is that high we have every
right to "make assumptions." Forgive me for using logic and reason.It is not *my* problem. If Hispanics and lawmakers don't want me to "make
assumptions" they can solve the problem by enforcing our laws and not promoting
How can you feel sorry for the "Immigrants" who are here without a green card,
or legally? There are many people I know who are laid off, and don't have jobs.
Eventually they will have to get off their high horse and take these JOBS!!! So
if you are here illegally I can't feel sorry for you, go back where you came
from!!! If you are here legally, then I do feel for you, I sympathize with you,
and I empathise with you. So let me make my view clear, if you are
someone who can legally work in the United States, I truly feel for your
situation, if your not legal, go back where you came from, or I can't wait till
they catch you for stealing someone's job!!! It may be low paying, but hey, it's
a job some legal person could have!!! I for one am sick of all this
feel good "Political Correctness" in this country, if your not here LEGALLY,
THEN YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS AS A PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY! THEY ARE CRIMINALS!!! It
may sound harsh, but it is THE FACT OF THE MATTER!!! GO HOME!!!!!
Housekeeper, cooks and construction workers are middle class Americans. I resent
my occupation being termed as a job Americans won't do. How is the
average American doing in these times?
Wow, can we have a story about immigrants without without falling into hysterics
about them taking American jobs? Seriously, if you believe that free markets
give optimal results, then you should believe that the market forces which
incentivize people to move to our country and which incentivize an employer to
hire them are bringing a more or less optimal result. I have found
that there are two main groups of people who rabidly support tough immigration
laws: pro-labor liberals and racist conservatives. Both justify their position
by assuming that the well-being of an American is more important than the
well-being of a non-American and that the rest of the public should be forced to
pay higher prices to support their prejudice. The needful "law and
order" aspect of immigration laws could just as easily (and probably more
easily) be met by a more more liberal guest worker system. There is no sense in
bullying people who work, mind their own business, and behave themselves. I say
we could use a lot more of them. Let's put them on the fast track to
I'm all for immigration. I am an immigrant. It cost me a lot of time and money
to become an American. It is something that I value, being part of this great
country. If we make it too easy for people to become American, will they value
it? Anything gained too easily is not valued enough.If someone starts out
their journey in America by breaking the law, is that a relationship we want to
I think everyones American Dream has been taking somewhat of a hit. 401 K's
going away and benefits being dropped, more people without insurance and can't
buy medicine. You can use the the extremes to make a point, but the real point
is that many people are barley getting by and don't see very far down the road.
However, I think the other part of being an American is sucking it up and not
looking for pity. We will make it through this and come out the other side
stronger. That is, if thats what we choose.
are we any happier since the day they arrived?
| 6:31 a.m. April 17, 2009 Did you ever take a look at where the
biggest amount of jobs that are being lost are going?Sure, the
economy is bad, and everyone is feeling the pinch, but --- to be quite bluntyou sound like an educated person, I do not think that the vast majority
of undocumented immigrants will be lining up for a job that you may be qualified
for.And the opposite is true, educated professionals will seldom
apply for manual labor jobs. When laid off, don't they typically collect
unemployment and search for jobs in lieu of going to pick strawberries,
[excuse the stereotype]? When was the last time you saw legal residents
and citizens lining up to, any kind of farm labor?The jobs that
Americans are losing are going overseas --- not to undocumented workers.Overseas, I have seen it, in several businesses where I have worked.What to do? Become more marketable. Is there anything else you can
do?Blaming someone else is not productive.
I love all people | 11:15 a.m. April 17, 2009 Protect language? Is
someone preventing you from speaking your own language? I don't get it.As to protecting other languages --- hundreds of indigenous languages
were wiped out in the name of assimilation as the United States expanded.Not only that, it is a myth to say that immigrants assimilated
immediately when they came over to America.Examples:*
The English did not assimilate to Native American culture.* German and
Irish immigrants had their share of being looked down upon for preserving their
culture. Does anyone remember not too long ago in nation's history when there
signs "Irish need not apply?"* Italians and Japanese --- they had their
history too. The Japanese, specifically, being taken to camps when they had
done nothing except be themselves.This in the name of preserving
Wealthy people and businesses wanting to pay CHEAP wages. Most of us would do
the work the illegals are doing but ONLY if it is a livable wage. Why shouldn't
it be? Why do the wealthy always depress others? Thats the BIG problem-GREED!
The Deseret News agenda as a member of the Salt Lake chamber of commerce is
shameful.Middle class America can't go home when the economy gets
bad. Writing articles like this only fans the flames, when law abiding Americans
are hurting. First we have to bail out the financial sector, then
you expect us to accept a form of slavery that depresses our wages?
Eliminate government welfare. Then more of the able will be willing to work.
Illegal Immigrants do far more harm than good in this country. They should
leave. They should be deported if they do not. It's so ridiculous to say that
no American would take the jobs they do. Wake up! It simply would require
paying a little bit more and improving conditions a little bit. If the job
doesn't pay enough to support a legal citizen then it doesn't pay enough to
support an illegal one either. Get a clue! If I went to Mexico, Peru or other
country illegally and tried to work or run a business, I'd be arrested and
jailed, fined, deported and/or killed. There are laws in this country and
everyone is expected to obey them. Even liberals and illegals. So let's start
insisting that they do it. Go HOME!
Individuals who classify illegal aliens in the same group with any other
criminal are absolutely ignorant. If you don't like illegal aliens, if you want
them to leave, or whatever, that is completely reasonable. And, true, among
illegals there are those who commit crimes. But, don't classify them together.
Most illegal aliens are people who obey laws just as much as the most respectful
legal citizens. The only law they break is that they don't have official
permission to live here. But they live here and have kids, and work, and respect
the laws. People like that cannot reasonable be put into the same group as
criminals. In fact, to me, the worst people on Earth are you people who treat
the illegals that way. It's impossible for you to put yourselves in their
position. You're just happy you're legal and fine in your work and home. So,
yeah, congratulations, you idiots. You make me ashamed to be an American.
Internal Nafta. That is what this is. Internal Nafta!
Actually, I have never and will never tell someone who is against illegal
immigration that they are racist. I, too, am against illegal immigration. Way
to jump to conlcusions. I also think that society might reach more
solutions if we could have open dialogue without the "that's racist" and other
unproductive comments thrown around.I think my point about not
making assumptions is more of a general personal belief I have that when people
make negative assumptions about strangers (myself included--we all do it), there
are often undesirable results ranging from unkind behavior to completely
mislabeling others. Let's face it, not one of us likes to be accused of
something we're not, and it creates unnecessary discord in society. Just my
opinion, though. Assumptions can serve good purposes, too, but I've already
been long-winded enough without elaborating.
If someone entered this country and violated the law doing so, then that person
is an illegal alien. However, I don't blame people who immigrate here because
they want better oppurtunities for themselves and their families. I would like
to see these people return to their own countries and then immigrate legally
back into the United States. I would like to see them come in through the front
door instead of sneaking in through the window like a thief. You wouldn't want
someone breaking into your home. But you would wecome a friend who has become or
is planning to become a naturalized American citizen.
I was in Park City last week during spring break and we stayed at the Marriott
Mountainside resort. It was jammed-packed. There was not an empty room. Funny
thing was that most of the patrons and skiers were from out of the country who
spoke Spainish. I remarked to my wife, "what global recession"?
Hey DesNews!! The recession has hurt those of us who are here legally!!!! In
fact you could say that because of illegal immigrants who shouldn't have been
here anyway, that they caused this recession to be greater than it should have
been buy getting home loans that they never could have qualified for and had no
hope of ever paying back. This recession was caused my Freddie Mac, Freddie
Mae, Rep Barney Frank, Senator Chris Dodd, and community organizer who wanted
more illegals getting home loans. Also, who is cleaning up the mess they leave?
You mentioned that boxes and cars are now abandened. Who is left with this mess?
Nice bario Park City has become.
News Flash!!! The American dream went away a long time ago, do you realize that
at the age of 65 only 99% of Americans retire not defendant on family, church,
or the government! I would say the American dream is in the past.
I am glad to hear that the views expressed hear are not reached because of
"prejudice, distrust/dislike/hate". I accept your word for what you say. I have
noticed that in my 50+ years of growing up in main stream America that I have
had to work threw some of those feelings in myself when I have realized they
were not in harmony with what I believed was right, and I have notice those same
feelings expressed by others from time to time. I know this is not a simple
issue and that there are valid points on both sides and I accept your good
intentions. I hope that after the current laws are changed which it looks like
they will be, that we accept that the "law is the law" and that we all work
together to build our community and love our neighbor as our self.
For those decrying profiling, when did illegal alien become a race?
America should welcome a controlled, limited flow of immigrants. The problems
comes when the flow is too fast for cultural adoption or when a recession hits
and we have an over supply of labor.There is no border protection
high to stop a person who is motivated and creative in immigrating. The only
way to stop them is to remove the motivation. One way to take away the motive
is to equalize the US and Mexican wage, but that would be a terrible decline for
the US and it would take Mexico decades to rise up to US levels.The
only remaining option is to make employers more responsible. If there are no
available jobs for those in an illegal status, they will not come. Employers
are the only option.
However, "illegals" are not to blame for the bad economy.Have you
seen the worst offenders list for the situation on the economy?If
anything, undocumented workers help the economy. Manual labor, cheap wages,
little or no benefits --- government does not pay into their social security
bucket, and no... undocumented workers do not take out more than they put into
the economy. That is the biggest lie some people would have the public believe.
It is a lie.
How far back do we want to trace the legal/illegal immigration?The
settling of the west, or for the entire 50 states did not exactly happen on
legal terms with the legal possessors of those lands before.They
To Wilkey said: "All I'm saying is that making assumptions about strangers on
the street (illegal, not illegal, legal but supporting those who are not, etc.)
never reflects well on anyone, including the person making the assumpmtions."Why is it that we are under any obligation to not make assumptions about
anything we want? People like you make the same assumption that simply because
we are anti-illegal migrant that we are racist, a stereotype if there ever was
one.The bottom line is that most of us are waaaaayy past the point
of giving any Hispanic looking or speaking person the benefit of the doubt that
they are here legally. Hispanic = illegal alien. More and more people are so
fed up with the hordes of lawbreakers swarming across our neighborhoods that we
do not care about "status". We are beginning to assume that all Hispanics are
illegal,until they speak in unaccented English. This is sad. It is
in error...but we are correct a very great part of the time because THERE ARE SO
MANY HERE!!!. If so many were not illegal, Hispanics would not be being met
with such hotility and resentment based on their appearance.
We can all do something come the 2010 election but will we? Bennett is up for
re-election and I'm betting most of you that are complaining will re-elect him.
He's beginning to say what we all want to hear as he starts his campaigning.
What about your local city councils and police depts. who are refusing to
enforce laws that we made just this last legislative session? Quit complaining,
organize in your own neighborhoods and require and demand that all politicians,
local, state and federal, uphold the law. Then--when they don't--throw them
out. After a few sessions of throwing them out perhaps they will get the
message. Doesn't matter whether they are democrats or republicans. Look at
your zoning laws--multiple families living in one house. Start small and keep
the pressure on.YOU have the power to change things. Turn off your
TVs, roll up your sleeves and get to work. We changed the 3rd District--you can
change yours too! It takes work, emailing and talking. You can do it!
And your point is??????? Yes we most of us do have immigrants in our background
but the vast majority of those immigrants came here legally under the
immigration laws in force at the time they came. My ancestors came through
Ellis Island. The discussion is about illegal aliens who do not follow the law.
And I disagree with your statement that none of the "Americans" will take time
to differentiate between tribes. People do the same to me. I'm from Ireland but
I get asked all the time which part of England I'm from. I just clarify for them
and hope they won't be so ignore the next time.
First of all, the american dream is not cleaning hotel rooms. You can do that
in any country. The American dream is under attack by congress and
president Obama who want to cap how much a person can achieve, and how much they
can earn. They are suppressing innovation, and allowing "big government" to
decide our fates. Yes, if you work hard enough to earn a large salary, they can
take that away from you and give it to someone who has decided not to work at
all. That is destroying the American dream.
To kw: aren't we forgetting that EVERYONE in America is an immigrant except the
NATIVE AMERICANS (who are called that because none of the "Americans" will take
the time to differentiate between tribes).
This article is nothing but propaganda, and justification for depressing the
wages of the unskilled working poor and students working part time. Any job
worth doing deserves a fair wage. A country with as much socialism
and welfare benefits that the United States offers will not last long if we
allow the unskilled working poor to have their wages depressed below subsistence
levels. Then if we flood the labor market with foreigners the problem becomes
worse. If we pretend that we can create an economy that provides
something for nothing we delude ourselves. Buying cheap labor foreign goods and
the use of cheap labor at home both create a false economy. It is like living on
credit cards beyond our means. This country is living beyond its
means and will sometime pay the economic price. Will it be in this recession
which could turn very bad? Or will it come later? We don't know, but it will
From your statistics (a source would be appreciated), it still sounds like a
vast majority are here legally. Furthermore, plenty of those here legally are
not supporting those who are here illegally. I'm not saying we don't have a
huge problem, because I absolutely agree that we do. All I'm saying is that
making assumptions about strangers on the street (illegal, not illegal, legal
but supporting those who are not, etc.) never reflects well on anyone, including
the person making the assumpmtions.
Abolish minimum wage and let businesses hire more people. The minimum wage
fuels lay offs. Let businesses set wages and allow people to decide if they
will work for them or not. If the wage were lower businesses could afford to
hire more people. Capitalism is a friend to the immigrant. Get government out of
regulating minimum wage.
Illegal's are one of American's biggest problems.If it takes a bad economy
to get rid of them, and get real American's doing their jobs then I guess we
needed the bad turn in the economy!
America has been betrayed by it's leaders, churches and police chiefs. The
comments on this article clearly show the will of the American people. Our
immigration laws are NOT a mess, the only mess is not enforcing them stongly
enough. It's time for another revolution, untill then; every man for himself.
illegal immigrants are a burden to the state and should be deported as well as
all those dishonest employers who hire them should be punished to the whole
extent of the law! I am sick and tired of people that are sympathetic to these
criminals, they are here stealing the jobs and opportunities of those native
americans and legal immigrants. go home "mojados" and take your families and
burdens with you, and stop abusing the system (free medical care and breaks at
Utah schools for tuition) not fair!
*** "I hope you weren't trying to imply that those 20-30 are all here
illegally...How would you know? I do think it's a problem that we have so many
people who are here illegally, but we must be careful not to assume that all
Hispanics are, because the majority are not." ***There are just over
40 million Hispanics in the US. 80% of the estimated population of 12 million
illegal aliens is Hispanic, or 10 million people. Thus 1 in 4 Hispanics is here
illegally.The ratio is far higher if you look only at Hispanics with
accents or at those who speak no English at all. 1 in 2? Quite possibly. And
those numbers do not incude the 3 million or so children of illegals who were
born in the US.If legally present Hispanics are bothered when people
assume they are illegal I know one thing that would help: stop supporting the
people who come here illegally!
This illegal alien sympathy article belongs on the opinion page. It is very
biased in its attempt to build empathy and entitlement for the illegal aliens.
The Sutherland Institute and the Chamber of commerce are each a wing of the
cheap labor bird. For them to imply that illegal aliens are necessary for
economic recovery, is to assume that the readers are all fools. It flies in the
face of common sense. I suppose it is easier for hotels and other
cheap labor employers, that care little about our own people, to hire illegal
aliens. It may cost a little more to hire students and young adults to work for
them like they used to a decade or so ago before they became so addicted to
using illegal labor.This article should be about how to depress
wages in America, and destroy the work ethic of our younger citizens. To say
that any type of work is work Americans won't do is at first a lie, and second
should be an insult to all Americans.To assume that unskilled labor
has to be done by illegal aliens puts the nation on the road to decline.
You're absolutely right. And not all illegals are workers. It is unfair to lump
You commented that you see 20-30 Hispanics a day, most being on medicaid and not
contributing to the funds. First, no one on medicaid contributes to
the funds. I agree that welfare of all sorts is a big problem and is
unsustainable, but the problem is not unique to that particular race.I hope you weren't trying to imply that those 20-30 are all here illegally
(whether intentional or not, your comment implied this). How would you know? I
do think it's a problem that we have so many people who are here illegally, but
we must be careful not to assume that all Hispanics are, because the majority
are not. If I misunderstood your comment, I apologize.
Tear that fence down!!!
*** "A certain man broke a law (ate fruit, crossed a border) in order to protect
and preserve his family." ***Bollocks. As of this year 110 million
live in Mexico. Got that? 110 million people *LIVE* in Mexico. They are not
dropping like flies. In fact the average life expectancy of a Mexican, according
to the Mexican government, is 75.84 years. That is just slightly lower than the
average US life expectancy of about 78 years, and it's essentially the same as
the Hispanic life expectancy in the US.They are not coming here
because their poor families are dying. They are coming here illegally because
the work pays better. It's understanable but that does not make it right.We let them stay here when our unemployment rate was 5.5%. We're letting
them stay even though it's now 8.5%. When our unemployment rate hits 10% and our
deficits are stratospheric we may realize how idiotic it was to encourage
foreigners to take American jobs while Americans were being told to take on
debt, from college students and their loans to teenagers and their 68%
Boo hoo! Thanks for the sob story from the D News. These stories will only
lead to more cancelled subscriptions. Guaranteed.
We keep hearing that these "immigrants" might go back to Mexico if things don't
impove. Just where do all of us who were born here "go back to"? Sounds like
at least they have options.
Ok, take your current salary and multiply it by 5 or 10. Suppose
there is a country very close by where you can get the same type of job that
will pay you 5 to 10 times more than you earn currently. All you have to do is
obtain the employment without a proper permit, put up with a lot of prejudice
from the residing population, perhaps not know the language and risk being sent
back here. You can even get free health care if you do it right. Do you make the move? Well I guess 12 million or so have. Kudos
to them for improving their lives if that's the case!This is the
current system in place. If you don't like the system you must run for office
to change the system or elect someone who will.
Most of tha blame can be attributed directly to our noble congress which created
and nurtured Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, accepted huge campaign contributions
from them, and turned a "blind eye" to the millions and millions paid in bonuses
that were fraudulently obtained, and failed to enact a wise immigration policy.
As Reverend Jeremiah Wright said, "...The Chickens. Come Home. To Roost!".
America needs migrant workers, unless the population itself decides to up the
number of children per household and start getting married younger. Luckily
(unlike Europe) the migrant workers that are most readily available are of a
Christian background, and don't wish to impose Shariah Law. Hopefully America
will continue to treat its neighbors with respect and love and will be desperate
for migrant workers for the foreseeable future.
I am a social work professional in the Valley. I attended a training at a
local Hispanic social service agency, Centro De La Familia and when I dared to
raise the issue of legality v illegality I was called a racist, an elitist, a
bigot and described as having no compassion for the less fortunate and having a
lack of understanding of the "immigrant experience". Bull, what they did not
know was that I am an legal immigrant who spent years waiting to come here and
paid for my own education at the out of state tuition rate. If they had allowed
me to speak long enough they would have noticed that I have an accent. I have
worked to support legal immigrants. I volunteer my time to teach English and yet
I was verbally abused because I do not agree with law-breaking or violating the
laws of this country. I feel it a great honor to live here. I have never had
to hide in the shadows and fear the police. Illegals, go home, come back
legally and participate in the American dream.
Not all migrant workers are illegal. It is unfair to lump them together.
I was in Mexico last month, our guide told us there was no welfare there. He
said " if you want to eat, you have to work". Contrast that with what is going
on here. Now MSNBC has Obama raising people from the dead, so I'm sure all is
well until our children get hit with the bill for his spending.
"Gardners 73% American Citizens or LEGAL immigrants (vs) vs 26% illegal
immigrants"Everything's a nice tidy 100% except the percent written
above only adds up to 99%. What happened to the other 1%?
In this economy why are we even debating whether illegal workers should be here
in the first place. There are plenty of people who need work who are here
legally. The illegal immigrant workforce only benefits the wealthy in their
worship of a larger margin. There are plenty of people here legally who need
jobs, why not do an article about them? Because the only people that matter are
the poor law breaking immigrants in the media's mind. Let South America &
Central America deal with their own problems & not shuffle them to the USA. If
they leave to never come back, that sounds like a win for the USA. It's harsh &
87 percent of people who insist there are enough Americans who will pick
strawberries on their hands and knees for 8 hours a day for minimum wage are
mistaken. Just because there are some Americans who will do it, doesn't mean
there are enough for a thriving economy. Oh, and 78 percent of all statistics
are made up.
now the legals have spoken out and not in a hateful way ...after reading these
blogs ..i hope the political machine will take time to grease the wheels in the
direction the legals have spoken quite clearly on!
The status quo is bad for everybody. A lot of these laborers are here not
because they want to become US citizens, but because of better work
opportunities. The problem, however, is that certain special interests benefit
(e.g. Park City resort owners) while the taxpayers foot the bill for the costs
associated with illegal immigrants and their families. So, rather than granting
amnesty to the 10-20 million, mostly Mexican illegal immigrants, we should find
a way to accommodate workers, at the expense of businesses, and to allow for
limited citizenship to those who want to integrate into our culture.
When I was a teacher in the Los Angeles area, I saw the terrible decline of the
quality of education due to the influx of illegal immigration. When my first
child began kindergarden, he was the only one in the class who spoke English as
a first language. The classes are conducted in Spanish and English, and in some
areas, dialects from Southeast Asia. The citizens pay taxes for the education
of America's children, yet many who are not legal citizens are causing the taxes
to increase outrageously while the quality and safety of our schools suffer. We
moved to another state, and the same thing is happening here. Illegal
immigrants work hard, but they do not pay into our system and benefit a great
deal from tax payer money. Illegal immigration chips away at the quality of
life for American citizens and leagal immigrants, and the problem seems to only
be getting worse across the entire country.
to all the "compassionate" people who think allowing undocumented (illegal)
immigrants to remain and work and continue to breach our borders, I'd say that
America is a sinking ship right now. Being the largest donor by far in the
world to other poorer nations the more we sink the less we will be able to help
other nations in the world. There's a disproportionate amount of money in
welfare and benefits going to people from a single nation of Mexico. It is
unfair to those seeking to come here legally, and unfair to other poorer
nations. We can't save anyone if we allow ourselves to drown.And
the Des News is obviously either cowering or overly sympathetic to
"undocumented" workers from Mexico and South America. The paper is certainly
going downhill as a respectable resource for news.
My neighbor works as a finish carpenter, he has been out of work now for about 1
year. I approached some contractors that I knew and asked if they would be
willing to hire him. Of course, they wanted to know his background and
experience. When they found out he was very experienced and had been doing this
for 30 years, they told me they could not pay him enough and if they hired him
he would probably leave when things got a little better. They said they were
looking for someone that they could pay $9 or $10 per hour to. (Illegals) My
neighbor probably would have taken the job if it paid $12.
I am a doctor in the Salt Lake Valley. I see 20-30 Hispanics a day, the
majority of which are on Medicaid. Your tax dollars are paying for their health
care and they are not contributing to the funds that pay for their health
care.Both parents usually accompany their kids to the office (meaning they
are not working) and yet their health care is free to them.It is not
racist or hatred to say THIS CANNOT BE SUSTAINED. They are a drain on a very
"drained" public budget. Illegal aliens must either stay and PAY or return to
Mexico. Again, this attitude does not constitute "hate". We are conditioning
an entire generation of immigrants to believe that everything in America is free
and that they are entitled to free services. This cannot be sustained and will
poses a huge socio-economic problem that will linger for generations.
Nowhere in "Hispanics Preferred's" comment did he say that he was hiring
Hispanics who are here illegally. Many of you just assumed that, and to assume
that if someone is Hispanic means they are illegal is a dangerous and harmful
assumption.That being said, he may have hired illegals. We just
don't know; how about reserving judgement rather than making rash assumptions?
That's a mighty presumptuous statement you make about posters having feelings of
prejudice and dislike/hate toward illegal hispanics based on race. It's not wrong to protect this country from foreign intruders and all the
problems they bring. Illnesses that were one all but eradicated in America like
tuberculosis are now on the rise again. It's not wrong to be
concerned about the financial toll these illegals are putting on america. It's not wrong to want to see Americans get those jobs that "only
illegals will do."It's not wrong to be concerned about a shrinking
middle class due to depressed wages caused by illegals. It's not
wrong to want to keep our overcrowded prisons from being filled with illegals
nor wrong to be concerned about the huge rising crime rate from criminals
interspersed among others.It's not wrong to want to seal our borders
once and for all and stop the anchor babies being born here.It's
right to expect immigrants come here legally. It's right to expect fair quotas
from all countries.No shame for speaking out America. This is not
about race, it's about citizen rights.
Here's debunking the nonsense about how Americans won't do the jobs illegals
do...Drywall/ceiling and tile installers: - 73% are American or
legal immigrants vs. 27% illegalGardeners 73%: American citizens or LEGAL
immigrants vs vs. 26% illegal immigrantsMaids and housekeepers: 78%
American or legal immigrants vs. 22% illegal immigrantsconstruction
laborers: 80% American or legal immigrants vs. 20% illegal immigrantsHotel industry workers: 87% are American or legal immigrants vs. 13% illegal
immigrantsFood manufacturing industry 92% American or legal
immigrants vs. 8% illegal immigrants.Furthering discrimination
against American citizens: Most government agencies now have hiring quotas for
bilingual english/spanish speaking citizens in order to deal with hispanics
(mostly illegal) who do not speak english. This means that American citizens do
not qualify for many coveted government jobs simply by the fact they can only
speak in their native english tongue.But they become hard working
productive members of society right? Wrong. The longer they stay, the less
productive and more welfare dependent they become. If here: 5
years: 18.6% receive welfare. 6 to 9 years: 23.9% receive welfare.10 to 19 years, 26.9% receive welfare
Personally, I love people regardless of national origin. However, in the USA we
need to protect language, borders, and culture; if we don't then we are too
compromised. Overall, illegal aliens are a very serious threat to the economy
and culture of the USA. We should welcome all legal immigrants. I am a
descendant of legal immigrants.
"Undocumented immigrant"? I'm dying to know how the DesNews is going to classify
drug dealers and prostitutes.... "chemical enablers" and "overachieving
flirts"?? Shame on the illegals for not having the honor to come to America
LEGALLY like my mom did almost 44 years ago. A double shame on employers who
know their employees are illegal and still continue to use them to line their
own pockets. These employers are as much a thief as anyone sitting behind bars
at prison. These employers steal from the legal American families right now that
would do these jobs. And although I cannot argue about whether or not the
illegals can receive welfare, I KNOW they are receiving medical assistance at
the expense of the rest of us. I agree that the welfare system in the US stinks
and provides a means for more people to continue their laziness, but if we would
change those laws, they would be forced to work again to eat. Illegals aren't
the answer. I am sorry that they were born into a country with little prospects,
but unfortunate luck doesn't excuse their illegal action of coming here outside
of the law.
1/3rd of prison population is illegal immigrants at over $100,000 cost per year
per prisoner.between 1996 to 2001, welfare use among legal
immigrants and illegal aliens increased to about $9403 per household. Since
1996, number of illegal welfare recipients has more than doubled.The
average Mexican immigrant household pays $2,156 in taxes.22% of
immigrant households receive welfare compared to 15% of American citizens.But they're poor right? Illegals who hire persons to smuggle them here
pay anywhere from $3000 to $30,000. Where do they get that money?If
the migrant farm workers were deposed it's estimated we'd only pay about 3% more
for produce.K-12 school expenditure for illegal aliens costs the
states $7.4 billion annuallyenough to buy a computer for every junior high
student nationwide. 216 new schools need to be built every year to
house illegal immigrants. It costs between 6 and 18 million to build a new
school. State funding for education costs alone run at about $5000 to $11,000
per student.Tip of the iceberg here...it's greedy business and their
politicians putting out nonsense on economic benefits of illegals
To: Political Correctness - you are absolutely right....bravo for your thinking.
in Washington has hurt us all, both illegal aliens and legal Americans alike.
You are absolutely wrong, many, many illegals are receiving welfare benefits.
Beleive me, as a State employee, dispensing aid on a daily basis, it is
happening and nothing we can do about it. Identities are stolen and misued and
even when we suspect it, there is nothing can be done.
Yes Hispanics are hard working, as are people of all nations. But what the
illegal alien does is take away jobs from legal aliens, who have worked harder
to get here by traveling greater distances and doing so by legal compliance with
our laws.There could be more good workers here that really need to
leave their countries, REFUGEEs such as from Sudan, Darfur, Iraq, Afghanistan,
some who supported our troops at the cost of their families lives. But when
they get to this country, they have to compete with the illegal aliens for jobs.
Many are discouraged after coming here, because of this competition. Yet going
home is a death sentence. Sir would you hire these Refugees? You did
not distinguish if you are hiring Native born, or Legal Hispanics. We Hispanics
that are legal and born American, compete with the illegal aliens who devalue
our wages, steal our ids and social security #s, and support organized crime.
How do you apply background checks to illegal aliens with multiple stolen
id's? This is just some of the reality that this Hispanic Minute man See's
and lives M. Sanchez
want to go back to indentured servants?
is all apart of the schema of things..the middle class carries the load my wife
and i are taxed $3500.oo apiece and we are native americans...when our children
try for these jobs to start their economic descent..it is always "get to the
back of the line"...we have lost one of our first in this present war who gave
his all with the first seven casualties...i understand probably better than most
what it is to come from a third world country but i have to draw the line as if
i or other natives went to their countries we would be labeled "illegals". The
premise is very simple when one has lost a life for freedom as many have..you
learn to cherish the benefits and implement a fair system that rewards "legal" ,
legitimate play in the system set up. We are still in the mourning stage of
losing our son, brother, hero...so it is a disrespectful person who shoves
themselves right by us as if we haven't for our right to the Ameican Dream.
these people need to be educated in what is proper not uncompassionate!!
Illegal immigration is a three-dimensional issue that is perhaps not so
conducive to one-line zingers and trite axioms (although these are not always
off base). A certain man broke a law (ate fruit, crossed a border)
in order to protect and preserve his family. When he broke the law, he did what
he had to do as a responsible morally-independent actor. Is it possible to
simultaneously respect and honor this man and at the same time ask for the law
to be enforced? I believe that it is. To those who have come here
without the blessing the law, I don't question the goodness of your heart. I
don't question the gravity of the need that drove you here, or the wisdom of
your decision to come. But when I participate in civic dialog about the rule of
law, I ask you to stop breaking it. I ask you to go home. I will suffer with
you, mourn with you, cry with you, comfort you. You may have done what was right
for you to come. But we are doing what is right for us to enforce the laws. God
bless you. Return home.
This is not an easy issue to deal with but the fact is that most of the illegal
immigrants are here to work and do contribute. Our immigration laws are a mess.
These people are real people and this problem is a human problem as well as a
legal problem. I think if we were able to look honestly into our hearts we would
find some real feelings of prejudice and dislike/hate their. I feel for everyone
who is having a hard time in these difficult financial times. I hope the best
But the statistics say our unemployment is just over 5%...is the government
clueless or what? From where the rubber meets the ground my estimate is 9% to
13%. I think we can forget about the tenths of a percent accuracy.
I just cancelled my subscription to the Deseret News because I can no longer
tolerate your inability to refrain from policial correctness. If I have to read
one more story about these poor undocumented workers whose children have Sony
Playstations bought, I might add, with the the proceeds from criminal activity,
I'm going to puke. Working in this country, at any job, while an illegal alien
is criminal. So Des News, one less subscriber.
No one here is calling Latinos lazy; the argument never was about the Hispanic
work ethic.The argument is about ILLEGAL immigrants living and
working in the United States. We are doing these people absolutely no favors by
underpaying them for working in crappy jobs and by forcing them to live in the
shadows with the constant fear of being deported.I agree, the
process to get authorization to work and live in the US definitely needs to be
streamlined. Until that happens we should enforce our laws. Hiring
undocumented workers only enables a new kind of slave labor.
You are part of the problem! A dishonest employer, lining your own pockets at
the expense of American Citizens and illegals alike. You should be prosecuted to
the fullest extent of the law. Do you check to see if they have stolen someone
else's identity or are you so busy scamming that you ignore the law? Sorry you
can't find decent workers, send me your email and I will send you two of my
sons, both drug free, clean-cut, returned missionaries who are in college and
are great workers who will be happy to accept $8.00 per hour.
You posters be very careful. You don't want to be classified by Homeland
Security as a rightwing extremist. Immigration is one of the three issues they
watch closely, the other two being gun ownership rights and abortion.Welcome to Amerika, comrades.
What part of 'illegal aliens do not get welfare' do you not understand? All the
food stamps are going to your white and lazy neighbors, not to undocumented
immigrants. You are the one who does not understand.
Utah citizens to the DesNews: Helloooo, helloooo, illegal immigrants have NO
right to hold jobs in the United States. Please stop printing articles that show
your "compassion" for illegal immigrants while millions of your fellow citizens
are losing their jobs left and right. Where is your "compassion" for LAW ABIDING
CITIZENS of this country?
Who is going to make me my Bigmac or clean the bathroom? I guess they are
going to have to pay better to get the locals to do the job. That is the
problem, they will work for less and because of that it is what they will pay.
is the only sensiable blogger
Re. To Saints: Thank you. I see the light now. We need to just ignore our
immigration laws and allow these "migrants" to come work these jobs that are
beneath you and me, for wages that we could not afford to live on. Why would we
want them to come into this country legally? Then they would have legal
recourse when their employers take advantage of them. Oh, and what about that
pesky 12th article of faith about obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law?
Well, those "articles of faith" are almost as old as the constitution. They
really don't apply in our 'modern world'. Lets just throw them all out the
window. Thank you for enlightening me.
Hispanics Preferred- You lack a true understanding of the situation. Currently
our govt has allowed illegals to come here and work by not enforcing the laws.
These illegals drive down wages, which you like because it saves you money. What
is not mentioned is why hispanics show up to work and others do not. The reason
is that we have set up such a good welfare state for our citizens, that they
don't feel the need to work. In many cases they are financially better off to
not work, or work fewer hours to keep their incomes below a certain level.If we would eliminate all of the freebies we give out, you would see a
dramatic change. If people had to work to survive, they would show up and they
would do a better job. Unfortunately, their is not enough disincentive from not
working to change attitudes. Many don't care if they get fired, because it just
means a trip back for more entitlements.8:13- Read the Articles of
Faith and tell me where breaking the law under certain circumstances is
I agree with you. Have you noticed a great decline in both the printed and
online editions in the past year. Both have fewer articles and have the same
stories day after day. This is probably because they have fired a lot of people.
So all the fluff and stories about how sad it is to be illegal in Utah fall on
deaf ears. When the last reporter files his last article it will be about how
the illegal can not afford his rental house.
It is nice to know that in the midst of so many racist comments, there is at
least one person who understands the value of hard work, regardless of race or
nationality.I could not agree more. Personally, working in an office and
all is hard enough. I can only imagine what those peopel go through with tougher
The DNews is moving more and more to the feel good paper. To bad that feeling
good and caring about the middle class and hard working Americans is not part of
their agenda. This paper and the individual that wrote it should write a letter
of apology to all Americans. I worked in Park City cleaning condos for minimum
wage while in college. To bad the Dnew continues to advance the myth that hard
working Americans will not do hard work! I have no sympathy for illegal aliens
that brake laws and further advance our welfare mentality. I also have no
sympathy for the greedy companies that try to take advantage of cheep labor!!!
How interesting all these comments.No wonder the "United Order"
never had a chance and never will.
Dump the political correctness and call them ILLEGAL immigrants. The more that
leave the better. If you are not properly documented when living in Mexico, you
go to JAIL....no questions or objections allowed and the newspapers do not write
about your unfortunate situation. Shape up Des News.
To the "What about Us" person @ 6:31am I think that he is crazy to go back to
I was in town over Easter weekend and I hit a mall there. I sure didn't see any
signs of recession going on in this state. It was like Christmas Eve and the
lines in stores were long. Where I live, the stores in the malls are going out
of business. No complaining Utahns.
People say things like, "we need migrant workers for low end jobs" and "most of
us will not work for such low wages or conditions" and they label themselves as
compassionate and understanding. I label them as bigots. There is nothing
wrong with good honest work, and as has been mentioned in previous comments,
there are many citizens and legal immigrants who will gladly fill these
positions. I have worked many similar jobs in my lifetime. The point in
this story, that is missed, is that the american dream has been slipping away
for quite some time. People can't earn enough money to pay their bills. Now the
chickens have come home to roost. Banks, companies and individuals are teetering
on the edge of bankruptcy. Ask yourself this. What would happen to the working
wage in this state if all of the illegals suddenly went home.
Al victims of the economic downturn have my sympathy.However,
ILLEGAL aliens should not be here, and should go home and become wards of their
native lands.LEGAL immigrants deserve the assistance offered to all
Americans.And, NO, the solution is not to declare an amnesty (under
whatever name) and add millions to our welfare (and voting) rolls.Now, let's compare this article to one about the number of ILLEGAL aliens who
are engaged in criminal activity, engaged in identity theft, and adding to the
costs of education and health care.Finally, I do not feel any
sympathy for employers who knowingly employ ILLEGAL aliens.
I have hired janitors and maintenance workers for several years to maintain
large commercial buildings in Utah. I would prefer to hire 10 hispanic workers
to 1 other applicant. The Hispanics are honest, hard-working and loyal people.
They came here to work and that's what they want to do. The alternative job
applicants for $9-$10 cleaning, maintenance and landscaping jobs are either
tatooed, pierced, addicted freaks, chronically unemployed people with health and
behavior problems, or young people with a privileged attitude whose parents are
making them 'find a job.' Give me 6 good hispanic workers and I'll get a good
job done. Give me 6 referrals from the unemployment rolls (who can pass drug
and background checks) and 3 of them won't show up the next day, 2 are lazy and
won't work at all, and 1 might make it a month. We need to give them job cards
and let them in. It's good for our economy and good for theirs. The minutemen
aren't living in reality - they just want to hate someone to make themselves
Why doesn't the DesNews do an in depth article about how big corporations, like
those who own the hotels etc. in Park City are unwilling to pay a decent wage to
legal American citizens for doing these jobs? About how these big corporations,
and the wealthy, want illegal immigrants so they don't have to pay a living wage
to get their homes cleaned, lawns mowed, cars washed, kids taken care of. This
isn't about compassion or humanitarian reasons. It's about the greed of the
wealthy and big business who want a huge cheap labor force so they can put more
money in their own pockets.
My husband is out of work - he will work any job to have any income rather than
rely on the govt for money. And immigrants on the majority do not and will not
help with the economic recovery! They do not pay taxes and they send the money
home to their family in other countries. . .how is that helping us? If they have
a true American Dream why not become legal, better themselves and then they can
make more money?Didn't care for the article because many people are
being hit hard so why are we picking out immigrants to feel sorry for?
If you do not have a job you are deported.
Call they what they are: Illegal aliens. Compassion is important, however but
if these illegals want work, they need to stay in their native country and make
their opportunities. Illegal aliens cost us even more than our jobs - they suck
up more in welfare and other *free* benefits than they pay for in taxes. Many
of these people are paid "under the table" and don't pay little taxes, if any.
Most are using someone else's identity, spelled "identity theft", and are
scamming the system.Send them on their way.
Park City requires migrant workers because it is a resort city. Many occupants
don't actually live there year round. And those who do generally don't have a
lot of children to fill the low-end jobs that migrant workers can do (little
language, low-level education, manual labor).
I have compassion on illegal immgrants, my wife and I have done things like
provided a Christmas for a family from Mexico back while we were at BYU. I love
Latinos actually, having served a mission in South America and all. However, I can't help but lose a little compassion for them when 600,000
actual US citizens are losing their jobs each month here right now. I will be
graduating with a master's degree soon and it is scary how hard it is to find a
job! I've had very little luck so far in my job search. Maybe I
will go to Mexico to look for a job.
The rich company owners that have taken advantage of these people are the bad
guys, not the immigrants. They reap the short term profits, give money to our
politicians, and the tax payers have to educate and feed the children of the
undocumented. We have a new underclass. One day they won't be happy
continually being at the bottom and all hell will break loose.
And what about the american dream for the unemployed americans that these
illegal foreign nationals, immigrants the press and government likes to call
them, have forced in to unemployment and slave labor wages? The plight of these
illegal aliens gets no sympathy from the american people and they should all be
sent back to where they come from. We don't need them as a burden on society
with their greedy welfare hands stuck out for what tax payers are providing. The
dream of americans is more important and disastrous to the economy and the
american way of life. The press must stop calling them immigrants, they are
illegal alien criminals as soon as they set foot on american soil. Treat them
accordingly and stop pandering this plague on america.
Why is it that the media talks of documented and undocumented immigrants the
same way? I have little sympathy for someone who is undocumented to
not get employment. It's illegal to hire someone who isn't supposed to be
Everybody is hurting right now. It would be nice if the local papers
wrote articles about Americans that are out of work, instead of the constant
focus on illegal aliens. I have two relatives that are legal
citizens that work in Park West as housekeepers. Not all people from Park city
Yes, these people need work, but they also need to respect the borders of our
country, when I have entered Mexico, it was quite a ritual to go through, but
that is the "hones" "proper" way and anyone that avoids the appropriate way is
showing a propensity for law and probably will not have any respect for any laws
and thus the high number of illegals committing crimes, I do not see it as a
negative that the illegals are going back home. Why call them undocumented
aliens, they are illegals and that is that. And as for the work and the low
wages, get rid of the illegals and Sizzler and others will hire legal workers at
a decent wage and will not raise prices because of competition. This is the
natural way and not the way to save businesses money and pocket the difference
in salaries. It is the crooked businesses like Sizzler that hire these and say
it is none of their concern.
*** "If the Hispanic community was a threat to the jobs of middle income white
people, they would have already been a threat prior to the recession," says
Sutherland Institute President Paul Mero, who has argued for greater compassion
for undocumented immigrants. ***Of course he advocates greater
"compassion" - he's paid by his business sponsors to do so. How CONVENIENT that
his and their business interests manage to dovetail perfectly with their
so-called compassion. Additonally note that he says that illegal immigrants
aren't a threat to "MIDDLE INCOME white people." Note he does not mention, nor
seem to care about, lower income white people, lower income black people, or
lower income legal Hispanic people.
Wha-huh???? I thought mass unlimited immigration was supposed to lead us to the
braod sunlit uplands of eternal uninterrupted economic growth? Where's my
utopia, dangit?Note that over 60% of foreclosures, by dollar value,
come from heavily Hispanic, illegal immigrant-occupied California. This is the
future the Deseret News and all its fellow travellers have brought us.
Thanks.I don't cry for these illegals. I don't cry for their
employers. They came here through a broken window. You do not build a great
country by rewarding such behavior. You do not build a great country by
rewarding businessmen who bribe Congress to turn a blind eye.
Why does the media insist on referring to these criminals as immigrants, they
are illegal aliens, who have forced their way into my home and taken advantage
of our resources. They should be deported immediately. If they are leaving
voluntarily, that's a positive thing, but take your junk with you. Now we will
have to bear the cost of cleaning up the old trucks and boxes of trash they are
leaving behind. As for the employers who hire them, they are just as bad and
should be prosecuted. I do feel compassion, but for all the Americans who are
out of work. To Compassion, sorry but there are many Americans who would work
as handymen, fixing leaky faucetts and light switches, even for low wages. By
the way, I don't care if you here illegally from Canada, South America, Europe,
Asia or anywhere else on the planet, you have flaunted our laws and should be
deported. You are not entitled to the American dream!
Not so ironic, that's how people stay wealthy. I have two relatives
that work in Park West housekeeping. They have friends trying to get work there
also. They are not illegal, so it's not everyone in the Park city area that
feels a need to hire illegal workers. The recession affects all of
us, benefits are cut, jobs are lost. This country needs to hunker down and ride
out the storm.
I am not in favor of undocumented aliens working here, but it s a fact of life
as most of us will not work for that low of a wage or conditions. I do feel
compassion for them, as they do have families which they are trying to support.
Ironic though that so many work in Park City where most of Utah's money and
wealthy citizens are.